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Why no custom roms for Rogers Dream?

Can the phone really be that different from the Dev Phone for T-Mobile G1?
Seems like it would be desirable model for US 3G (AT&T). No interest in this model?
-James

Because no one likes Canadians.

vr24 said:
Because no one likes Canadians.
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lmaoo..yeah that might just be it..haha

there are a few people here who have the rogers phones and have flashed hero and other roms to their phone just cause it does not say rogers does not mean it won't work be careful cause you don't want a paperweight

I'm on U.S. AT&T 3G.
But thanks for the pointless racist comment that does nothing to address the question.

rogers roms
Last time I checked there were several Custom Rogers Roms.
Did you look at soulife's ?
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523608)

Is there a specific modifcation that can be done to the custom roms to get them to load on the Rogers Dream?
T-Mobile's lack of 3G coverage was not desirable to me so I imported one.
I know Cyanogen mentioned somthing about it but I can't find any information otherwise.
-James

enomther said:
Last time I checked there were several Custom Rogers Roms.
Did you look at soulife's ?
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523608)
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Aren't these rogers roms ported for use on the TMobile G1? AFAIK, those don't actually run on a real Rogers Dream, but if I'm wrong, I'de be happy.
-James

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removed ... since I was uninformed.
~cheers~

enomther said:
So let me get this straight ... you imported a Rogers Dream so that you could use AT&T in the states ? umk (There are ways to unlock the TMO G1's for AT&T use)
Eitherway ... as far as I know, if you're rooted and have a nice recovery image installed, like Cyanogen's ... you should be able to (with no problem) load a custom Roger's ROM like soulife's (which I liked very much, when I used it).
Dream hardware is dream hardware ... doesn't really matter where you got it.
You may need the HardSPL though.
~cheers~
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This is wrong, and there is a whole thread in the Dream forum about it. The Rogers Dream is slightly different hardware and we can't build custom kernels for it yet. Its being worked on, though.

cyanogen said:
This is wrong, and there is a whole thread in the Dream forum about it. The Rogers Dream is slightly different hardware and we can't build custom kernels for it yet. Its being worked on, though.
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I stand fully corrected then!

enomther said:
So let me get this straight ... you imported a Rogers Dream so that you could use AT&T in the states ? umk (There are ways to unlock the TMO G1's for AT&T use)
Eitherway ... as far as I know, if you're rooted and have a nice recovery image installed, like Cyanogen's ... you should be able to (with no problem) load a custom Roger's ROM like soulife's (which I liked very much, when I used it).
Dream hardware is dream hardware ... doesn't really matter where you got it.
~cheers~
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Cyonegens roms don't run on the Rogers, he even has stated as much. He had a custom boot iamge at one point for the Rogers DReam but pulled it because it didn't actually work.
I would agree, in theory, G1 hardware is G1 hardware, but something is different about the device some how. It is a newer revision of the G1 and uses a different amplifier for the different 3G frequencies so who knows what other minor tweaks were done.
Yes I imported one. And I also own a developer phone which runs on AT&T. Now I think it's obvious to anyone that Edge speeds for data or less than desirable. This is simply an unfortunate state of T-Mobile undesirable 3G deployment which is hardly anywhere useful, and AT&T much larger deployment with larger spectrum assets in many markets. AT&T is no Verizon, but it's more solid than T-Mobile any day, where I live for sure. Maybe when T-Mobile goes 3G here later this year I will reconsider but for now I'm happy with AT&T, not to mention my grandfathered data plan is less than T-Mobiles and I'm constantly hitting 1 - 1.5 mbit on AT&T's 3G around here.
-James

Maybe google hates Canadians. I find it odd that there is no developer phone with North American 3G (AT&T/Rogers) frequencies.
-James

jmacdonald801 said:
Cyonegens roms don't run on the Rogers, he even has stated as much. He had a custom boot iamge at one point for the Rogers DReam but pulled it because it didn't actually work.
I would agree, in theory, G1 hardware is G1 hardware, but something is different about the device some how. It is a newer revision of the G1 and uses a different amplifier for the different 3G frequencies so who knows what other minor tweaks were done.
Yes I imported one. And I also own a developer phone which runs on AT&T. Now I think it's obvious to anyone that Edge speeds for data or less than desirable. This is simply an unfortunate state of T-Mobile undesirable 3G deployment which is hardly anywhere useful, and AT&T much larger deployment with larger spectrum assets in many markets. AT&T is no Verizon, but it's more solid than T-Mobile any day, where I live for sure. Maybe when T-Mobile goes 3G here later this year I will reconsider but for now I'm happy with AT&T, not to mention my grandfathered data plan is less than T-Mobiles and I'm constantly hitting 1 - 1.5 mbit on AT&T's 3G around here.
-James
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Yes I was corrected, sorry about the confusion.

enomther said:
Yes I was corrected, sorry about the confusion.
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But the answer is likely in the cyanogen's correction on the matter ... if they can't build custom kernels ... that would explain the lack of ROMs.

enomther said:
But the answer is likely in the cyanogen's correction on the matter ... if they can't build custom kernels ... that would explain the lack of ROMs.
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A few people (PhaseBurn in particular) are trying hard to get the specs/code needed to do this. We are kind of at the mercy of HTC right now.

jmacdonald801 said:
I'm on U.S. AT&T 3G.
But thanks for the pointless racist comment that does nothing to address the question.
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Are Canadians really a different race?
Glad you got your question answered though

7 Pro on US Cellular

I have the 7 Pro on a smaller regional carrier in the US. Generally the dev community behind the devices they carry is non-existent.
With WP7 are the unlocks/jailbreaks fairly universal? I see lots of references to 1st gen vs. 2nd gen HTC devices and understand the difference to be drivers.
I am on the base OS build yet, 7004. I read through the jailbreaking instructions I believe should work (http://wiki.windowsphonehacker.com/wiki/Jailbreaking:HTC_1st_Generation). It does not mention the 7 Pro/Gold at all, should I assume it will work on this device for this small regional carrier?
Very new to this community (have had the device for a day), not tech inept at all, programming experience and rom building experience for Android. Just looking for a good place to start with this device that has no real community backing on this specific carrier.
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I'd actually like to hear an answer for that, I also have U.S. Cellular (updated to Mango - 7740) but I want Internet Sharing so that I can use the net on the go. Is there a way to put a custom ROM on our carriers phone. And what about the Chevron Labs unlock tool, what does that do in terms of putting ROMs on your phone?

My understanding is that the 7 Pro has some jailbreak / unlock capability in the pre-NoDo days (so the OP might be able to do them). The Chevron unlock tool only lets you side-load applications without going through the marketplace and doesn't help you with custom ROMs (AFAIK). The Arrive (Sprint's 7 Pro version) is still stuck in the unfortunate mode of locked for hacking.

colem91 said:
I'd actually like to hear an answer for that, I also have U.S. Cellular (updated to Mango - 7740) but I want Internet Sharing so that I can use the net on the go. Is there a way to put a custom ROM on our carriers phone. And what about the Chevron Labs unlock tool, what does that do in terms of putting ROMs on your phone?
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I'm with US Cell AND their official answer is if you want any kind of teathering, it'll cost you $30 / month and THEY control turning it on.
From everything I've been reading, ICS is actually built into WP7 BUT the crew has yet to figure an easy way to enable it without unlocking the phone AND, from what I've read, it's still uncertain as to if the proceedure is only for GSM phones or will work with US Cell's CDMA phones.. I was reading a thread here yesterday, sorry, no link, where a group is working hard on figureing out which reg keys need to be corrected to enable ICS..
HOPEFULLY someone will figure a way that will work with all phones and NOT have to get a DEV key to unlock.. I love my 7 Pro phone but I really miss my Touch Pro and WinMobile WiFi Router. <sigh>

Actually, they do support tethering by default on their data plans now. I haven't seen a plan since the change to Belief that doesn't have it. The problem, the HTC 7 Pro does not support tethering AT ALL. This is most likely due to changes in the OS platform that prevents it or simply does not make it available to be used as a modem.
Source:
uscellular.com/smartphones/windows-mobile/tethering.html

gadwil said:
Actually, they do support tethering by default on their data plans now. I haven't seen a plan since the change to Belief that doesn't have it. The problem, the HTC 7 Pro does not support tethering AT ALL. This is most likely due to changes in the OS platform that prevents it or simply does not make it available to be used as a modem.
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uscellular.com/smartphones/windows-mobile/tethering.html
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FWIW, I called and talked to the US Cell tech support last week and was told that YES, tethering IS available BUT it is a charge service AND it has to be "turned on" by the company..
Just saying,

The USB port settings in the phone would have to be changed from its default mode that allows Zune connections to the modem mode that allows tethering.
Samsung and LG phones have Engineering menu codes that allow changing the USB port mode. As far as I know, the HTC 7 Pro/HTC Arrive does not...

[Q] LTE On MIUI Port?

I had flashed the MIUI ROM from here, and believe that I now no longer have LTE. There was never a truly noticeable, but a difference has become more apparent to me. Still, at the moment, I don't know if I have LTE or not. Can someone tell me how to check if I have an LTE connection?
I am currently running HBOOT 1.14, which I heard may have some problems with any new LTE radio implementation. If I don't have LTE, can someone tell me how to get it?
I apologize if this post doesn't make too much sense.
Thanks!

You don't have LTE because the MIUI Sense port was from the One S, a device without an LTE modem. There is currently no easy way to get LTE on that ROM, short of modifying it yourself to include drivers for the modem and to initialize it at boot.
Whether or not it will be added in a future update is beyond me. Development for the ROM has slowed considerably for the time being until someone takes control of development of it for our device again.

[Q] Why is there no roms for the LTE version?

Seeing as how the LTE allows for a completely mobile tablet experience and has that additional 16Gb of storage; Not to mention the ability to text and call via Hangouts why does no developer support it?
Sure I've got mine rooted and have xposed installed and it's a great ROM, doesn't mean it's the best anyone can do. I'm just confused by the lack of 3rd party support for the LTE.

If you really go through the development section some of the ROMs for the Wifi only version are being ported.

The Shield isn't a massively cheap device, all the more for the LTE variant. I'd reckon that you'd see faster ports/rom releases for the LTE model if you bought one of the devs one. It's hard to test/develop for a device that you don't have and make sure that it will still work.

Another reason in addition to what everyone has mentioned is that the LTE one came out much later then the wifi one. So there has been a lot less time to get things working on it.

Is there a DEV that can create a flashable zip/mod for international roms on G900P

Hey guys,
I have been noticing, ever since the MM update came out earlier this year, development has slowed to a crawl for this phone. There are a few roms that look really nice, but are not really good as a daily driver, as some have missing functions such as Phone and Contacts, and other stuff is glitchy. But over on the international G900F forums they are overloaded with different great roms with tons of support and updates and all that good stuff. And looking at the difference between the Sprint G900P Galaxy S5 and the Unlocked variant (The G900F in particular) they have 95% of the same internal components, with the only difference being the Modem to communicate with the CDMA (Sprint) and GSM (every other carrier basically) Towers. This is the reason why the roms will boot, and everything will work perfectly hardware and driver wise other than picking up a signal for the Sprint Users.
So what I am asking is if there is a Developer out there who can compile a flash-able zip or something alike that includes the drivers for the Modem and sprint Libs. Or even if there is someone who has a background in this that could point me into a good place to start, I would be glad to do it. What does everyone think about this?

my question for you is why do you want this? I only ask because i was running MOAR 7.0 for my trip to Romania and Bulgaria this summer. I spent 2 weeks in a town 5 hours northwest of Bucharest and tons of town around Transylvania and a week down by the black sea in Bulgaria and my S5 was working perfectly on vodafone, never had an issue at all. Im domestically sim unlocked, but that shouldnt matter as the SSU apk should get you internationally unlocked and ready for use abroad. That being said, none of the international ROMs would give you an unlock for international or domestic use.

youdoofus said:
my question for you is why do you want this? I only ask because i was running MOAR 7.0 for my trip to Romania and Bulgaria this summer. I spent 2 weeks in a town 5 hours northwest of Bucharest and tons of town around Transylvania and a week down by the black sea in Bulgaria and my S5 was working perfectly on vodafone, never had an issue at all. Im domestically sim unlocked, but that shouldnt matter as the SSU apk should get you internationally unlocked and ready for use abroad. That being said, none of the international ROMs would give you an unlock for international or domestic use.
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I think you read the question wrong (perfectly fine, i didnt really word it very well on my part). What i was asking is if there could be a universal patch to make the Sprint LTE and Messaging and all that good stuff work on an international rom. I think it is possible as there is currently something that is exactly that, except for Verizon (the G900V variant).

chippinganimal said:
I think you read the question wrong (perfectly fine, i didnt really word it very well on my part). What i was asking is if there could be a universal patch to make the Sprint LTE and Messaging and all that good stuff work on an international rom. I think it is possible as there is currently something that is exactly that, except for Verizon (the G900V variant).
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Oh, my bad. Well, sprint lte isn't going to work overseas. To get lte, you'll need to do quite a bit of finagling with an nv calculator, qpst and qxdm. You'll first need to fine out what bands the carrier you'll be using utilizes, get the nv figures that they run on and make some changes to the modem you have installed on your phone. That involves getting into the diagnostic port of the device and, well, there's a whole thread devoted to exactly that. Anyways, hspa+ will work without too much effort, and hspa+ is pretty dang snappy. Messaging will work right out of the box after registering on the GSM network(+1 to gsm ) MMS and data will work also once you've entered the correct APN settings. If you REALLY need lte, then you're relegated to some tweaking, but if you can live with 5 to 7 Mbps(which is all a phone really needs, unless you're tethering for a laptop or several tablets or something like that), then just do the hspa+ thing. I was happily able to tool along quite well on that streaming YouTube, Netflix, Google map navigating, etc etc without issue. The reason there isn't a universal fix is because it would take quite some doing to maintain an app to have all those apns and so forth, but that being said, the idoneapps apk does do that for the available gsm carriers in the states. I didn't use it abroad, but might be worthwhile to ask in their forums. The admin of that site "nodial" is an Android genius! Their app costs $35, and it won't add the lte bands, but if the lack of hassle is worth it to you, it couldn't hurt to ask him. He's on XDA also with the same nick. @Nodial, does your app do the APN fix abroad too?
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