Google+ Photos... a nightmare to use? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Google Photos looks really good but that's pretty much where the magic ends, I don't know if I'm using it wrong but mass deleting photos for example is a nightmare (on android and on desktop) there's no option to select all pictures, , no option to save a copy of all the photos to the computer, I have to pick the photos I want one by one , there's no option to delete the pictures of the auto backup on the android app and on desktop when I try to delete pictures it keeps crashing it doesnt matter if I'm using Chrome or Firefox
Random complain: I can't believe you can't send more than one picture af a time using hangouts
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I wouldn't call it a nightmare but it does have some drawbacks. When you have auto upload turned on it generates a lot of extra deleting for me as well. The best you can do is select multiple at the same time as I dont think there is a delete folder option. I think you can select multiple to download as well but no there is not a download all option.

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Valdeck said:
I wouldn't call it a nightmare but it does have some drawbacks. When you have auto upload turned on it generates a lot of extra deleting for me as well. The best you can do is select multiple at the same time as I dont think there is a delete folder option. I think you can select multiple to download as well but no there is not a download all option.
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I am completely baffled with taking storing and transferring pictures. I'm a real noobie with android and smart camera. I started experimenting with the Nexus 5's camera today. I took two pictures and couldn't figure where the pictures are. There are two apps, Photos and Gallery. Once I began to crop and adjusted exposure, the nightmare began. Suddenly there are back up files sent to Google + and trying to send pictures to my computer was a separate nightmare. I managed to transfer some pictures to my Google Drive, but what a mess, I still don't know what I did and couldn't repeat my transfer again. Forget about deleting Google+ pictures. there were a couple of "Can't delete this file" messages.
My question is, is there a primer for how to save and transfer pictures on the Nexus 5. I hate fumbling around my phone, Im afraid that I may cause some real damage that way. So far in order take one picture ends up traveling from Camera to Photos to Gallery to Drive to Google+ and a DCIM folder. Descriptions like nightmare, baffling and mess comes to mind.

A sort of clumsy workaround is to use Dropbox's camera backup. That will get your pics on your computer.
Then you can manually upload the pictures you want to G+. I use Picasa for this on Windows. If you enable sync for your albums, autoawesome'd pictures get downloaded back form G+ to your computer again.
Not ideal, but easier than dealing with the autobackup hassle, I feel.

Nexus 5 picture nightmare
greenkabbage said:
A sort of clumsy workaround is to use Dropbox's camera backup. That will get your pics on your computer.
Then you can manually upload the pictures you want to G+. I use Picasa for this on Windows. If you enable sync for your albums, autoawesome'd pictures get downloaded back form G+ to your computer again.
Not ideal, but easier than dealing with the autobackup hassle, I feel.
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Thanks for your suggestion, but that's at least a level beyond my understanding. I'm in need of understanding basics about how and where files go. Where does the original file go, are edited files saved? If so, where are they? What Apps display what? Are Google+ pictures linked or copied? I thought Lightroom had a steep learning curve, but the Nexus 5 picture handling feels mind numbing and confusing. I'll figure it out sooner or later, but it would be nice to have a manual of some kind, instead of hunt and peck your way through. I was able to upload picture files up to my Google Drive, but it's not obvious. I just need to remember how I did it and what was the logic involved. I also need to figure out what gets sync'd, which just adds to my confusion. It feels that Android's automatic processes to display pictures to Google+ gums up basic photo editing work flow.

Where does the original file go, are edited files saved? If so, where are they?
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The photos go onto the internal 'sdcard' into the folder 'DCIM/Camera'
If you edit files in the Gallery app, the edited files you save end up there as well.
Not 100% sure the original, unedited files are kept, but you can undo all changes you made by pressing the 3 dots for the menu, then choosing "Reset". In other words, editing photos on your phone will always keep a backup of the original photo.
What Apps display what?
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Both Gallery and Photos show the images you have on your Nexus.
Gallery has a bit more 'normal' layout, where you can pick the folder on the SDcard or G+ Album you want to look at.
In Photos you have the "Camera" and "Highlights" tabs. Camera shows you photos on your device.
Highlights show you a handful of photos from albums that are synced from G+.
Are Google+ pictures linked or copied? & I also need to figure out what gets sync'd
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If you have AutoBackup enabled in "Photos" or Google+ (Photos is technically part of G+) then all photos you take will be uploaded to your Google+ Photo section/Picasa webalbums. These pictures are private and only you can see them until you choose to share them. In the G+ Photo they have a special section called "Auto Backup" under the "More" menu where you can find all those photos for moving them to Albums etc.
Now my approach is to not use G+ Autobackup, but to use the camera backup feature of Dropbox. This way, all my photos get synced to my computer first, then I manually upload my images to G+ for sharing. For archive purposes, I use Picasa to upload folders to the Google servers after I have sorted and processed the files locally.
Hope that helped explain some of the points.

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Hope that helped explain some of the points.
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Yes, your explanations are helpful. Thanks a bunch.

greenkabbage said:
The photos go onto the internal 'sdcard' into the folder 'DCIM/Camera'
If you edit files in the Gallery app, the edited files you save end up there as well.
Not 100% sure the original, unedited files are kept, but you can undo all changes you made by pressing the 3 dots for the menu, then choosing "Reset". In other words, editing photos on your phone will always keep a backup of the original photo.
Both Gallery and Photos show the images you have on your Nexus.
Gallery has a bit more 'normal' layout, where you can pick the folder on the SDcard or G+ Album you want to look at.
In Photos you have the "Camera" and "Highlights" tabs. Camera shows you photos on your device.
Highlights show you a handful of photos from albums that are synced from G+.
If you have AutoBackup enabled in "Photos" or Google+ (Photos is technically part of G+) then all photos you take will be uploaded to your Google+ Photo section/Picasa webalbums. These pictures are private and only you can see them until you choose to share them. In the G+ Photo they have a special section called "Auto Backup" under the "More" menu where you can find all those photos for moving them to Albums etc.
Now my approach is to not use G+ Autobackup, but to use the camera backup feature of Dropbox. This way, all my photos get synced to my computer first, then I manually upload my images to G+ for sharing. For archive purposes, I use Picasa to upload folders to the Google servers after I have sorted and processed the files locally.
Hope that helped explain some of the points.
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That's exactly what I do with my photos, i deactivated Photos (google+) auto upload feature, because it only backups the photos on the cloud, not on my computer, It would be ideal if google Drive had an option to upload the photos to your computer, I ended up using Dropbox's auto backup feature

Just saw that Google axed the gallery on 4.4.2 on the Xperia Z ultra, quite interesting , they really new to step up their game is they're planning on axing it too on the nexus 5

Chad_Petree said:
Just saw that Google axed the gallery on 4.4.2 on the Xperia Z ultra, quite interesting , they really new to step up their game is they're planning on axing it too on the nexus 5
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What's so special about Gallery? There are tons of third-party apps you can use if you don't like Photos.
Why not try "Gallery KK"?
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tjtj4444 said:
What's so special about Gallery? There are tons of third-party apps you can use if you don't like Photos.
Why not try "Gallery KK"?
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I really really like the look of Photos , i'm just pissed that it's missing functionality that the old Gallery had, that's all , I checked your recommendation but it's only the stock gallery app, improved , I guess I'll continue to use the old Gallery app until they fix Photos

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[Q] Hangouts/gallery/Photos linked up mess

I have searched around and found nothing on XDA or anywhere else about this. With that being said, I understand the existence of Gallery and Photos. Not complaining about that.
Is there any way to keep Hangout MMS pictures from populating their own albums in the Gallery app? Here's the issue, every picture I send, creates an album with prefix Hangouts then the name of the contact. Deleting the pictures from the Gallery app deletes it from my conversation in Hangouts too leaving a white picture and the three dots at the bottom which means that the pictures can't be found. This is not only for chats, but MMS as well. Yes I could go get another Gallery App etc... But wanted to try and see if anyone has it figured out first before going down that route.
There is no option to only view albums on the device itself. Disabling the sync, disables auto-backup.
Thoughts or solutions anyone?
+1 on this, I was randomly searching around google support for this the other day but never hit paydirt. Its annoying as hell.
Edit. You inspired me to go look again. Go into the gallery app select settings and turn off sync with google account. Go into main settings/apps/gallery and delete data and cache. Reboot. Worked for me.
krabman said:
+1 on this, I was randomly searching around google support for this the other day but never hit paydirt. Its annoying as hell.
Edit. You inspired me to go look again. Go into the gallery app select settings and turn off sync with google account. Go into main settings/apps/gallery and delete data and cache. Reboot. Worked for me.
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Thank you! While you solution does work and I have tried it, it isn't quite exactly what I am looking for. Reason being because I do sync my pictures to my google account considering I just blew through over 70GB in DropBox storage and can no longer automatically upload pictures I take. Basically, I am looking for a way to selectively pick what to display in my Gallery app(I don't want anything Picasa/Google+/Hangouts/Photos in there). Since the intro of the Photos app which is mostly tied in with G+, it shows everything online, and if they are going to keep the gallery app, then they should at least allow it to be used for offline images available on the device(Just like Play Music has, where it gives you the option to to use music on your online account or what you have on your device).
Unfortunately, the dependency of the camera app on the gallery app, makes it impossible to revert back to a previous version of the gallery.
Ah, sorry about that. Not sure how you can pull that one off, I sure didn't see mention of such when I was searching.
Try making a .nomedia file in the picassa folder where it downloads the pics. And same to every other folder you don't wanna see in your gallery. This will help you select what displays along with auto sync enabled.
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Try making a .nomedia file in the picassa folder where it downloads the pics. And same to every other folder you don't wanna see in your gallery. This will help you select what displays along with auto sync enabled.
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It creates one for every contact I send a picture to in Hangouts.
That's going to be a lot of files to be created. I guess there is no other way. Unless I just install another gallery.
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Neurotica said:
It creates one for every contact I send a picture to in Hangouts.
That's going to be a lot of files to be created. I guess there is no other way. Unless I just install another gallery.
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I've been using Quickpic for years, and it's very stable and easy to use.
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Neurotica said:
It creates one for every contact I send a picture to in Hangouts.
That's going to be a lot of files to be created. I guess there is no other way. Unless I just install another gallery.
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No it's not like that. You would have to copy paste only one .nomedia in the main folder of the data file of hangouts and one in picassa.

Upload pics to G+ Album

This has been driving me crazy for the last couple hours. I transferred some files from my camera using the play memories app like i normally do with nfc. These pics normally get uploaded automatically to google plus with autobackup, but for some reason the app thinks the photos have already been backed up (btw i hate the new integrated all pics view I liked being able to tell where my pics were without having to got to a folderstab).
I have tried sharing the pics with the google plus app and the photos app but both want me to make a post that is shared. I don't want to share the photos, I just want to upload them to a private album I already have set up. I also tried uploading individually with the stock gallery app to "photos" it asks to confirm my account I click the upload button and nothing happens.
Please tell me I'm missing something and the geniuses at google who made an awesome photo sharing/manipulating/editing app didn't forget the part where some people like putting their folders into albums and sometimes you want to back up some of your pics and not all of them.
I really wish you could select a few pitcures and hit a backup button that put those pics into a backup queue that follows rules you have established ie, upload only on wifi, while plugged in, at this size.
Please help
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How do I access Google photo cloud storage

OK, so if I take a pic and immediately go to my Google photo app I can see the pic currently being uploaded to the cloud. Now if I delete that photo, it deletes it from the device, but how can I find/view the copy that just got saved to the cloud?
If it's done uploading, and you delete it within Google photos it gets moved to the trash. Gone from Google photos (still retrievable from the trash). Now if you take a pic and delete it from the camera app immediately after taking it, it probably wasn't uploaded and is gone.
When you first open Google photos the pictures that you are seeing are what is stored on the cloud. If you go to the top left menu (three lines) there's a device folder part, that's where you can see what's actually on your device. Make sense?
OK I did a little more experimenting. When I took a photo, I left the camera app and went to the Google photo app. I saw the spinning icon on the picture, then a cloud icon with a check mark which should indicate it's done uploading to the cloud, but when I deleted it, it just sent it to the trash without saving it on the cloud or on the device.
Then I tried deleting a pic I took yesterday. It asked me if I wanted to delete the device copy and if I did delete it I would still be able to view it from the cloud. So I deleted it from the device and I was in fact able to view it within the app.
So, even though I watched the newest pic get uploaded to the cloud, I must've still deleted too quickly to where it didn't save and just got trashed. I guess you have to let the pic sit for a while and "cement" itself in the cloud before deleting.
Thanks for responding quickly and helping me out
If you delete the photo from the Google Photos app then in essence you are deleting it from the cloud. Google Photos is your cloud.
If you want to free up storage on your phone then just go to settings in the photo app and hit free up storage. This way it removes it from the phone storage but leaves it in the Google Photos app.

[BUG] Google Photo wrong backup , Amazon photos backup doesn't work

I want to advice this 2 problem, with my mi note 10, already rised into this threads:
https://c.mi.com/thread-2541316-1-0.html
https://c.mi.com/thread-2727222-1-0.html
https://c.mi.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2727141&extra=page=1
Google photo recognize as 0.7megapixel (960x480) photo taken with main camera, and it will backup photos with such this low resolution.
Amazon photos isn't simply able to complete a backup.
Really bad situation here....
I've already triggered mi support, what we can do?
No problem with Google Photos from my Note 10.
Smae identical problem about Google photo
No problem for me, Google Photos backup 27MP and 108MP photos without any issues
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No problem for me, Google Photos backup 27MP and 108MP photos without any issues
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Yeah, no problem here either. All photos backed up in full size.
Some of my photos are backed up but others are flagged as 0.7 Mpixels. It's not related to our phone because I found the issue on Mi9T/9T Pro forums. It seems that moving the photos from one folder and back again to the original fixes the issue.
Same problem
Some photos back up fine, but some show erroneously as 0.7Mpix and don’t back up to Google photos. Those ones also erroneously show no GPS location.
Same problem. To correct it I have to clear all the data of Google Photos app and delete low res duplicates. It is really annoying
There is a workaround it (better than clearing the google photos)
the methods are:
1. Open the built-in Photo App. Create an album(ex. G-Backup Album) inside the built-in photo App. This will create a folder with the same name as the album.
2. Select all you photos and click "Add to" button below. Then select the "G-Backup Album" album and click on "Move" option. After this, all photos will be moved to "G-Backup Album" Album.
3. Open Google Photo App, add "G-Backup Album" folder to the list of backup folders in the Setting. Then you will see that all photos are being uploaded normally and the size are shown correctly.
Makesure u dont open the Google Photo apps.. before you do this methods
Hi Wing_Zero85 in my case something similar happens to my "mi note 10".
Neither the amazon photos app nor google photos automatically upload the photos to the cloud.
I have activated all the permissions, I have tried many things and nothing, they do not automatically upload photos to the cloud.
With google photos it doesn't bother me too much, but with amazon photos it does bother me.
For amazon photos to upload photos to the cloud, I have to manually open the app, because it doesn't automatically.
For the other apps, there are no problems, whatsapp, telegram ... they work well in the background, notifications arrive well .....
But what happens with the amazon photos app is very annoying and frustrating.

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When I check the google photos app under photo settings/ back up & sync/ /back up device folders I don't see all the albums in my S22 gallery. Is anyone else having this problem?
jizreal said:
When I check the google photos app under photo settings/ back up & sync/ /back up device folders I don't see all the albums in my S22 gallery. Is anyone else having this problem?
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That's known problem that users have with Google photos. I've looked into this on other forums. Google is not looking into fixing this any time soon.
I've tried multiple things but they really don't apply to what we are trying to do. For example i have a DJI (DRONE) folder that i want to back up but it's not even an option to select.
The only fix was to create a new folder in your "pictures" folder using a file explorer, and then transfer the pictures you want back up into that folder. Google photos will read the folders that are inside your "pictures" folder. You should now be able to backup that newly created folder. Hope that helps
I also wish there was a way to remove screenshots to be automatically backed up, unfortunately with Google photos there is no option to deselect the screenshot folder. Google photos is awesome in so many ways but these quirks are very annoying
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I also wish there was a way to remove screenshots to be automatically backed up, unfortunately with Google photos there is no option to deselect the screenshot folder. Google photos is awesome in so many ways but these quirks are very annoying
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Not sure what you mean, but Photos does detect images in the screenshots folder.
maybe the 100GB one drive offer is better than. anyone know if it syncs perfectly??
The problem is with Samsung phones. On previous phone Huawei, I didn't had this issue. Because in DCIM folder were only photos that I took. Everything else were in Pictures folder.
This is really annoying!
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maybe the 100GB one drive offer is better than. anyone know if it syncs perfectly??
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I use OneDrive and it works for me. It can be a bit confusing though so this explanation of how it works for me unfortunately must be a bit long. I do backup all except one or two folders on my computer to OneDrive. I don't remember the settings I might have initially put on OneDrive but here is what happens with my photos.
When I take a photo on my phone or do a screen capture on the phone, OD immediately uploads those to the cloud and then downloads them into a folder I have on my computer called "Camera Roll". So, within a few seconds to a minute of taking a photo or screenshot on my phone, those are available on my computer in the Camera Roll folder. Oddly when I then look at my pictures in OD, the photo will be saved there, but the screenshot will not. So even though OD syncs screenshots from my phone up to the cloud and then down to my Camera Roll folder on my computer, OD does not seem to save the screenshots in the cloud storage. But I end up with screenshots both on my phone and on my computer, so this is OK for me.
When someone sends me a photo in a message or email, those seem to get backed up by OD also. If I click the OD option to show photos from all folders, I do see those photos that were sent to me. I do get messages and emails both on my phone and on my computer, so I am not sure if it matters to OD if I first look at a photo received in a message on my computer or on my phone.
Once a photo is on my computer, if I edit it and save it to another folder on the computer, that copy will be backed up by OD also.
It gets interesting when deleting photos.
If I delete a photo from the Camera Roll folder on my computer, it is deleted from OD cloud storage also, but it is left in my gallery app on my phone. Of course, if I open OD on my phone and look, the photo is not there as it has been deleted from cloud storage.
If I delete a photo from my gallery app on my phone, as long as this photo has already been uploaded by OD, the only place it is deleted is on my phone. I like this because I can delete photos off my phone, but they stay in OD cloud storage and in my Camera Roll folder on my computer.
If I delete a photo in OD that has been previously uploaded from my phone’s camera and put into my computer’s Camera Roll folder, it is removed from OD and from the computer’s Camera Roll folder. It is left in my phone's gallery app though.
Hope this helps.
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I use OneDrive and it works for me. It can be a bit confusing though so this explanation of how it works for me unfortunately must be a bit long. I do backup all except one or two folders on my computer to OneDrive. I don't remember the settings I might have initially put on OneDrive but here is what happens with my photos.
When I take a photo on my phone or do a screen capture on the phone, OD immediately uploads those to the cloud and then downloads them into a folder I have on my computer called "Camera Roll". So, within a few seconds to a minute of taking a photo or screenshot on my phone, those are available on my computer in the Camera Roll folder. Oddly when I then look at my pictures in OD, the photo will be saved there, but the screenshot will not. So even though OD syncs screenshots from my phone up to the cloud and then down to my Camera Roll folder on my computer, OD does not seem to save the screenshots in the cloud storage. But I end up with screenshots both on my phone and on my computer, so this is OK for me.
When someone sends me a photo in a message or email, those seem to get backed up by OD also. If I click the OD option to show photos from all folders, I do see those photos that were sent to me. I do get messages and emails both on my phone and on my computer, so I am not sure if it matters to OD if I first look at a photo received in a message on my computer or on my phone.
Once a photo is on my computer, if I edit it and save it to another folder on the computer, that copy will be backed up by OD also.
It gets interesting when deleting photos.
If I delete a photo from the Camera Roll folder on my computer, it is deleted from OD cloud storage also, but it is left in my gallery app on my phone. Of course, if I open OD on my phone and look, the photo is not there as it has been deleted from cloud storage.
If I delete a photo from my gallery app on my phone, as long as this photo has already been uploaded by OD, the only place it is deleted is on my phone. I like this because I can delete photos off my phone, but they stay in OD cloud storage and in my Camera Roll folder on my computer.
If I delete a photo in OD that has been previously uploaded from my phone’s camera and put into my computer’s Camera Roll folder, it is removed from OD and from the computer’s Camera Roll folder. It is left on my phone though.
Hope this helps.
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this is what i was worried about. i am trying to find an auto backup strategy where it backs it up maybe weekly. i take a lot of photos and that means i also sift through and delete many so syncing cloud and pc would be a headache. i have my phone san-photos/video already auto backed up to my samsung cloud so i'm just looking for a media sync that works for my needs. thanks for sharing.
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this is what i was worried about. i am trying to find an auto backup strategy where it backs it up maybe weekly. i take a lot of photos and that means i also sift through and delete many so syncing cloud and pc would be a headache. i have my phone san-photos/video already auto backed up to my samsung cloud so i'm just looking for a media sync that works for my needs. thanks for sharing.
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Yes, because all photos taken get uploaded right away, and deleting a photo from the camera app does not delete it from OD, you end up with a lot of photos saved in OD that you don't really want. So yes, if you take hundreds of photos, this would be a pain. I am not sure of all the settings in OD though. Maybe you can have it backup only periodically or set it so a photo deleted on the phone also gets deleted from OD?
If I take a photo, it's not uploaded till I open photos: is this normal?
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If I take a photo, it's not uploaded till I open photos: is this normal?
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I am using OneDrive and immediately after I take a photo, that photo is uploaded to OD and downloaded to the Camera Roll folder on my Windows computer.
If I take photos on a hike in the woods and have no service, as soon as I get reconnected to cell service or wifi, the photos are uploaded.

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