[Q] Volume control of external bluetooth speaker - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
playing around with my new Nexus 5 I recognized a problem to control the volume of my external bluetooth loudspeaker.
First, the speaker connected normally as it used to with my GNex (JB 4.3). But with the Nexus 5 the volume seems to stay at maximum only. Pushing the volume buttons +/- of the phone shows up the volume control and I can see the volume going up and down. However, the speaker stays at max. volume independant of the volume setting.
Can somebody else please check this?
I updated my Nexus 7 to KitKat also. And... the same issue here. Perhaps my speaker has a problem?
Thanks
By the way... the speaker is a Philips SBT50

It's not the speaker... with the GNex everything works fine :-/

lapas said:
It's not the speaker... with the GNex everything works fine :-/
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I have the same issue using a Jabra Play. I'm able to pull the volumne sliders to the min and it will stay there, however one click up, and it goes to max.
BeerGang .4 and Franco r14 but I think it did it on stock also...

google has some work that needs to be done with BT and KitKat.
i thankfully dont have this issue with my little BT speaker, but i have serious High Volume issues with my LG Tone+ BT headset....it is definingly loud at the lowes volume.

I use Bluetooth in my car and with the LG Tones (700) and I've tested it with the 730 tone+ and no issues. Bluetooth headset and I don't have this problem.

With my jbl speaker i habe the same Problem with my n5. Not possible to adjust volume via Bluetooth. When connected to LG sound bar volume control works well
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This is not a Nexus 5 issue. It is Kit Kat issue on all devices that use the default Google Bluedroid Bluetooth stack, meaning Nexus devices and Google Play versions (other devices running a modified stack may not be affected).
Supposedly, it is an extension to Bluetooth AVRCP 1.3 that enables Bluetooth audio devices to directly control Android's system volume. It seems some genius thought two independent volume levels (headphone volume and handset bluetooth level) was too confusing for folks. Clearly they did not think about (or test) that some Bluetooth audio devices with their own volume controls might default to a very high or low level, and control of only the handset's bluetooth level would not provide sufficient range of adjustment.
So once again we have Goofle googing up bluetooth in Android. Please share your disappointment in the following threads so that we might see a fix ASAP. Guessing they are facing law suits for hearing damage if it is not addressed quickly.
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/X6Hwt2qMYDo/7qd-JGylQv0J
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/dsf7hQPesds/zWhIE27o2KwJ
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/uXzs0e3l7rI
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/b5h94ggUIac/qkBs9WUIh4oJ

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[Q] Bluetooth Audio Issues

So I ordered the GoGroove Bluegate Bluetooth Receiver from Amazon the other day and my package was delivered today! Woohoo!
I got everything set up in my room and was very impressed. I'm no audiophile, but I noticed no difference in quality between the Headphone jack and BT audio.
So out to my truck I went, got it all wired up the way I like, and started playing some tunes.
On Batakang 1.00 and using DoubleTwist, the volume was WAY TOO LOUD. It was also pretty distorted. So I made sure the stereo, BT volume, and media volume were all at the lowest settings to no avail. Still incredibly loud.
Is this phone just loud as hell? I know the external speaker is louder than most other phones. Is it software or hardware? Is there any way I can force the volume down? (Side note, I miss the expandable volume controls after pressing the rocker in CM9/CM10)
Any help is appreciated!
Use Audio Concert Pro from the play store and it should give you everything you need.
Cheers
Burgo
Ban-Hammer said:
So I ordered the GoGroove Bluegate Bluetooth Receiver from Amazon the other day and my package was delivered today! Woohoo!
I got everything set up in my room and was very impressed. I'm no audiophile, but I noticed no difference in quality between the Headphone jack and BT audio.
So out to my truck I went, got it all wired up the way I like, and started playing some tunes.
On Batakang 1.00 and using DoubleTwist, the volume was WAY TOO LOUD. It was also pretty distorted. So I made sure the stereo, BT volume, and media volume were all at the lowest settings to no avail. Still incredibly loud.
Is this phone just loud as hell? I know the external speaker is louder than most other phones. Is it software or hardware? Is there any way I can force the volume down? (Side note, I miss the expandable volume controls after pressing the rocker in CM9/CM10)
Any help is appreciated!
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It sounds like something in your setup is causing it to bypass the volume settings and just play at max volume. I use my phone all the time for bluetooth audio on 2 blackberry bluetooth gateways (home stereo and office stereo) and a sony bluetooth audio car stereo and I am able to control the volume just fine from both the phone and the stereos.
marky2mark said:
It sounds like something in your setup is causing it to bypass the volume settings and just play at max volume. I use my phone all the time for bluetooth audio on 2 blackberry bluetooth gateways (home stereo and office stereo) and a sony bluetooth audio car stereo and I am able to control the volume just fine from both the phone and the stereos.
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I think I figured it out. I installed "music volume EQ" from Play and I adjusted all bands to -15 db. This surprisingly made all volumes much more acceptable. I noticed media volume over 8 used to sound the same, like it was maxed out, but it seems much more granular now, and lower volumes are more "normal".
I suggest this fix for anyone who is unhappy with any volumes.
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I know this topic is way old, but I know what the problem is. I unlocked and flashed cm10.1, and while the bluetooth takes a few seconds to lock on, it now is at a reasonable volume, the BT volume slider changes volume, and it never jumps to 100% after connection. The Motorola BT drivers must be wonky. Anyway, that's it! Moto screwed up.
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Any LG Tone+ bluetooth users here? question

So i have been using my Tone+'s for a while now and love them.
as soon as i upgraded my G-nex to 4.4 i had rediculously loud volume over BT. thought it was just a big in the build.
get my N5 yesterday, and i am having the same issues. i know the headset controls the volume now, but at its lowest setting, it is still pretty loud (louder than i would like)
am i the only one that has this problem? just curious
i have tried wired headphones and they are normal, i also tried a Jabra clipper BT headphone set and it was also normal.
how do 2 LG products not play perfectly together is beyond me.
Having the same issue here. For now, I'm using an equalizer and just lowering all the frequency bands to -13dB. Hopefully this gets fixed soon...
Same issues here. It's very frustrating as I also bought a wireless charging bad so I could be completely wireless at work.
It is Kit Kat issue on all devices that use the default Google Bluedroid Bluetooth stack, meaning Nexus devices and Google Play versions (other devices running a modified stack may not be affected).
Supposedly, it is an extension to Bluetooth AVRCP 1.3 that enables Bluetooth audio devices to directly control Android's system volume. It seems some genius thought two independent volume levels (headphone volume and handset bluetooth level) was too confusing for folks. Clearly they did not think about (or test) that some Bluetooth audio devices with their own volume controls might default to a very high or low level, and control of only the handset's bluetooth level would not provide sufficient range of adjustment.
So once again we have Goofle googing up bluetooth in Android. Please share your disappointment in the following threads so that we might see a fix ASAP. Guessing they are facing law suits for hearing damage if it is not addressed quickly.
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/X6Hwt2qMYDo/7qd-JGylQv0J
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/dsf7hQPesds/zWhIE27o2KwJ
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/uXzs0e3l7rI
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/b5h94ggUIac/qkBs9WUIh4oJ
I own the Tone (700) and tone+ and only the Tone+ have this issue. No issue when connected Bluetooth to my car to listen to music too
Jeimygirl said:
I own the Tone (700) and tone+ and only the Tone+ have this issue. No issue when connected Bluetooth to my car to listen to music too
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Does your older tone and car support a avrcp 1.3?
In my car, it's just the opposite. I now have to turn the level on the phone to max to hear anything. Before 4.4 I could leave it halfway.
I have used tone+ on my s4 and n5. Both are often too loud. I have always had to adjust the headset volume, handset volume and then the equalizer in poweramp to get things just right. I love them for music but if I get a call it is always way too loud.
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Solutions Etcetera said:
Does your older tone and car support a avrcp 1.3?
In my car, it's just the opposite. I now have to turn the level on the phone to max to hear anything. Before 4.4 I could leave it halfway.
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I am unsure what what is to be honest. But if it has to do with showing the songs/artist etc on the screen, then yes it does that. Does it with my S2, N5 and will do it with an iPhone (work). Car is a Honda 2012
The issue with the Tone + is that it powers up at medium volume level, and when connected to an audio source, Android 4.4 now maps the volume control on the Tone to system volume.
As a work around I have found that, after powering up the Tone +, if you press the front most volume rocker repeatedly until you hear the low pitch tone you can lower the volume. Then when you connect to your audio source it is not so loud.
I hope Google fixes this soon, but I have low expectations based on other Bluetooth issues of the past.
Have you tried changing the sound type on the Tone+? (Holding down both volume buttons at the same time) I know if I have it on normal, high base or high treble they all have different volumes. This may help.
I mainly listen to podcasts, so I always set the EQ profile to the 3rd one (treble up).
It looks like 4.4.1 update fixed the battle between headset volume and handset volume. I'm a happy LG owner!

Nav Volume - Any boost options?

I tried Nav on my Nexus 5 tonite.
I found the volume to be a bit faint in the car, @ full max settings.
I recall years ago on an old Samsung device this was an issue for me. There was a workaround/tweak that permitted a volume boost.
Anyone have a similar observation? Any pointers to boost the volume?
markp99 said:
I tried Nav on my Nexus 5 tonite.
I found the volume to be a bit faint in the car, @ full max settings.
I recall years ago on an old Samsung device this was an issue for me. There was a workaround/tweak that permitted a volume boost.
Anyone have a similar observation? Any pointers to boost the volume?
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are you bluetooth or aux?
my ford touch works pretty good w/ the phone w/ bluetooth. Has good sound and high volume. However the aux output to headphones / car stereo is terrible. soooooo low volume.
Just phone external speaker. No connection to car radio.
I tried via BT, that was fine, but my Jeep uConnect is flaky with BT Nav messages, treating them as individual phone calls. Example: "Turn left. Phone call complete." "Turn right. Phone call complete." Not great.
So, I prefer to use JUST the phone's speaker.

[Q] Any way to prevent Bluetooth devices from directly controlling volume?

This is a somewhat unusual question considering many were looking forward to this change being introduced in KitKat. Here's my situation:
I have a pair of Bluetooth headphones (specifically MEElectronics Matrix) that has a volume control with something like 16 different steps. On my Nexus 7 (2012, 4.4.2) and LG L9 (4.1.2) I usually have the media volume of my device on full, and have the headphones volume set between 2 and 4. This is a nice quiet volume.
When I'm connected to my Moto G (4.4.2), the volume control on the headphones is linked to the media volume of my device (they aren't seperate levels anymore). The problem with this is that now the quietest I can listen to my music (with the volume set to the first stepping on my phone) is slightly too loud for a quiet environment.
If anyone knows of an app, mod, or other solution that will allow me to seperate the volume setting between my device and my Bluetooth headphones, I would really appreciate it.

[MM roms] Big problems with bluetooth headset (LG HBS-730) low quality

Hello,
i have one big issue that prevents me from fully enjoing marshmellow roms ,the bluetooth audio.
I have a bluetooth headset from lg hbs-730 an they work just fine with every android (this year i changed like 15 handset) and NEVER had any problem,they just works.
BUT they dont work on a oneplus with mm rom and i can't understand why.
the headset connect via bluetooth with no issue and audio comes out fine at first,but when you get heavy bass or just a lot of instruments in the song the audio lose quality and noise ramp up.
do you know why?it is fixable?
the only hint i have its that the audio control on kk,lp roms are different ,so when i push the up and down volume buttons on the phone the bluetooth audio of the phone is managed,but when i press the volume buttons on the headset it manages its OWN volume.
This doesnt happen in MM roms,when you push the volume button of the headset ord the phone its the same volume bar which is managed.
Help Me, XDAi. You're My Only Hope
Stappern said:
Hello,
i have one big issue that prevents me from fully enjoing marshmellow roms ,the bluetooth audio.
I have a bluetooth headset from lg hbs-730 an they work just fine with every android (this year i changed like 15 handset) and NEVER had any problem,they just works.
BUT they dont work on a oneplus with mm rom and i can't understand why.
the headset connect via bluetooth with no issue and audio comes out fine at first,but when you get heavy bass or just a lot of instruments in the song the audio lose quality and noise ramp up.
do you know why?it is fixable?
the only hint i have its that the audio control on kk,lp roms are different ,so when i push the up and down volume buttons on the phone the bluetooth audio of the phone is managed,but when i press the volume buttons on the headset it manages its OWN volume.
This doesnt happen in MM roms,when you push the volume button of the headset ord the phone its the same volume bar which is managed.
Help Me, XDAi. You're My Only Hope
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I had noise with bluetooth car unit
I mute mic with tasker and i raise bluetooth voice to 80%
noise gone
Audio fx control quality
Try without max volume
geowolf1000 said:
I had noise with bluetooth car unit
I mute mic with tasker and i raise bluetooth voice to 80%
noise gone
Audio fx control quality
Try without max volume
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would you mind share the tasker profile so i can give it a go?
i never use max volume btw
Create a profile with bluetooth conecrion
Select the device
And search mic mute
Turn. On
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