Those who have T-Mobile (which I use) or any other IP probably get throttled on a daily basis and the only way I could counter this is to use a VPN called Private Internet Access at privateinternetaccess.com and works flawlessly. Also your internet use is completely encrypted so they can't track what you are doing which causes the throttling on popular sites like YouTube, Hulu, Facebook, and others. Very cheap as well for 35 bucks a year. They don't store your uses ether so nothing can come back to you if you are a torrent user like me (no logging). Works great on my G2 via app from play store made by them. Also can change location and can be used on your PC as well (multiple devices).
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I wouldn't be so sure man.... All a vpn does is hide what you're doing from the websites or anywhere that sees your ip..
The isp still sees the data going out
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Like if I post an illegal video on YouTube and I wanna hide myself, I'll use a vpn.... So YouTube sees a spoofed location, however the data going from me through my isp is still there
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or https:// add secure layer socket to your URL and u be good lol
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or https:// add secure layer socket to your URL and u be good lol
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LIES!!! i paid the 40 bucks for the service and i got ****.... still slow!
Can you please explain how do you set it up to my private access as I am new on vpn
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I have unlimited data for tmo, so i wouldnt need this? ?
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They don't throttle you if you haven't hit your data limit. Even if they did, using a vpn would only disguise the type of traffic you were engaged in, but not the frequency of traffic which leads to the throttle (when you run out of data) in the first place.
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Guys he's talking about packet shaping and QOS, not bandwidth caps.
I used about 40 gb of data in 20 days. 20 bucks for unlimited isnt bad imo
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ILLHYHL said:
I used about 40 gb of data in 20 days. 20 bucks for unlimited isnt bad imo
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Guys he's talking about packet shaping and QOS, not bandwidth caps.
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They don't throttle you if you haven't hit your data limit. Even if they did, using a vpn would only disguise the type of traffic you were engaged in, but not the frequency of traffic which leads to the throttle (when you run out of data) in the first place.
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I have unlimited data for tmo, so i wouldnt need this? ?
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Can you please explain how do you set it up to my private access as I am new on vpn
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LIES!!! i paid the 40 bucks for the service and i got ****.... still slow!
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I agree with you.
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I wouldn't be so sure man.... All a vpn does is hide what you're doing from the websites or anywhere that sees your ip..
The isp still sees the data going out
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Like if I post an illegal video on YouTube and I wanna hide myself, I'll use a vpn.... So YouTube sees a spoofed location, however the data going from me through my isp is still there
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Mainly talking about how even if you have "truly unlimited" they manage your speeds depending on what you are searching on the web
That's different than deliberately throttling your connection.
This also explains why my Google play downloads seem to just crawl...
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TehJorge said:
Those who have T-Mobile (which I use) or any other IP probably get throttled on a daily basis and the only way I could counter this is to use a VPN called Private Internet Access at privateinternetaccess.com and works flawlessly. Also your internet use is completely encrypted so they can't track what you are doing which causes the throttling on popular sites like YouTube, Hulu, Facebook, and others. Very cheap as well for 35 bucks a year. They don't store your uses ether so nothing can come back to you if you are a torrent user like me (no logging). Works great on my G2 via app from play store made by them. Also can change location and can be used on your PC as well (multiple devices).
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Are you a sales rep for privateinternetacess.com? That would explain alot lol
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Are you a sales rep for privateinternetacess.com? That would explain alot lol
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Honestly just spreading the good word. It pains me the most that they throttle based on what you are searching for. Been battling this for a long while now and found a simple answer that everyone can use virtually. Believe what you want, just trying to help my fellow G2 brother'n
This makes absolutely no sense. Private vpns have their uses but avoiding throttling wouldn't be one of them. Masking tethering would be one, but not throttling. Your data usage still meters through their servers.
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This makes absolutely no sense. Private vpns have their uses but avoiding throttling wouldn't be one of them. Masking tethering would be one, but not throttling. Your data usage still meters through their servers.
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This makes absolutely no sense. Private vpns have their uses but avoiding throttling wouldn't be one of them. Masking tethering would be one, but not throttling. Your data usage still meters through their servers.
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This makes absolute sense. I know many ISPs are known for shaping and throttling traffic from video services so when you connect to, lets say, Youtube, they will lower your speed automatically. When you are connected to a VPN, the traffic that your ISP sees comes from one IP address, which is not an IP that gets throttled. If your ISP inspects packets instead of just throttling certain IP ranges then you can also avoid throttling by using VPN with encryption. In this case, they have a choice of whether to leave encrypted traffic unthrottled or throttle everything that goes through encrypted. They can't throttle encrypted traffic because they would lose every corporate customer if they did. This obviously doesn't apply to throttling that gets applied after you go above your monthly cap because in this case they just throttle everything.
I had this with Skype before. My ISP would block the usage of Skype and other VoIP apps if I didn't pay extra for that feature. I just got a VPN with encryption and Skype was working perfectly. As an additional bonus all the video websites were unthrottled and pictures stopped being heavily compressed on every webpage I visited.
TL;DR whatever traffic shaping/throttling/blocking policy your ISP has, you can avoid it by using a VPN.
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Honestly just spreading the good word. It pains me the most that they throttle based on what you are searching for. Been battling this for a long while now and found a simple answer that everyone can use virtually. Believe what you want, just trying to help my fellow G2 brother'n
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Do you have any proof that T-Mobile is throttling based on what you're doing apart from just saying it?
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Do you have any proof that T-Mobile is throttling based on what you're doing apart from just saying it?
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I have never experienced anything of this sort, this is blatantly a shameless sales plug. T-Mobile's network is absolutely top notch in the US and the LTE speeds are basically double Sprint, Verizon and AT&T. Hilariously, T-Mobile's LTE here is faster than any available residential connections. I've downloaded 100mb apps of the Play Store at 3+mb/s while my Comcast with Steam usually does around 2.3mb/s and less than 2mb/s for anything else.
They might possibly throttle Youtube or Netflix in specific but being streaming services they don't require more than 1mb/s anyways thus it would only be beneficial in all ways possible for T-Mobile to shape that traffic.
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I have never experienced anything of this sort, this is blatantly a shameless sales plug. T-Mobile's network is absolutely top notch in the US and the LTE speeds are basically double Sprint, Verizon and AT&T. Hilariously, T-Mobile's LTE here is faster than any available residential connections. I've downloaded 100mb apps of the Play Store at 3+mb/s while my Comcast with Steam usually does around 2.3mb/s and less than 2mb/s for anything else.
They might possibly throttle Youtube or Netflix in specific but being streaming services they don't require more than 1mb/s anyways thus it would only be beneficial in all ways possible for T-Mobile to shape that traffic.
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i doubt very seriously Tmobile doubles ATT speeds...Verizon? Maybe..Hands down ATT data trumps all..I know this and I'm on Verizon
Sprint gets around 20mbps usually on their LTE they just put in a few months ago, they only have small 1 mile coverage areas in each of the cities here. Verizon has it all throughout but only get upper 20's low 30's. AT&T gets the same as Verizon basically which is what T-Mobile's HSPA± networks have got for a couple years. I get high 40's to just 50mbps on T-Mobile. Verizon/AT&T plans suck unless you are grandfathered in which blatantly doesn't count as being good.
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T-Mobile is lie about their internet unlimited. After use 5GB the the internet are slow down and reset by them you can't use it no more any idea? What about their commercial that truly unlimited internet. But what a lie?
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yeah, only unlm in terms of no overage. Word is a ten gig plan is coming soon tho
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T-Mobile is lie about their internet unlimited. After use 5GB the the internet are slow down and reset by them you can't use it no more any idea? What about their commercial that truly unlimited internet. But what a lie?
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Technically it's not a lie. They do not limit the maximum amount of data you can use via the HSPA towers. However after 5Gb of data they throttle you back, as the person above me mentioned.
But it's not a lie, not a false advertising move, but it is very shady IMHO.
Well sprint have a truly unlimited internet. I have them before. I use over 20gb a month and never slow down or cut off. The only thing I don't like is not GSM. Only CDMA networking.
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Well sprint have a truly unlimited internet. I have them before. I use over 20gb a month and never slow down or cut off. The only thing I don't like is not GSM. Only CDMA networking.
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One of the few downfalls of T-Mo. I just use my Wifi at the house so i don't touch 5Gb when i use it [wifi] but it's nothing for me to rack up 8-12GB off of it.
I have a no contract T-Mobile plan and buy web day passes... I use over 5 gigs a day sometimes.. no differences in speed other than coverage
just curious, but what are you guys viewing/downloading that gets you to 5 gigs a day? That sounds crazy to me. Wouldn't WIFI be better for that anyway? Or a computer?
Obviously downloading and streaming "videos" or (pr0n).
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There is nothing you can do as they throttle you because technically they can and will sharp you traffic for heavy usage. As we discussed this long ago since 2004 we do have the technology in place to determine what you use your service based on the SPI/DPI capabilities on the server. At this point they just have QoS based policy in place which just changes your provision rate. Be thankful they are not disabling any service based on the user agent or injecting data stream on the transport layer.
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Obviously downloading and streaming "videos" or (pr0n).
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I love how everyone instantly assumes pornographic material.
Before i got my Wi-Fi installed at my house i used my phone frequently to tether. And with having 1 [Linux] Netbook, 2 iPod touches, and a tablet i can chew through some data.
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just curious, but what are you guys viewing/downloading that gets you to 5 gigs a day? That sounds crazy to me. Wouldn't WIFI be better for that anyway? Or a computer?
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I download games, music, files from XDA, movies all while at work when its during the downtime. no computers around there, but I do use wifi when I get home. all those files add up quickly
I know alot of people that tether and do their DL'ing (Whatever it may be).
I recently signed up for an unlimited everything $79.99 plan, I noticed the "small print" now says 2GB of full 4G before throttling might begin.
I deleted the contents of the "throttle" folder and write protected it. Has anyone heard of this yet ?
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I know alot of people that tether and do their DL'ing (Whatever it may be).
I recently signed up for an unlimited everything $79.99 plan, I noticed the "small print" now says 2GB of full 4G before throttling might begin.
I deleted the contents of the "throttle" folder and write protected it. Has anyone heard of this yet ?
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Say what? What do you mean you deleted the contents of throttle folder and write protected it?
i believe it was in the data/system folder (use root explorer, or the like).
You do understand that the soft-cap that is placed under account is throttling the provision rate of users from the server itself. As the data is not allocated in your device which would be subjected to alteration. Unless you mean a dir was created after you were placed on 128kbps.
A friend recommended it to me, is it a waste of time ?
Why is there a "throttle" folder ?
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A friend recommended it to me, is it a waste of time ?
Why is there a "throttle" folder ?
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I see, I just checked the location and found the folder also. Now if it makes you feel any better I don't use more than 200mb/month and I also have it. As the throttle happens on TMo's server so yeah its a complete waste of time. But however you can change the APN setting thats all ill tell you as I won't actually give you the meth which can cause it to be shutdown and for few folks its work around. I tested it back in 5-6months ago as I downloaded like 2.1-2.2gb porno on and applied it and it worked.
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I see, I just checked the location and found the folder also. Now if it makes you feel any better I don't use more than 200mb/month and I also have it. As the throttle happens on TMo's server so yeah its a complete waste of time. But however you can change the APN setting thats all ill tell you as I won't actually give you the meth which can cause it to be shutdown and for few folks its work around. I tested it back in 5-6months ago as I downloaded like 2.1-2.2gb porno on and applied it and it worked.
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A patch was applied and fixed that method on January 21st of this year.
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A patch was applied and fixed that method on January 21st of this year.
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That patch does not work. I go over my gb cap every month. This billing cycle twice in one month. I get throttled every single time and that was with patch on. Some times right after 5gb and some times they let me slide a few 1-3gb more. But I always get throttled no matter what.
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That patch does not work. I go over my gb cap every month. This billing cycle twice in one month. I get throttled every single time and that was with patch on. Some times right after 5gb and some times they let me slide a few 1-3gb more. But I always get throttled no matter what.
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I think you misunderstood me...
T-Mobile released a patch to fix the 'work-around'.
http://arstechnica.com/#!/gadgets/n...tethering-customers-may-violate-fcc-rules.ars
I'm at work and cannot confirm that vzw is now redirecting all 3rd party teathering apps to its sign-up page for teathering. Can anyone confirm this?
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not sure if you're refering to just wireless or all tethering, but PDA Net still works just fine.
Funny that the article discusses a "jailbroken" Droid X and pictures and iphone.
Nevertheless, this is why I decided to pay for unlimited tethering, no more looking over my shoulder. With my wife's discount on service it was a great deal.
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Meh, let them try. I tethered all weekend driving from DC to Philedelphia and back
There is absolutely no way they can call tethering a provided "service" beyond simply providing data to the phones. What we do with that data is none of their dam business. If you are forced into a tiered data plan, it should not be up to them how you may use that limited data. If you want to tether and use your whole allowance on day one of the month, that should be your right.
No issues. Its working fine on mine.
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my "jailbroken" Thunderbolt is in tethercity with no concerns.
in fact, that's how I'm posting this.
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Good luck trying to block it. They can request the apps removed from market. We'll just download them elsewhere. They should be spending their energy on something more customer friendly, and stop trying to punish people.
Ita impossivle for verizon to determine if u are downloading bigass files on ur phone or through thetering.
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Ita impossivle for verizon to determine if u are downloading bigass files on ur phone or through thetering.
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To them it doesn't matter. If you're downloading 80GB+ per month, which some are, you're abusing the network.
They'll more than likely develop a throttling system for extreme users. It's not fair for them to suck up all of my bandwidth if they're too cheap to pay for regular internet or the hotspot feature.
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I had heard with LTE they have more control over the network and would actually be able to tell if it was your phone or if it was a PC attached to the network through tethering.
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I had heard with LTE they have more control over the network and would actually be able to tell if it was your phone or if it was a PC attached to the network through tethering.
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They will never be able to tell those things unless inspecting your packets.....which is an obvious violation of privacy
Using Barnacle and traveling around the country at the moment, no issues here.
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I had heard with LTE they have more control over the network and would actually be able to tell if it was your phone or if it was a PC attached to the network through tethering.
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they can tell, but apparently its a PIA to do it. I would expect for unlimited users to start getting throttled if they use a huge amount of data (which is already in your contract).
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They will never be able to tell those things unless inspecting your packets.....which is an obvious violation of privacy
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umm, they are providing the data. Good luck winning a lawsuit saying they didn't have the right to verify you weren't breaking the TOS.
As far as the OP, I really think they got confused. AT&T can tell if you are tethering your iphone using the mifi cydia program. Apparently the program tells at&t that its tethering. But isn't that the dev that apple hired anyways so he probably added that on purpose?
There's no way to tell what "kind" of data is being used other than what the phone reports. On my Dinc, it was the ol' "dun" fix. I don't use it enough anymore to justify the extra expense, considering how many free WiFi locations are available. Also, I rarely even use my laptop anymore, I do 99% of my browsing from my phone.
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To them it doesn't matter. If you're downloading 80GB+ per month, which some are, you're abusing the network.
They'll more than likely develop a throttling system for extreme users. It's not fair for them to suck up all of my bandwidth if they're too cheap to pay for regular internet or the hotspot feature.
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They already throttle too users. No one is Sucking up your bandwidth either. I was sold an unlimited data plan and they gladly took my money.
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They already throttle too users. No one is Sucking up your bandwidth either. I was sold an unlimited data plan and they gladly took my money.
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You were sold an unlimited data plan for phone data, with the condition that the top 5% of bandwidth users could be throttled. Read your contract.
This isn't news.... We've known about this for months....
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Funny that the article discusses a "jailbroken" Droid X and pictures and iphone.
Nevertheless, this is why I decided to pay for unlimited tethering, no more looking over my shoulder. With my wife's discount on service it was a great deal.
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Me too, same as you. Except for the wifey thing.
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They already throttle too users. No one is Sucking up your bandwidth either. I was sold an unlimited data plan and they gladly took my money.
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It's semantics. From a technical point of view there's no such thing as unlimited data. Multiply the download speed times the number of hours in a month and that's the theoretical limit. Of course, no one can go the full download speed all the time. It's just not possible.
What you get promised is that they won't cut you off at a specific number of bytes. However, unlike cable companies, I haven't seen any phone carrier advertise or even mention the download speed. They can't. Unlike your cable modem, your phone moves around.
So, not having promised any kind of speed performance it's easy for them to just slow you down if you eat too many bytes.
And, as an "average" user I'm THRILLED that they throttle the heavy users. I don't want to be on a network that averages 500kbps because there are hundreds of people in my cell eating up the bandwidth all the time.
Could Verizon choose to throttle only your upload speeds and leave your download speeds alone?
Reason I ask is I'm consistently getting the same horrible speeds on uploading while depending on what part of town I'm in my download speeds double.
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Could Verizon choose to throttle only your upload speeds and leave your download speeds alone?
Reason I ask is I'm consistently getting the same horrible speeds on uploading while depending on what part of town I'm in my download speeds double.
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I have read that two years ago that if people use to much data they could throttle the down/upload speeds yet I still use about 7GB of data a month and nothing ever happen to my speeds. Maybe you have software related issues, but doubt it since you said that the other part of town it's better. So probably just a bad connection or network. Maybe Verizon is upgrading..you never know. Compare with some of your friends network speeds. (same network obviously)
EDIT: I google-d outage of verizon and well this probably happened multiple places. http://www.milfordlive.com/2012/09/04/verizon-outages-caused-by-roof-leak/
I know they can throttle, but can they just do one or the other? Up or down? I'm over 90gb for this month and about half of that is uploading so I'm wondering since 40gb of uploading is an extraordinary amount to upload if they throttled just that.
And I'm nowhere near Delaware I'm in New Hampshire.
Yeah... I'd say 40GB is an extraordinary amount to upload.
Of course they can choose to throttle one or the other. They have complete control. I don't see why they would though, I'd assume they'd just lock someone down entirely if they wanted to.
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Yeah... I'd say 40GB is an extraordinary amount to upload.
Of course they can choose to throttle one or the other. They have complete control. I don't see why they would though, I'd assume they'd just lock someone down entirely if they wanted to.
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I guess that's more what I meant, would they just do one or both. Thank you
HOLY....90Gb?? what in the world are you downloading/uploading? lol WOOWWW
I'm sure they could throttle just upload, but in that case it would be everywhere for you not just at home.
Wish i still had my unlimited data now i only got 2gb
I was told be Verizon their network didn't throttle anymore because their network could handle the traffic.
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I was told be Verizon their network didn't throttle anymore because their network could handle the traffic.
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I was told the locked bootloader was to protect the network.
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I was told the locked bootloader was to protect the network.
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LOL :highfive:
What's more likely is they are limiting upstream traffic overall. This is common, and why you'll see plans which offer 10mbs down and 1.5Mbs up or something. For the vast majority of people on their phones or home PC's they do far more downloading than uploading, and these operations use the same pipes, so they will limit traffic going out of their data centers so they have more capacity for incoming data.
Same with wireless. Whether you're pulling data down or sending it, you're using the same bandwidth. Most of the time you're sending short requests, or maybe uploading a few pictures, not running a server on your phone. VZW is going to want more capacity for users to download than to upload.
At around 50/50 with those types of amounts of data you're definitely an outlier.
Hi, I'm with three's "the one plan" that includes unlimited data and tethering. I'm using this as a substitute for my home broadband, I get around 20Mb/s for the first couple of hours I tether, but after a while my speeds are greatly throttled down to around 1.5Mb/s the second I enable tethering. Is there any way I can stop the throttling? It is really furstrating, thanks. I heard that xenonHD rom has a 3g speedhack that can bypass it?
No such thing as they are just throttling you based on the amount of data you've downloaded i'm sure. So after X amount of time they slow you down. Simple as that.
What about mobile providers that don't let you torrent at all, is there any way to work around that? Because as soon as you try and download a torrent it just sits and and doesn't do anything.
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No such thing as they are just throttling you based on the amount of data you've downloaded i'm sure. So after X amount of time they slow you down. Simple as that.
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That can't be the case though; if I restart my phone or toggle aeroplane mode then my speeds got back up to 20Mb/s and remain at that until I enable tethering again, then my speed drops again.
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What about mobile providers that don't let you torrent at all, is there any way to work around that? Because as soon as you try and download a torrent it just sits and and doesn't do anything.
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VPN...
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That can't be the case though; if I restart my phone or toggle aeroplane mode then my speeds got back up to 20Mb/s and remain at that until I enable tethering again, then my speed drops again.
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Because the provider limits your tethering speed exactly for that reason, your trying to replace something like cable Internet with mobile data which would never work.
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Because the provider limits your tethering speed exactly for that reason, your trying to replace something like cable Internet with mobile data which would never work.
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I don't think they do limit tethering speeds, because I can get a solid 20Mb/s on tethering for the first few hours, then it gets throttled.
Get a home connection then the problem solved.
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Hi, I'm with three's "the one plan" that includes unlimited data and tethering. I'm using this as a substitute for my home broadband, I get around 20Mb/s for the first couple of hours I tether, but after a while my speeds are greatly throttled down to around 1.5Mb/s the second I enable tethering. Is there any way I can stop the throttling? It is really furstrating, thanks. I heard that xenonHD rom has a 3g speedhack that can bypass it?
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Sprint does not throttle you, i download like 100 gigabytes every month and never complain
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Hi, I'm with three's "the one plan" that includes unlimited data and tethering. I'm using this as a substitute for my home broadband, I get around 20Mb/s for the first couple of hours I tether, but after a while my speeds are greatly throttled down to around 1.5Mb/s the second I enable tethering. Is there any way I can stop the throttling? It is really furstrating, thanks. I heard that xenonHD rom has a 3g speedhack that can bypass it?
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And there's your problem. Mobile Internet is meant to supplement your broadband connection, not replace it. Just imagine what would happen if everybody ditched their home cable Internet connection and relied on their cellular service provider to consume all that data with their desktop/laptop. The networks would be overloaded, no one would be able to download or upload anything. That's why cellular providers have such stringent bandwidth caps on data and especially tethering. They're just not equipped to handle all of that traffic.
I think in Kitkat tethering can be detected by the service provider if used from android tether option. Try using 3rd party apps like easy tether or clockworkmod tether
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I think in Kitkat tethering can be detected by the service provider if used from android tether option. Try using 3rd party apps like easy tether or clockworkmod tether
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Yeah that's what I was thinking, but I couldn't fins any third parry tethering apps that were any good, I'll give them ones you mentioned a try when I get home.
The reason I'm using 3g as my home broadband is because I live in the country side where I'm paying over twice as much for 2Mb/s broadband, when I could get 20Mb/s
nexus_roadhouse said:
Hi, I'm with three's "the one plan" that includes unlimited data and tethering. I'm using this as a substitute for my home broadband, I get around 20Mb/s for the first couple of hours I tether, but after a while my speeds are greatly throttled down to around 1.5Mb/s the second I enable tethering. Is there any way I can stop the throttling? It is really furstrating, thanks. I heard that xenonHD rom has a 3g speedhack that can bypass it?
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Not sure, but this thread appears to be pertinent.
Three's T&C's don't mention anything unless you get near 1000GB a month...
http://www.three.co.uk/Privacy_Cookies/Terms_Conditions?site=d&content_aid=1220469566802
I'd speak to them and ask them what's going on
EddyOS said:
Three's T&C's don't mention anything unless you get near 1000GB a month...
http://www.three.co.uk/Privacy_Cookies/Terms_Conditions?site=d&content_aid=1220469566802
I'd speak to them and ask them what's going on
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I contacted them a couple of days ago and they said their technical department will ring me back but i keep missing their call, I managed to catch them at lunch today and told them to call me back around 5pm, i'll see what they say.
http://support.three.co.uk/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBISAPI.DLL?Command=New,Kb=Mobile,Ts=Mobile,T=Article,varset_cat=signal,varset_subcat=3804,Case=obj(4046)
thecircuitbox said:
http://support.three.co.uk/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBISAPI.DLL?Command=New,Kb=Mobile,Ts=Mobile,T=Article,varset_cat=signal,varset_subcat=3804,Case=obj(4046)
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I spoke to three technical support on the phone and he said I'm not being throttled and there is no fault with the network he also said that "three do not throttle the speed of any users". So I don't know what the issue is, I'm running cataclysm ROM and elemental x kernel, do you think this has anything to do with it?
Stock has the throttle thing in data usage.
thecircuitbox said:
Stock has the throttle thing in data usage.
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Do you mean the "set mobile data limit"? If so i've always had that turned off. If you didn't mean that please could you elaborate?
I flashed my nexus back to stock image a couple of days ago but this hasn't fixed anything, still pulling my hair out here!
Yeah, the "set mobile data limit".
So, today I woke up to a lovely text from T-Mobile warning that I have concealed tether usage data. The transcript of the text follows:
T-Mobile said:
The plan for line XXXXXXXXXX on your account includes unlimited 4G LTE data on-smartphone only. It also comes with up to 7GB of 4G LTE data for Smartphone Mobile HotSpot to share your phone's internet with other devices. T-Mobile's systems have detected that this line has actively used methods that conceal Smartphone Mobile Hotspot usage and, as a result, significantly exceeded the 7GB limit on its plan. This activity violates our Terms and Conditions. To enforce our Terms and Conditions and protect the network experience for all our customers, continued violation will result in the line being ineligible for its current plan and moving to our 1GB limited 4G LTE plan. Details at http://t-mo.co/1J4PTjw
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Regarding my tethering usage, I've only used a good 2GB extra than the mobile Hotspot allows. So, their idea of significantly exceeded seems pretty strict. So, even if you don't think you fall into the "percentile" of that one person using 2TB, to T-Mobile, you do. I'd still like to see them try to move me down to a lower plan though. I'll just leave and go to something like sprint.
So, I recommend being extremely careful. I have no idea how they detected it, but they are.
So what method did you use to tether?
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charlieb620 said:
So what method did you use to tether?
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Both. For the first 3gb I used the method I posted. For the rest I switched to your method because I wanted wifi calling and volte.
I guess Legere meant what he said.
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Eratrion said:
Both. For the first 3gb I used the method I posted. For the rest I switched to your method because I wanted wifi calling and volte.
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What is both methods used?
loonie01 said:
What is both methods used?
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As in both methods that are currently posted under T-Mobile Note 5 Android development. The one posted by me, then the one posted by charlie.
I guess I'll wait and see what happens to me.
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Personally I don't care, I think it's stealing anyways.
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Unlimited is unlimited.. Period. Don't name it unlimited if it's a cap.
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charlieb620 said:
Unlimited is unlimited.. Period. Don't name it unlimited if it's a cap.
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How do you not understand that you signed an agreement that states it's unlimited for that device. Routing additional devices/traffic through your authorized device isn't covered. They've gifted you 7gb of usage for additional devices. You are unlimited, on your authorized device.
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arcanexvi said:
How do you not understand that you signed an agreement that states it's unlimited for that device. Routing additional devices/traffic through your authorized device isn't covered. They've gifted you 7gb of usage for additional devices. You are unlimited, on your authorized device.
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It's not a gift. I'm paying for it.
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Unlimited data is the same as, "freedom of speech but watch what you say".
speedy1979 said:
Unlimited data is the same as, "freedom of speech but watch what you say".
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So true. Legere is stupid....just wait till the FCC goes after his ass
I wouldn't say it's "stealing" but I could agree to abuse. Yes you are paying for unlimited data for mobile use but not tethering. It's in their terms and conditions. I think it's similar to all you can eat buffet. You are paying for unlimited food for yourself not your family, not for take home. Let's say a restaurant says you can share your meal with one other person but limited to 2 servings, and your other person decided to get 20 servings.
You dont agree with it, dont do it, simple as that.
I've used a VPN on my laptop while tethering. So far so good.
Eratrion said:
So, today I woke up to a lovely text from T-Mobile warning that I have concealed tether usage data. The transcript of the text follows:
Regarding my tethering usage, I've only used a good 2GB extra than the mobile Hotspot allows. So, their idea of significantly exceeded seems pretty strict. So, even if you don't think you fall into the "percentile" of that one person using 2TB, to T-Mobile, you do. I'd still like to see them try to move me down to a lower plan though. I'll just leave and go to something like sprint.
So, I recommend being extremely careful. I have no idea how they detected it, but they are.
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So I'm curious on what method did they use to detect your case.
Does you/anyone know if the 7GB limit on tethering data is a hard limit, as in it cuts off after that? Or does it degrade to limited speed as the other data plans cap?
Could it be related to you using any services on your desktop easily identifiable as such ? (e.g. browser agent headers, but could be others)?
rodrigofd said:
So I'm curious on what method did they use to detect your case.
Does you/anyone know if the 7GB limit on tethering data is a hard limit, as in it cuts off after that? Or does it degrade to limited speed as the other data plans cap?
Could it be related to you using any services on your desktop easily identifiable as such ? (e.g. browser agent headers, but could be others)?
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As far as I know, they don't stop it. One of the lines on my plan is unrooted & has been using the stock tethering built into her Galaxy S5 & they have never stopped her. But I got the text also about her tethering too much. Seems like they should shut it off after you reach the 7GB limit. She got to 10GB without warning or stoppage or even slowing her down.
Beast84 said:
As far as I know, they don't stop it. One of the lines on my plan is unrooted & has been using the stock tethering built into her Galaxy S5 & they have never stopped her. But I got the text also about her tethering too much. Seems like they should shut it off after you reach the 7GB limit. She got to 10GB without warning or stoppage or even slowing her down.
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It use to stop but they have recently start to slow it down. I understand why T-mobile is doing it. I mean how can you continue to offer unlimited while people are abusing it for more than what you want to allow. Can't say I didn't see it coming. At the end of the day their a business and their in the business of making money.
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buzzy3970 said:
It use to stop but they have recently start to slow it down. I understand why T-mobile is doing it. I mean how can you continue to offer unlimited while people are abusing it for more than what you want to allow. Can't say I didn't see it coming. At the end of the day their a business and their in the business of making money.
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I understand this & I do agree also. I just think it's weird that they didn't slow her down. I have 3 lines, 2 rooted. Hers is the one not rooted, using stock tethering methods. Just seems strange to me that they deemed her usage to be deceiving when she is one of the least technical people I know. She wouldn't know the first thing to rooting & hiding tethering usage