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I really like the phone and think the screen is fine in most areas...but it's very yellow. The whites aren't really whites and, compared to my HTC One, the difference is striking. Yes, I know the One has an extremely cold screen while the Nexus has a warm screen, but there has to be a happy medium here, right? I think this is clearly just a calibration problem that can be fixed with a software tweak, so does anyone have any ideas? It's literally the only thing I'm not happy about.
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I really like the phone and think the screen is fine in most areas...but it's very yellow. The whites aren't really whites and, compared to my HTC One, the difference is striking. Yes, I know the One has an extremely cold screen while the Nexus has a warm screen, but there has to be a happy medium here, right? I think this is clearly just a calibration problem that can be fixed with a software tweak, so does anyone have any ideas? It's literally the only thing I'm not happy about.
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Maybe it can be adjusted for in software, but I don't believe this is just a calibration issue. I also don't think it's color temp, precisely, because that should be either bluish cold or reddish warm, not urine yellow (sorry, best way to describe it). I've seen this on many devices over the last few years, from ASUS Transformers to iPads to the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10. The only device I've bought where I didn't have at least one with a yellow screen was my Nexus 4, and I'm pretty sure I was just lucky the first time out--plenty of people complained about this on their Nexus 4s.
I think it's some kind of manufacturing variability, with the intended design specs (and software calibration) to have truer whites and deeper colors (washed out UI colors go along with the yellow tint). Personally, I can't accept it--the problem also shows itself as a lack of contrast in UI elements, such as the browser address bar against the background gray, or text fields in Hangouts. On the yellowish displays, there's almost no contrast, and so the fields can actually be hard to make out sometimes.
Thing is, if you never have two devices to hold side-by-side, then you may never notice the issue. You'll just think that colors are washed out, because that's more obvious by itself than the off-color whites.
I went through four iPad 3s before getting one with true whites, and more Nexus 7s and Nexus 10s than I'll admit to. I just hate it, personally, and honestly the Nexus 5 hasn't been so great so far that I'll go through the same number to get one that's acceptable. I have a replacement on its way (my audio output is also a bit distorted), and if that one's the same then I might give up on this year's Nexus and get an LG G2 instead.
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Maybe it can be adjusted for in software, but I don't believe this is just a calibration issue. I also don't think it's color temp, precisely, because that should be either bluish cold or reddish warm, not urine yellow (sorry, best way to describe it). I've seen this on many devices over the last few years, from ASUS Transformers to iPads to the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10. The only device I've bought where I didn't have at least one with a yellow screen was my Nexus 4, and I'm pretty sure I was just lucky the first time out--plenty of people complained about this on their Nexus 4s.
I think it's some kind of manufacturing variability, with the intended design specs (and software calibration) to have truer whites and deeper colors (washed out UI colors go along with the yellow tint). Personally, I can't accept it--the problem also shows itself as a lack of contrast in UI elements, such as the browser address bar against the background gray, or text fields in Hangouts. On the yellowish displays, there's almost no contrast, and so the fields can actually be hard to make out sometimes.
Thing is, if you never have two devices to hold side-by-side, then you may never notice the issue. You'll just think that colors are washed out, because that's more obvious by itself than the off-color whites.
I went through four iPad 3s before getting one with true whites, and more Nexus 7s and Nexus 10s than I'll admit to. I just hate it, personally, and honestly the Nexus 5 hasn't been so great so far that I'll go through the same number to get one that's acceptable. I have a replacement on its way (my audio output is also a bit distorted), and if that one's the same then I might give up on this year's Nexus and get an LG G2 instead.
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Interesting. Yesterday I was actually angry and posted the phone on Swappa. Today I've been much nicer toward the subject. But if it's really due to the manufacturing process, I might just swap it for a Moto X. Either way, I'm not sure. I still need to decide.
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Interesting. Yesterday I was actually angry and posted the phone on Swappa. Today I've been much nicer toward the subject. But if it's really due to the manufacturing process, I might just swap it for a Moto X. Either way, I'm not sure. I still need to decide.
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Best thing would be to wait for the dev's and see what they come up with. They did great with the N4, so I'm hoping it'll be the same on the N5. I do think the display is incredibly warm. Having it side by side with my N4 is striking.
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Maybe it can be adjusted for in software, but I don't believe this is just a calibration issue. I also don't think it's color temp, precisely, because that should be either bluish cold or reddish warm, not urine yellow (sorry, best way to describe it)
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A warm white balance is yellowish not red. At low levels my N5 is massively warm next to my N4
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A warm white balance is yellowish not red. At low levels my N5 is massively warm next to my N4
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Yes, thanks, you're right--color temp does go through yellow as it gets warmer before getting to red. So, thanks for the correction.
That said, it's not a _consistent_ thing, or at least hasn't been in the past with other devices. I have a Nexus 10, for example, that is much colder (with white whites, not blueish, so I'm calling it right in the middle) than many others that I tried out side-by-side. It also seems to get better with given devices as the manufacturing process goes on--for example, it was a problem early in the lifecycle of the iPad 3 but then became consistently over time (if forum complaints about it can be taken as evidence).
So, personally, I think that it's simply very difficult to make consistent LCD panels with these resolutions and at these price points. Perhaps someone like LG does a better job of quality control in making their higher-priced G2 than they do screens for their Nexus 5; I haven't read about this being a problem with the LG G2's screen, which I think is similar technology.
Anyways, it definitely makes an impact on the quality of the experience. I might be much more sensitive to it than others, and some people might actually prefer their screen warmer--although I wonder if they would if they hold it next to a screen that has truer whites. Really, the difference in contrast is what's most striking, to me at least.
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A warm white balance is yellowish not red. At low levels my N5 is massively warm next to my N4
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Oh, and, I think you're right about the brightness levels as well-it does seem to get a touch better when the screen is brighter.
this also happened with the iphone 5s..it was fixed a few weeks later..our phones have only just been made and the glue takes on average 2 to 3 weeks to dry completely and then become transparent..relax
Here's a really good article discussing what's going on here: http://www.eizo.com/global/library/basics/color_temperature_on_an_LCD_monitor/
Look at about 3/4 down the page, they have examples that demonstrate what we're seeing quite nicely. Not only are whites more yellow, but to my eyes colors wash out the warmer the display.
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this also happened with the iphone 5s..it was fixed a few weeks later..our phones have only just been made and the glue takes on average 2 to 3 weeks to dry completely and then become transparent..relax
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This guy is right. Give it a week and it will get better. Not perfect, but it won't be as yellow.
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this also happened with the iphone 5s..it was fixed a few weeks later..our phones have only just been made and the glue takes on average 2 to 3 weeks to dry completely and then become transparent..relax
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Unfortunately, I don't think this is the same as the glue issue. That's typically only on parts of the screen, and I've seen this too many times on other devices where out of the box one is terribly warmer than another and it never resolves.
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Unfortunately, I don't think this is the same as the glue issue. That's typically only on parts of the screen, and I've seen this too many times on other devices where out of the box one is terribly warmer than another and it never resolves.
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You're right , when it's a glue problem usually there's just spots, not a solid yellow tone over the screen, so what can we do? try to exchange the phone, are there nexus 5 with colder screen or are they all so yellow?
I had a galaxy nexus with a terribly yellow screen, let me tell it NEVER got better , even after months of use :crying:
This video shows the difference between the N4 and N5. Wait until it gets to the browser speed comparison, you can see the screen is yellower on the N5 and the UI contrast is less. Note that the apparent difference on mine is much greater, so either this is variation or the video mutes the difference.
http://fullyc.com/watch-speed-test-every-google-nexus-phone-see-wonders-nexus-5/
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Unfortunately, I don't think this is the same as the glue issue. That's typically only on parts of the screen, and I've seen this too many times on other devices where out of the box one is terribly warmer than another and it never resolves.
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other n4 had it and later was fixed..i remember when i had it on mine
hello00 said:
other n4 had it and later was fixed..i remember when i had it on mine
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You mean with new batches of the phone?
hello00 said:
other n4 had it and later was fixed..i remember when i had it on mine
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Fixed by Google or by a custom ROM?
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Fixed by Google or by a custom ROM?
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both
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You mean with new batches of the phone?
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Probably not. I don't think anything is wrong with the screens of our phones. They're just calibrated wrong by Google or LG.
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Comparing my Nexus 5 by eye to my calibrated (sRGB, 6500k white point) monitor, the Nexus 5 has a very slight blue push. The Nexus 4, however, is INCREDIBLY blue. Like 9300k blue. If you're used to the Nexus 4, the Nexus 5 will look yellow, but it's the Nexus 4 that is out of whack in this case.
Return it. No yellows here.
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Return it. No yellows here.
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Could you post pictures comparing it to other phones ? Your laptop maybe ?
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Any other S4 owners having reservations about going back to LCD screen after enjoying AMOLED?
I know S4 colors are not perfectly accurate but I for one have always enjoyed such vibrant display on my phone. I'm all for having accurately calibrated TV but on a phone I prefer the richness AMOLED provides. When I tried switching the screen profile to "Movie", to see how it would be, I always got a "blah" feeling when I went back to my home screen, something was missing.
So, my Nexus is "out for delivery" and I'm trying to convince myself to open the box when it gets here. I like everything else about it.
Is this a joke?
I've been with the S3 since it was released and always liked the super vibrant and colour saturated screen. Been on my Nexus 5 for a few days now and I actually prefer it more. The colours aren't as saturated but the screen looks more.. realistic. I find the S3 screen to be too distracting and irritating now.
That's my opinion.
I don't know about the "vibrancy" of my Nexus 5's screen, but it is worlds ahead of my Galaxy Nexus' screen. Everything is crystal clear, and looking at them both at the same time makes my Gnex look awful.
I was in a similar boat coming from my galaxy note 2. I've always adored AMOLED displays.
To my surprise though I really like the nexus 5 screen. I like it better than my note 2. I'm really impressed.
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Surfy89 said:
I've been with the S3 since it was released and always liked the super vibrant and colour saturated screen. Been on my Nexus 5 for a few days now and I actually prefer it more. The colours aren't as saturated but the screen looks more.. realistic. I find the S3 screen to be too distracting and irritating now.
That's my opinion.
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I have never been a big fan of AMOLED. I have had it on past phones, like you I had a Galaxy S3 as my immediate prior phone. I honestly hated the display because I couldn't see anything in direct sunlight outside. It was great for indoor viewing at night, and as a clock on my night stand but that was it. I much much more prefer the screen on the Nexus 5.
AMOLED is terrible. IPS is much better
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I absolutely love amoled screens... that being said I also love the Nexus 5 screen!
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Any other S4 owners having reservations about going back to LCD screen after enjoying AMOLED?
I know S4 colors are not perfectly accurate but I for one have always enjoyed such vibrant display on my phone. I'm all for having accurately calibrated TV but on a phone I prefer the richness AMOLED provides. When I tried switching the screen profile to "Movie", to see how it would be, I always got a "blah" feeling when I went back to my home screen, something was missing.
So, my Nexus is "out for delivery" and I'm trying to convince myself to open the box when it gets here. I like everything else about it.
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I'm still having some reservations.
I'm testing both devices for a week.
I am coming from a Note 2 as well. My first reaction to the N5 was, wow this screen looks great. Crystal clear and colors look better to me. This is another thing though that will be entirely up to the user. Some with see things different than others.
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AMOLED is terrible. IPS is much better
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It's a cheap IPS, which is no better than S-PVA.
Just compare Nexus 5 colors to iphone or to IPS monitors from Apple or NEC.
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It's a cheap IPS, which is no better than S-PVA.
Just compare Nexus 5 colors to iphone or to IPS monitors from Apple or NEC.
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Pretty sure the Nexus 5 is a cheap phone, at $350 unlocked.
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Pretty sure the Nexus 5 is a cheap phone, at $350 unlocked.
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Define "cheap".
The manufacturing costs of iphone is cheap too.
http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns/Ne...-Manufacturing-Cost-IHS-Teardown-Reveals.aspx
But apple likes to earn a big margin on them. Now, Google as Amazon might follow a different strategy here.
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Any other S4 owners having reservations about going back to LCD screen after enjoying AMOLED?
I know S4 colors are not perfectly accurate but I for one have always enjoyed such vibrant display on my phone. I'm all for having accurately calibrated TV but on a phone I prefer the richness AMOLED provides. When I tried switching the screen profile to "Movie", to see how it would be, I always got a "blah" feeling when I went back to my home screen, something was missing.
So, my Nexus is "out for delivery" and I'm trying to convince myself to open the box when it gets here. I like everything else about it.
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Keep your locked bootloader s4 and pretty display. And next time search before posting. There are many other threads discussing the same thing.
jd1639 said:
Keep your locked bootloader s4 and pretty display. And next time search before posting. There are many other threads discussing the same thing.
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S4 GE's bootloader is unlocked. what's the problem ?
No second thoughts at all. Love ips screens. S4 screen you can see it is something glued under something else while here you feel it is one. Also amoled screen hurts my eyes. As for the washed out colors no worries at all. PA has the cure
I'm really missing AMOLED if i'm being honest. There is no Black as such on the N5 screen, just shades of grey. IPS glow sucks! What i want on this phone is to eliminate all traces of the Holo dark theme which doesn't work at all well on this screen. If everything was light coloured it wouldn't be an issue.
I've never actually owned a phone with an AMOLED screen but I have used them a bit and I personally prefer IPS, the HTC One has the nicest displays yet I hope the N5 screen is at least comparable.
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I am coming from a Note 2 as well. My first reaction to the N5 was, wow this screen looks great. Crystal clear and colors look better to me. This is another thing though that will be entirely up to the user. Some with see things different than others.
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This was my experience too coming from a Note 2. I love the display.
I've never owned a phone with amoled display, but looked at Samsung note 3, my initial thoughts were that the colours were very vibrant, after some time however I have concluded that the colours are over saturated.
I realise it's a matter of personal choice which you prefer, my preference is IPS lcd .
With regards to the claimed superiority of amoled display ability to show truer black, I am typing this on my nexus 5 and the black display is almost indistinguishable from black bevel at the top of the screen.
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Hello everyone, i got my nexus 5 a few days ago. And i noticed some light bleeding, is this considered "acceptable" light bleeding for the N5? Im thinking that if i rma it, i might get one with worse light bleeding and maybe other issues too. Do all N5 have this issue? Or mine is not that noticeable to go for rma?
It would be very difficult to get a nexus 5 without lightbleed of varying degrees. Its a common trait of LCD technology
You can only ask yourself if it is acceptable. To me it is. You would find it almost impossible to get one without bleed. That said, you may get one with less but then by the same token, what does it really matter? If you wanted the screen to be dark in a dark room, LCD could never achieve that without an LED backlight system.
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I think it's fine and not worth the RMA unless you just have to have that perfect device.
Depends how noticeable it is to you under normal usage conditions. Generally we don't use our phones in the dark with max brightness, but if it's bothering you in day to day usage then it might be worth trying a new one.
Not horrible as my RMA's Nexus 5 lol
Comes with the territory. If you feel black should be real black on your phone, get one with an amoled display type. But that technology comes with its own disadvantages like burning in pixels.
You'll have to decide for yourself what's most important to you.
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We have our own "image persistence" issues with lcd too
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I had the screen bleed issue on my Gnex as well, even though it is AMOLED. Haven't noticed it really on the N5 though.
You cannot have backlight bleeding with an amoled display: they don't have a backlight.
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Petrovski80 said:
You cannot have backlight bleeding with an amoled display: they don't have a backlight.
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Well I don't know what to tell ya because it did have it. The whole screen when black would have a glow to it. I don't know if you could technically call it light bleed but it looked like one of the pictures in this thread.
I think if the bleed just slight in the minor region.. accept it and enjoy your phone unless it somewhat major defect..
Trying hard to find a tiny bit of defect on this Nexus 5 beat the purpose of buying the awesome phone or we called it the developer phone..
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Hello everyone, i got my nexus 5 a few days ago. And i noticed some light bleeding, is this considered "acceptable" light bleeding for the N5? Im thinking that if i rma it, i might get one with worse light bleeding and maybe other issues too. Do all N5 have this issue? Or mine is not that noticeable to go for rma?
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Personally I never have my screen on full brightness unless its super sunny out. So I don't ever really see the bleed. However. Whatbi see in your pictures is two corners bleeding. I only have one corner bleeding. Back when I repaired phones I got this a lot with the HTC amaze. There is a 4 corner rule. If you get bleed on all for corners. Send it in. And I mean bleed. Not fade.
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All the Nexus 5 seems to have a bleed in the top left usually
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All the Nexus 5 seems to have a bleed in the top left usually
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Yes, there and where the volume rocker is.
Top left corner here as well, not going to RMA. It wouldn't most likely change anything; bleeds are more like a feature.
Hi guys,
I just get my fourth nexus 5 (I already had 1 black & 2 whites) and suprise... the back isn't as soft as my first black nexus 5. That's not "glossy" like the white but seems that they changed something.
Something I noticed is that my new nexus 5 was manufactured in February and my three old ones are from January.
Does anybody else seen that ?
I got my first black Nexus 5 on launch day and another one just on Monday. Both feel exactly the same.
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Charlus97 said:
Hi guys,
I just get my fourth nexus 5 (I already had 1 black & 2 whites) and suprise... the back isn't as soft as my first black nexus 5. That's not "glossy" like the white but seems that they changed something.
Something I noticed is that my new nexus 5 was manufactured in February and my three old ones are from January.
Does anybody else seen that ?
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Actually I have. My friend's Nexus 5 is newer, it's a slightly different color and the back is not as soft.
No two devices are the same... Some may have a slight soft back, some may not.
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I also noticied that the screen is a bit more "yellow" than my others phones. But I suppose that it's like the back, I cannot say anything : the phone is working so "there's no problem" for LG/Google
Mind if I ask why you have 4 Nexuses?
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when they updated the speakers they changes they style a bit too.
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when they updated the speakers they changes they style a bit too.
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If you're talking about the n5, The speakers weren't updated nor was the style...
Before this thread gets lost in the debate from a couple months ago about revisions and the months it was manufactured, there was still only one revision, rev11. Like someone else mentioned, the phones won't be identical. Some might feel a bit different. I for just got a replacement last week for a nexus 5 I had since nov and it feels the same. Also, the yellow screen is something people have experienced from the very beginning.
I'm making a cluster with them to create an Iron man suit.
Seriously, one for me and the others for members of my family. I'm the only one they know who has a google account with a credit card on it. So i'm the only one able to buy the phones
I'm looking to switch outta the note 5. Does any one know if the LG v10 is comparable?
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I'm not sure if I want a phone with IPS screen.
I've had both. I jumped to the v10, and was back to the note 5 within a month.
The V10 is good, but not quite there yet on performance and bugs.
The camera is excellent though. I liked that better than the note.
Overall, it wasn't a bad phone for me. My wife still has hers and likes it.
It is a different experience for sure
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I'm not sure if I want a phone with IPS screen.
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How come?
IPS screens aren't bad at all. Colours are pretty on point too especially compared to Samsung and their over saturation of colours.
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How come?
IPS screens aren't bad at all. Colours are pretty on point too especially compared to Samsung and their over saturation of colours.
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AMOLED and dark theme save battery. I'm used to the AMOLED screen but that's just me. I don't like how pixels are lid up on a black background. The Moto 360 has the IPS screen and it's pretty annoying to look at at night with an always on watchface.
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AMOLED and dark theme save battery. I'm used to the AMOLED screen but that's just me. I don't like how pixels are lid up on a black background. The Moto 360 has the IPS screen and it's pretty annoying to look at at night with an always on watchface.
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Ahh okay. I see a lot of people complain about that on the IPS devices. I didn't mind the ones I've owned in the past. I will say that I do love the Amoled screens but I just don't see the hype of the superBlacks that people rave about, though I do love my screen not Cyclops'in me at night though. Lol.
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I've had both. I jumped to the v10, and was back to the note 5 within a month.
The V10 is good, but not quite there yet on performance and bugs.
The camera is excellent though. I liked that better than the note.
Overall, it wasn't a bad phone for me. My wife still has hers and likes it.
It is a different experience for sure
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Same here...its a nice concept but v10 has worse battery life than note 5 and the second screen has weird shadowing issues that I could not stand ...not really a second screen...software splits them up...when you load cyanogen on it is obvious and I hated it.... hope this helps..
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Same here...its a nice concept but v10 has worse battery life than note 5 and the second screen has weird shadowing issues that I could not stand ...not really a second screen...software splits them up...when you load cyanogen on it is obvious and I hated it.... hope this helps..
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That sounds awful. I never get the point of the second screen in the V10.
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That sounds awful. I never get the point of the second screen in the V10.
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Yeah pretty much just a dedicated recent bar or edge app bar...pretty gimmicky....note 5 is such a better device overall...I don't know why every phone doesn't have front facing speakers tho...the only thing I would change really...but viper does a very nice job improving default speaker performance.
I usually don't even need to turn it up past halfway!
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Ahh okay. I see a lot of people complain about that on the IPS devices. I didn't mind the ones I've owned in the past. I will say that I do love the Amoled screens but I just don't see the hype of the superBlacks that people rave about, though I do love my screen not Cyclops'in me at night though. Lol.
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Seems to have a lot to do with how people use their phones. I'm personally a heavy reader, and there's something about Kindle with the black background setting and an AMOLED display. The screen just sort of disappears when you read in the dark, and all you see are the letters floating in your hand.
After three Samsungs, I switched to a Nexus 5 a couple years ago and haaaated the always-glowing LCD. Picked up a Note 4, breathed a sigh of relief. Went through the usual annual "Samsung sucks, I'm never buying another Samsung ever again!" tantrum after that and tried an iPhone 6 just to "gain some perspective". Haaaated the always-glowing LCD yet again (and so much more--you can't answer incoming VOIP app calls from the lock screen? What??), and went right back to Samsung with this Note 5.
So I've basically learned two things about myself: 1) I need zero-glow-blacks and 2) whining about Samsung has never changed the fact that they're the only brand I haven't thoroughly hated owning.
I agree. Samsung is keeping the best AMOLED screen for their flagships. The 6P's AMOLED screen is great but you can clearly tell it's not on the same level.