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Hi all ...
This is my first post here and I like the whole idea of custom roms etc.
My question is the Phone button behaviour which is rather anoying, for sometime
I find myself dialing someone by mistake!
What I would like to happen is rather view the contact first and see all the
options (like phone no, e-mail addrress etc) first and decide if I want to phone, e-mail the contact instead of the dial being the default option.
I hope this makes sense, as I think there are many people who have this issue with the Phone (Dial) button ;-)
Thanks.
Owned this phone for bout a week and been constantly playing with it and love everything bout it except the phone/dialing feature....coming from a blackberry, the phone/dialing just makes sense and works. Couple gripes I'm having:
1. Speed dial, I can't by default just hit 2 or 3 but I have to click off the "X" above the number pad before I can use speed dial. If I just long press 2, it would still think i'm trying to dial out a number and not speed dial.
2. In the same "phone" screen they have recently dialed incoming/outgoing calls but it just shows a picture or no picture depending if I have them, but they don't show the numbers. I have to use the optical pad to scroll though to show the number, I can't even you my finger to swype through cause it will automatically dial the number without me knowing who i'm dialing specially if I have no picture or number.
3. The "Faves" is kinda redundant cause it shows the recently dialed people same as the "Call Log". I know you can put your favorite people on the top list but still...kinda redundant.
4. I can start dialing a users name via the dial pad and it would find the person I'm looking for, what happens when that contact has multiple numbers, if I click on the contact from what it found via dialing his name in the dial pad it would just dial the cell number; won't give me options to dial his home, work etc. Just dials the cell number by default.
This is just some of the stuff I can point out right now. But its just not very intuitive and I have to go through multiple taps just to find someone, dial someone in my contacts or know where to look before I can dial out.
If there is an app for the phone that I can use to replace the built in "phone" feature, that would be great. Just not crazy bout how the Phone feature which should be the most important feature on a "smartphone" is so poorly layed out.
Thanks for any info....
I agree the mySense phone app is not the greatest, and probably stock froyo app is bit easier to use.
What about the speed dial, you you can hit menu on your home screen, than add to home/ shortcut / direct dial - choose contact - choose phone number . It will creat a speed dial icon on the home screen. Also you can create a folder and group them, like "Work" "Family" etc.
I like the phone/contacts application much better in what Cyanogen has in his ROM. It's simple and super fast, the one included with our phone is complicated and clunky.
I need to add that to my list, not a deal breaker, but definitely needs an overhaul.
Nutzzer said:
Owned this phone for bout a week and been constantly playing with it and love everything bout it except the phone/dialing feature....coming from a blackberry, the phone/dialing just makes sense and works. Couple gripes I'm having:
1. Speed dial, I can't by default just hit 2 or 3 but I have to click off the "X" above the number pad before I can use speed dial. If I just long press 2, it would still think i'm trying to dial out a number and not speed dial.
2. In the same "phone" screen they have recently dialed incoming/outgoing calls but it just shows a picture or no picture depending if I have them, but they don't show the numbers. I have to use the optical pad to scroll though to show the number, I can't even you my finger to swype through cause it will automatically dial the number without me knowing who i'm dialing specially if I have no picture or number.
3. The "Faves" is kinda redundant cause it shows the recently dialed people same as the "Call Log". I know you can put your favorite people on the top list but still...kinda redundant.
4. I can start dialing a users name via the dial pad and it would find the person I'm looking for, what happens when that contact has multiple numbers, if I click on the contact from what it found via dialing his name in the dial pad it would just dial the cell number; won't give me options to dial his home, work etc. Just dials the cell number by default.
This is just some of the stuff I can point out right now. But its just not very intuitive and I have to go through multiple taps just to find someone, dial someone in my contacts or know where to look before I can dial out.
If there is an app for the phone that I can use to replace the built in "phone" feature, that would be great. Just not crazy bout how the Phone feature which should be the most important feature on a "smartphone" is so poorly layed out.
Thanks for any info....
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I cannot recreate any of your problems on my phone dialer.
Speed Dial can be achieved easily two different ways. In the phone app, select menu and speed dial. Add new will be at the top of the screen. Select from contacts and choose a speed dial number. Long pressing on that number, regardless of what is in the screen above (blank number or last call) will dial the contact attached to that speed dial number.
Another method is to long press on the number while editing a contact and selecting speed dial.
The 'last call' at the top of the dialer should always show at least the number,unless it was blocked.
Faves is the same as Favorites on the vanilla dialer. Put your favoite called numbers here. It is a lot quicker than using contacts. I hate the faves app but the dialer function is fine. As far as the recent calls, those are actually the most frequently called numbers and you can set that to just one by pressing menu>edit smart group and selecting the number of members.
Your number four is quite fixable. If the contact has multiple number, it will dial the Primary one, which you can choose the first time you call a contact. Alternatively, you can press on the icon on the right side that looks like a contact card. It pulls up the contact and you can select a number from there.
I prefer the vanilla or CM dialer much better myself but because CM does not have a ROM that works for me yet (the phone app does not work for me) I learned all I could about the only stock alternative.
Hope this helps.
Nutzzer said:
This is just some of the stuff I can point out right now. But its just not very intuitive and I have to go through multiple taps just to find someone, dial someone in my contacts or know where to look before I can dial out.
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Also...
To search contacts you have to tap the spyglass. WTF? Why isn't the search field just there?
Each entry in the contacts is too tall. Give me the option to make it thinner. In the taller entry, add some information, such as shown in the My contact card, the default phone # for instance.
Favs is worthless. Allow me to dump it.
In the phone, I *do* like the 'start typing out a name' but it would be nice to be able to long press to pick the #, as someone said. At least it does something useful (mostly. Add to Faves is pointless).
DO NOT always show the last caller or callee at the top. That can be nice, or it can be embarassing.
Allow me to delete all of a certain # from my call log, not just individual iterations. At least this phone doesn't redial the last # all the time like my friend's iPhone does, and my other friend's MyTouch (plain version).
However, it redials too easily. So if I talked to my folks earlier and then at night I'm getting this post ready and they are asleep and the damn thing redials, well, that's bad.
If I start tapping out a number, let me edit it, say using the trackpad. C'mon, this is obvious!
And while playing with this, it got stuck in Searching contacts. And if I want to dial a number, how do I do that? At the top, Save to People. No number displayed, no people icons. Enter name or number/Tap to see smart dial tips. WTF? Time to reboot or something.
How about a remapping genius to search (as it should have been) and long-press on search brings up phone? Or something. I hate how with a normal POS phone I can dial. With this I have to go to the home screen or unlock the screen & log in, then press a button, then finally I can call.
I use Quickdial for my contacts that I call quite a bit. Nice app and allows 36 contacts.
I personally do not like the built in dialer. It is rather clunky to use witht he buttons on the bottom and if hands are rather large, it gets tricky sometimes hitting the phone button and the call button.
Have not found a good replacement yet.
I started using "Dialer One" and I like it better than the build in dialer. Its simple and it works...not the best but better. Also, started using Google Voicemail so everything pretty much works the way its supposed to now.
This is my first Android phone, and my experience is so far ok, but kinda annoying that I need to research, investigate and try out a dialer just to make the phone work.
I also like Dialer One and use it as both a dialer and address book replacement. If you set it to show your favorite contacts on the default screen there's minimal clicking. It also supports using your background image, pretty cool.
I hate the stupid Faves feature of the phone as well. Especially for SMS. Why does it need to explicitly notify me that one of my Faves messaged me? The new message notification by itself is sufficient.
excarnate said:
And while playing with this, it got stuck in Searching contacts. And if I want to dial a number, how do I do that? At the top, Save to People. No number displayed, no people icons. Enter name or number/Tap to see smart dial tips.
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Ah joy, it seems I found a bug. I reported it to T-Mobile, they gave me a # for HTC and I'll try pursuing that (if someone has a bugreporting URL for them...). My phone is perm-rooted, I'm not running (gasp, the horrors) a task killer.
Go to Phone (home screen, press picture of phone). You should see your last call at the top.
Tap out some numbers, say 55555.
Decide you wish to edit those numbers (the 2nd 5 should be a 5) and use the trackpad to move over to the left.
Unexpected behavior: it moves to Faves, then Contacts.
OK, fine, no biggie, now use the trackpad to move back to Phone.
Bug 1: Notice there is no number displayed and it says at the top that you have matches for n of your contacts where n is the total number of your contacts. Apparently the number typed is lost. Sucks but minor.
Bug 2 (often, not always): Tap out another number. Note that often (usually for me) you can not see any number. I believe it also shows that I'm still matching all of my contacts (it isn't reproducing for me currently).
I wonder if anyone else can see this, or if my phone (or if I got confused. It happened after rebooting as well, but isn't happening now.
Ok... well I got a Samsung Focus. This is my first smartphone coming from a Pantech Pursuit, a (?) Quickfire, and an LG shine. It's absolutely amazing how fun and how great this thing is compared to those phones (although its a bit odd that some of those were more feature rich than this).
Anyway.. I have a few questions probably mostly relating to the WP7 software. If anyone can answer all or some of these.. that'd be great.
1. Not sure I full understand the start button thing. So, yes, it takes me back to the home screen. But is my previous app or page still running? For example if I'm playing a game, hit the home screen, go into another game, hit the home screen... are both of those games still running and slowing down my phone? Is it best to hit the start button when I want to end something, or is it best to hit the back button until I'm home?
2. Picture messaging. I have unlimited texts and pics with ATT. I also have data off since I'm on a limited data plan. However, it won't let me send picture messages with data off. Does it use the data connection to send pictures, but in this specific case it charges it as a picture message (free) rather than data usage?
3. Calendar. Is there a way to set tasks and stuff rather than appointments?
4. Calls. How can I look at previous call info, such as call time? It only appears to give me the call time and nothing else. Not a big deal if that's it.. but kind of weird.
5. Messaging. How can I delete all, rather than just delete a specific convo? Is there a drafts folder?
6. Pictures. Can I organize these on my phone? It says it takes down gps location, but I can't find a way to actually view that info.. do I need to upload it to skynet or something?
7. Where's a good nav?? Where's my damn update??
Thanks!
I think I have more questions but that's all I can think of for now.
1. WP7 cant mulitask atm. But it freezes the apps. Press back button to go back. But prolly wont let you start the game where you left off.
2. Yes it uses your data connection, even if its not using the same APN
3. No, but there is apps for that.
4. No you cant watch it.
5. Yes, klick to the the right corner in inbox.
6. Don't know.
7. There is non. Bing works bretty good if your account and phone is in US. Works in other countrys as well then. Need to learn to type adresses to get it right. As US user Bing will give mre buttons. And for the update, i wonder my self =D
Best regards, P. Nakazul
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Much appreciated
So in general do most people keep hitting the back button to exit all apps unless they plan on going back? It would be nice to have a dedicated end button that closes everything in one press.
And for the text messages, when I click the bottom right corner in my messaging screen, my only options are new or settings... no 'delete all'.
When you mention Bing maps... are you referring to the default app on my phone called 'Maps'?
Hitting home (windows button) is the slimmest way if you want to go back later with the use of back button. Since it freezes the app, nothing is running. And why need a close when it doesnt affect performance? So pressing back or windows button doesnt matter that much, only depending in a order to get back if you want.
And for text messages, i noticed the same. Its only in mails you can use the described by clicking on a mail to the right.
And bing maps are the maps im talking off. There are some Google choises but only as apps you have to download.
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So i havn't seen anyone else complaining about this yet but it must drive someone insane or im just way too OCD.
As seen below, when you open the dialer you are presented with Keypad/Recent/Favorites/Contacts, in that order.
When you press on Contacts, Recent is replaced by Groups (i dont like it but ok-whatever), my biggest issue is that Favorites and Contacts swap places, to me this is just insane.
As a side note, for me going from dialer to contacts takes a long time to load, i'd say about 1.5 seconds, i do have a few hundred contacts but this is also the first time ive had this issue.
Thoughts or ideas?
lol, mine never changes.
Hmm, I never noticed until you pointed that out...
It is strange that favorites and contacts swap spots. I never really noticed, because I have a contacts link on one of my home screens and when I am in the dialer I dont bother going in to contacts, I just start typing the name I want.
Strange, but not a problem for me...
I just tried going into my contacts from the dialer and it did seem to pause for a second (I have 474 contacts), but I never really notice a pause going into contacts from the home screen directly.
I actually spent a couple hours the other day weeding out my contacts on Google (via GMal). Contacts I speak to frequently are starred. Anyone else I either start typing their name or directly reply to a text or such. I went to my contacts a few different times since reading this and nothing changed.
Mine changes, just like the OP. I hate it, especially since on Froyo I had a much cleaner dialer. What I miss the most is the ability to have the dialer stay on the screen when I make calls, meaning having the option before to have it show automatic in a call, vs having to open the dialer when actually in a phone call. I have searched everywhere I can find for the option to have the dialer always open when in a call, but cat find that option. Does anyone know how to make the dialer show for every phone call, without having to select it once the call has been started. ? Thanks in advance.
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jlangleyrn said:
Mine changes, just like the OP. I hate it, especially since on Froyo I had a much cleaner dialer. What I miss the most is the ability to have the dialer stay on the screen when I make calls, meaning having the option before to have it show automatic in a call, vs having to open the dialer when actually in a phone call. I have searched everywhere I can find for the option to have the dialer always open when in a call, but cat find that option. Does anyone know how to make the dialer show for every phone call, without having to select it once the call has been started. ? Thanks in advance.
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I agree having the dialer remain up is more intuitive to me
I posted this in the AT&T S8+ Forum, figured i'd post in here too, might get faster help. I did do a couple searches before posting, but if someone has already addressed this I apologize.
Hi all, I seem to be unable to get individual text notifications working on my S8+. That is, I go into the contact, I find where it says "Message Tone" and I set the tone I'd like to use. When I go in and look, everything seems to be correct.
Then when a text comes in, the default notification is still used. This is the case when both a tone that I added is used, or a built in tone. I had thought perhaps it was because I was using a 3rd party texting app (Textra, was not a fan of the default Samsung app), but even when I reset to the Samsung messages app, this was still the case (I even tried restarting the phone after setting messages as the default, just to make sure).
Anybody else having this issue? Anybody fix it? I've tried everything I can find, hopefully one of you can point out something obvious that I've missed.
Elbimster said:
I posted this in the AT&T S8+ Forum, figured i'd post in here too, might get faster help. I did do a couple searches before posting, but if someone has already addressed this I apologize.
Hi all, I seem to be unable to get individual text notifications working on my S8+. That is, I go into the contact, I find where it says "Message Tone" and I set the tone I'd like to use. When I go in and look, everything seems to be correct.
Then when a text comes in, the default notification is still used. This is the case when both a tone that I added is used, or a built in tone. I had thought perhaps it was because I was using a 3rd party texting app (Textra, was not a fan of the default Samsung app), but even when I reset to the Samsung messages app, this was still the case (I even tried restarting the phone after setting messages as the default, just to make sure).
Anybody else having this issue? Anybody fix it? I've tried everything I can find, hopefully one of you can point out something obvious that I've missed.
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No issues here, after setting the message tone you want are you tapping save in the upper right of the screen?
ggrant3876 said:
No issues here, after setting the message tone you want are you tapping save in the upper right of the screen?
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I am. I've attached a screenshot for a contact I'm using as a test (my GVoice number). It LOOKS like it's set up correctly (at least to me) just not working correctly. Personalized Ring Tones seem to work, but not text notifications.
The phone is doing a couple other quirky things. I'm wondering if it might be time to just say "F it" and do a hard reset.
Elbimster said:
I am. I've attached a screenshot for a contact I'm using as a test (my GVoice number). It LOOKS like it's set up correctly (at least to me) just not working correctly. Personalized Ring Tones seem to work, but not text notifications.
The phone is doing a couple other quirky things. I'm wondering if it might be time to just say "F it" and do a hard reset.
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Here are the screens I get when changing a ringtone or messaging tone. Didn't get the screenshot low enough for messaging tone, it's right below ring tone.
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Here are the screens I get when changing a ringtone or messaging tone. Didn't get the screenshot low enough for messaging tone, it's right below ring tone.
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Yeah, I don't think I'm doing anything differently. Weird that ring tones work but not text messages. I had a couple different contact managers installed (don't really like the Samsung one) and thought maybe they were causing the issue, so uninstalled them and rebooted. Still no go.
I do like the look of the dark theme for the contacts app though, definitely gonna change it to that!
I also use Textra on my S8+, as I don't like the default one, and you set the personalized tones in Textra not contacts.
In Textra, go to one of the texts from someone that you want to customize and long press it, then go the three dot menu in the upper right corner and select customize. Then select Notifications, then notification sound and pick the one that you want.
Works perfectly...
larryk said:
I also use Textra on my S8+, as I don't like the default one, and you set the personalized tones in Textra not contacts.
In Textra, go to one of the texts from someone that you want to customize and long press it, then go the three dot menu in the upper right corner and select customize. Then select Notifications, then notification sound and pick the one that you want.
Works perfectly...
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:victory: The files are IN the computer!! It's so obvious!! Thanks so much, this has been driving me nuts.
Still a little weird it wouldn't work when I reset the phone to the Samsung app, but now I don't care because this works!! Thank you so much.
Sometimes it is just the little things...