[Q] Hangouts i want to pull my hair out - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So i got my nexus 5 yesterday which was actually amazingly fast as i ordered on the 5th and when i ordered it was due to leave warehouse by the 12th so i was more then happy
Im loving the phone it takes all the thing i loved from my N4 and improves apart .
Now down to my issues i like the UI of Hangouts for my SMS its just the Contacts it is taking my Google + contacts and adding them to my phone contacts being everyone from there is basically in my contacts anyways it is duplicating them and maybe its a bit OCD by i have to have every contact only once with a picture if they don't have pics or are duplicated i get really frustrated. I had a similar thing when i used MIUI on my N4 but they allowed you to merge contacts or delete unwanted duplicates. So far i haven't been able to find this but it may be due to my frustration so if anyone can help or advise that would be great
Chris AKA MrDNAUK

mrdnauk said:
So i got my nexus 5 yesterday which was actually amazingly fast as i ordered on the 5th and when i ordered it was due to leave warehouse by the 12th so i was more then happy
Im loving the phone it takes all the thing i loved from my N4 and improves apart .
Now down to my issues i like the UI of Hangouts for my SMS its just the Contacts it is taking my Google + contacts and adding them to my phone contacts being everyone from there is basically in my contacts anyways it is duplicating them and maybe its a bit OCD by i have to have every contact only once with a picture if they don't have pics or are duplicated i get really frustrated. I had a similar thing when i used MIUI on my N4 but they allowed you to merge contacts or delete unwanted duplicates. So far i haven't been able to find this but it may be due to my frustration so if anyone can help or advise that would be great
Chris AKA MrDNAUK
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A Hangouts conversation is being treated differently than a "SMS" conversation.
There is currently no way to merge the conversations even if it's with the same person.

Ruggerxpunk said:
A Hangouts conversation is being treated differently than a "SMS" conversation.
There is currently no way to merge the conversations even if it's with the same person.
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So is there anyway i can just take it off my phone i read if i download a new sms app such as chomp i can change it to the default but i have done that but when i go to change the default it only shows hangouts not chomp to make default

mrdnauk said:
So i got my nexus 5 yesterday which was actually amazingly fast as i ordered on the 5th and when i ordered it was due to leave warehouse by the 12th so i was more then happy
Im loving the phone it takes all the thing i loved from my N4 and improves apart .
Now down to my issues i like the UI of Hangouts for my SMS its just the Contacts it is taking my Google + contacts and adding them to my phone contacts being everyone from there is basically in my contacts anyways it is duplicating them and maybe its a bit OCD by i have to have every contact only once with a picture if they don't have pics or are duplicated i get really frustrated. I had a similar thing when i used MIUI on my N4 but they allowed you to merge contacts or delete unwanted duplicates. So far i haven't been able to find this but it may be due to my frustration so if anyone can help or advise that would be great
Chris AKA MrDNAUK
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Until they come up with a solution to this (by they I mean Google) then you can just download another app to use for messaging until hangouts is smoothed out better. Or you could use the old messaging app and just extract it or search for it online
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abdel12345 said:
Until they come up with a solution to this (by they I mean Google) then you can just download another app to use for messaging until hangouts is smoothed out better. Or you could use the old messaging app and just extract it or search for it online
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First thanks to both of you for such a quick reply i have sorted the issue by downloading 8sms which it then let me set as default know idea why it wouldn't do it with chomp . I hope they do sort the problem as i do like the idea of hangouts being a sms app but uses messenger very similar to Whats app i guess. Just make it so you can merge the contact from your address book to the hangout contact like i said MIUI has something similar

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[Q] Multiple threads for same contact in Google Voice

Im not sure if this has been asked and answered... My search of the nexus s forum didnt turn up much...
In google voice (where i've been receiving all of my voice and text messages) the same contact has multiple threads. It seems like each days text messages go into a new thread by default or something. Bottom line, to look at a previous day's messages i have to back out of the current days message thead and scroll down (through other contact's duplicated threads) and open the same contacts messages from a previous day.
In the default android messaging app all texts to a single contact are grouped together. google voice on the other hand makes going back through texts a pain. is there any way to make google voice text groupings behave like the stock android app?
sorry to reply to my own question.... >100 views, anyone have any ideas? is anyone with sprint even experiencing the same issue?
Yes, I am experiencing the same issue on my Nexus S on Sprint.
droidster24 said:
Yes, I am experiencing the same issue on my Nexus S on Sprint.
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That's how they are grouped at voice.google.com too so I don't believe it's an app or a Sprint issue.
EDIT: Seems like it was designed that way, the reasons for which aren't clear:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/voice/thread?tid=2e9955e6dd3bc56a&hl=en
I noticed the same thing. It gets kind of annoying but I just archive the old ones in case I need to go back for something. Would be nice to have one per person but perhaps it's to limit size?
Any resolution to this? I have gvoice on my HTC vision and it still seems to be creating multiple threads for the same contact (not 100% of the time, but often)

[Q] Android 4.4 Hangouts SMS issue

Hi there,
My first post here, although I've hung out, anonymously, looking at the resources within the forum.
Today I received my Nexus 5. It's a lovely bit of hardware, but I've come from an HTC phone (4.1.1 Desire X) and I love the Sense UI; just so you know, I hate stock 4.4 thus my post below is in utter exasperation
I'm having an issue with trying to send an SMS. Unfortunately, I have to use Hangouts (I refused to update from Google Talk on the Desire X) and I'm finding that I can't sending a frigging SMS to a colleague at work because I have his Gmail email address as part of his contact details!!!
This is absolutely the most retarded thing in a Phone OS that I have come across, ever. Unfortunately, as an early adopter of this phone, I'm stuck without an alternative. So far as I can see, in Hangouts, I would have to type in the phone number manually whilst being logged out of my Gmail accounts in Hangouts to send an SMS, or maybe deleting the user's email address would suffice.
Am I missing some way of sending an SMS that's not completely obvious here?
My N5 arrives tomorrow, so I can't be much help with the app itself, but if it's really confusing/awful you can download an alternative SMS app from the play store and set it as your default.
Edit: I hear you on hating hangouts. I cant stand the version they have on 4.0/4.1/4.2/4.3, been sticking with talk also.
I don't have it in my hands yet to test, but I'm fairly sure once you've opened the "new hangout" window, you can tap on their name on the upper left and switch to SMS from Hangout message.
two00lbwaster said:
Hi there,
My first post here, although I've hung out, anonymously, looking at the resources within the forum.
Today I received my Nexus 5. It's a lovely bit of hardware, but I've come from an HTC phone (4.1.1 Desire X) and I love the Sense UI; just so you know, I hate stock 4.4 thus my post below is in utter exasperation
I'm having an issue with trying to send an SMS. Unfortunately, I have to use Hangouts (I refused to update from Google Talk on the Desire X) and I'm finding that I can't sending a frigging SMS to a colleague at work because I have his Gmail email address as part of his contact details!!!
This is absolutely the most retarded thing in a Phone OS that I have come across, ever. Unfortunately, as an early adopter of this phone, I'm stuck without an alternative. So far as I can see, in Hangouts, I would have to type in the phone number manually whilst being logged out of my Gmail accounts in Hangouts to send an SMS, or maybe deleting the user's email address would suffice.
Am I missing some way of sending an SMS that's not completely obvious here?
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This app simply uses the word "Hangouts" over "SMS" so basically new hangout means new text message unless you specify a hangout chat. If the actual hangouts for either is unavailable then a text message will be automatically sent to the number. New "SMS" is the plus button and you can immediately type the number or scroll to find your contact. Everything after seems to work just like iMessage.
koriflame said:
My N5 arrives tomorrow, so I can't be much help with the app itself, but if it's really confusing/awful you can download an alternative SMS app from the play store and set it as your default.
Edit: I hear you on hating hangouts. I cant stand the version they have on 4.0/4.1/4.2/4.3, been sticking with talk also.
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Seems to be the downside of having the device nice and early, noone else has one to confirm the issue.
Unfortunately, the other apps don't seem to work as they have to be rebuilt due to the changes that 4.4 has introduced
two00lbwaster said:
Seems to be the downside of having the device nice and early, noone else has one to confirm the issue.
Unfortunately, the other apps don't seem to work as they have to be rebuilt due to the changes that 4.4 has introduced
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I'm not sure what problem you are having. I just got my N5 today and when I create a new message in Hangouts and choose a contact (one that has a gmail.com email address as well as a cell number) I have the choice between starting a chat or sending an SMS to the phone number. Do you not see this?
Vincent Law said:
I don't have it in my hands yet to test, but I'm fairly sure once you've opened the "new hangout" window, you can tap on their name on the upper left and switch to SMS from Hangout message.
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I'll have a look to see if that works.
KinghtMare. said:
This app simply uses the word "Hangouts" over "SMS" so basically new hangout means new text message unless you specify a hangout chat. If the actual hangouts for either is unavailable then a text message will be automatically sent to the number. New "SMS" is the plus button and you can immediately type the number or scroll to find your contact. Everything after seems to work just like iMessage.
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I've never had an iPhone, which I'm guessing from the name is where that messaging application comes from. I tried to send a message to a collegue, and it sent it as a hangout, not an SMS. There is no option not to send it as an hangout, any more so than there is an option to send the message as a hangout, so I can't send him text messages.
davekr said:
I'm not sure what problem you are having. I just got my N5 today and when I create a new message in Hangouts and choose a contact (one that has a gmail.com email address as well as a cell number) I have the choice between starting a chat or sending an SMS to the phone number. Do you not see this?
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Okay, yes, if I type in the person's name I now see several entries for the person, one is the Hangouts account which is top and the other is for SMS.
However, if I scroll down and select the person as I was doing originally, even though it says his phone number, it defaults to hangouts and you can't change it.
I don't have particularly many people in my contacts list so I prefer to scroll and select, as it's probably quicker for me, rather than type into the search box.
you need to verify your phone number before being able to use it for sms
hit the plus button and add a contact...then select the contact's name from the top of the screen (next to the green handouts icon), and choose their phone number instead of their email address
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n7of9 said:
you need to verify your phone number before being able to use it for sms
hit the plus button and add a contact...then select the contact's name from the top of the screen (next to the green handouts icon), and choose their phone number instead of their email address
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Quite aside from not wishing to verify my number with Google, I shouldn't have to. SMS should be completely devoid of this kind of requirement as it is very basic mobile phone functionality.
I have spent quite some considerable time today turning off location services and and any data sent back to Google. I've also been disabling certain Google Apps and would disable more if it would let me. I've also found that App Ops seems to have been disabled too, so I can't even control what third party apps do; which was part of the reason for getting a 4.3+ phone.
At the moment, it seems that I can send messages, and hopefully something like Contacts+ will be updated to work with 4.4 and I can then disable Hangouts.
you can disable hangouts now, you just need to install an alternative sms app if you don't like the default...try Handcent
and don't be angry when someone is trying to help you
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It's not hangout it's u
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digweed4me said:
It's not hangout it's u
If u don't know how to use hangout tell google to put out I message crap on your nexus 5
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two00lbwaster said:
Quite aside from not wishing to verify my number with Google, I shouldn't have to. SMS should be completely devoid of this kind of requirement as it is very basic mobile phone functionality.
I have spent quite some considerable time today turning off location services and and any data sent back to Google. I've also been disabling certain Google Apps and would disable more if it would let me. I've also found that App Ops seems to have been disabled too, so I can't even control what third party apps do; which was part of the reason for getting a 4.3+ phone.
At the moment, it seems that I can send messages, and hopefully something like Contacts+ will be updated to work with 4.4 and I can then disable Hangouts.
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So install your own SMS app...4.4 allows you to use any SMS app as the default App, and then you can even uninstall Hangouts if you want to.
That's the beauty of a Nexus device.
n7of9 said:
you can disable hangouts now, you just need to install an alternative sms app if you don't like the default...try Handcent
and don't be angry when someone is trying to help you
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Sorry, I'm just angry that Google have just foisted the Hangouts app onto 4.4 users when it clearly isn't user friendly enough and makes one of my most common uses of the phone difficult.
I'll try Handcent. Contacts+/Messages+ doesn't currently seem to support 4.4 as you can't set it as the default messaging application and you can't send outgoing messages (It looks like you can send messages but they just disappear and aren't sent.)
hotleadsingerguy said:
So install your own SMS app...4.4 allows you to use any SMS app as the default App, and then you can even uninstall Hangouts if you want to.
That's the beauty of a Nexus device.
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The issue that I'm having is that not a lot of messaging applications support 4.4 yet. And as I've found with Messages+ if it doesn't support it you can have issues with messages that don't send/disappear.
You can uninstall Hangouts updates, you can't uninstall it. And if you uninstall the updates, you can't disable it.
Sliding messaging was updated to be compatible with 4.4, you can try it out
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I'm with the OP on this, I received my N5 today and it's almost impossible to start a new SMS conversation from within the app.
The app itelf is quite nice, but the SMS experience is sub-standard to say the least. I know I can go install another SMS app - but that's not the point, it's like shipping the phone/software with no dialer in it.
Scottland said:
I'm with the OP on this, I received my N5 today and it's almost impossible to start a new SMS conversation from within the app.
The app itelf is quite nice, but the SMS experience is sub-standard to say the least. I know I can go install another SMS app - but that's not the point, it's like shipping the phone/software with no dialer in it.
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I must be a brain scientist or a rocket surgeon or something... all I had to do to create to new SMS was click the "+" then start typing my contact's name or number. If my contact has a phone number associated with it I can select that for an SMS or their email for a hangout message......
Im confused and whether i understand your question properly. Anyways in the actual recipients message you can click their name and switch from a SMS conversation to a google talk/hangouts message. Not sure if that helped or not. You can more clearly see what i am talking about in this video. http://youtu.be/0ZFc3NFqfFk
BmoreTHOR said:
I must be a brain scientist or a rocket surgeon or something... all I had to do to create to new SMS was click the "+" then start typing my contact's name or number. If my contact has a phone number associated with it I can select that for an SMS or their email for a hangout message......
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You must be
I've just tried to send an SMS to my mum, on her contact card she has a mobile number and email address. When I try to send a message, at the top I only have "Hangouts" as an option.
If I try another contact (who does have a G+ account), I have the option of SMS or Hangouts.
I also discovered Now SMS recently... Very nice looking simple UI that fits with recent Android conventions. Using it on my Nexus 7 3G since it didn't come with any SMS client.
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[Q] mms?

I just bought a Nexus 5 two days ago and I will not be getting a sim card for this phone. I am just going to be using this phone to call over wifi and text over wifi. I have already set up a Google Voice number and everything to do it with. I just had one question. IK Google voice won't support it but is there an app I can get or something that will allow me to send and recive pictures or videos to/from my contacts. Please reply quickly because the Nexus 5 is probably going to be here in a couple of days!
Thanks for posting a question in the general thread. On top of that not searching either. This has been answered plenty of times.
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maxell505 said:
I just bought a Nexus 5 two days ago and I will not be getting a sim card for this phone. I am just going to be using this phone to call over wifi and text over wifi. I have already set up a Google Voice number and everything to do it with. I just had one question. IK Google voice won't support it but is there an app I can get or something that will allow me to send and recive pictures or videos to/from my contacts. Please reply quickly because the Nexus 5 is probably going to be here in a couple of days!
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If your contacts use Hangouts, then you can just share via Hangouts which comes pre-installed on the phone. Otherwise, you'll need to use the same service as your friends if you want to send pictures over WiFi (WhatsApp, Viber, etc.)
tsunami643 said:
If your contacts use Hangouts, then you can just share via Hangouts which comes pre-installed on the phone. Otherwise, you'll need to use the same service as your friends if you want to send pictures over WiFi (WhatsApp, Viber, etc.)
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ok thank you so much. Unlike the other guy who was being a complete di**
Right now some third party apps like sliding messenger can do mms and testing through your gvoice number. Your real issue will be when Google pulls that api next year.
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Valdeck said:
Right now some third party apps like sliding messenger can do mms and testing through your gvoice number. Your real issue will be when Google pulls that api next year.
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Yeah by next year I am hoping to get my contract but not right now. thanks a lot man
Valdeck said:
Right now some third party apps like sliding messenger can do mms and testing through your gvoice number. Your real issue will be when Google pulls that api next year.
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do you know any other apps like sliding messenger pro that support pic and video messaging. also group messaging?

[Q] Hangouts and IPhone

Does anyone know how to disable SMS from going to the Hangout app on an IPhone? Since I have an Nexus 5 now and all SMS,MMS go through Hangouts. When I send a text to my wife they go to her Hangout app instead of her default messaging.. She doesnt want them to the Hangout app she wants them to go to here regular messaging app like it did on my SGSIII. We have Hangouts so we can be able to video chat when Im at work.
milleirish said:
Does anyone know how to disable SMS from going to the Hangout app on an IPhone? Since I have an Nexus 5 now and all SMS,MMS go through Hangouts. When I send a text to my wife they go to her Hangout app instead of her default messaging.. She doesnt want them to the Hangout app she wants them to go to here regular messaging app like it did on my SGSIII. We have Hangouts so we can be able to video chat when Im at work.
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Can't you just use another app for your texting? Handcent is nice. You can probably even find the ole standard Messages app easy enough.
Landara said:
Can't you just use another app for your texting? Handcent is nice. You can probably even find the ole standard Messages app easy enough.
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I guess I could but I wanted to get the full google experience.. I will keep looking and trying.
milleirish said:
I guess I could but I wanted to get the full google experience.. I will keep looking and trying.
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I don't know if there is a solution to this, I've been checking a little on google just now, but to no avail.
Landara said:
I don't know if there is a solution to this, I've been checking a little on google just now, but to no avail.
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its strange that this issue would even exist. if i use hangouts to message my wife, and she's using the stock android messenger, my texts don't go arrive via the hangouts app on her device. i dont know why it would be different on an iphone. i wonder if its a setting on your wife's iphone hangouts app. you check? the issue is definitely with the app/device on her end. i'll do some looking around.
xBeerdroiDx said:
its strange that this issue would even exist. if i use hangouts to message my wife, and she's using the stock android messenger, my texts don't go arrive via the hangouts app on her device. i dont know why it would be different on an iphone. i wonder if its a setting on your wife's iphone hangouts app. you check? the issue is definitely with the app/device on her end. i'll do some looking around.
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My best guess is that this has something to do with iMessaging. But I don't know what or how, if so.
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My best guess is that this has something to do with iMessaging.
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agreed. i kow nothing about apple stuff except that when my wife finally switched from apple devices, it was a total pain in the ass. her phone, even with the sim card out, would intercept her text messages. this prevented her from getting any texts on her android. had to straighten that out. what a joke.
there must be something in her system settings, imessage settings or hangouts, etc. i'd start looking there.
I fixed the problem, I need to text to her number not her email. Email is for hangouts, number is for standard texting on IPhone. Thanks for the help guys.

[Q] Can I remove Google+ contacts from the hangouts sms app?

In 99.9999% of cases I do not want to message someone on google+. Is there anyway I can remove all the google+ integration from the hangouts messaging app and use it only for sms? Or do I need to get a different sms app?
Sorry, just got the Nexus 5 last weekend so I'm still learning everything about it.
get a different sms app. There are many on the play store you can use, you aren't limited to using Hangouts if you do not want to, for SMS.
d4ngerz said:
In 99.9999% of cases I do not want to message someone on google+. Is there anyway I can remove all the google+ integration from the hangouts messaging app and use it only for sms? Or do I need to get a different sms app?
Sorry, just got the Nexus 5 last weekend so I'm still learning everything about it.
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hold down the contact you want to remove then select "remove" or "delete", I forget which it is but that's how it's accomplished.
d4ngerz said:
In 99.9999% of cases I do not want to message someone on google+. Is there anyway I can remove all the google+ integration from the hangouts messaging app and use it only for sms? Or do I need to get a different sms app?
Sorry, just got the Nexus 5 last weekend so I'm still learning everything about it.
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In the settings in the app just sign out. It'll be SMS only at that point.
drdagreenphd said:
hold down the contact you want to remove then select "remove" or "delete", I forget which it is but that's how it's accomplished.
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Yup, you hold the contact name and select "Hide contact".
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d4ngerz said:
In 99.9999% of cases I do not want to message someone on google+. Is there anyway I can remove all the google+ integration from the hangouts messaging app and use it only for sms? Or do I need to get a different sms app?
Sorry, just got the Nexus 5 last weekend so I'm still learning everything about it.
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I agree with you. I use the textra app precisely because it doesn't go through hangouts or Google.
venelar said:
In the settings in the app just sign out. It'll be SMS only at that point.
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Exactly what I wanted, thank you!
d4ngerz said:
In 99.9999% of cases I do not want to message someone on google+. Is there anyway I can remove all the google+ integration from the hangouts messaging app and use it only for sms? Or do I need to get a different sms app?
Sorry, just got the Nexus 5 last weekend so I'm still learning everything about it.
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So you're saying there is still a chance you will?
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Just in case other people find this thread, trying to avoid all the google+ stuff, when using Hangouts for SMS, Google has since released Messenger. Seems to have a few kinks to iron out, still, but it has to be better than Hangouts. Plus, I hate having to say, "hangouts," all the time.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.messaging
The problem with signing out of hangouts is that I don't get hangouts messages from the web app. I want to receive both, just without the suggestions for messaging random google+ people as suggested by google.

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