In latest Nexus 5, We could say " OK GOOGLE" to search in google now. Is it possible to take this function to next level by integrating Moto X voice control- Since Nexus 5 hardware has a always listening chip, will it be easy for devs to poet this feature.
Some Members of XDA keeping posting that, Snapdragon 800 also has Always listening core like Moto X, is it true ?
Is any dev interested or trying to port this awesome feature to snapdragon 800 processor
Thank You.
It's been rumoured that the low power component of the S800 is used for the pedometer (step counter). Perhaps a future custom ROM/Kernel will allow switching between the two modes? Only time will tell.
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as example i take 2 device (but the question are general)
Nexus one: snapdragon S1 QSD8250 at 1GHz with Adreno 200
Galaxy mini 2: snapdragon S1 MSM7227A at 800 MHz with Adreno 200
im noob but i cant see big difference between these 2 devices, just one
Nexus is hold at gingerbread
Galaxy mini 2 is planned to JB (and there is already a custom rom that works very good)
THE QUESTION ARE SIMPLE:
is there a techical reason which prevents the nexus one running JB or is it just marketing?
thanks to anyone who wants to give me a technical explanation
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I think just marketing because the company want to earn money with new phone so if they say that they will be upgrade a "new phone" peaple would like to buy them. If they say about a old phone it won't be the same.
any tecnical answer ?
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Don't think there's any technical reason. Devs have come up with CM10 roms for nexus one, so probably manufacturers can provide jb on such phones if they really wish to.
You guys already know motorola moto x has 2 additional low power companion core- 1 for 'always standby voice recognition' and 1 for 'contextual responding'. it is a 6 core system but with these 2 extra cores it has become 8core smartphone.
I somehow managed to know that some other android devices have companion cores- both the htc one x and lg optimus 4x hd has one additional core each.
So my question is what do their companion cores do? Can these companion cores be 'hacked' to do jobs as we want them to? (for me i want them to do 'always standby voice recognition' like the moto x)
bump. guys please help if possible
As far i know they arent traditional cores, they are voice specified and hardware bounded for that, but u can invest more in the hw design and how sw access it
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It looks like bunch of devices are getting cm 11 now in nightlies, I figure porting one of them to our devices will only be a matter of time.Official CyanogenMod site http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?type=nightly and xda news link http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-many-devices-4-4-1-based-builds-by-tomorrow/
new Aosp code commits
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/browse-every-new-aosp-code-commit-in-android-4-4-1/
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It looks like bunch of devices are getting cm 11 now in nightlies, I figure porting one of them to our devices will only be a matter of time.Official CyanogenMod site http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?type=nightly and xda news link http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-many-devices-4-4-1-based-builds-by-tomorrow/
new Aosp code commits
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/browse-every-new-aosp-code-commit-in-android-4-4-1/
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TeamCanjica is on it... Just wait.
Samsung Galaxy S get official cm11.Why not us too?
Because our device is not popular.
Nice
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Samsung Galaxy S get official cm11.Why not us too?
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You are long enough on this forum to know that I9000 has LOT more users and devs then our phone.
so when I read titles and delivery and stumble upon things like .... I feel like I would have thrown in an empty pool haha
pray: janice team is working on this. only there to wait
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You are long enough on this forum to know that I9000 has LOT more users and devs then our phone.
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I didnt knew that I9000 has more developers,also i didnt knew that our phone is not so popular,my mistake
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I didnt knew that I9000 has more developers,also i didnt knew that is our phone is not so popular,my mistake
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For comparison, we have about 110 threads in both developer sections. And I9000 has 1,832 threads in developer section.
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For comparison, we have about 110 threads in both developer sections. And I9000 has 1,832 threads in developer section.
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I hope more developers come here to develop and help our device.Team Canjica is best team in this forum which help our phone.
Off topic: Phone is made for chat:calls and messages and some games.But producters release phones with display over 5",with quadcore processors or octa core.Phone are gonna to have processor with over 8 cores and nvidia geforce at video and we will play gta 5 lol. Is called PHONE not COMPUTER. Smartphone should have a processor with 1.8 GHz max and Mali400, Mali 400MP or Adreno 305 maxim at graphic and display between 4" and 5" maxim. A smartphone should be SMART.Having big display,processors not make a phone smart. Producers must stop making smartphones with big displays and processors because make nonsense (also making phone with flexible or curved display make nonsense). Features like answer calls by saying "Answer" or by waving hand etc. ,these make a phone smart. I always was thinking to buy new smartphones (which are also popular) which have big display and big processors,make nonsense.I was thinking to buy nexus 4,but for what? Just a more big display and processor? I will be able just to play more new games without lag,but computer is for games not phone.In this moment,Tasked app can make a smartphone really smart.Thanks to the guy which made this awesome app.
So,I never sell my Galaxy S Advance for other phones until he die And maybe after he die I buy another galaxy s advance I love my phone and I'm satisfied with it.You made me to say my opinion about smartphones
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For comparison, we have about 110 threads in both developer sections. And I9000 has 1,832 threads in developer section.
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I hope more developers come here to develop and help our device.Team Canjica is best team in this forum which help our phone.
Off topic: Phone is made for chat:calls and messages and some games.But producters release phones with display over 5",with quadcore processors or octa core.Phone are gonna to have processor with over 8 cores and nvidia geforce at video and we will play gta 5 lol. Is called PHONE not COMPUTER. Smartphone should have a processor with 1.8 GHz max and Mali400, Mali 400MP or Adreno 305 maxim at graphic and display between 4" and 5" maxim. A smartphone should be SMART.Having big display,processors not make a phone smart. Producers must stop making smartphones with big displays and processors because make nonsense (also making phone with flexible or curved display make nonsense). Features like answer calls by saying "Answer" or by waving hand etc. ,these make a phone smart. I always was thinking to buy new smartphones (which are also popular) which have big display and big processors,make nonsense.I was thinking to buy nexus 4,but for what? Just a more big display and processor? I will be able just to play more new games without lag,but computer is for games not phone.In this moment,Tasked app can make a smartphone really smart.Thanks to the guy which made this awesome app.
So,I never sell my Galaxy S Advance for other phones until he die And maybe after he die I buy another galaxy s advance I love my phone and I'm satisfied with it.You made me to say my opinion about smartphones [/QUOTE]
Good words man, i think that a 5" display is reallyannoying to use because u can't bring with you freely cuz he's really too big! The new 8core are really useless, some galaxy s4 are getting some lags in touchwiz, our telephone not!
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I hope more developers come here to develop and help our device.Team Canjica is best team in this forum which help our phone.
Off topic: Phone is made for chat:calls and messages and some games.But producters release phones with display over 5",with quadcore processors or octa core.Phone are gonna to have processor with over 8 cores and nvidia geforce at video and we will play gta 5 lol. Is called PHONE not COMPUTER. Smartphone should have a processor with 1.8 GHz max and Mali400, Mali 400MP or Adreno 305 maxim at graphic and display between 4" and 5" maxim. A smartphone should be SMART.Having big display,processors not make a phone smart. Producers must stop making smartphones with big displays and processors because make nonsense (also making phone with flexible or curved display make nonsense). Features like answer calls by saying "Answer" or by waving hand etc. ,these make a phone smart. I always was thinking to buy new smartphones (which are also popular) which have big display and big processors,make nonsense.I was thinking to buy nexus 4,but for what? Just a more big display and processor? I will be able just to play more new games without lag,but computer is for games not phone.In this moment,Tasked app can make a smartphone really smart.Thanks to the guy which made this awesome app.
So,I never sell my Galaxy S Advance for other phones until he die And maybe after he die I buy another galaxy s advance I love my phone and I'm satisfied with it.You made me to say my opinion about smartphones
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Paragraph 1: Our phone is being discontinued already, slowly but it's happening. Thankfully, Team Canjica helps us to take way more advantage of this 768Mb of RAM and 1GHz out of this comfortable 4" screen.
Paragraph 2: You're right but most of the flagships have software features that make them "smart" in a certain way. GS4 has features like Smart Stay and Air Gestures that make it way more useful than generic phones with more specs that just improve perfomance a bit more than needed without any other useful purpose, Moto X goes maybe for busy people that don't have the time to execute those time-consuming tasks that thankfully are shorten considerably depending on those features. Xperia Z1 goes for picture quality and a tad more for sound quality as the HTC One. It mostly depends of each phone. Not every phablet is useless. And about specs increase over time, it's just tech "evolving".
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Paragraph 1: Our phone is being Taskedtinued already, slowly but it's happening. Thankfully, Team Canjica helps us to take way more advantage of this 768Mb of RAM and 1GHz out of this comfortable 4" screen.
Paragraph 2: You're right but most of the flagships have software features that make them "smart" in a certain way. GS4 has features like Smart Stay and Air Gestures that make it way more useful than generic phones with more specs that just improve perfomance a bit more than needed without any other useful purpose, Moto X goes maybe for busy people that don't have the time to execute those time-consuming tasks that thankfully are shorten considerably depending on those features. Xperia Z1 goes for picture quality and a tad more for sound quality as the HTC One. It mostly depends of each phone. Not every phablet is useless. And about specs increase over time, it's just tech "evolving".
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Features like Smart Alert,Air gestures can be done with Tasker...Now I stop to talk about these because thread is about cm
With the Nexus 6 announced, I was quite disappointed, as I was expecting Google to release an updated version of Nexus 5, just like they did with Nexus 7 back in 2013. I'm not a fan of phablets, and 6 inches seems too big for a phone, while Nexus 5 sure hit that sweet spot.
So I had this idea - would it be possible to replace the old existing Snapdragon 800 with 801/805? What about the new 808/810 models? Problems that come to my mind are:
Do the newer processors have the same pin layout as the 800 version? I managed to find information that the 801 is, but I'd like to know about 805 or even 808/810.
Do different Snapdragon 8** series processors use the same instruction-set? If not, are the newer versions backwards-compatible with old versions, like for example Intel's x86?
Would the Nexus 5 chipset be able to take advantage of a faster processor? I know ROMs with custom kernels allow overclocking up to 3 GHz, although that's just stupid. With a 805/808/810 though... Would it be as simple as getting for exapmle CyanogenMod, "overclocking" the 805 to 2.7 GHz (what it's actually rated at), and that would be the end of the story? Or am I missing something?
How hard would it be physically to replace the processor? I imagine a skilled engineer with a soldering station would be able to do the job, or are the connections so small that it's practically impossible to do by hand?
How does one obtain a stand-alone Snapdragon processor? I can't seem to find any on Amazon. Do they even sell retail, like Intel/AMD? If not, how do I get hold of one?
What else am I missing? How feasable is this idea really?
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With the Nexus 6 announced, I was quite disappointed, as I was expecting Google to release an updated version of Nexus 5, just like they did with Nexus 7 back in 2013. I'm not a fan of phablets, and 6 inches seems too big for a phone, while Nexus 5 sure hit that sweet spot.
So I had this idea - would it be possible to replace the old existing Snapdragon 800 with 801/805? What about the new 808/810 models? Problems that come to my mind are:
Do the newer processors have the same pin layout as the 800 version? I managed to find information that the 801 is, but I'd like to know about 805 or even 808/810.
Do different Snapdragon 8** series processors use the same instruction-set? If not, are the newer versions backwards-compatible with old versions, like for example Intel's x86?
Would the Nexus 5 chipset be able to take advantage of a faster processor? I know ROMs with custom kernels allow overclocking up to 3 GHz, although that's just stupid. With a 805/808/810 though... Would it be as simple as getting for exapmle CyanogenMod, "overclocking" the 805 to 2.7 GHz (what it's actually rated at), and that would be the end of the story? Or am I missing something?
How hard would it be physically to replace the processor? I imagine a skilled engineer with a soldering station would be able to do the job, or are the connections so small that it's practically impossible to do by hand?
How does one obtain a stand-alone Snapdragon processor? I can't seem to find any on Amazon. Do they even sell retail, like Intel/AMD? If not, how do I get hold of one?
What else am I missing? How feasable is this idea really?
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while just swapping out the cpu is most likely possible, if not extremely difficult. getting it to run on the nexus 5 would be nearly impossible. where are you going to get the drivers to make everything work? they need to be exactly for the nexus 5 and only for the nexus 5.
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while just swapping out the cpu is most likely possible, if not extremely difficult. getting it to run on the nexus 5 would be nearly impossible. where are you going to get the drivers to make everything work? they need to be exactly for the nexus 5 and only for the nexus 5.
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Does it need any drivers though? If the processor instruction set doesn't change, I don't see why any software changes would have to be made...
Sorry if I don't understand what I'm talking about, I'm a PC developer and know close to zero about android / snapdragon. I'm just thinking of it as if it was a soldered-in PC cpu with built-in graphics.
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Does it need any drivers though? If the processor instruction set doesn't change, I don't see why any software changes would have to be made...
Sorry if I don't understand what I'm talking about, I'm a PC developer and know close to zero about android / snapdragon. I'm just thinking of it as if it was a soldered-in PC cpu with built-in graphics.
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of course itll need drivers, its a completely different piece of hardware. youll need drivers for everything.
I think it's safe to say that it will probably never, ever happen.
You can't. It's a SoC meaning the CPU is integrated and can't be replaced
Project ARA will be the first phone able to swap core components
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I did post this under Nexus 5 Q/A, but I realized this probably applies to all Android devices, not just the one I have. So sorry for dual-topic, but I feel this kind of belongs here more.
With the Nexus 6 announced, I was quite disappointed, as I was expecting Google to release an updated version of Nexus 5, just like they did with Nexus 7 back in 2013. I'm not a fan of phablets, and 6 inches seems too big for a phone, while Nexus 5 sure hit that sweet spot.
So I had this idea - would it be possible to replace the old existing Snapdragon processors with newer versions? 801? 805? What about the new 808/810 models? Problems that come to my mind are:
Do the newer processors have the same pin layout as the 800 version? I managed to find information that the 801 is, but I'd like to know about 805 or even 808/810.
Do different Snapdragon 8** series processors use the same instruction-set? If not, are the newer versions backwards-compatible with old versions, like for example Intel's x86?
Would the old chipset be able to take advantage of a faster processor? I know ROMs with custom kernels allow overclocking up to 3 GHz, although that's just stupid. With a 805/808/810 though... Would it be as simple as getting for exapmle CyanogenMod, "overclocking" the 805 to 2.7 GHz (what it's actually rated at), and that would be the end of the story? Or am I missing something?
How hard would it be physically to replace the processor? I imagine a skilled engineer with a soldering station would be able to do the job, or are the connections so small that it's practically impossible to do by hand?
How does one obtain a stand-alone Snapdragon processor? I can't seem to find any on Amazon. Do they even sell retail, like Intel/AMD? If not, how do I get hold of one?
What else am I missing? How feasable is this idea really?
Short answer. No.
Unlike the "Can I upgrade my phones memory?" question, this one is a much more definitive no.
From what I hear, the 810 will be the last 32-Bit Snapdragon SoC.
Meaning, even if you could (I highly doubt you can) your only improvement would be less than 0.5gHZ.
So not really worth the risk.