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Does anyone know if the Sensation will have dual mics used for noise cancellation during calls?
I love this feature on the Nexus One. It works amazingly well. I can't see very switching to a phone that doesn't have it.
Yes it has.
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Yes it has.
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Thanks. Is there a spec sheet somewhere that shows that? How do we know this is correct?
I think that is part of the dailer/software function instead of hardware thing. So, all android phone should have that function.
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I think that is part of the dailer/software function instead of hardware thing. So, all android phone should have that function.
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it in some way has to do with hardware tho since you need 2 mics to do it
the sensation does have more than 1 mic and yes it does have noise cancelling...
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I think that is part of the dailer/software function instead of hardware thing. So, all android phone should have that function.
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No, this is a hardware function that requires two mics, as xnifex says, and a special voice processing chip made by a company called Audience.
http://www.audience.com/index.php
The Nexus One was one of the first phones to use this chip, much later the iPhone 4 adopted it, so I want to know if the Sensation is using the same audience chip technology as found in the Nexus One.
I guess we'll have to wait for iFixit to tear it apart.
Looking at my sensation, the small hole above the camera appears to be a second microphone since if you remove the cover, the area underneath it has a little rubber grommet which I normally associate with microphones...
The Doctor said:
Looking at my sensation, the small hole above the camera appears to be a second microphone since if you remove the cover, the area underneath it has a little rubber grommet which I normally associate with microphones...
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Thanks for the info. That does seem like a promising sign. Although I do know that some phones, on accasion, have had an extra mic for stereo sound or noise cancellation in video capture, but then not use the mic for calls. And that can also be separate from having the audience chip, which really does an amazing job.
But it's sounding promising so far.
Audience chip is only one way of applying noise cancellation. It could be done via different methods. And it does have two mics (it has to to record in stereo). The manual doesn't mention it but it doesn't mention many things (it's huge and detailed but then again there are SO many things to cover that to cover them all would be overwhelming for any user).
Only a proper review or one of the ones to have the phone will be able to give you a definite answer.
to answer the question with fact here is what i found while trying to solve the 1 processor theory in many of the bench marks... yes there is hardware noise cancellation
The Snapdragon chipset platform is a highly integrated, mobile optimized system on a chip that features Qualcomm?s own ARM-based microprocessor core, graphics core, rich multimedia, GPS engine and wireless connectivity. Its advanced feature set includes:
Enhanced ARM-based CPUs designed from the ground up to deliver unprecedented computing performance
Industry-leading levels of power optimization, allowing manufacturers to design slim yet powerful devices with all-day battery life
Integrated 3G mobile broadband for a rich Internet experience with full Web browsing
Integrated GPU core for accelerated 2D and 3D graphics capabilities for rich multimedia, enhanced gaming, and user interface experiences
Built-in GPS engine with standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes for access to real-time, personalized and location-aware content
High-quality, high-resolution camera, HD video record and playback, and enhanced audio with noise cancellation
Support for leading mobile OS?s such as Android®, Windows® Phone and Brew™ Mobile Platform
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Audience chip is only one way of applying noise cancellation. It could be done via different methods. And it does have two mics (it has to to record in stereo). The manual doesn't mention it but it doesn't mention many things (it's huge and detailed but then again there are SO many things to cover that to cover them all would be overwhelming for any user).
Only a proper review or one of the ones to have the phone will be able to give you a definite answer.
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Yes there are different ways to do this. Motorola has their own solution. But in my experience the audience chip is very much superior to other solutions out there. The Nexus one is just amazing, in noisy settings. And it does seem odd to me that HTC would not be promoting this feature or even mention it in the manual. This is a feature that was very much highlighted in the release of the Nexus One and the iPhone. And, again, dual mics does not necessarily mean they're being used for the calls. Still you're right that perhaps only a review will settle the matter (although I'm always astonished how superficially the question of call quality is treated in reviews, if not ignored altogether).
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High-quality, high-resolution camera, HD video record and playback, and enhanced audio with noise cancellation.
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Thanks boostedb16b for the information about the chip. To me the fact that the noise cancellation is listed as a feature in the line that's about video recording suggests, as I said, that the feature may only be there for video recording and not for calls. This is the case in some other phones, like the Nokia N8, which also uses an ARM based cpu.
So I remain hopeful, but a little skeptical of the information given so far.
Well, the Sensation is starting to get a lot of reviews now. As usual, reviewers pay almost no attention to call quality and don't make serious attempts to test it.
That said, I'm seeing contradictory information about the noise cancellation on the Sensation.
Engadget says:
Calls on the Sensation were for the most part clear and competently handled. HTC has an extra microphone on the back of the handset, whose job we presume is to analyze external noise and nullify its effects. In voice calls, the other party heard us even on a busy street where we had our own struggles keeping up with what they were saying to us.
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But, in contrast, Techradar says:
Call quality on the HTC Sensation seems to be poorer than many other phones, which is even more perplexing when there seems to a be a separate noise reduction microphone on offer above the camera.
Even in slight wind we were asked if it was really gusty where we were, and in a bar environment we were practically inaudible.
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Engadget also pointed out the wind issue, when recording video.
I don't know, that's not really sounding like the kind of noise cancellation implementation found in the Nexus One and other phones equipped with the Audience chip. Most phones I find handle street noise (as in Engadget's positive review of the noise cancellation), much better that loud bars (as in Techradar's negative review of the noise cancellation). But on the Nexus One I can be in amazingly loud enviroments (loud music, other people talking, machines operating in the background) and people don't hear anything, often thinking I'm at home.
I'm thinking perhaps HTC passed on the audience chip either as a cost cutting measure or to save space (since the Sensation is pretty compact for a 4.3" screen device).
I'm wondering, for people who have the One S, how good the noise cancellation is during calls? Does it effectively block out background noise for your caller?
I was in the T-Mobile store comparing it to my Nexus One, which uses dual mics and the Audience chip to filter background noise (see: www.audience.com/earsmart/earsmart.php).
I found that with the One S it seemed to turn off the mic when I was not talking, but background noise did bleed through when I was talking. It was not very loud in the store where I was doing the test, still background noise though faint was there. (I recorded messages to myself on my voicemail and then played them back, to do the comparison.)
In comparison the Nexus One with the Audience chip completely filters out all noise. It's as if you're in a quiet room. (The iPhone 4 and some older HTC and Samsung phones also have the Audience chip.) I'm a little baffled why newer super-phones (like the Galaxy Nexus) seem to be foregoing the superior noise cancellation offered by the Audience chip or similar technologies. As nice as the One S is, it's a little hard to stomach the idea of taking a step down in call quality, compared to my two year old Nexus One.
What are people's experiences who have the One S? Does anyone with a One S have the Nexus One or an iPhone 4 for comparison purposes? Thanks.
(By the way, I also tested the One X at a At&T store and found the noise cancellation to be of a similar okay-ish quality to the One S. I posted a thread in the One X section asking the same questions.)
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So my Nexus 5's speaker is absolute garbage compared to my Nexus 5. the range is just non-existent and it has incredibly bad distortion during phone calls, and most music and videos.
Right now i'm ready to return the phone and spend another year with my nexus 4 over it, but before i do, i'm curious to know if mine might just be defective.
So to all the other owners, do you have distortion, pops and the like when making phone calls or having any audio through and how does it compare to your previous phones, especially any other Nexus 4 owners.
Right now my N4 sounds like my $150 desktop speakers compared to the N5.
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So my Nexus 5's speaker is absolute garbage compared to my Nexus 5. the range is just non-existent and it has incredibly bad distortion during phone calls, and most music and videos.
Right now i'm ready to return the phone and spend another year with my nexus 4 over it, but before i do, i'm curious to know if mine might just be defective.
So to all the other owners, do you have distortion, pops and the like when making phone calls or having any audio through and how does it compare to your previous phones, especially any other Nexus 4 owners.
Right now my N4 sounds like my $150 desktop speakers compared to the N5.
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thats horrible, lets hope they are defective because i get my nexus 11/06 that would be a huge deal breaker if the speakers sounded like crap. coming from an htc one
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thats horrible, lets hope they are defective because i get my nexus 11/06 that would be a huge deal breaker if the speakers sounded like crap. coming from an htc one
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Yeah that's why i'm posting because i find it incredibly hard to believe that the Nexus 5, in 20 god damn 13 had worse speakers than my G1 from 2008. And just to test, i broke out my G1, MyTouch 3G and Nexus One, and played the same ringtones on each. No distortion on any device but the N5.
The Verge even said in their review that they had distortion on the speaker which almost leads me to think this is normal, and unacceptable.
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thats horrible, lets hope they are defective because i get my nexus 11/06 that would be a huge deal breaker if the speakers sounded like crap. coming from an htc one
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all reviews are saying the speaker is terrible. same with the camera. but they're comparing it to 600+ dollar phones, you get what you pay for, the bulk on the 350 dollars is going toward the processor and screen
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all reviews are saying the speaker is terrible. same with the camera. but they're comparing it to 600+ dollar phones, you get what you pay for, the bulk on the 350 dollars is going toward the processor and screen
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That is true, but my $300 Nexus 4 from a year ago sounds 100 times better than my $400 (32gb) nexus 5 from this year.
And also the whole $700/$350 thing is kinda bull****. Though that phone does cost $700 to buy, it costs the same as what a nexus costs, usually around $150-$200 to produce. Google just cuts out all the middle men and carrier BS to get the price to be that low. Yes they do make sacrifices but my damn G1 sounds better than my Nexus 5, so that has nothing to do with cost.
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So my Nexus 5's speaker is absolute garbage compared to my Nexus 5. the range is just non-existent and it has incredibly bad distortion during phone calls, and most music and videos.
Right now i'm ready to return the phone and spend another year with my nexus 4 over it, but before i do, i'm curious to know if mine might just be defective.
So to all the other owners, do you have distortion, pops and the like when making phone calls or having any audio through and how does it compare to your previous phones, especially any other Nexus 4 owners.
Right now my N4 sounds like my $150 desktop speakers compared to the N5.
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No, it's not just you, I thought it was me!
I came from an HTC One X and the call quality is terrible; a bit like what I imagine being a little bit deaf is like and when I'm playing a video or have a call on speaker, the thing buzzes and vibrates. Not good compared to my previous phone.
ugh. this isn't looking good. i really was hoping i was the only one. Hope we get a lot more replies here tonight.
Only one speaker?
On mine I noticed only one side is playing the music? anyone else?
I'm hoping it's something like a mic and speaker... and not a deffective
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On mine I noticed only one side is playing the music? anyone else?
I'm hoping it's something like a mic and speaker... and not a deffective
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thats correct. one side is the speaker and one is the mic. evidently this is normal practice on the iphone and many other devices. I just found out today.
Hows your quality though?
Two things i hear the crackle/pop on guaranteed is the ringing of a phone call and for some reason Lindsey Stirlings Crystalize, the first 30-40 seconds. lots of other examples but those two are the easiest and most noticeable i found.
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So my Nexus 5's speaker is absolute garbage compared to my Nexus 5. the range is just non-existent and it has incredibly bad distortion during phone calls, and most music and videos.
Right now i'm ready to return the phone and spend another year with my nexus 4 over it, but before i do, i'm curious to know if mine might just be defective.
So to all the other owners, do you have distortion, pops and the like when making phone calls or having any audio through and how does it compare to your previous phones, especially any other Nexus 4 owners.
Right now my N4 sounds like my $150 desktop speakers compared to the N5.
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On mine I noticed only one side is playing the music? anyone else?
I'm hoping it's something like a mic and speaker... and not a deffective
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Just got my white 32gb N5 today and indeed mine is suffering from similar issues. At first I was thinking my right speaker was DOA but I later learned it's not a speaker at all and is a mic - the N5 is a mono device. So, I played some music, an audio book and tried out some ringtones. A pop was audible on some ringtones and the audiobook. The sound gets pretty distorted when at the top two levels. I wonder if the pop is down to the audio coding because now I've downloaded higher quality files, the pop has gone away and distortion not quite as bad at high levels. Yet to try out a phone call over the speaker.
I've tested some music at 320 bit rate and hd video on youtube and the play store and same issues. and then no issues at all on the nexus 4.
Great I was so excited to purchase my first nexus phone. Ugh
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You know, I was at Pete's Coffee last night with my girlfriend and 2 people were talking next to us about this exact same issue. A man in his early 30s was talking to a buddy of his about the Nexus 5, and naturally, I zoned out from what my girlfriend had to say overheard their conversation.
They were talking about the Nexus 5 and how one of them who had the phone loved it, except he said the speaker was very poor quality.
Hopefully mine does not have this issue when it arrives this Thursday.
The Nexus 5's speaker is actually pretty darn good. Not quite HTC One level but damn close. It uses the same chip technology the HTC One has but only has a mono speaker on the bottom edge instead. It should be MUCH better than the Nexus 4, the Galaxy S4, or similar.
If it is sounding distorted, it is quite possibly a damaged speaker or chip, and should be RMA'ed. Reviews (unlike what some whacko said) have actually been pretty positive about the speaker.
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The Nexus 5's speaker is actually pretty darn good. Not quite HTC One level but damn close. It uses the same chip technology the HTC One has but only has a mono speaker on the bottom edge instead. It should be MUCH better than the Nexus 4, the Galaxy S4, or similar.
If it is sounding distorted, it is quite possibly a damaged speaker or chip, and should be RMA'ed. Reviews (unlike what some whacko said) have actually been pretty positive about the speaker.
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Your now the second person i've seen to say that it's good. How much have you tested it though? phone calls? loud movies? music?
I want to keep this phone, or at least get a replacement, but i got about 5 people with me saying they have similar issues so it's getting harder to imagine that it's a defect.
My sound is pretty faint. I'll be lucky if I hear a text or call
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I have played music from a couple different sources at full volume and I haven't heard any distortion.
I actually just watched a full review of the phone here in the General section, and he says the speaker is absolutely great! although he does not ever test in the video.
Been using mine all day. A bit of music and a fair few YouTube video and I've not noticed any problems at all. Nowhere near as loud as the Note 2 I'm coming from, but few phones are as loud as it. So far I'm happy with speaker quality
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Well since some of you do not seem to have this issue I'm going to hope those of us with it just have defective units and i'm going to exchange mine.
If the one i get has the same issues though, i'll be sticking with my Nexus 4 for another year.
Hello,
I did some reading on the Nexus 5 and most of its problems I can live with, but many people complained about bad sound quality via the headphone output.
Can you confirm or deny this? I use my phones mainly as mp3 players and therefore the sound quality is extremely important for me.
Honestly, I don't get what the fuss is all about. Perhaps I damaged my ears with loud music in my teenage years but think it sounds great (the headphone port, of course)
Plugging into the headphone jack on the Nexus 5, it actually sounds better than when plugged into my PC which has a Creative SoundBlaster Recon3D PCIe (~$150), if that says anything.
Coming from an S3 with Wolfson audio DAC (digital to analogue convertor) I think the Qualcomm DAC is substandard. I have a nice set of Audio Technica headphones, so the difference is noticeable. However, HOWEVER... I find with viper4android (which needs root) the audio quality on the n5 goes from "OK, nothing special" to "oh man, wha???" So I actually wouldn't swap it for anything right now. N5+Viper+good cans = fantastic experience
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Coming from an S3 with Wolfson audio DAC (digital to analogue convertor) I think the Qualcomm DAC is substandard. I have a nice set of Audio Technica headphones, so the difference is noticeable. However, HOWEVER... I find with viper4android (which needs root) the audio quality on the n5 goes from "OK, nothing special" to "oh man, wha???" So I actually wouldn't swap it for anything right now. N5+Viper+good cans = fantastic experience
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Yup. Viper makes all the difference.
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Yup. Viper makes all the difference.
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rootSU said:
Coming from an S3 with Wolfson audio DAC (digital to analogue convertor) I think the Qualcomm DAC is substandard. I have a nice set of Audio Technica headphones, so the difference is noticeable. However, HOWEVER... I find with viper4android (which needs root) the audio quality on the n5 goes from "OK, nothing special" to "oh man, wha???" So I actually wouldn't swap it for anything right now. N5+Viper+good cans = fantastic experience
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I am a bit skeptical about this, can software tweak really fix hardware shortcoming of the sound module?
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Honestly, I don't get what the fuss is all about. Perhaps I damaged my ears with loud music in my teenage years but think it sounds great (the headphone port, of course)
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Can you tell me which headphones are you using? Some people are so used to crappy sound quality with $5 ear buds that they can't tell the difference (no offence meant )
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I am a bit skeptical about this, can software tweak really fix hardware shortcoming of the sound module?
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Yeah.
RabbiShe said:
I am a bit skeptical about this, can software tweak really fix hardware shortcoming of the sound module?
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Yes of course. All hardware is driven by software. The fault of the sound module could be hardware, in which case software can compensate for it by re-processing the audio.. Or even add CPU processing to give more powerful hardware processing to give better audio... OR the problem is software in the first place, in which case software can replace it.
For example, you can massively increase audio quality on a PC, for any app (including spotify and other streamin services) by cutting out unecessary processes and dedicating more resources to audio processing...
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http://www.windowsxlive.net/fidelizer/
Well, i decided to order it. I hope to god i'm not making a mistake, since it has to last me for at least 5 years, before i can get a new phone. Since i'm a just a poor peasant boy, with not many ducats in his pouch.
By the way, will flashing cm12 void the phones warranty?
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Well, i decided to order it. I hope to god i'm not making a mistake, since it has to last me for at least 5 years, before i can get a new phone. Since i'm a just a poor peasant boy, with not many ducats in his pouch.
By the way, will flashing cm12 void the phones warranty?
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You wont be disappointed. Like I said, I have some reasonably expensive headphones and after Viper, its a really pleasant experience.
Depends where you bought the phone regarding warranty. If you got it directly from play store, you're fine. Buying it anywhere else, the warranty is with LG not Google. They're a bit more picky as if the tamper flag has been triggered, LG are likely to refuse warranty, whereas google themselves dont care.
Damn, i knew it.
I went to pick up my nexus 5 and then, filled with excitement and xmass cheer, unboxed it at home. The very second i placed my finger on the on/off button i knew something was horribly wrong. It rattled. Somehow, almost a year later, i still got the flawed version of the nexus 5 from the early batch, which had the rattling button, small speaker holes and all those other nasty early adopter problems. I immediately jumped into my car and returned it (managed to do it just before the store closed for holidays pheww) and now my Christmas is ruined. :crying:
RabbiShe said:
Damn, i knew it.
I went to pick up my nexus 5 and then, filled with excitement and xmass cheer, unboxed it at home. The very second i placed my finger on the on/off button i knew something was horribly wrong. It rattled. Somehow, almost a year later, i still got the flawed version of the nexus 5 from the early batch, which had the rattling button, small speaker holes and all those other nasty early adopter problems. I immediately jumped into my car and returned it (managed to do it just before the store closed for holidays pheww) and now my Christmas is ruined. :crying:
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49111828
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Damn, i knew it.
I went to pick up my nexus 5 and then, filled with excitement and xmass cheer, unboxed it at home. The very second i placed my finger on the on/off button i knew something was horribly wrong. It rattled. Somehow, almost a year later, i still got the flawed version of the nexus 5 from the early batch, which had the rattling button, small speaker holes and all those other nasty early adopter problems. I immediately jumped into my car and returned it (managed to do it just before the store closed for holidays pheww) and now my Christmas is ruined. :crying:
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This!
There is no "flawed" version. Its a cheap phone so quality control is not as strict as more premium phones. Some have big speaker holes some have little ones (and that makes no difference anyway) and some have loose buttons and some do not. Its just the way it is.
If you don't want a cheap phone, pay double and get something else
Also its worth noting that it depends how you press power buttons. If you tap it from 1 inch away, then all nexus 5 rattle. Actually in that case its the OIS in the camera rattling and not power button.
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Damn, i knew it.
I went to pick up my nexus 5 and then, filled with excitement and xmass cheer, unboxed it at home. The very second i placed my finger on the on/off button i knew something was horribly wrong. It rattled. Somehow, almost a year later, i still got the flawed version of the nexus 5 from the early batch, which had the rattling button, small speaker holes and all those other nasty early adopter problems. I immediately jumped into my car and returned it (managed to do it just before the store closed for holidays pheww) and now my Christmas is ruined. :crying:
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You've confirmed for yourself what we've been trying to tell people since December when the false rumor was started, there was no revision.
It's practically unheard of for any device to have a hardware revision only 1 month after launch, because that would mean they knew about the issue well before the launch but decided to release the defective devices anyways.
Funny enough the exact same fake rumor stuff is happening with the Nexus 9. One user compares 2 devices after an RMA and suddenly there is a "confirmed revision by HTC" rumors flying around everywhere. Hint: that didn't get a revision after only 1 month either.
We all know the HTC One M9's sound is some of the best, if not the best around. And HTC made a pretty big deal about it with the unveiling.
I was waiting for Samsung to mention the sound of the S6, but they never said a word. Sound is very important to me in a phone and a dealbreaker if it's really poor.
Does anyone know what the specs are for the onboard sound?
Not much detail has come out other than the fact that the speaker is at the bottom and I think AndroidCentral said Samsung claimed its 50% better sound than S5, then added "and we agree that it doesn't sound as terrible" (I believe source is their review preview of S6) I personally use Bluetooth LG Tone+ so I almost never have to sorry bout the onboard speaker.
it will be louder, but as all samsung phones, it will still sound like a tin can. maybe one day samsung will finnally start taking notes from HTC (and the Sony Z3) when it comes to making a phone with proper sounding speaker(s) on a $500 device+
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it will be louder, but as all samsung phones, it will still sound like a tin can. maybe one day samsung will finnally start taking notes from HTC (and the Sony Z3) when it comes to making a phone with proper sounding speaker(s) on a $500 device+
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Honestly I doubt it, I don't think people use phone speakers enough to care. Most people just use Bluetooth speakers or head phones as opposed to the device's built in speaker, probably not worth the investment for Sammy. I like the idea don't get me wrong, just don't see it happening, at least not anytime in the next couple years.
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Honestly I doubt it, I don't think people use phone speakers enough to care. Most people just use Bluetooth speakers or head phones as opposed to the device's built in speaker, probably not worth the investment for Sammy. I like the idea don't get me wrong, just don't see it happening, at least not anytime in the next couple years.
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earbuds for music, yes, but a phone is a multimedia devices (videos, movies,etc) where dual front speakers really shine..
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Let me know where you can get an S6 for $500 please !!!
I reckon Samsung didn't mention it because they know it's something they won't beat HTC on with their current design structure.
Until you see two large speaker grilles on Samsung's devices like HTC's, there won't be any competition on that front. Software tricks only go so far.
Now what they could (and should) potentially look into is making a spectacle of the devices' abilities when it comes to headphone usage. That's something that they can make their mark with without the necessity of altering their more "form meets function" design style as opposed to HTC's more "function over form" style.
HTC boomsound speakers blew on my m7, several times. The m8 sounded good, but it doesn't justify such a terribly long phone with a 5" screen. That bezel is worse than iPhone bezels.
It's ugly. If the trade off for better speakers equals that design, then no way.
Missed the OP's question and just took it as a chance to complain about Samsung.. (tft)
Seriously. What are these HTC fan/Samsung hater people even doing here???
TO the OP.
I haven't seen the specs anywhere yet.
Note 4 Exynos had the Wolfson DAC. We can hope the premium S6 will get the same attention.
Most don't have a good enough system hooked up to the device to even notice the on board differences so I'm not sure it really matters.
Those that do have a good system probably aren't using a phone, as is through the headphone jack are they?
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Thanks.
Massive difference in speaker from S5 to S6...
It has a WolfsonMicro WM1840 sound chip.
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It has a WolfsonMicro WM1840 sound chip.
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Is that good?
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Missed the OP's question and just took it as a chance to complain about Samsung.. (tft)
Seriously. What are these HTC fan/Samsung hater people even doing here???
TO the OP.
I haven't seen the specs anywhere yet.
Note 4 Exynos had the Wolfson DAC. We can hope the premium S6 will get the same attention.
Most don't have a good enough system hooked up to the device to even notice the on board differences so I'm not sure it really matters.
Those that do have a good system probably aren't using a phone, as is through the headphone jack are they?
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it's called opinions, and everyone is entitled to have one. i have owned 3 galaxies since the s2, so i am aware of how crappy sounding samsung speakers have always been. it's fact that sony, htc, and hell, even apple have better sounding phones. it has sh*t to do with being a htc or Sony fanboy..
the s6 finally has improvement in sound, but nothing to brag about when comparing to other phones on the market.
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yeah but i think thats for the headphone jack only, the wolfson DAC is the best out of all the devices out there