Wi-Fi always on even if off? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have noticed that even though I keep my Wi-Fi off 80% of the time, when I look at the built in "battery app" (whatever you wanna call it) it shows a blue bar all the way across for WiFi, which I believe means it's always on.
Also, sometimes WiFi usage will show up on the list of things eating the battery, and it will show that it's on the entire duration the phone has been turned on ,even though it shows off in settings.
Anyone else have this issue?

cc16177 said:
I have noticed that even though I keep my Wi-Fi off 80% of the time, when I look at the built in "battery app" (whatever you wanna call it) it shows a blue bar all the way across for WiFi, which I believe means it's always on.
Also, sometimes WiFi usage will show up on the list of things eating the battery, and it will show that it's on the entire duration the phone has been turned on ,even though it shows off in settings.
Anyone else have this issue?
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As posted in the thread now below this, check this out as It could be, Settings>wifi> menu Advanced and turn off scanning always available.

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ICS Wifi stays on while on sleep

Hi guy, my wifi won't turn off when my Xoom is on sleep. I have set the settings of 'keep wifi on during sleep' both to 'NEVER' and 'ONLY WHEN PLUGGED' but nothing happens. Wifi stays on and keeps draining my battery life. I am running rooted with the latest version of nightly 62 and I've been having this issue since 55. I have reinstalled, flashed, factory reset, wiped my Xoom.
Is anyone else having this issue? What should I do?
From my experience, wifi stays on for a little while longer after device sleeps. However, some apps in background may trigger wifi back on again. So I turn off wifi when i go to bed. Actually i notice wifi itself will not drain much battery, 1-2% for 10hr. It's the host apps sucking the juice.
I am not an expert though.
OK i've also checked it out and as you said wifi turns off after some time. My main problem now is that my battery life won't last more than 3-4 hours on wifi.
I have posted my battery stats with use of web browsing and watching pictures on gallery...
jimgeroul said:
My main problem now is that my battery life won't last more than 3-4 hours on wifi.
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What do you mean "no more than 3-4 hours"? In your battery chart, you can get more than that even starting from 75% battery.
What I wanted to say is that I think my battery won't last more than 4 hours with wifi on and some serious usage.. from my stats as I can see I've been using it 5 hours but I only had screen on and browsing the web. I think there will be a huge difference if I am watching a movie or playing a game.. I don't have the time to check it now but I will post my results in some days..
According to my previous battery graph do you see any problem or something less from what your Xoom battery holds? Does this battery drain seems normal to you?
jimgeroul said:
Hi guy, my wifi won't turn off when my Xoom is on sleep. I have set the settings of 'keep wifi on during sleep' both to 'NEVER' and 'ONLY WHEN PLUGGED' but nothing happens. Wifi stays on and keeps draining my battery life. I am running rooted with the latest version of nightly 62 and I've been having this issue since 55. I have reinstalled, flashed, factory reset, wiped my Xoom.
Is anyone else having this issue? What should I do?
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I think you'll find it will stay on for about 15 minutes. There is some setting in a system database (using a sqlite editor) that can be changed to bring this down. I doubt Wifi is what's draining your battery. Are you synching email via activesync or running other stuff in the background?
I am only using my yahoo mail from the EMail app. I don't know if it uses activesync. I have set it to check emails every 30minutes.
wifi not turning off
Edit: I found the wifi sleep option in ICS. Google sure did a great job of hiding it. See attached picture for anyone else having wifi staying on during sleep issues.
So there are three options
Keep WiFi on during sleep
1) Always
2) Only when plugged in
3) Never
What option to set if i want Wifi to turn of after some time of when phone sleeps. Previously i had set the option to 15 minutes but that option is not available in ICS and i m having a hard time understanding how these options work on my sensation.
Can anyone explain what each of these options do ?
lazers378 said:
So there are three options
Keep WiFi on during sleep
1) Always
2) Only when plugged in
3) Never
What option to set if i want Wifi to turn of after some time of when phone sleeps. Previously i had set the option to 15 minutes but that option is not available in ICS and i m having a hard time understanding how these options work on my sensation.
Can anyone explain what each of these options do ?
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My guess:
1) Always: WIFI always on no matter awake or asleep
2) Only when plugged in: WIFI always on only when plugged to power
3) Never: WIFI will be off if asleep (my current setting)
That was it
invidious07 said:
Edit: I found the wifi sleep option in ICS. Google sure did a great job of hiding it. See attached picture for anyone else having wifi staying on during sleep issues.
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Thanks, I had not seen the option to turn wifi off during sleep.
--Doug
Bear in mind that (irritatingly) applications can seemingly change this setting.
cspiby said:
Bear in mind that (irritatingly) applications can seemingly change this setting.
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For an app to change wifi sleep policy, it needs the WRITE_SETTINGS permission.

WiFi drain when not on WiFi?

Left phone on over night without charging, 7 hours drained 5 percent but I made sure WiFi was off. Wake up to see WiFi drained the most battery.
Stock n rooted, cleared all recent apps
Hi there, try this: Go to settings, tap Wi-Fi, tap menu overflow button, go to advanced, then see if Scanning always available is checked. If so uncheck. I keep everything here off except Wi-Fi optimization.
Digital_Cameltoe said:
Hi there, try this: Go to settings, tap Wi-Fi, tap menu overflow button, go to advanced, then see if Scanning always available is checked. If so uncheck. I keep everything here off except Wi-Fi optimization.
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Yeah it was on. What a dumb thing to have on default
Sneaky Google.
i think that having this checked actually saves battery in some cases. You can see for yourself you only drained 5% in 8hrs which is pretty darn good. Isn't anything near 1% an hour while idling considered good? My guess is that it is being used for you google now and some other apps. For example, since google now periodically updates based on location using wifi is much more battery efficient than GPS. Same goes for other apps that might update in the background that need location services.

What the F is keeping my phone awake?

Can someone please help me figure out what's keeping my phone awake. As you can see my screen is only on very little but my phone is turning on quite a bit. This happens a lot unless I'm connected to wifibfor an extended amount of time.
krolla03 said:
Can someone please help me figure out what's keeping my phone awake. As you can see my screen is only on very little but my phone is turning on quite a bit. This happens a lot unless I'm connected to wifibfor an extended amount of time.
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Probably Google Now and hotword detection. Also do you have WiFi "Scanning always available" on?
I have a related problem and didnt want to open another post. Not sure, maybe its better to do that? Dont want to steal topic.
Also, im sorry but i cannot provide battery tesing app results since im not allowed to root it...and as far as i know root is need to detect wakelocks on kitkat.
But i can provide an error report. Maybe that helps the pros. This happens on a fresh Nexus 5, without any apps besides the preinstalled gApps.
But not constantly, it didnt happen the last 2 days before. Every time it happens it is after a longer period of use. For example if i dont use it a lot and manage to come 2 days with the battery cycle and then charge the mobile, it happens after charging. But it never happened yet when i use device a lot and charge it more frequently. But that can be a coincidence too, dont let you irritate by that now. 4.4.4 Android. But sure is that both times, the only 2 times, it happened right after pull out the charger.
This is pic and error report:
Occurence 1
Occurence 2
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw2HIVhZzrqQdnZ6UG4xYkxUY0E/edit?usp=sharing
Bugreport
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw2HIVhZzrqQR1lId1lwNy0xOVk/edit?usp=sharing
Should i turn off the "keep WiFi on during sleep"
krolla03 said:
Should i turn off the "keep WiFi on during sleep"
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Depends on what you want to use when screen is off. It just means that wifi is alwayys on. If not, if your phone goes into standby mode the 3G connection takes over. If you have no special data rate you can let wifi on. Your active time is pretty normal for a phone. If auto-sync is on and google now and all that, maybe facebook or whatsapp or even more. Newsapps that push all that does this.
What i would more worry about is your signal. Its very low and probably uses alot of battery. If i recheck your pic i would probably really better let Wifi on if your at home at least, so your 3G connection doesnt always have to work so much. Of course all this is only if you want to have internet...if you know you wont use it anyway, turn it off.
Until its not like me screen above i would not worry too much.
I have google now turned off it was doing way to many wakelocks. I do have hotword on but if I'm correct it only listens when the screen is on. I'm having an issue when the screen is off the phone still keep a waking up.
by the looks of it, its your apps and setup most likely. but its fairly normal, not that many wakeups/wakelocks as many others have. wakelocks are how our phones work, generally they are normal and expected. system apps/processes and user apps create them. only when the process thats associated with the wakeocks get stuck or run amuck, is when they are bad. and yours arent stuck, nor amuck.
simms22 said:
by the looks of it, its your apps and setup most likely. but its fairly normal, not that many wakeups/wakelocks as many others have. wakelocks are how our phones work, generally they are normal and expected. system apps/processes and user apps create them. only when the process thats associated with the wakeocks get stuck or run amuck, is when they are bad. and yours arent stuck, nor amuck.
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Yeah I don't have many wakelocls but my phone is still awake 20% and the battery menu shows that the phone is waking up quite abit
krolla03 said:
Can someone please help me figure out what's keeping my phone awake. As you can see my screen is only on very little but my phone is turning on quite a bit. This happens a lot unless I'm connected to wifibfor an extended amount of time.
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Low signal data, Google Now location based cards and Battery Saver or High accuracy mode. This combination gives me the same awake lines as seen here.
Technically having the WiFi on (or "always scanning") should help so it's not solely reliant on the weak data signal, but it doesn't seem to.
bblzd said:
Low signal data, Google Now location based cards and Battery Saver or High accuracy mode. This combination gives me the same awake lines as seen here.
Technically having the WiFi on (or "always scanning") should help so it's not solely reliant on the weak data signal, but it doesn't seem to.
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I have google now turned off
krolla03 said:
Yeah I don't have many wakelocls but my phone is still awake 20% and the battery menu shows that the phone is waking up quite abit
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being awake 20% of the time is not much. if you have apps that get notifications, check locations, or are just designed to occasionally check stuff, those are the one thatll cause most the wakelocks.
krolla03 said:
I have google now turned off
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Guess it's just the WiFi locations in general. When on WiFi it'll rarely wake the phone only data. Google Search then shows more wake time so I figured it'd be Gnow.
krolla03 said:
I have google now turned off
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See a comparison I did here, both with Battery Saver mode on. When using data the phone wakes constantly in its attempt to resolve location based information. In theory, having the WiFi chip enabled should help but it doesn't seem to do much.

Cyanogenmod bugs

Can someone please explain to me whats meant by cdma bug? And also what wifi mac adress is? I mean how will these affect the device.. Not looking for technical info simple and short
Thank you
The CDMA thing is just if your mobile network uses CDMA, and that's just an issue where you have to set preferred network type on first boot.
The MAC address is the address that your device uses on a wifi network (a bit like an IP address). The issue is that it's randomised every time you reboot, so some router things like QOS and whitelisting won't work, but for normal use it doesn't really matter.
Hope this helps ☺
SniperShotgun said:
The CDMA thing is just if your mobile network uses CDMA, and that's just an issue where you have to set preferred network type on first boot.
The MAC address is the address that your device uses on a wifi network (a bit like an IP address). The issue is that it's randomised every time you reboot, so some router things like QOS and whitelisting won't work, but for normal use it doesn't really matter.
Hope this helps
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THANK YOU I will give CM A try then I thought the CDMA meant no signal lol and the MAC address thing meant no wifi or would limit both the capabilities
b3ava said:
THANK YOU I will give CM A try then I thought the CDMA meant no signal lol and the MAC address thing meant no wifi or would limit both the capabilities
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Well if you don't set the thing at first boot it is no signal, so remember
I have another thing to report:
The headphones are set to VERY high volume. Even if i turn the volume to the minimum during a call, it is still too loud.
I often have awake and screen on, but i dont actually have screen turned on. How can i see which process is doing this or fix it?
AgiZ10 said:
I have another thing to report:
The headphones are set to VERY high volume. Even if i turn the volume to the minimum during a call, it is still too loud.
I often have awake and screen on, but i dont actually have screen turned on. How can i see which process is doing this or fix it?
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Does the "double tap to wake" set to on ?
it maybe because of that
tomhtg90 said:
Does the "double tap to wake" set to on ?
it maybe because of that
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It is, yes. But i was most active on phone that day from 8-16, and in that time you can see that awake and screen-on just kept increasing and didnt "shut off" at all later that day even though not much was going on with the phone. If i remember i even restarted the phone (that sliver missing on the graph).
Right now i have this kind of usage, the way it is supposed to be (ok, not sure whats wrong with the signal, but lets leave that alone for now)
Could it be some app not letting the phone go to sleep or what?
AgiZ10 said:
It is, yes. But i was most active on phone that day from 8-16, and in that time you can see that awake and screen-on just kept increasing and didnt "shut off" at all later that day even though not much was going on with the phone. If i remember i even restarted the phone (that sliver missing on the graph).
Right now i have this kind of usage, the way it is supposed to be (ok, not sure whats wrong with the signal, but lets leave that alone for now)
Could it be some app not letting the phone go to sleep or what?
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I dont know what happen. But what i saw from your 1st SS, the screen doesn't go to sleep.
U can see what apps that use much battery by simply go back from History details.
On my Battery use stat, Screen always be gonna be the biggest usage (and that's normal). If l lock the phone, the phone does go to sleep (means screen is off and not using the battery until i turn it back on).
On Cyanogen dev thread for our device, some people have bad battery life when double tap to wake is on (me too).
Maybe it's not well implemented yet. So that's why i rather choose not to use that feature for a while until it well implemented.
Ok, thanks for your thoughts. I didnt chech which app used the most power, but perhaps it was Exchange not being able to sign in. I will monitor the behavior (during weekend it should be a lot longer battery life).
Yeah, i think dt2w is not optimised. As long as i have full day of battery it should be enough and for now that is the case.
The volume bug is annoying though.
is it only me that has an issue with Notifications on this phone? It seems that when I am on wifi my internet stops or something.. is there a setting or something I have missed?
No, a lot of users are reporting this bug. I suggest you try the app "Heartbeat fixer for GSM" or "PNF Root" which could fix this. I install one or the other as soon as I get a new phone, and I don't have issues with push notifications that I've noticed so far, but I haven't tested the Mi4C on WiFi yet.
b3ava said:
is it only me that has an issue with Notifications on this phone? It seems that when I am on wifi my internet stops or something.. is there a setting or something I have missed?
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xdadevet said:
No, a lot of users are reporting this bug. I suggest you try the app "Heartbeat fixer for GSM" or "PNF Root" which could fix this. I install one or the other as soon as I get a new phone, and I don't have issues with push notifications that I've noticed so far, but I haven't tested the Mi4C on WiFi yet.
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Did you try from scratch?
I put on TWRP, deleted EVERYTHING (system, data, cache...) then put on CM and gapps (opengapps - ARM64 - pico) in one go and for me it works like it should.
About my awake problem: I have left the phone more or less alone during the weekend and it seems it works like expected. I will observe if i find any more strange behaviour like i did a few days ago.
Seems that it sometimes works and sometimes it doesn't the two apps that are mentioned above don't seem to be making a difference.. The funny thing is when I am not connected to WIFI the phone seems to be running fine (notification wise). But when the screen is off and I am on wifi the device seems to be going into some sort of deep sleep most of the times. I think after 2-3 days it hasn't been as bad, but I do get 1 or 2 random hangout notifications not appearing at all..

After new AT&T update, location randomly turns on...

After the latest update I've noticed that when only using my phone, location just turns on by itself. With the notification at the top you can see how it's grayed out but once it goes away, it turns on. Basically... This is annoying, I don't want my battery going down the drain and I don't know what is causing this.
dude52 said:
After the latest update I've noticed that when only using my phone, location just turns on by itself. With the notification at the top you can see how it's grayed out but once it goes away, it turns on. Basically... This is annoying, I don't want my battery going down the drain and I don't know what is causing this.
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I had this happen before the update though...
It only seemed (and still does after the update) to happen when you had location set to High Accuracy.
They are watching you! ?
dude52 said:
After the latest update I've noticed that when only using my phone, location just turns on by itself. With the notification at the top you can see how it's grayed out but once it goes away, it turns on. Basically... This is annoying, I don't want my battery going down the drain and I don't know what is causing this.
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Turn off wifi calling. I believe it is verifying that you are calling from your known E911 address that you had setup. Mine turned on today (without the update) when I activated wifi calling.

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