In the online help for the Nexus 5 -- and I've seen this for other devices as well -- they say "Use only the travel adapter and micro USB cable that come with your Nexus 5. Using a different travel adapter or cable may damage your phone."
How realistic is this anyway? Is this just CYA verbage? I have a number of chargers that I use in different places, including of course one that works in the car, and have never had a problem.
rochrunner said:
In the online help for the Nexus 5 -- and I've seen this for other devices as well -- they say "Use only the travel adapter and micro USB cable that come with your Nexus 5. Using a different travel adapter or cable may damage your phone."
How realistic is this anyway? Is this just CYA verbage? I have a number of chargers that I use in different places, including of course one that works in the car, and have never had a problem.
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This is CYA verbage. Cables are cables. Although not all chargers and cables are created equally. I monitor the voltage and amperage on my chargers when I first get them to make sure everything is working properly.
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Hi all,
Has anybody got any of these? I have my old diamond 2 htc car charger and would like to be able to use it on the desire via an adapter. I understand most adapters only support charging?
Please post your experiences with any you have tried.
Thank you
The adapters shouldn't be a problem. They should have a full set of pins. Some cables only have the pins that are used for power.
BTW - someone is likely to ask why you are syncing your handset with your car cigarette lighter
indyjonesUK said:
Hi all,
Has anybody got any of these? I have my old diamond 2 htc car charger and would like to be able to use it on the desire via an adapter. I understand most adapters only support charging?
Please post your experiences with any you have tried.
Thank you
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i've bought some mini to micro usb adapters and they are great for charnging and sync as well. they are made in germany, delock is the manufacturer.
Have a look at my post in, "Not a Standard Micro USB power cable"
There is an adapter available from CPC in Preston (Mail order available, but don't know how much they charge) and also a couple of USB -> Micro USB leads available from them.
Also available, from Maplin is a 'micro' cigarette lighter to USB Adaptor to plug into your car which is quite a bit smaller and sleeker-looking than the one I currently use. For £5.99 it seems a reasonable deal.
bcmobile said:
The adapters shouldn't be a problem. They should have a full set of pins. Some cables only have the pins that are used for power.
BTW - someone is likely to ask why you are syncing your handset with your car cigarette lighter
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i sincerely had to laugh at that comment
I bought a couple of cheap generic USB cables, one a retractable micro USB job and the other a standard USB that splits to both a mini and micro USB at the other end.
Both cables charge my phone just fine, but the phone doesn't register either cable as a data connection and no notification comes up.
Is the micro USB cable that comes with the phone industry standard, and if so does this mean that my generic cables are likely to be just off spec enough in some way that the phone doesn't register them?
Strange thing is that the mini USB end of the split cable seem to work on other things like cameras and other phones. I'm confuzzled.
when plugging in cable did you activate usb mount in the notification bar
i bought a mini to micro converter as I still have quite a few devices that need mini and thought I could save on convenience by just carrying round the adapter and plugging into existing computer cables and chargers I have around the house, car and work - Same thing with that power only, no data.
Got it from ebay some of the listings on there state "power only", still dont understand why, it cant be much more expensive to wire all 4 pins. As micro is becoming the standard.....
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when plugging in cable did you activate usb mount in the notification bar
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That's the problem, I plug the cable into the N1, but don't get a notification, no tone, nothing to suggest that the phone sees the cable as a data cable at all.
I'm guessing that if the phone doesn't think it is a data cable there is no way to persuade it otherwise.
There's essentially 2 types of cables: Charge-only or Sync & Charge. This is true for the adapters as well.
It seems you folks mistakenly bought the Charge-only cable/adapter.
After some research, I found this cable (it's blackberry branded, but works 100% with my N1 for Sync and Charge):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001UC9NOQ/ref=oss_product
It's cheap ($3 shipped), it's made by a trusted brand (Blackberry) and the actual cable is rather thickly insulated so it's durable too.
Read the user reviews, especially the guy with the high helpful votes count, for more details about charge-only and sync-n-charge cables.
Just tried both cables on a Nokia E623, and they both worked fine first time, charging and data.
Now it' looking like there is something slightly odd (or perfectly on spec) about the female Micro USB plug on the N1. Perhaps they are just made to only accept male plugs that exactly meet standard specs, and if a plug is out slightly in say it's contact positions or sizes the N1 won't detect it.
Anyone got any ideas?
Hi all,
Does anyone know where I can find the original Google provided USB C to A cable adaptor that comes in the box with the Nexus 6p? I'm not looking for a longer one as that one worked perfectly for my needs. I haven't seen it anywhere online, not even at the Google Store.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
This isn't the OEM cable, but it's a 1.5 foot cable from MonoPrice
https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030319&p_id=13813&seq=1&format=2
For the price, you're probably better off getting a 3 or 6 foot cable to keep around in the event you don't have access to a USB C charger if you are not at home or something.
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-iOran...&qid=1452093431&sr=8-1&keywords=iorange+usb+c
This one was also cleared by the Google person who tests all the cables
krolla03 said:
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-iOran...&qid=1452093431&sr=8-1&keywords=iorange+usb+c
This one was also cleared by the Google person who tests all the cables
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I have this cable in white/silver. It's a nice cable, but it's 6 feet long.
The google engineer benson had approved some complaint type c to a cables on his amazon profile.
I've been looking for a short one as well, but I haven't seen anything less than 0.5m so far.
Disclaimer: I was given these items at a large discount for my honest and unbiased feedback/review.
Dash Micro G3 Type-C MicroSD Card Reader:
The Dash Micro is made using an aluminum casing that has a nice solid feel to it. It is compact enough to fit in an included silicon key chain so you won’t lose it while on the go. I’ve used this with my Nexus 6P since it was first released, and I haven’t had any issues with it fitting my cases so far. I primarily use my larger Speck Candyshell case on my Nexus 6P, and the Dash Micro fits perfectly without forcing in it. The microSD card slot is spring loaded so popping a card out is a breeze. You do need to use your finger nail to push it in, but that’s still better than physically pulling it out. Meenova claims this will read cards up to 200GB which I verified with my Sandisk 200GB microSD card that I have. They also said it will fit cases that are up to 3mm thick which is the large majority of them. I have no complaints with the solid build and overall feel of the card reader.
I like the included keychain/holder which is offered in other colors if you break yours. I haven’t seen any issues with my other G3 Micro that is on my keyring along with my Yubi key, and other small things. I have 2 of these card readers now, so I keep one in my car, and one at home. I have a dash camera in my car that uses microSD cards, so it’s nice to be able to replay the video on my phone so I don’t have to do it on the small screen of my dash camera. My Nexus 6P always recognizes the card read the first time and doesn’t try to charge it like some other accessories I’ve used in the past.
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Multimeter:
Since the first issues with Type-C cables/adapters arose I have been using a multimeter to check all of my A-C cables even if they are already ‘approved’ by Benson Leung or other people. It never hurts to verify things for yourself rather than ruin your phone or in some cases a Pixel Book due to faulty cables. These can hopefully be mitigated through the use of a multimeter like this one.
The device itself is about the size of a large flash (slightly bigger) featuring 2 input ports to, and it plugs directly into your charger. I like how you can see inside the multimeter through its dark grey clear plastic casing. I’m not sure how durable this device will be given it’s build, but I haven’t seen any issues so far. I used my other multimeter to verify readings using different cables with my Nexus 6P and S7 Edge all of which were consistent. The multimeter can only handle up to 9V, so if you want to use it on devices that support QC 3.0 or even some QC 2.0 in the future be it might not work. I have yet to see a phone charge at 12V, but I do have a battery pack that charged at 12V, so I can’t check the current using this mutlimeter without risking it failing. I would have liked it to support the higher voltages like my other one does, but that’s fine because I can use this one for my Nexus 6P, and the other one to check my QC enabled devices. Overall I’m happy with this little device, and I’m sure it will get used frequently just like my other one.
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MicroUSB-C OTG Adapter:
I own a few different sets of these MicroUSB-C OTG adapters from different companies including Techmatte, Tronsmart, and now Meenova. The Meenova is the only one of them that’s made out of aluminum despite being fairly large compared to the other two. Like the Dash Micro this adapter is made out of aluminum giving it the best feel out of all 3. I tested the adapter with one of my microUSB OTG flash drives which worked flawlessly as expected despite looking funny due to the adapter & flash drives combined lengths.
Next, I wanted to verify that the correct resistor was used in this adapter due to earlier issues with companies not using the proper one. I plugged it into my Meenova/Tronsmart multimeters along with a short cable, and it showed the phone pulling the proper current. Now, before you go charging your device with these adapters Benson Leung has shed some more light on their approved uses. According to Benson Leung (https://twitter.com/Laughing_Man/status/692931998218895360) the host should never use an adapter for anything other than OTG i.e. it should not be used for charging. I know many people still use them for charging, but it’s good to know they aren’t intended for that. Overall this is still a great adapter that does what it says by providing OTG support to your Nexus 6P/Type-C device. It is my understanding that other MicroUSB-C adapters don’t work with OTG which I’ll have to verify with my other two when I get home today.
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I don't see how those are USB OTG adapters... What would you plug in!? I don't have anything with a microusb end besides a cable.....
I suppose a microusb flash drive, but, meh.
Great reviews though. thanks
apristel said:
I don't see how those are USB OTG adapters... What would you plug in!? I don't have anything with a microusb end besides a cable.....
I suppose a microusb flash drive, but, meh.
Great reviews though. thanks
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That's what Benson Leung said as you can see form the linked conversation he had with an Arstechnica writer. It still works to charge just fine, but that's apparently not what they're supposed to be used for
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I actually talked to Benson. Type c doesn't have otg adapters anymore.. They are USB legacy adapters. I'll post up the conversation. Guy is super smart.
apristel said:
I don't see how those are USB OTG adapters... What would you plug in!? I don't have anything with a microusb end besides a cable.....
I suppose a microusb flash drive, but, meh.
Great reviews though. thanks
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I have a set of Z:ero earbuds with a builtin DAC.
Other DACs.
Not a lot of used but the earbuds was the one that had me go out and buy this.
Without it I had a jumble of cables and adapters to have my earbuds work.
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I actually talked to Benson. Type c doesn't have otg adapters anymore.. They are USB legacy adapters. I'll post up the conversation. Guy is super smart.
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I would appreciate that. There seems to be a lot of misinformation floating around and I don't want to mislead anyone.
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I would appreciate that. There seems to be a lot of misinformation floating around and I don't want to mislead anyone.
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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-...I/AAAAAAAAZrM/aiR9nWm6Atk/s512/2016-03-07.jpg
Benson Leung
Hi. That looks awful. I can't figure out what that does.
Benson, thanks for the USB c reviews. Wondering if you have reviewed and type c otg cables; specifically ones w power pass through? much thanks
Benson Leung
power pass through is not possible.
at least for Nexus 6P and Nexus 5X
Well that's good for now, I have the 6p
Benson Leung
for Pixel C, Chromebook Pixel, MacBook and other devices that support USB Type-C and USB PD, there are charge through hubs that can fast charge the laptops and tablets
also if you have Microsoft Lumia 950 phone, that supports PD as well
those devices allow the phone to swap data and power roles separately
the dongle you pointed to is a bad idea
the MacBook, for example, has an accessory that allows it to have an extra USB Type-A port and an HDMI port but still charge the laptop.
that hub is a USB PD charge through hub.
but it won't work with Nexus because Nexus doesn't support PD.
Perfect. I guess a regular otg cable will suffice. I figured I'd ask the one person who's know. Thank you very much for your time. I've made purchases based on your recommendations
Have you reviewed otg cables?
Benson Leung
there is no such thing as 'otg' for USB Type-C
the On The Go spec doesn't apply to Type-C
instead you have something called 'Legacy Device Adapter' cables
Ahh. Makes sense.
Benson Leung
which has Type-C plug on one side and a Type-A receptacle on the other
OTG is dead. it was bad to begin with, i'm glad it's superceded
Agreed. I will make sure to pass the knowledge on. Thank you again.
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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tOC26Yav_LM/Vt5lbaVxjDI/AAAAAAAAZrM/aiR9nWm6Atk/s512/2016-03-07.jpg
Benson Leung
Hi. That looks awful. I can't figure out what that does.
Benson, thanks for the USB c reviews. Wondering if you have reviewed and type c otg cables; specifically ones w power pass through? much thanks
Benson Leung
power pass through is not possible.
at least for Nexus 6P and Nexus 5X
Well that's good for now, I have the 6p
Benson Leung
for Pixel C, Chromebook Pixel, MacBook and other devices that support USB Type-C and USB PD, there are charge through hubs that can fast charge the laptops and tablets
also if you have Microsoft Lumia 950 phone, that supports PD as well
those devices allow the phone to swap data and power roles separately
the dongle you pointed to is a bad idea
the MacBook, for example, has an accessory that allows it to have an extra USB Type-A port and an HDMI port but still charge the laptop.
that hub is a USB PD charge through hub.
but it won't work with Nexus because Nexus doesn't support PD.
Perfect. I guess a regular otg cable will suffice. I figured I'd ask the one person who's know. Thank you very much for your time. I've made purchases based on your recommendations
Have you reviewed otg cables?
Benson Leung
there is no such thing as 'otg' for USB Type-C
the On The Go spec doesn't apply to Type-C
instead you have something called 'Legacy Device Adapter' cables
Ahh. Makes sense.
Benson Leung
which has Type-C plug on one side and a Type-A receptacle on the other
OTG is dead. it was bad to begin with, i'm glad it's superceded
Agreed. I will make sure to pass the knowledge on. Thank you again.
Mar 7, 11:44 PM
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That seems like he's referring to something that is against spec that he wrote about on his G+ page. You can't have a Type-C to female A adapter (see below), maybe it was just the way he worded it. I assume he's not referring to the link I posted below but rather it's inverse. I don't see any mention of micro USB like the reference I posted, so I'm still left here a little confused.
https://plus.google.com/collection/s0Inv
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It was a USB OTG cable with power passthru. Either way, USB OTG isn't a thing anymore with Type C. I have the little type C to micro usb adapters, they however are not USB OTG adapters as they say in your pictures. They are merely USB type c - microusb adapters.
The one i linked to in the beginning of the chat was this: (i'm not sure if that link worked or not) http://usbfever.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=77_316&products_id=2759 - What I thought was a USB OTG with power passthrough.... Something I used with my Nexus 6 and a portable HDD that required more power.
So wtf is this?
http://www.amazon.com/Adapter-RAVPower-Convertor-MacBook-Devices/dp/B017XARUKC
I bought it, and it doesnt work attaching usb thumbdrives to my 6P.
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So wtf is this?
http://www.amazon.com/Adapter-RAVPower-Convertor-MacBook-Devices/dp/B017XARUKC
I bought it, and it doesnt work attaching usb thumbdrives to my 6P.
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That isn't what this OP is about, so please stay on topic
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Disclaimer: I was given these items at a large discount for my honest and unbiased feedback/review.
Dash Micro G3 Type-C MicroSD Card Reader:
The Dash Micro is made using an aluminum casing that has a nice solid feel to it. It is compact enough to fit in an included silicon key chain so you won’t lose it while on the go. I’ve used this with my Nexus 6P since it was first released, and I haven’t had any issues with it fitting my cases so far. I primarily use my larger Speck Candyshell case on my Nexus 6P, and the Dash Micro fits perfectly without forcing in it. The microSD card slot is spring loaded so popping a card out is a breeze. You do need to use your finger nail to push it in, but that’s still better than physically pulling it out. Meenova claims this will read cards up to 200GB which I verified with my Sandisk 200GB microSD card that I have. They also said it will fit cases that are up to 3mm thick which is the large majority of them. I have no complaints with the solid build and overall feel of the card reader.
I like the included keychain/holder which is offered in other colors if you break yours. I haven’t seen any issues with my other G3 Micro that is on my keyring along with my Yubi key, and other small things. I have 2 of these card readers now, so I keep one in my car, and one at home. I have a dash camera in my car that uses microSD cards, so it’s nice to be able to replay the video on my phone so I don’t have to do it on the small screen of my dash camera. My Nexus 6P always recognizes the card read the first time and doesn’t try to charge it like some other accessories I’ve used in the past.
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Multimeter:
Since the first issues with Type-C cables/adapters arose I have been using a multimeter to check all of my A-C cables even if they are already ‘approved’ by Benson Leung or other people. It never hurts to verify things for yourself rather than ruin your phone or in some cases a Pixel Book due to faulty cables. These can hopefully be mitigated through the use of a multimeter like this one.
The device itself is about the size of a large flash (slightly bigger) featuring 2 input ports to, and it plugs directly into your charger. I like how you can see inside the multimeter through its dark grey clear plastic casing. I’m not sure how durable this device will be given it’s build, but I haven’t seen any issues so far. I used my other multimeter to verify readings using different cables with my Nexus 6P and S7 Edge all of which were consistent. The multimeter can only handle up to 9V, so if you want to use it on devices that support QC 3.0 or even some QC 2.0 in the future be it might not work. I have yet to see a phone charge at 12V, but I do have a battery pack that charged at 12V, so I can’t check the current using this mutlimeter without risking it failing. I would have liked it to support the higher voltages like my other one does, but that’s fine because I can use this one for my Nexus 6P, and the other one to check my QC enabled devices. Overall I’m happy with this little device, and I’m sure it will get used frequently just like my other one.
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MicroUSB-C OTG Adapter:
I own a few different sets of these MicroUSB-C OTG adapters from different companies including Techmatte, Tronsmart, and now Meenova. The Meenova is the only one of them that’s made out of aluminum despite being fairly large compared to the other two. Like the Dash Micro this adapter is made out of aluminum giving it the best feel out of all 3. I tested the adapter with one of my microUSB OTG flash drives which worked flawlessly as expected despite looking funny due to the adapter & flash drives combined lengths.
Next, I wanted to verify that the correct resistor was used in this adapter due to earlier issues with companies not using the proper one. I plugged it into my Meenova/Tronsmart multimeters along with a short cable, and it showed the phone pulling the proper current. Now, before you go charging your device with these adapters Benson Leung has shed some more light on their approved uses. According to Benson Leung (https://twitter.com/Laughing_Man/status/692931998218895360) the host should never use an adapter for anything other than OTG i.e. it should not be used for charging. I know many people still use them for charging, but it’s good to know they aren’t intended for that. Overall this is still a great adapter that does what it says by providing OTG support to your Nexus 6P/Type-C device. It is my understanding that other MicroUSB-C adapters don’t work with OTG which I’ll have to verify with my other two when I get home today.
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thanks bro just ordered the Dash Micro G3 Type-C MicroSD Card Reader as I have been struggling to find one that fits my speck case.
zanoli99 said:
thanks bro just ordered the Dash Micro G3 Type-C MicroSD Card Reader as I have been struggling to find one that fits my speck case.
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Not a problem, but please don't quote the whole OP with true pictures if you have any other questions let me know. I have 18 cases I can test it on
Not all usb-c cables are created the same. Benson Leung at Google has reviewed numerous cables, and there are quite a few non-compliant cables. These cables can result in weird, or even dangerous behavior.
Recommended USB Type-C Legacy Cables: https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/KF89JCHI0KT4/ref=pdp_new_wl (Benson's Amazon Profile)
You guys can also follow his Google+: https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts
If you don't want to risk anything make sure you always use the compliant cables/adapters
Do we get USB 2.0 or 3.0?? I don't know what cable to get (I am in Europe if that will make a difference with model and such).
Need long 2ft 3ft cables
good quality
notefreak said:
Do we get USB 2.0 or 3.0?? I don't know what cable to get (I am in Europe if that will make a difference with model and such).
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Snapdragon Note 7 Variants have USB Type C with USB 3.1.
Exynos Note 7 Variants have USB Type C with USB 2.0
Thanks for this thread. I plan on keeping the original cables wrapped for whenever I sell the phone, so this thread helps with good alternatives.
What about adapters? I just bought these hoping they will work fine. Planning to use my existing cables and will be keeping one in my keychain for when I'm at a place where there's only micro usb.
https://www.amazon.com/TechMatte-Co...g_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=JR7G4JED2T52MKNCM388
If I only want to use them for charging does it matter which one I get? I'll just use the original samsung one for data transfer at home but I need charging cables for my office and car.
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hackdrag0n said:
If I only want to use them for charging does it matter which one I get? I'll just use the original samsung one for data transfer at home but I need charging cables for my office and car.
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USB C TO A Adapter:https://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-Adapter-Samsung-ChromeBook-Approved/dp/B018S827GU
C TO A Cable:https://www.amazon.com/iOrange-E-Br...&qid=1471915209&sr=8-23&keywords=c+to+a+cable