Here's the endpoint - I want to have an internet connected device in my hand that can make and receive calls and send and receive texts, regardless of whether I have mobile coverage. As long as it's on the internet, I want to be able to use it as a regular phone.
I'm halfway there.
I have an Android phone with my primary number, plugged in and connected to WiFi in my flat, a good mobile signal area. I can install MySMS on it to handle texts, then the tablet app on the device I keep with me. That's SMS sorted.
What I need is some way of making a voice call over the internet to that handset, and routing that out via my cellular provider. And automatically routing incoming calls over the internet to the portable one, or if I'm making a cellular call, have the caller ID display the number of the phone in the flat.
Basically, I think I want to turn an Android phone into a Google Voice server, just for my use.
Can this be done?
Thanks
looking for the same. have you found something ?
I never did
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Hello everyone,
Is it possible to get some sort of notification that someone is trying to call while my Fuze is tethered on a non-3G network? For example, if someone tries calling, a program on the phone detects the call and notifies the user. Or, what kind of data can be sent while the phone is tethered on a non-3G network? Just SMS? Finally, I have read that as long as data is not actively being exchanged the phone will work.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
" tethered on a non-3G network?"
problem is that ever since gprs was invented it haven't
blocked for callers to be received thats why it was invented
apart from it's speed inc over normal gsm data modem
however if ones operator use old technology in their centrals
one get the problem you experience where data block calls
the issue being isolated to your isp rather then your phone
there really is no way for you to get an notification by the phone
as the phone never get any info from the central
personally gprs data never blocked a call or sms for me
schwke said:
Hello everyone,
1) Is it possible to get some sort of notification that someone is trying to call while my Fuze is tethered on a non-3G network? For example, if someone tries calling, a program on the phone detects the call and notifies the user. Or,
2) what kind of data can be sent while the phone is tethered on a non-3G network? Just SMS?
3) Finally, I have read that as long as data is not actively being exchanged the phone will work.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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I'm on AT&T so all my answer will be as I know on this network.
1) It will ring, hope that is notification enough.
2)All data, it is just like being online on a dial-up connection but a bit faster.
3) Phone works, HOWEVER, if it is not on 3g any calls will interupt the data flow. Meaning if you recieve a call it will disconnect your data connection. Voice overrides the data.
Ok, thanks for the information! I am on AT&T as well with the Fuze and mostly work on the Edge network. I noticed while doing some trial and error that the phone would ring or receive SMS only when data was not actively being transferred. That is why I was wondering if they made or program, or some notification system that would alert an incoming call or text.
A guy I work with keeps arguing with me that you can't send text messages over wifi so setting my phone on wifi when at home to receive text messages and e-mails is pointless since it doesn't work.
Can someone please tell me if this is true or not?
The reason I use wifi is because my cell phone connection is crappy when at my house.
Your friend is correct.
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Your friend is correct.
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+1
Text messages go through your carrier's network, not your wifi network
+2, your device does NOT do this through the data connection, so even though you might have mobile data turned off, or in this case, connected to wifi. It's using the Short message service center to communicate the data, this is over the voice network effectively, NOT DATA.
Also, this is the wrong forum for this OP.
Some T-Mo phones, like the G2x, can connect to the voice network through wifi, still uses minutes though.
Google voice will let send an SMS over a data connection.
There is an App available called TextPlus that allows you to send text messages over wifi. It does not use your cell # - it sets you up with a generic address
I use it on my tablet and works very well
It is available on the marketplace
Regards,
Get viber. Is easy and you can make phone calls and texts over wifi. Cheers!
Hi All! This is my first guide/thread so be kind. I was looking for a way to conserve money... I am on boost prepaid and it gets quite expensive when talking, or sending a few txt messages. I found there is a way to activate unconditional call forwarding which, now unfortunately does use up minutes, once activated (*72XXXXXXXXXX for boost) calls are automatically forwarded to a google voice number, and can be deactivated (*720 on boost). There maybe many ways to call forward depending on your carrier; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_forwarding... EDIT: now boost is charging me for forwarded calls, so I just call back with groove... the automation is still helpful though:
I think I have finally found the easiest most reliable method; you will need to enter your forwarding codes if you aren't on boost:
Needed items:
Android phone on carrier of your choice. Or you can use a tablet for wifi only calls, if your tablet doesn't have a mic, then try using a bluetooth headset.. maybe even a usb dongle if there is no bluetooth, but usb is available
Google voice (from market), and a google voice account (to send free SMS messages)
Groove IP ($4.99 one time in market to make/receive free voip calls)
LLama app (free, but we need this test version: http://www.mediafire.com/?qp5dfbqsc8ci88g) This version of LLama includes permission to dial #s, this is needed for forwarding #s, so don't use the one from the market.
In theory, groove IP can work over 3g, but in reality it doesn't for me. A short call to someone on the same cell network works at times, but calling anywhere else results in a choppy frustrating mess... therefore this guide assumes groove only works for you over wifi.
1) Get your apps installed.
2) Open Google voice, login, choose never use google voice to make calls, I had to skip the part where it asks you to setup voicemail because this requires conditional call forwarding (rings phone first then forwards to voicemail) which my carrier doesn't support. Your miles may vary here, but I recommend skipping this for now. When responding to, or sending text messages check the box 'always perform this action' and choose voice. Ask the people who txt you to now txt your google voice number. They will figure this out if you always respond to their messages via the google voice app.
3) Connect to wifi, run Groove IP, and login. Groove can be tricky to get working perfectly, but with some tweaks it works great for me. Here's my grooveIP settings:
uncheck 3g/4g calling, check accept calls on answer, under native dialer options-built in dialer preference- choose wifi only, under native dialer-exclusion numbers, enter your forwarding and 'disable' forwarding codes (dependent on carrier) separated by commas. Under audio/echo settings lower your mic gain, mine is set at -8, but yours may be different. Under miscellaneous check autostart and enter your default area code for easier dialing. Now verify calls are working by dialing the google voice test number: 9093900003. This will echo back everything you say so listen for echos/distortion, then make adjustments necessary. Use the 'troubleshooting' section under settings as a last resort, as you *should* be able to get everything working better if it is working at all at this point... tested on an evo 3d and an evo shift.
4) Run the LLama app. This will take the longest to configure of the three, click through the app and read the little one time dialogue boxes. This is a great free app, so if you find it useful, please donate some money to the developer. The configuration here may take some tweaking depending on your personal lifestyle, but I will share my current configuration(s):
a) Under Areas, I have Home, work, etc, anyplace there is a reliable wifi connection. Locations are based on cell towers and will need to be 'learned'
b) Under events: I deleted all the defaults and created:
* 'Near Hotspot': At 'locations' home, work, friends, family, school, etc (fill these in with your wifi enabled locations), delay for 4 minutes cancelling delayed if false, then turn on wifi.
* 'Wifi connected' When wifi is connected to <Any Wifi network> run Groove IP, run shortcut 'Forward' (direct dial to contact 'Forward' - *72XXXXXXXXXX), queue another event; wait one minute, disable mobile data (optional)
* 'Wifi Disconnected' When the phone is disconnected from <Any Wifi network> delay for one minute and enable mobile data
(disabling/enabling mobile data are optional but help conserve battery)
* 'Away from hotspot': When the phone disconnects from <Any Wifi network> delay for 2 minutes cancelling delayed if false, then disable Wifi, run a direct dial shortcut 'unforward' (*720), then run an android intent com.gvoip.STOP_GROOVE_IP. For this intent, choose custom, broadcast for the intent send mode, the package name is 'com.gvoip', and the action is 'com.gvoip.STOP_GROOVE_IP', leave everything else blank. This is needed because simply killing groove IP will result in it restarting automatically.
c) leave profile tab alone for now
d) troubleshoot to work out glitches... you can use the little clock icon in LLama to see history and what triggered last events
This does take some initial configuration/tweaking, but once everything works, it's just awesome. Now whenever I'm nearby a wifi hotspot I don't have to pay for minutes when making calls, and SMS through google voice is free always. Best of all, everything happens automatically so you don't forget about connecting wifi, forwarding/unforwarding, or starting/stopping groove IP. Remember to hit thanks if this helps you lower your phone bill.
**Edit**
This guide may still be helpful for a quite a few people, but unfortunately Boost is now using minutes on forwarded inbound connections... which sucks, because they weren't for about 2 months, and nothing changed. What you can do though, is leave out the forwarding aspect of this automation sequence. When people call, just don't answer and call them back right away via groove, or sms from google voice, this way you will still be able to conserve your minutes while on wifi. You still must use minutes both calling and receiving a call while driving or in motion, and google voice is always free for sms.
Terrific guide. Very detailed, thanks button pressed. Quickie question: If I begin a call on WiFi, but wander away from the hotspot coverage, it will drop correct?
Happy Thanksgiving!
Hey KidFromBigD, like your logo, I am a fellow boilermaker
To answer your question: you would drop the call if you were to disconnect from wifi or leave the area. This is why it's important to stay in range of the wifi hotspot, make sure there is no interference by doing a scan initially and setting your router to a channel not occupied. Also make sure transmission or your other torrent client isn't running full throttle, otherwise voice will sound all garbled. In terms of QoS voip should be prioritized, but I don't think all home routers treat groove with priority.
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Hey KidFromBigD, like your logo, I am a fellow boilermaker
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Wow, since I installed llama, I've been obsessed with making it work for me. Truly haven't even scratched the surface of what this thing can do. Of course your original post described how to make VoIP calls with Groove, but running out of minutes hasn't been a problem for me. This is why I like the forums: You never know what you'll see and how you can improve your smartphone experience with a simple app.
PS: Earned my BSEE from Purdue in 1992.
You could port your number to google voice to get around forwarding
I am using GrooveIP and Llama as well, I ported my number to google voice and i have all calls go to 'chat'. when I am on Wifi, I will receive calls, but when I have data turned off (when I am not on wifi I usually do) it goes to voice mail. The fact that Google Voice is involved is transparent to people calling me. I don't think you have anything to lose if you port your number to google voice, because then it can follow you across any carrier, sim card or phone.
If I am expecting an important call I will forward to both my mobile number (sim card number) and to chat. So I can pick up if I need to.
This is not perfect but it saves a ton of minutes.
I would like to have llama change my GV to forward calls only to chat during wifi connections, and then forward to my mobile number when not on wifi. anyone know how to do this?
Thanks for the tutorial
I recently bought a tablet and I want to be able to place calls through my phone by dialing on my tablet. I can access the dialer by creating a shortcut to the activity using ADW, but it says voice calling is not supported. I know cars can place calls remotely using their voice recognition, so it is definitely possible on the phone's end. Does anyone here know if there is a way to remotely trigger a phone call?
Good question, I have not seen away yet. I do know you can send text and check you Google voice mail through Google Voice...
Try Tablet Talk. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apdroid.tabtalk
Sent from my GT-P3113 using xda premium
I've been a Tablet Talk fan but it requires that you be on same WiFi SSID or Bluetooth. The bluetooth is very portable, needs no data connection.
Talkatone https://play.google.com/store/search?q=talkatonetakes about 10 minutes to setup and works beautifully.
Cloud SMS is new and works wonderfully for text https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5iZWNoYXJkLmNsb3Vkc21zIl0. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951631 I think with your phone on and connected to internet via DATA or WiFi, you can text with the tablet anywhere you can get an internet connection.
If you want to do some work and use true SIP dialing, I use this:
[Mod] Make/Receive Free Phone Calls! {V3} [Now Easier!] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823701
I am a customer of them, for my home phone, and I just found out they make an app. Not only for the android, but for ipad to as well.
Bit pricy, but I am already registerd with them for a two year contract for only $20.00..., all it offers is a either a "free" phone number or I can use the one I have setup for my home phone.
If this is not for you you can search for VOIP in the app market.
MagicJack App
This idea was great, thanks for the thought...!!!
Sincerely,
MagicJack Customer
I have purchased eSIM data plan with DENT eSIM because my carrier does not have option to use on my galaxy watch.
Now I get all notification etc on my watch normally but calls are not forwarded... Is there any way to achieve this?
Thank you
Configure just normal call forwarding from your main phone number to the secondary. And you should have calls enabled on your eSim, not only internet.
Well I only have data plan on my watch so I am looking for solution that calls are forwarded via mobile data. And when I call from the watch the call should be going bia mobile data to the phone which would then make a call.
Thank you any help appreciated
I don't think this is possible at all. Only through Bluetooth, or on highly customized smartphone ROM (like Samsung is using on their phones to achieve such functionality over Wi-Fi). And for sure - no - on any stock ROM.
Bluetooth-WiFi watch versions with non-Samsung phone, Remote Connection also work with WiFi.