Hi guys,
I've been trying to find a decent solution to stream music to my non bluetooth enabled car stereo while at the same time charging and providing a holder for my phone.
So far, I've found this which looks exactly like what I'm looking for:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FM-Transmit...-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-2-II-N7100-/170935978676
However, I don't trust ebay that much.
Does anybody have any experience with this product or something similar?
Any recommendations out there?
Thanks in advace
While I would not recommend any fm devices, I suppose http://www.newpotatotech.com/TUNELINK_ANDROID/tunelink_android.html Is probably the best one out there.
Are you aware that Sony, Pioneer, and JVC make a variety of head units that support aux input, bluetooth, and even usb inputs for under a hundred bucks?
Solutions Etcetera said:
While I would not recommend any fm devices, I suppose http://www.newpotatotech.com/TUNELINK_ANDROID/tunelink_android.html Is probably the best one out there.
Are you aware that Sony, Pioneer, and JVC make a variety of head units that support aux input, bluetooth, and even usb inputs for under a hundred bucks?
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Thanks for the recommendation.
My car's radio slot is not standard sized though, so that severely limits my ability to simple switch my radio to a more feature rich one. Unless I misunderstood what you meant by the head units. I'm driving a Skoda, I've also found some Chinese no-brand stock-sized replacement radios, but they're almost $400 and look shady enough.
The new potato link you posted is definitely interesting, but above my budget for this, I was looking at spending a total of $60 tops, including the mount.
Will definitely keep it in mind. Maybe a cheap mount plus the new potato suggestion would be ideal.
Any other recommendations out there?
Thanks
Go on newegg and get the power gogroove flexsmart x2. Only $45 and a lot of reviews. On amazon it's $48 with 2500 reviews at 4.5 stars. Someone else on here has it and posted pics.
Can't find much of anything for USB-C headphones yet. I have a bluetooth set (actually a couple) but don't always bring them or charge them. Part of that is b/c I haven't had to yet. I suspect I'll eventually just keep them with me more often and charge them more regularly - but we're not there yet.
I found these JBL ones through HTC that have some potential. I usually like JBL stuff and these are the style that I like (with the little wing to keep it in place). They're marked down a LOT right now to $80 at HTC.com (from $200, also seen them at $150). I just placed an order to give them a try - can't really be sure they're 100% compatible yet, but I think they're worth a shot. I also haven't really found them sold at any other reputable places online (there's also an Apple Lightning version too).
http://www.htc.com/us/accessories/jbl-reflect-aware-c-earphones/
Anyone found any others they're going to try?
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Can't find much of anything for USB-C headphones yet. I have a bluetooth set (actually a couple) but don't always bring them or charge them. Part of that is b/c I haven't had to yet. I suspect I'll eventually just keep them with me more often and charge them more regularly - but we're not there yet.
I found these JBL ones through HTC that have some potential. I usually like JBL stuff and these are the style that I like (with the little wing to keep it in place). They're marked down a LOT right now to $80 at HTC.com (from $200, also seen them at $150). I just placed an order to give them a try - can't really be sure they're 100% compatible yet, but I think they're worth a shot. I also haven't really found them sold at any other reputable places online (there's also an Apple Lightning version too).
http://www.htc.com/us/accessories/jbl-reflect-aware-c-earphones/
Anyone found any others they're going to try?
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The JBL's you bought from HTC should work. I know the HTC USonic earbuds won't, though, which is a bummer. They sound great on my U11. Can't comment on any other USB-C earbuds yet.
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The JBL's you bought from HTC should work. I know the HTC USonic earbuds won't, though, which is a bummer. They sound great on my U11. Can't comment on any other USB-C earbuds yet.
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Ya, I remember reading somewhere that HTC's stuff isn't necessarily compatible with other USB C phones - which is dumb.
I just ordered those from HTC as well...seriously hope they're compatible, but I guess we'll see. I'd really prefer to never pull this dongle out of the box haha, but at this point I'm just happy to have that box in my possession after that whole launch/shipping fiasco
I tried pumping 1More for some info to see if they had any plans of make the quad driver (or even the triple driver) earbuds with USB C, since they already make it with that dopey lightning connection...and the response I received was that they may look into if some bigger companies begin using USB C...guess Google and others aren't quite big enough for them
Just tried my pair of usb Jbl headphones with the essential and I confirm it works.
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Headphones are here! As mentioned, yes, they do work fine. I'd give them a 6/10, I guess.
I didn't even realize these are active noise canceling too. That's really not something I even care about but I guess nice to have? Generally I find that most in-ear buds cancel enough noise on their own for my needs. The ANC just isn't really something I'd seek out and pay extra for.
Anyway - I like the headphones. The buds are BIG compared to others I've had. Like I think I already mentioned, I like the wings with any of my in-ear buds to fit better and stay in place. And just like any others, these come with various sizes of both the in-ear portion and the wings.
Sound isn't bad. There's a JBL app for them where you can setup your own EQ and control the noise cancelation (you can also do that from the inline remote). I don't really notice a difference in the settings, but maybe I'll play with that more next time I'm flying (later this year). Since they are active noise canceling, they will draw power from your phone (and there's a permission popup when you first connect them).
Biggest complaint is that they are not loud enough. I wish it had maybe 2 or 3 more clicks of volume than it does. Maybe I won't care as much with the noise canceling, but I don't want to feel like I have to max them every time.
I also want to try this Xiaomi set: http://c.mi.com/thread-226064-1-1.html
These may have compatibility problems like the HTCs though. I have a set of regular Xiaomi in-ear buds and really like them (comfort and sound quality). I'd like to believe these would be similar.
I've tried two different USB-C audio dongles from Amazon, neither worked. So far the only converter to work is the one that shipped with the phone. It will be good to see more headphone options.
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I've tried two different USB-C audio dongles from Amazon, neither worked. So far the only converter to work is the one that shipped with the phone. It will be good to see more headphone options.
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That's unfortunate for those going the dongle route.
Were the ones you tried random "off" brand dongles that were just cheap? Or were they any sort of reputable brand?
Joseche and iTParts are the brands. I bought two of each and tested them all. They claim Moto Z support. Since it was Amazon, I send them back, no harm but I haven't found a dongle that works, other then the one that shipped with the phone.
I found an extra charger and adapter on eBay.
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I've tried two different USB-C audio dongles from Amazon, neither worked. So far the only converter to work is the one that shipped with the phone. It will be good to see more headphone options.
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Same experience here. I emailed Essential to purchase more adapters (I like to keep them around the house, in the car, on my keychain, etc.) and they informed me that they do not sell them at this time. Bummer, so I went to Amazon and bought two of the Motorola-branded ones and of course, they don't work.
I think if I understand correctly, it has to do with Legacy USB audio. Some adapters have the DAC/amp in the dongle (which is what we apparently need on the Essential) and some route legacy audio through the USB-C port (like Motorola). So now I don't know where to turn.
Has anyone tried the HTC headphone adapter? If their USB-C headphones work on the Essential, then perhaps their dongle does as well. I guess it's worth another $20 gamble to see. Maybe it will even improve the audio
-Collin-
Edit: HTC is now sold out of the dongles. LOL **sigh**
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Same experience here. I emailed Essential to purchase more adapters (I like to keep them around the house, in the car, on my keychain, etc.) and they informed me that they do not sell them at this time. Bummer, so I went to Amazon and bought two of the Motorola-branded ones and of course, they don't work.
I think if I understand correctly, it has to do with Legacy USB audio. Some adapters have the DAC/amp in the dongle (which is what we apparently need on the Essential) and some route legacy audio through the USB-C port (like Motorola). So now I don't know where to turn.
Has anyone tried the HTC headphone adapter? If their USB-C headphones work on the Essential, then perhaps their dongle does as well. I guess it's worth another $20 gamble to see. Maybe it will even improve the audio
-Collin-
Edit: HTC is now sold out of the dongles. LOL **sigh**
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Well the good news is, I just tried the HTC adapter and it for sure works. :highfive:
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Well the good news is, I just tried the HTC adapter and it for sure works. :highfive:
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Thanks so much for confirming this!
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I've tried two different USB-C audio dongles from Amazon, neither worked. So far the only converter to work is the one that shipped with the phone. It will be good to see more headphone options.
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Reason is the dongle that comes with the PH1 has a build in DAC, when you plugged it in after the latest software update for the phone, you got a message to update the software for the dongle.
I just found this adapter for 3.5 mm headphones and USB-C to USB-C. https://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Connector-Converter-Charging-Motorola/dp/B0714DYLW4
I've tried the HTC MAX320, no luck.
I used the ones included with the LeEco Le Pro 3 and they worked fine
Has anyone tried the Libratone Q Adapt USB-C Earphones sold by google they are also $150
I just purchased the Fiio BRT1 bluetooth adapter which has a high quality DAC in it (AK4376). Might be the way to go to charge and use headphones at same time without the dual-dongle approach. It should come today. Initial reviews for it seem positive. I have other AK-series DACs on other devices and really like them, so hopefully Fiio implements it well in this unit.
I think the best route though is to get a USB portable DAC/Amp unit and a usb-c otg cable for best sound quality -then you can use whatever headphones you want.
Hey everyone! I am brand new to this forum and joined because I saw the most quality forum threads on the Joying head unit line of products here than any other forum I could find. I have a 2000 Chevrolet Corvette that I am hoping to install an 8" Joying Snapdragon radio in and could use some help gaining legitimate reviews and maybe some answers for questions I have regarding the Snapdragon and other Joying products. I'll number the talking points below for anyone willing to contribute and help me out. Thanks!
1) How is the Joying Snapdragon product that you have experience with, EXCLUDING all experiences pertaining to steering wheel controls? the C5 did not offer steering wheel controls, so I'm out of luck for that luxury.
2) How bright are the screens? Given the radio location in my car, glares when the roof is on is very unlikely, but a brighter screen is always better and would help if I chose to use the radio while the top is off and the sun can shine in almost directly onto it.
3) This is a very, very niche inquiry, but does anyone have a Joying snapdragon or android 10 head unit happen to also own an Xbox 1 or newer? If so, could you please tell me if you can download the Xbox app from the Google Store and install it on the radio? Furthermore, if this can be accomplished, can you please see if it is possible to Remote Play your Xbox on the Joying head unit via the Xbox app? The way I am thinking about it, doing this would require you to pair a wireless Xbox remote to the head unit via Bluetooth and then having the radio connected to WiFi (hotspot or sim-card, I suppose), OR it might work with a USB-wired remote connected to the radio via the USB port(?). I wouldn't be playing games while driving, but it would be something very cool to do at things like car meets or whatever. IF someone tries this, AND it works... how is it?
4) I see a lot of reviews in certain places here and there that say the Joying head units really don't offer any improvement over factory radios. Can someone please school me on this? A Best Buy employee told me once that almost all aftermarket radios (grant it, he was referring to Kenwoods, Alpines, etc.) will inherently improve the sound (either by volume or quality) over the factory radio because the aftermarket units "push" more power (in watts?) than factory units. I've replaced the factory Bose "twiddler" speakers in my car with aftermarket JBL speakers that can be found at Best Buy, so I'm hoping the Joying Snapdragon can make the most of them. Other than that, my car's sound system remains the same.
5) Does anyone happen to also have experience with these units and their communication/compatibility with the OBD2 adapter? Joying offers a deal to get their wireless OBD2 device, which I assume may be used on apps like Torque and such. Furthermore, does anyone think you could buy an OBD2-to-USB cable and run a wired connection to the radio for a faster, more responsive reading when using apps like Torque to view engine and ECU data?
Thank you to everyone who chimes in! I really appreciate it and I hope to hear from you all soon.
Chris Laymon said:
Hey everyone! I am brand new to this forum and joined because I saw the most quality forum threads on the Joying head unit line of products here than any other forum I could find. I have a 2000 Chevrolet Corvette that I am hoping to install an 8" Joying Snapdragon radio in and could use some help gaining legitimate reviews and maybe some answers for questions I have regarding the Snapdragon and other Joying products. I'll number the talking points below for anyone willing to contribute and help me out. Thanks!
1) How is the Joying Snapdragon product that you have experience with, EXCLUDING all experiences pertaining to steering wheel controls? the C5 did not offer steering wheel controls, so I'm out of luck for that luxury.
2) How bright are the screens? Given the radio location in my car, glares when the roof is on is very unlikely, but a brighter screen is always better and would help if I chose to use the radio while the top is off and the sun can shine in almost directly onto it.
3) This is a very, very niche inquiry, but does anyone have a Joying snapdragon or android 10 head unit happen to also own an Xbox 1 or newer? If so, could you please tell me if you can download the Xbox app from the Google Store and install it on the radio? Furthermore, if this can be accomplished, can you please see if it is possible to Remote Play your Xbox on the Joying head unit via the Xbox app? The way I am thinking about it, doing this would require you to pair a wireless Xbox remote to the head unit via Bluetooth and then having the radio connected to WiFi (hotspot or sim-card, I suppose), OR it might work with a USB-wired remote connected to the radio via the USB port(?). I wouldn't be playing games while driving, but it would be something very cool to do at things like car meets or whatever. IF someone tries this, AND it works... how is it?
4) I see a lot of reviews in certain places here and there that say the Joying head units really don't offer any improvement over factory radios. Can someone please school me on this? A Best Buy employee told me once that almost all aftermarket radios (grant it, he was referring to Kenwoods, Alpines, etc.) will inherently improve the sound (either by volume or quality) over the factory radio because the aftermarket units "push" more power (in watts?) than factory units. I've replaced the factory Bose "twiddler" speakers in my car with aftermarket JBL speakers that can be found at Best Buy, so I'm hoping the Joying Snapdragon can make the most of them. Other than that, my car's sound system remains the same.
5) Does anyone happen to also have experience with these units and their communication/compatibility with the OBD2 adapter? Joying offers a deal to get their wireless OBD2 device, which I assume may be used on apps like Torque and such. Furthermore, does anyone think you could buy an OBD2-to-USB cable and run a wired connection to the radio for a faster, more responsive reading when using apps like Torque to view engine and ECU data?
Thank you to everyone who chimes in! I really appreciate it and I hope to hear from you all soon.
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From reading the forums what learnings do you have regarding FYT based chinese origin head units so far?
Your post reads like solicitation - the information is here for you to read.
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From reading the forums what learnings do you have regarding FYT based chinese origin head units so far?
Your post reads like solicitation - the information is here for you to read.
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So, like I said, I'm new to this forum and, admittedly, I didn't look into the existence of any community guidelines that this post might violate, such as the solicitation you think my post reads as. If that's the case, I understand it if you choose to remove my post. I am probably wrong to assume that this forum is similar to car forums in that a user may post a thread whether to distribute or obtain information. For example, in the Corvette forums I use, I can post a thread about a new exhaust system I put on my car and list some things I liked and dislike about it to help future buyers, or I can ask a question about how other Corvette owners have enjoyed or disliked their experience with an aftermarket seat that I might be interested in. In either of those scenarios, I wouldn't be accused of solicitating because it's kind of the normal thing to do on a forum. So I don't potentially make the same mistake in the future, can you please tell me why my post "reads like solicitation," what the community guidelines (or whatever they are) that I may have violated, and what you mean by "the information is here for you to read?" For example, am I not allowed to post questions here?
However, I can't post a question like this on the Corvette forums because 99% of the boomers on there only buy "American, REAL QUALITY" aftermarket radios and never give android head units a chance. The other 1% seem to use the Joying 8.8" head unit because they want to retain the factory radio bezel. So, nobody over there is doing what I'm thinking of doing, so I'm coming to the only forum I found where users post information about the Joying unit.
But, to answer your question about what I've learned, I saw and read a thread started by @tRidiot under the "FYT Android Head Units" category that was titled "Do not buy a Joying Snapdragon unit - actually, Joying's customer service in general pretty well sucks." which can be found here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...service-in-general-pretty-well-sucks.4419619/ .
By reading this thread, I learned that @tRidiot had a really sour experience with Joying's customer service and was thoroughly disappointed with the way the radio interfaced with the steering wheel control canbus system (or whatever its called). So, I learned to not have any high expectations for the Joying product line to interface well with steering wheel controls. I've also read Facebook posts about this issue being consistent in other user experiences. As stated in my original post, I'm not really concerned with steering wheel controls because my car doesn't have any.
I also read a thread by @lowridincrew, with no title, in the category "Android head-units," that talks about the snapdragon product line by joying and compares it to their previous models. What i learned there is that the hardware in the snapdragon products doesn't seem to be as competitive (or fast or as powerful, etc.) as their less expensive products. It seems like some of those who commented on that thread have purchased a Snapdragon product and, in first impressions, seem to be okay with it. There seems to be an appeal for the new UI and that older models most likely won't be given the updated UI.
I've also tried to reach out to a YouTuber, SaabUnleashed, as he has done several android head units including the Joying Snapdragon, but he has not responded.
SO, that is all the information I have learned by reading threads on this forum. I would still appreciate any and all contributions that pertain to answering the questions listed above, and if I need to take my questions elsewhere, please tell me where I need to take them. Thanks!
Chris Laymon said:
Hey everyone! I am brand new to this forum and joined because I saw the most quality forum threads on the Joying head unit line of products here than any other forum I could find. I have a 2000 Chevrolet Corvette that I am hoping to install an 8" Joying Snapdragon radio in and could use some help gaining legitimate reviews and maybe some answers for questions I have regarding the Snapdragon and other Joying products. I'll number the talking points below for anyone willing to contribute and help me out. Thanks!
1) How is the Joying Snapdragon product that you have experience with, EXCLUDING all experiences pertaining to steering wheel controls? the C5 did not offer steering wheel controls, so I'm out of luck for that luxury.
2) How bright are the screens? Given the radio location in my car, glares when the roof is on is very unlikely, but a brighter screen is always better and would help if I chose to use the radio while the top is off and the sun can shine in almost directly onto it.
3) This is a very, very niche inquiry, but does anyone have a Joying snapdragon or android 10 head unit happen to also own an Xbox 1 or newer? If so, could you please tell me if you can download the Xbox app from the Google Store and install it on the radio? Furthermore, if this can be accomplished, can you please see if it is possible to Remote Play your Xbox on the Joying head unit via the Xbox app? The way I am thinking about it, doing this would require you to pair a wireless Xbox remote to the head unit via Bluetooth and then having the radio connected to WiFi (hotspot or sim-card, I suppose), OR it might work with a USB-wired remote connected to the radio via the USB port(?). I wouldn't be playing games while driving, but it would be something very cool to do at things like car meets or whatever. IF someone tries this, AND it works... how is it?
4) I see a lot of reviews in certain places here and there that say the Joying head units really don't offer any improvement over factory radios. Can someone please school me on this? A Best Buy employee told me once that almost all aftermarket radios (grant it, he was referring to Kenwoods, Alpines, etc.) will inherently improve the sound (either by volume or quality) over the factory radio because the aftermarket units "push" more power (in watts?) than factory units. I've replaced the factory Bose "twiddler" speakers in my car with aftermarket JBL speakers that can be found at Best Buy, so I'm hoping the Joying Snapdragon can make the most of them. Other than that, my car's sound system remains the same.
5) Does anyone happen to also have experience with these units and their communication/compatibility with the OBD2 adapter? Joying offers a deal to get their wireless OBD2 device, which I assume may be used on apps like Torque and such. Furthermore, does anyone think you could buy an OBD2-to-USB cable and run a wired connection to the radio for a faster, more responsive reading when using apps like Torque to view engine and ECU data?
Thank you to everyone who chimes in! I really appreciate it and I hope to hear from you all soon.
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I can answer question #4 as I've dealt with high end Kenwoods, Pioneers etc. It does improve sound and the person that said it's not any improvement over factory radios are delusional. The android radios offer a crossover and wide band EQ's. That alone improves sound quality a ton. I have a 08 Lacrosse and I've went from Factory to Kenwood DMX7704S to a Joying 4GB - 64GB 7 inch head unit. The Joying had way more control over the Kenwood. Whoever got in my car thought I had a amplifier installed but it was just my Headunit. I was able to fine tune it nicely. The only issues would be when adding a amplifier, either use the factory cables to go back to RCA cables straight to the amp or a crossover. The RCAs tend to be 1v and under as my Kenwood had 4v which makes a huge difference.
Chris Laymon said:
Hey everyone! I am brand new to this forum and joined because I saw the most quality forum threads on the Joying head unit line of products here than any other forum I could find. I have a 2000 Chevrolet Corvette that I am hoping to install an 8" Joying Snapdragon radio in and could use some help gaining legitimate reviews and maybe some answers for questions I have regarding the Snapdragon and other Joying products. I'll number the talking points below for anyone willing to contribute and help me out. Thanks!
1) How is the Joying Snapdragon product that you have experience with, EXCLUDING all experiences pertaining to steering wheel controls? the C5 did not offer steering wheel controls, so I'm out of luck for that luxury.
2) How bright are the screens? Given the radio location in my car, glares when the roof is on is very unlikely, but a brighter screen is always better and would help if I chose to use the radio while the top is off and the sun can shine in almost directly onto it.
3) This is a very, very niche inquiry, but does anyone have a Joying snapdragon or android 10 head unit happen to also own an Xbox 1 or newer? If so, could you please tell me if you can download the Xbox app from the Google Store and install it on the radio? Furthermore, if this can be accomplished, can you please see if it is possible to Remote Play your Xbox on the Joying head unit via the Xbox app? The way I am thinking about it, doing this would require you to pair a wireless Xbox remote to the head unit via Bluetooth and then having the radio connected to WiFi (hotspot or sim-card, I suppose), OR it might work with a USB-wired remote connected to the radio via the USB port(?). I wouldn't be playing games while driving, but it would be something very cool to do at things like car meets or whatever. IF someone tries this, AND it works... how is it?
4) I see a lot of reviews in certain places here and there that say the Joying head units really don't offer any improvement over factory radios. Can someone please school me on this? A Best Buy employee told me once that almost all aftermarket radios (grant it, he was referring to Kenwoods, Alpines, etc.) will inherently improve the sound (either by volume or quality) over the factory radio because the aftermarket units "push" more power (in watts?) than factory units. I've replaced the factory Bose "twiddler" speakers in my car with aftermarket JBL speakers that can be found at Best Buy, so I'm hoping the Joying Snapdragon can make the most of them. Other than that, my car's sound system remains the same.
5) Does anyone happen to also have experience with these units and their communication/compatibility with the OBD2 adapter? Joying offers a deal to get their wireless OBD2 device, which I assume may be used on apps like Torque and such. Furthermore, does anyone think you could buy an OBD2-to-USB cable and run a wired connection to the radio for a faster, more responsive reading when using apps like Torque to view engine and ECU data?
Thank you to everyone who chimes in! I really appreciate it and I hope to hear from you all soon.
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1 I've had 3 of the last 4 joying units and if you're okay with tinkering a bit to get it to your liking it's a worthwhile purchase. With a few caveats, you can't use Google assistant to make voice calls and sometimes the radio app starts when you start the stereo
2 the screen is very bright. I used to use one in my BMW convertible and even in direct sunlight I could see the screen. There is also a screen protector for some joying units on Amazon and I believe one is anti glare
3 yes you can install the Xbox app but you'd have to download the apk. The play store won't allow you to.
4 changing the EQ might offer a better experience but don't expect a mind blowing difference
5 you can ONLY use the joying obd2 with joying head units if you want to go the bluetooth route. As far as wired usb Idk but I can't imagine it not working.
Got word from a manufacturer on Aliexpress about one of their units They said the far better Snapdragon 665 versions of HU would possibly come out around June
There's no reason to go with a slower Snapdragon 625 compared to the UIS7812 imo
#1 If you are looking at Joying snapdragon units I believe they are all button less, which not having swc is going to be a pain in the butt as you will have to click on the volume icon and slide the volume up or down, hard to do while driving. But other. Than that it's solid. People complain at the fact that the 625 is an older chipset but this is a head unit not a tablet porformance is more than enough for radio stuff. One other thing people don't look at is LTE bands, the snapdragon units support band 4 and 12 which are big in the T-Mobile network, but i will note my Joying headunit has a 4g issue so haven't been able to experience a fully connected drive currently still going through customer service to rectify this issue.
#2 The screen is bright I haven't had issues with not being able to see the screen content. That being said it glares a lot, my unit being mounted 100% vertically reduces the chances of having glare issues but i can see it being an issue on my Avalon where the screen has a slight angle facing the windshield. When I had a Joying unit in that one glare was impossible to combat making the screen useless around mid day.
#3 you can download any android app as on any android device but you will not be able to pair a controller. I tried pairing my Xbox series x controller for hours, couldn't get it to connect, it seams Joying changes something in the Bluetooth interface that voids being able to access the main Bluetooth settings. For me that would make this point useless. I haven't tested USB connection only Bluetooth.
#4 This can be true. There are a lot of generic android radios for under 100 bucks that use the cheapest audio chips to get a product out and sold. This gives you the Android experience but overlooks the audio experience. Joying on the other hand is fairly expensive for a Chinese company sourcing android radios. The reason for this is they implement higher end components to also improve audio quality, and although it is not on par with high end pioneer or Kenwood's it does compare to radios in it's price range. In most cases if your car has only 4 speakers meaning 1 on each door and no factory amplifier the Joying will improve your sound. If your car has a premium audio system from factory IE. JBL, Bose, mark Levinson ext where you have 8-12 speakers in your car and bypass that with this radio it will sound like crap. It would sound like crap with any radio as factory amplifiers have different impedance and crossovers to compensate for special speaker wiring that your radio won't have. Another thing is if you plan to install a sound system in your vehicle you are told to stay away from these units as they distort at low volumes not allowing you to maximize the audio. Also true of old Joying units, these new ones get pretty close to 3v out of RCA before distortion at around 75-80% volume. I tested them with my DM-RTA. Granted this is not 4v as standard by pioneer, Sony and other headunit manufacturer it should suffice and or can be improved by a 200$ line driver. At 700$ still cheaper than any large manufacturer radio with similar specs as in size and functions like wireless car play And android auto.
#5 This I don't know but would advice to ask and see if you are able to pair a Bluetooth model and phone at the same time.
Thanks everyone for chiming in! I know this is a very dated thread by this point, but I felt like I had a few things worth mentioning in case anyone comes looking for it.
Per Joying's customer service, the snapdragon product line (currently) ONLY allow pairing with JOYING-brand Bluetooth products (i.e. steering wheel controller, TPMS, or the OBDII device) and devices categorized as phones.
I think this is a bummer because, well, I feel like one of the biggest reasons to buy an android head unit over other devices is because of the open-source, "do what you want" liberty that isn't given by its competition. This also stinks because it means that a device like an Amazon Echo Auto cannot be used at all -- this device would allow hands-free navigation or music, etc., but it requires a Bluetooth or AUX connection, both of which Joying does not seem to afford for the snapdragon products
I am still going to wait to see how/if the Snapdragon product line is improved as was rumored. I'm also curious to see how Apple's announcement of iOS 16's new and improved Apple CarPlay will change on these devices.
I don't want to discount Joying as a consideration when selecting a head unit -- as of now, I think they are the only brand to offer an 8" all-screen option. I think I still want to go with an android head unit, but I may find myself switching to a different brand or even non-android based unit.
I think @surfer63 wrote about fyt units needing to install obdII before any other Bluetooth devices like cell phones. He has really taken the time to post great info about these units, it just takes a little time and more knowledge than I have to sift through the info and determine if it applies to your unit. I have the hengcheng pro S9.
Chris Laymon said:
Thanks everyone for chiming in! I know this is a very dated thread by this point, but I felt like I had a few things worth mentioning in case anyone comes looking for it.
Per Joying's customer service, the snapdragon product line (currently) ONLY allow pairing with JOYING-brand Bluetooth products (i.e. steering wheel controller, TPMS, or the OBDII device) and devices categorized as phones.
I think this is a bummer because, well, I feel like one of the biggest reasons to buy an android head unit over other devices is because of the open-source, "do what you want" liberty that isn't given by its competition. This also stinks because it means that a device like an Amazon Echo Auto cannot be used at all -- this device would allow hands-free navigation or music, etc., but it requires a Bluetooth or AUX connection, both of which Joying does not seem to afford for the snapdragon products
I am still going to wait to see how/if the Snapdragon product line is improved as was rumored. I'm also curious to see how Apple's announcement of iOS 16's new and improved Apple CarPlay will change on these devices.
I don't want to discount Joying as a consideration when selecting a head unit -- as of now, I think they are the only brand to offer an 8" all-screen option. I think I still want to go with an android head unit, but I may find myself switching to a different brand or even non-android based unit.
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You still don't appear to understand that there is no "joying" headunit. Your comments apply to a factory type sold by a seller called JOYING.
Without posting the details of the unit from Android system information including the MCU, the comments lack context which may mislead others.