[Q] Cleanup of internal memory - General Questions and Answers

Alright I'll explain a bit my case.
At CM10 I had no problem with internal memory, I had around 200-170mb free with all my must-have apps, and even other ones I think. I switched to CM10.1, most precisely, to besttt's Slim Bean, as @mikeioannina said, it's just not necessary to wipe /data at any moment, (see this wiki article) so yeah, to update from like.. Slim Bean 7 to SB8, I just wipe /system (even when it's said not to), cache and dalvik. Even after removing a LOT of system apps (over 15), including the google search one (QuickSearchBox.apk) my phone displays a total of 64 megabytes free, with all the SD card apps moved to SD card.
I am experiencing the problems in having low internal storage, such as this problem. I haven't been able to update whatsapp or download any other app, not even BBM that is 13mb, it just won't let me install due to "insufficent storage available", even when I have enough room for both apps.
What do I think that happens? I guess there are some leftovers from previous ROM(s) in /data, and I wanted to know how to clean properly my /data/, or well just entirely my internal storage WITHOUT having to:
Having to reinstall ROM
Wiping the whole /data
Doing a factory reset
Having to redownload ALL my apps again
as I see the procedures listed above unnecessary at my case.
EDIT:I also did a sum of what my apps weigh in Settings>Apps and gave this result (approximate), not exceeding the 200mb, just as it was at CM10.
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EDIT2 The sum of all the apps that were at Settings>Apps>All, I mean, these:
(I have more space free because deleted the YouTube app, it's still really low)
and it gave me an approximate of 240mb, being used by all of those apps, where's my 160mb left of free storage?
Best regards~

No one? This took me a bit of effort..

They may say that it is not necessary, however the best way to do things is always to do a full wipe before installing or updating any ROM. This is especially useful if you encounter problems like this. Yes, it is indeed time consuming and tedious to redownload the apps and restore the save data, but this is the best way to ensure that the installation or update went well. It is to also prevent leftover data from messing up with the ROM installation.
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I think that the dalvik uses around 60-100 MB depending on how much apps you have, and its not showed. Apps like Link2sd tell you that it can move the dalvik to the sd, but if you make a wipe from the cwm the dalvik is created in the phone memory again. At least that is what happen to me.
By the way, you could also erase the apps before you install a rom, delete them from the zip. Just be aware of which ones are important to the system. Maybe you gain some free MB

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[Q] Cache and Dalvik Cache?

What are they?
How does clearing them affect the device?
Dalvik Cache is a program cache area for the program dalvik. Dalvik is a java based virtual machine that is the bases for running your programs (the ones that have the .apk extension). In order to make access times faster (because there's not JIT (just in time) compiler installed by default), the dalvik-cache is the result of dalvik doing a optimization of the running program. Sounds confusing. It's similar to the prefetch files in Windows.
A cached file is a mechanism for the temporary storage (caching) of web documents, such as HTML pages and images, to reduce bandwidth usage, server load, and perceived lag. A cached file stores copies of documents passing through it; subsequent requests may be satisfied from the cache if certain conditions are met.
The cached files are stored in the phone built-in memory, and sometimes can take a lot of storage space.
PlusAndroid said:
Dalvik Cache is a program cache area for the program dalvik. Dalvik is a java based virtual machine that is the bases for running your programs (the ones that have the .apk extension). In order to make access times faster (because there's not JIT (just in time) compiler installed by default), the dalvik-cache is the result of dalvik doing a optimization of the running program. Sounds confusing. It's similar to the prefetch files in Windows.
A cached file is a mechanism for the temporary storage (caching) of web documents, such as HTML pages and images, to reduce bandwidth usage, server load, and perceived lag. A cached file stores copies of documents passing through it; subsequent requests may be satisfied from the cache if certain conditions are met.
The cached files are stored in the phone built-in memory, and sometimes can take a lot of storage space.
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Wow my thread's got a reply after 3 long months.
I had searched after that.
Anyway thanks for the effort man. Thanks. (clicked).
ggclanlord said:
Wow my thread's got a reply after 3 long months.
I had searched after that.
Anyway thanks for the effort man. Thanks. (clicked).
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Lol. Nice1 Mod.

Filling up of internal storage

Some how i have completely filled up the internal storage of my phone and i can't seem to be able to make room . I have a 32 gig sd card an it is hardly getting used. All my apps are bricking when i try to access them as well
So i decided to go into odin mode an just install a fresh image of the root66 file. I did the data wipe an factory reset before i installed the root66 image, an after all was said an done, now my internal storage is still full with only 300mb of free space left.
When you go to Settings-->Storage, what category takes up the most space under 'Device Memory'? For me, it's the 'Miscellaneous Files' section which includes my nandroid backups, wallpapers and other flashable zips.
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When you go to Settings-->Storage, what category takes up the most space under 'Device Memory'? For me, it's the 'Miscellaneous Files' section which includes my nandroid backups, wallpapers and other flashable zips.
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Same here, misc files was like 75% of my storage usage. I definately hate the way the sd card is configured on this phone
Really weard look this, is showing me only 3Gb but on grafic look more
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I'm not sure if this helps but when I connect my phone to my Mac and delete a folder from the phone, the free space on the phone does not correspondingly increase until I've emptied the trash on my Mac. If you did something like that, then the space you would recover by deleting something is probably still held up by the .trash on your computer. This is, of course, assuming you use a Mac. And this entire post is just a shot in the dark as I haven't seen or experienced something like this before.
As for Juan's graphic and size calculation mismatch -- that is weird!!
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I'm not sure if this helps but when I connect my phone to my Mac and delete a folder from the phone, the free space on the phone does not correspondingly increase until I've emptied the trash on my Mac. If you did something like that, then the space you would recover by deleting something is probably still held up by the .trash on your computer. This is, of course, assuming you use a Mac. And this entire post is just a shot in the dark as I haven't seen or experienced something like this before.
As for Juan's graphic and size calculation mismatch -- that is weird!!
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I've noticed on my last phone, that when you delete an app it doesn't delete any of its data. So after a week of trying out big games I noticed that I had no room left. Got an app to search and found it still had the 1 - 3 gig data files for every game/app.
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I'm not sure if this helps but when I connect my phone to my Mac and delete a folder from the phone, the free space on the phone does not correspondingly increase until I've emptied the trash on my Mac. If you did something like that, then the space you would recover by deleting something is probably still held up by the .trash on your computer. This is, of course, assuming you use a Mac. And this entire post is just a shot in the dark as I haven't seen or experienced something like this before.
As for Juan's graphic and size calculation mismatch -- that is weird!!
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actually im using Mac hahaha, the only problem that i see is that after move my self to CM10 my phone wont connect to my Mac unless i go back to stock let me check and i let you know if something happen

Salvage internal memory?

Today I got an idea: move my pictures and videos to /tmp, so I can salvage a lot of free space
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. I only use about 1.x GB for apps
Is this a good idea, is it safe?
Will the system sometime clean up that dir?
PhoenixNghi said:
Today I got an idea: move my pictures and videos to /tmp, so I can salvage a lot of free space
. I only use about 1.x GB for apps
Is this a good idea, is it safe?
Will the system sometime clean up that dir?
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Bad idea!
/tmp is cleared on every reboot.
If you want to use the internal storage, then use root explorer or similar and create a dir in /data and call it pics or something then store them there. The issue will be though that most gallery apps do not work with internal storage, you will not be able to look at them on the phone.
I don't get why everyone really wants to use the internal apps storage for personal storage, the issue is that any internal storage gets wiped on either a reboot if it is /tmp or if it is /data then a factory reset will wipe it.
Just go get a class 4 32GB sdcard for pocket change now, and be done with it.
Just my two cents, pence, etc...
Yes, I agree. 32 gigs are very cheap these days. If you look for a deal, you could get one for as low as 10 bucks. I've got one and I'm not close to filling it up.
WORD JIM!!! I DONT KNOW WHAT ID DO WITHOUT MINE!!
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I'm gonna be hard headed and try this 64GB MicroSDXC out......
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313310
Since I created the topic, my files in /tmp have not been deleted.
Not really about the sdcard, it's about doing some tricks against the system
Furthermore, QuickPic loads images and vids in internal mem faster than my sdcard.

Low storage space

"There is not enough storage space available to complete this action. Please clear some space and try again"
I have like 2GB free on both the external SD and internal storage. Does anyone know why this is happening? And how to fix it?
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The space on your device is divided in different parts:
System
Data(for your apps)
Storage
The space you're probably talking about is the space left on your Storage part(where it also saves your photos/videos/music etc.). If you go into:
settings -> applications -> manage applications
You see a bar at the bottom of your screen which indicates how much application storage(the 'data part') you have left.
A way to solve this, is by clearing all the caches of the applications you have installed(there are apps on the Google Play Store that can do this for you) or delete applications that you hardly/don't use anymore.
B1nny said:
The space on your device is divided in different parts:
System
Data(for your apps)
Storage
The space you're probably talking about is the space left on your Storage part(where it also saves your photos/videos/music etc.). If you go into:
settings -> applications -> manage applications
You see a bar at the bottom of your screen which indicates how much application storage(the 'data part') you have left.
A way to solve this, is by clearing all the caches of the applications you have installed(there are apps on the Google Play Store that can do this for you) or delete applications that you hardly/don't use anymore.
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I am getting this message more and more often. I did use an app to clear application cache but that didn't do any good.
Im using JellyShot 2.6 and the error appears even after clean installation (full wipe, dalvik, cache, system, data). More often it appears when I use my phone as mass storage and transferring files. It's annoying really.
Use link2SD and partition your SD card. I did mine and got 1gb of internal memory
Found the cause!
Dear friend,
I have had the same issue, and wanted to find the why.
So I have used Titanium Backup's "freeze" function to find WHO.
After 30 minutes of freezing and defrosting I have found the cause!
It is an app that tries to access the SD card before it is actually mounted.
This app is VIBER. Try to freeze it and you will not have this message, useless and annoying message.
Sure it is a bug.
I will try something to overcome this problem, then I will post again.
Thank you for inspiration!
I have just transferred Viber to SD.
Now this message does not annoy me anymore, but I'm testing if viber works well on SD also.
Viber issue
Unfortunately Viber do not works in SD card before opening it.
So we have 2 choices:
1. Open viber manually after every restart
2. Watching its message everytime we boot the phone
If people @Viber will work on this there would be a third option...
Update
And now, after moving Viber back to internal memory... the message does not appear anymore!

Including SD Data as Internal space?

Hi
My phone keeps saying its full. Its not. Going through my installed apps it just doesn't amount to around 12GB.
Checking the properties of the Android folder including data and obb only amounts to 5GB.
It seems the phone thinks files in Pocket Casts on the SD and other SD based files like Here Maps data reside on the internal when they dont!
Anyone clarify this or figure out a fix?
Update: deleting app data of Pocket Casts and Here Maps didn't change anything..
There's still something not right as I went through and checked folder sizes of everything on internal and give or tale a MB here and there, there's nothing else other than the 5.1GB of data. Where is the other 5GB??
Do you happen to have Google Play Music downloaded locally and saved to SD?
Indeed I do...
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Clear that cache and stored music. Use Google MusicManager for PC to download your music, that way you will not reach your 2 download limit, as it does not count against that limit according to Google when using the manager.
That way you can copy that music to your SD card and it will be in MP3 format.
No, that's not the issue. It only had 40MB of data. I'm literally stumped as to where this hidden few gigs are!
Highlighting all files including hidden on Windows or with File Commander on the phone only shows 3.9GB, but the phone thinks 9GB is used!
One of my work mates had something similar, was told to factory reset and start again and it did actually fix the problem
Did you try the clear cache option in storage settings? It clears for all apps.
Yes. Cleared everything. No joy. Factory reset in the end and that sorted it as its now back as it was with 7GB free. Assume it may have been some oddity from flashing UK generic over O2 rom? Only thing I can think it was.
Ah I didn't see you replied to this. Anyway, I noticed that Google play music does a funny thing where if you have saved music (not cached music) stored on the external SD, the space counts against your internal SD as well. Again, this is not cached music, but music that you've indicated you want saved to device.

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