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Rooted and have some questions

Let me start off by saying I am not in any way new to Android or rooting (I don't know why I felt like adding that, but I did).
Anyway, today I rooted and installed the Voodoo Lag Fix. Are there any NOTICEABLE changes? Everything seems to be just as slow or fast (however you want to describe it), and the colors seem to be the same (I read that it enhances colors).
Also, I want to keep my phone running quick, so I want as few apps installed as possible, but I also didn't root for nothing. SO: if I remove bloat that's safe to remove, will I have any problems taking the Gingerbread OTA when it comes out? I remember the DROID X used to check for all bloatware or else the update would fail. Also, are there any good root apps to check out? I know about most of them, but anything specifically recommended for the Charge? I've never overclocked because I read it can overheat the phone, but I guess if it IS a better experience, I should give it a go, right? What's the recommended overclock setting?
And finally, should I accept the GB OTA when it comes to us? Will the rooting method be the same, just with different files?
I know it's a lot but I'd really like some answers. Thanks in advance!

Lots of questions in one paragraph.
I would suggest taking a look at flashing with the Gummy or Humble Rom, they both have bloatware stripped.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116086
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146103
I have used both, and they both work very well.
No idea when GB OTA will be released but I'm sure if you do it OTA you will get extra bloatware. It is safe to OC the charge to 1300mhz.

jason2302 said:
Let me start off by saying I am not in any way new to Android or rooting (I don't know why I felt like adding that, but I did).
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Hahaha then why do you have so many questions?

letsgophillyingeneral said:
Hahaha then why do you have so many questions?
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Because it seems like this phone is kind of different from the other Androids I've had (X, OG, and Incredible 2).
Also, like I said, I want the best for my phone to keep it up and running as fast as possible haha. Metaphorically, it's my baby.

Also, I'm about to install this theme on stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127382

Why are you installing a theme before you root it? I'm starting to doubt your 1337 r00ting skills.

blahdc said:
Why are you installing a theme before you root it? I'm starting to doubt your 1337 r00ting skills.
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I'm already rooted. Hence the title "rooted." lol
I installed the theme and it's looking pretty good btw.

To ROM/kernel devs.

I have a question but yet a request to ROM and kernel developers.
I came here from the HTC First community, which has a descent size user base but base no Dev support, literally none. And I was wondering if anyone could take a look and see what they can do. If you can't, that's fine, but its a great device with lots of prospects if someone could get a custom ROM up and running. At least give it a look guys.
Much thanks from the whole HTC First community.

It's that bad over there huh? It runs near stock Android, right? Just use Xposed framework and set it up how you like it. That's what I would do, even if there were 100 custom ROMs available.

Nobody is going to build for a device they don't own, unless they have an extremely good reason to do so. When one builds a ROM and/or kernel, they build it to their liking - impossible if you don't even own the device.

Lethargy said:
Nobody is going to build for a device they don't own, unless they have an extremely good reason to do so. When one builds a ROM and/or kernel, they build it to their liking - impossible if you don't even own the device.
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Yup, and considering only 5 people ever bought that phone... what are the chances of one of them being a developer? Apparently zero.

_MetalHead_ said:
Yup, and considering only 5 people ever bought that phone... what are the chances of one of them being a developer? Apparently zero.
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There was one, then he mysteriously vanished, he almost got cm11 working but...
Anyways. Thanks for the response. Maybe someone will maybe someone won't. No pressure.

_MetalHead_ said:
It's that bad over there huh? It runs near stock Android, right? Just use Xposed framework and set it up how you like it. That's what I would do, even if there were 100 custom ROMs available.
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That's a pretty crappy rationalization. Just cause you can do that with 4.4 people still want 5.0 right? Yeah. Keep talking lol

russian392 said:
That's a pretty crappy rationalization. Just cause you can do that with 4.4 people still want 5.0 right? Yeah. Keep talking lol
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Our point still stands. Asking in the Nexus 5 section won't change anything since nobody will develop for a device they don't have/care about.
If the people there want 5.0 that badly, maybe one of them should step up and do it.

russian392 said:
That's a pretty crappy rationalization. Just cause you can do that with 4.4 people still want 5.0 right? Yeah. Keep talking lol
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You made no mention of wanting 5.0 in the OP, you just said custom ROMs. I simply offered an alternative. Xposed is awesome, and you can use it to add a crap ton of features to the stock ROM.

_MetalHead_ said:
You made no mention of wanting 5.0 in the OP, you just said custom ROMs. I simply offered an alternative. Xposed is awesome, and you can use it to add a crap ton of features to the stock ROM.
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That's what I used on my First. Xposed rocks! And no I just mentioned any custom ROM or kernel.

Yep, I think it's the single greatest Android mod ever conceived. Both of my Android phones have Lollipop available to them, yet both are staying on KitKat and Xposed is the primary reason why.

Is the Pixel 2 right for me? Opinions appreciated.

Hi all,
I am enamored by the Pixel 2 for the camera, general size and clean android experience. I am coming from a Moto X (2013) DE, which I have been using for almost three years with no complaints. I am on Verizon GFUDP, am unlocked, rooted and using Xposed framework. I use the phone for tethering quite often. I don't generally use custom ROMs,; once I am setup and got everything running nice, I stop playing around with the phone and just use it.
That said, I am ready to upgrade and still want an unlockable, rootable device, which has a really good camera and will allow me to tether at will. My thought is to purchase the Pixel 2 through Google. I see that there has been some bumpiness in the road to root success, and I am wondering if this device will eventually (if it's already not) become stable enough to do what I want without a lot of fooling with it, or fear of accidentally "bricking", or other issues down the road.
So in the big picture, do you feel that the Pixel 2 can be set up, forgotten about, and just used, as I describe above, or do you think that the device will need to be tweaked on a regular basis? If so, do you have any recommendations of devices which better fit the parameters listed above?
Thanks in advance!

amajamar said:
Hi all,
I am enamored by the Pixel 2 for the camera, general size and clean android experience. I am coming from a Moto X (2013) DE, which I have been using for almost three years with no complaints. I am on Verizon GFUDP, am unlocked, rooted and using Xposed framework. I use the phone for tethering quite often. I don't generally use custom ROMs,; once I am setup and got everything running nice, I stop playing around with the phone and just use it.
That said, I am ready to upgrade and still want an unlockable, rootable device, which has a really good camera and will allow me to tether at will. My thought is to purchase the Pixel 2 through Google. I see that there has been some bumpiness in the road to root success, and I am wondering if this device will eventually (if it's already not) become stable enough to do what I want without a lot of fooling with it, or fear of accidentally "bricking", or other issues down the road.
So in the big picture, do you feel that the Pixel 2 can be set up, forgotten about, and just used, as I describe above, or do you think that the device will need to be tweaked on a regular basis? If so, do you have any recommendations of devices which better fit the parameters listed above?
Thanks in advance!
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It should be good in the long run. In my personal experience after using a lot of ROM's/kernels/mods since 2011 I would say the max your needs would come to is getting a custom kernel. With no disrespect to the developers who have worked on providing great roms throughout the years, google has really developed 8.0/8.1 into a completely viable solution that till now has not got me to even consider rooting the device to get some custom features on it.

flunk03 said:
It should be good in the long run. In my personal experience after using a lot of ROM's/kernels/mods since 2011 I would say the max your needs would come to is getting a custom kernel. With no disrespect to the developers who have worked on providing great roms throughout the years, google has really developed 8.0/8.1 into a completely viable solution that till now has not got me to even consider rooting the device to get some custom features on it.
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As I said, as long as I can get the tethering function, I am pretty much good to go. Do I need a custom kernel for that?

amajamar said:
As I said, as long as I can get the tethering function, I am pretty much good to go. Do I need a custom kernel for that?
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Afaik just rooting and getting an app designed for that should be fine I guess. It's not something I know since we don't have that issue with carriers on that front

amajamar said:
As I said, as long as I can get the tethering function, I am pretty much good to go. Do I need a custom kernel for that?
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As far as I'm aware you can achieve this with Magisk root and a Magisk module.

Buy Pixel 2, unlock bootloader before you set up the phone (get the factory reset out of the way), then just use it as-is indefinitely until you find you need something that only root can provide. If that's the case, then install Magisk, and keep on rolling.

My Pixel 2 is rooted from awhile back. I want to update/upgrade

I really just want recommendations for what should I be upgrading or switching to in terms of which recovery I should have installed and what is the latest version for my phone or whatever.
Can someone PLEASE tell me if what they think of any of the FEW custom roms available? I will take the first recommendation...lol. Maybe the best recommendation is to just use stock like I am because it's fine but I still want to do a refresh and get the latest and greatest updates since I am probably not receiving OTA updates
For a long time I had been REALLY hoping to install a custom ROM on this puppy but sadly, even though I love my Pixel 2 and having it rooted, noone seemed to care be making custom roms for her at the time. Development is/was slow it seems unless I am viewing it wrong. strange.
I find that really strange because I recall claims that google is ok with you rooting this phone and does not in fact break the warranty.
Anyways, yeah please any simple advice would be helpful to me as I am just a little out of the loop since I last updated my phone

I don't really understand the point or see the need for me to install a different kernel but can't someone please tell me what might be cool about doing so?
I just want my phone to have a try with a different ROM installed that might be sleeker or more efficient and customizable somehow, just to try it and see.

if you dont know why you need a different kernel then dont do it.
if you want a custom rom on your Pixel 2 for the COOL factor. dont do it.

munchy_cool said:
if you dont know why you need a different kernel then dont do it.
if you want a custom rom on your Pixel 2 for the COOL factor. dont do it.
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I agree with the sentiment as far as the kernel is concerned, but disagree for custom roms. There are a lot of features on custom roms for other phones that are pretty cool, so his question makes sense. Personally, I used to flash custom roms on older devices, and I'd pick them based on what features I thought were "cool."
As for the OP, I've been running rooted stock on my Pixel 2 since day one, and I have no desire to try custom roms. There's nothing appealing to me, offered by custom roms, that I can't get on stock with Magisk Modules and other root apps, such as Substratum. As far as which recovery to use, just check out the TWRP thread, it'll have the most recent. If you want to update your stock rom, just download a factory image from Google and flash it. Just be sure to remove the -w from the .bat if you don't want it to wipe your device.

This is the first phone that I have not rooted since I got it. The process is very cumbersome and the phone seems to run really well stock. I used to like wise also be caught up with custom roms but now it's just nice having everything work although unfortunately root is much harder to get as well

mikeprius said:
This is the first phone that I have not rooted since I got it. The process is very cumbersome and the phone seems to run really well stock. I used to like wise also be caught up with custom roms but now it's just nice having everything work although unfortunately root is much harder to get as well
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how is root harder to get?

munchy_cool said:
how is root harder to get?
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It's just more cumbersome. I rooted my Pixel 1 and not having a dedicated recovery partition like the nexus did just made things a bigger pain in the ass than they needed to be. If I made changes, etc I had to always fastboot into TWRP then reflash. I think I just miss the way the nexus was. Right now I cannot use CDMA on the OnePlus, but if the merger happens with Sprint and T-Mobile and I can I'm going to consider it.

mikeprius said:
It's just more cumbersome. I rooted my Pixel 1 and not having a dedicated recovery partition like the nexus did just made things a bigger pain in the ass than they needed to be. If I made changes, etc I had to always fastboot into TWRP then reflash. I think I just miss the way the nexus was. Right now I cannot use CDMA on the OnePlus, but if the merger happens with Sprint and T-Mobile and I can I'm going to consider it.
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just have to add twrp zip after flashing a rom. Magisk does not mess with TWRP.

mikeprius said:
This is the first phone that I have not rooted since I got it. The process is very cumbersome and the phone seems to run really well stock. I used to like wise also be caught up with custom roms but now it's just nice having everything work although unfortunately root is much harder to get as well
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Same. I know lots of people say "just flash twrp after each monthly update" etc but the reality is why make something more complicated than it needs to/used to be. For the Pixel 2 it seems every TWRP update is a "I'm going to make a backup image of my phone and cross my fingers it works when I need it" feeling. I don't personally enjoy that so like you I'm sticking with stock on the P2 for now.

Just read my previous post on updating. You'll be glad you did: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=76342671
Sent from my Pixel 2 using my fingers on the keyboard.

mamarcac said:
Same. I know lots of people say "just flash twrp after each monthly update" etc but the reality is why make something more complicated than it needs to/used to be. For the Pixel 2 it seems every TWRP update is a "I'm going to make a backup image of my phone and cross my fingers it works when I need it" feeling. I don't personally enjoy that so like you I'm sticking with stock on the P2 for now.
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I have not tried to make a back up since the Pixel 1. I'm sure things have improved however before when I first had the Pixel 1 and tried to make a backup I had issues and never tried again. Also the updating process, I would just flash the new boot.img and system, when I tried it with the pixel 1 it kept erasing despite removing the w- flag.
The Pixel 2 works well enough plus it's my daily driver and the process has just become cumbersome esp with work and others things I am doing. Probably at some point I may look at it again, and I have CDMA, but if I want to really run with that stuff I'd probably just get a OnePlus which is oriented more towards modding.
Plus more and more apps are not working with root and while you can get around that with magisk it's a cat and mouse game constantly. I don't even know how to do it anymore but I remember last year you had to flash this, then that, etc, etc in a certain sequence, then if it didn't work you start all over etc etc.....It's just a hassle.

Question Plan to get a new Pixel 7 Pro

Hi all
I plan to get a Pixel 7 Pro pretty soon.
Decided to go for it as the added telephoto lens could be useful even if I don't take photos much. How has the camera been in your expereince?
I also plan to use custom ROM on it. Have any suggestions for those? I may want to use Google Pay with it. Graphine does seem nice for the privacy angle though

P7P has one of the best cameras on the market no doubt.
Stock firmware is missing nothing, for anything else there is aosp mods.
I dont know of any custom rom that will not let you use gpay.
I dont like the battery drain of the p7p but i dont know any phone where i like it tbh.

xtcislove said:
P7P has one of the best cameras on the market no doubt.
Stock firmware is missing nothing, for anything else there is aosp mods.
I dont know of any custom rom that will not let you use gpay.
I dont like the battery drain of the p7p but i dont know any phone where i like it tbh.
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I was exploring Graphine but I keep hearing it won't let you do Google Pay.
I don't mind running stock but custom rom. What would you suggest besides Graphine?
Don't care for root stuff atm
Just want to use the phone

luckychukiye said:
I was exploring Graphine but I keep hearing it won't let you do Google Pay.
I don't mind running stock but custom rom. What would you suggest besides Graphine?
Don't care for root stuff atm
Just want to use the phone
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Run Stock ist stable and has everything i Need
Maybe try Evolution x but i never felt the Need to use custom Roms on this Phone

That works.
It's a clean interface otuta the box
It's a brand new phone so nothing to worry about

xtcislove said:
Run Stock ist stable and has everything i Need
Maybe try Evolution x but i never felt the Need to use custom Roms on this Phone
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Yeah I always wondered why one would use a custom ROM on the best android phone in the world when it comes to software pixel exclusives.
I've stated this many times but using other devices I needed root and custom ROMs to keep the device going past the original manufacturer life cycle, in these days a new phone comes out every 9 months.
Pixel/Nexus/Samsung/Google keeps the devices software updated at least 3 years.
Security is priority for me should be for everyone..
Lastly, I want to root just to install a custom kernel but always running stock android on Pixels.
I haven't seen or heard any one say a custom ROM ran better in three years than stock pixel.
After Google drops support then custom ROMs are needed imo...

jhjhjhjhjhjh said:
Yeah I always wondered why one would use a custom ROM on the best android phone in the world when it comes to software pixel exclusives.
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Keep those and add a bit. I really would hate to lack network monitor, skip track for music, and battery being a circle. Why does google not do this? The code is out and open, they just would have to merge.

wangdaning said:
Keep those and add a bit. I really would hate to lack network monitor, skip track for music, and battery being a circle. Why does google not do this? The code is out and open, they just would have to merge.
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So keeping the phone as is should be fine?

luckychukiye said:
So keeping the phone as is should be fine?
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Stock is fine, those features I referred to are not in stock though. You can root and use AOSPmods or something to get features, but I feel a custom rom with the features you want integrated is always the better choice. There is a thread about custom roms you could take a look at.

Mint has a deal for the 7pro. $689, 12 month service with 6 months free. I saw somewhere when researching about a Japan version being received by some ppl. I am on T-Mobile and tested mint on my tablet. No difference or issues I could see. Just a bit concerned with the model they have. Looking around I didn't see anyone else this low. I can do the mint deal @ $58 a month, get a Pixel phone and come out cheaper cause T-Mobile is $70 a month. really a no brainier, and I have wanted a Pixel phone for last 2 phones but couldn't handle the price. So anyone have an issue w getting a foreign model and mint mobile?

wangdaning said:
Stock is fine, those features I referred to are not in stock though. You can root and use AOSPmods or something to get features, but I feel a custom rom with the features you want integrated is always the better choice. There is a thread about custom roms you could take a look at.
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Thanks!

wangdaning said:
Stock is fine, those features I referred to are not in stock though. You can root and use AOSPmods or something to get features, but I feel a custom rom with the features you want integrated is always the better choice. There is a thread about custom roms you could take a look at.
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which thread is that? link?

luckychukiye said:
which thread is that? link?
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Custom ROMs
Hey all the custom ROMers here. I hope you all are doing great. What ROM you are currently running on your P7/P7P and why? I'm pretty new to android root scene and looking forward to install custom ROM on my P7. Any answers would be appreciated!!
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