So I have one of the new Nokia Lumia 1020's from Rogers. I recently picked up one of the Secure SIM's (SureTap SIMs), that supposedly support NFC transactions for payments.
Activated the card, it's all working. However I still don't have an option to enable NFC payments under the MS Wallet App?
Anyone have any experience with this?
Zhariak said:
So I have one of the new Nokia Lumia 1020's from Rogers. I recently picked up one of the Secure SIM's (SureTap SIMs), that supposedly support NFC transactions for payments.
Activated the card, it's all working. However I still don't have an option to enable NFC payments under the MS Wallet App?
Anyone have any experience with this?
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It's not for that it is for their own, I believe, CIBC app. As far as I know they still haven't released the Windows Phone app for it.
Dark lord me said:
It's not for that it is for their own, I believe, CIBC app. As far as I know they still haven't released the Windows Phone app for it.
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Actually, most NFC based payments require a SIM card with a "Secure Element" to store CC information inside of and handle the encryption separately.
The CIBC app uses the same technology. Looks like the wallet app simply isn't provisioned on my carrier.
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Apparently Rogers and CIBC have rolled out the mobile payment app but I can't find it in the market on my Nexus S...
What I want to know from the people that may have it, can you add ANY visa/mastercard like Google wallet or is it only for CIBC credit cards?
Also, if you can share the apk file, that would be cool too.
Please note that the CIBC mobile banking app is not the same thing as the mobile payment app.
I'm pretty sure the app comes pre-installed on select roger device's. It may be some time before we see the apk for it.
seriosbrad said:
Apparently Rogers and CIBC have rolled out the mobile payment app but I can't find it in the market on my Nexus S...
What I want to know from the people that may have it, can you add ANY visa/mastercard like Google wallet or is it only for CIBC credit cards?
Also, if you can share the apk file, that would be cool too.
Please note that the CIBC mobile banking app is not the same thing as the mobile payment app.
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It's only for select Blackberry handsets sold by Rogers, they promise other handsets in the future but unlikely unless everybody upgrades to Android 4.2 for security
Also only works with CIBC cards.
derpsec said:
It's only for select Blackberry handsets sold by Rogers, they promise other handsets in the future but unlikely unless everybody upgrades to Android 4.2 for security
Also only works with CIBC cards.
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Oh well. Back to the waiting game for us Canadians.
Google wallet will probably work for us before Rogers does anything about it.
seriosbrad said:
Oh well. Back to the waiting game for us Canadians.
Google wallet will probably work for us before Rogers does anything about it.
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There's tricky ways to do it, but you can actually end up with a permanently broken google wallet doing it. Just too much of a hassle, in case Google wallet ever officially comes to Canada.
What were you looking for exactly? Like an app where you can just use NFC to pay for stuff? Or some sort of visa/mc transfer system like Liquid Payments/Liqpay?
Also if your phone is rooted, that's basically giving your credit card/bank info away probably why there is no support for android banks are too scared of the potential epic fraud
Its now confirmed that it's only for BlackBerry's at the time. Confirmation here. Also you can see it on Rogers website here. I guess they really want to make sure this system is secure and locked down, so I honestly would not expect it to come to android any time soon or at all for that matter. Just my opinion though.
Does anybody have any information about NFC payments on this phone? wasn't there supposed to VISA paywave preinstalled >
louie875 said:
Does anybody have any information about NFC payments on this phone? wasn't there supposed to VISA paywave preinstalled >
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I personally wouldnt trust it lol evem if you got it to work
But hey maybe im crazy
Also this is not the right section.
That answer was stupid and pointless, does anyone have any worthy input into any available or impending available Nfc payment apps
I'm hoping to get Google wallet installed. Use it all the time on my galaxy nexus!
I had t-mobile nexus 5, changed build.prop to "be like samsung galaxy s4", but still wasn't able to find the isis wallet from app store.. is there a working t-mobile .apk? or any other way to get isis wallet on my N5? thanks
susieling said:
I had t-mobile nexus 5, changed build.prop to "be like samsung galaxy s4", but still wasn't able to find the isis wallet from app store.. is there a working t-mobile .apk? or any other way to get isis wallet on my N5? thanks
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Dont need Isis wallet google wallet is there
ISIS was a rip off of google wallet anyway
markdapimp said:
Dont need Isis wallet google wallet is there
ISIS was a rip off of google wallet anyway
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Sure I agree google wallet is the final winner, but just want to take advantage of the limited 20% credit (until 1/31) via isis wallet, any body managed to get isis working on nexus?
susieling said:
Sure I agree google wallet is the final winner, but just want to take advantage of the limited 20% credit (until 1/31) via isis wallet, any body managed to get isis working on nexus?
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ISIS wallet can be only installed with ISIS compatible phone its both a software and hardware implementation of the sim and the software inside the phone itself, the nexus 5 being pure stock google does not have the software and hardware implementation of the Secure element in the sim because in Android 4.4+ Google emulates the secure element while isis uses a physical chip that's integrated into the "ISIS SIM"
So in short.... wont work.
Try borrow someones phone like a Galaxy s3 or whatever those phones are ISIS compatible..
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ISIS wallet can be only installed with ISIS compatible phone its both a software and hardware implementation of the sim and the software inside the phone itself, the nexus 5 being pure stock google does not have the software and hardware implementation of the Secure element in the sim because in Android 4.4+ Google emulates the secure element while isis uses a physical chip that's integrated into the "ISIS SIM"
So in short.... wont work.
Try borrow someones phone like a Galaxy s3 or whatever those phones are ISIS compatible..
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I would suggest he try if he has AT&T or Tmobile. You can download the isis app from the playstore and the phone itself doesn't require a secure element because that is contained within the sim. He will need to obtain the advanced sim from his carrier tho. I see no reason why it shouldn't work, so long as he has AT&T or Tmobile.
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I would suggest he try if he has AT&T or Tmobile. You can download the isis app from the playstore and the phone itself doesn't require a secure element because that is contained within the sim. He will need to obtain the advanced sim from his carrier tho. I see no reason why it shouldn't work, so long as he has AT&T or Tmobile.
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I see no reason either, except it does not work.
Took Isis apk from my LG G2 and put it on Nexus 5, tried to install, got "application not installed" message.
T-mo is the carrier.
Help please! I've been searching everywhere for and found some helpful tips on how to install Softcard (ISIS) Wallet on N5, but I cannot locate an .apk for current (or even previous) version of Softcard. Can anyone help?
TIA
Um Google wallet...?
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Um Google wallet...?
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I'm aware of Google Wallet - I'm trying to get Softcard to work.
Why?
I'm interested in Softcard and similar type of payments. From what I've read, it is still in beta testing in limited markets, two cities I believe. You need a special sim card from your carrier to support it. Plan is to roll it our at the end of the year to more areas but that has slipped so many times, I'm not planning to see it soon.
The last time I read something about nexus and Isis it said nexus wasn't supported by Isis. But I'm not sure if there are any ways to make it work. I signed up for Isis to take advantage of the free $50 american express serve thing and I just put that card on google wallet
Depends on which carrier you are with:
https://www.paywithisis.com/get-the-app.html
There are a bunch of vending machines near me that are ISIS only, even though they have the paypass and other branding on them. That was annoying.
lincoln131 said:
There are a bunch of vending machines near me that are ISIS only, even though they have the paypass and other branding on them. That was annoying.
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did you ever get this? I have both the AT&T and TMO apk's, but can't get them to install on 5.0.+ probably don't work with ART.
On my Pixel 3 I cannot activate Project Fi. I assume it would automatically use eSim or give me the option to? However it does not. It has asks me to install a Sim.
I installed eSim switcher and have the option to add a carrier but I still cannot get it to work, just says cannot be activated try again later.
I would kind to know if there is a way to tell if my eSim has been disabled?
The Verizon models need to be activated on VZW for 24 hours before they become available to use on another carrier.
Nope, eSim is disabled.
When I was ready to order mine, I chatted at Google and I was told any pixel 3 bought from any of the sources (Google, Fi, best buy, Verizon) would be physically the same and would all allow for future Fi through esim. It took a bit of back and forth to explain that I didn't want to use it or activate it or start a fi account right away, but it should work the same.
gotcha640 said:
When I was ready to order mine, I chatted at Google and I was told any pixel 3 bought from any of the sources (Google, Fi, best buy, Verizon) would be physically the same and would all allow for future Fi through esim. It took a bit of back and forth to explain that I didn't want to use it or activate it or start a fi account right away, but it should work the same.
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Awesome! Thank you for posting this. I was hoping the capability is at least there.
Ughh.. I escalated this as far as I could within Verizon and from the person that handles the Verizon + Google relationship, eSim has been disabled on the Pixel 3 with no plans to enable it.
Would it be worth returning the Verizon one and buying an unlocked one?
gotcha640 said:
Would it be worth returning the Verizon one and buying an unlocked one?
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If you want to unlock the bootloader and root it soon it would be :good:
pragakhan said:
Ughh.. I escalated this as far as I could within Verizon and from the person that handles the Verizon + Google relationship, eSim has been disabled on the Pixel 3 with no plans to enable it.
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You are correct, you are going to need to either return it or use a Verizon sim and Fi Esim, although I'm not sure that will work at this point. That really sucks though. The reason it's eSim locked is that with it enabled you could take the device to any carrier immediately. They don't like that since you probably bought it on a deal like bogo or a payment plan over 24 months. If you bought it on a Verizon plan then they also want the early termination fee. There is a new revision of eSim that can lock the phone but it's on hold while the DOJ investigates. Personally, do yourself a favor and return it ASAP and perhaps take the hit on the return fee. You might be able to negotiate it down due to the eSim lock.
FYI, the Pixel 2 are eSim unlocked as well as the Apple Watch Series 3 but that's it for now. Let's see what happens when the gorilla comes into the game. Should be an interesting fight and I'm not sure Verizon can stand up to Apple for long.
I returned the device and ordered one from Google. Lesson learned, gave up my free stand and paying restocking fee lol
Glad I seen this thread, just canceled my Pixel 3 from Verizon and offered mine through Google. (Back Ordered)
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Does anyone know if the Verizon Pixel 3 is actually missing the eSIM chip, or is it just disabled through software. Actually I haven't seen any way to figure out if a particular Pixel 3 was from Google or Verizon ...
lightsedge said:
Does anyone know if the Verizon Pixel 3 is actually missing the eSIM chip, or is it just disabled through software. Actually I haven't seen any way to figure out if a particular Pixel 3 was from Google or Verizon ...
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Yes it has it and no it's not disabled thru software. It's just not enabled with Verizon network. Yet.
bobby janow said:
Yes it has it and no it's not disabled thru software. It's just not enabled with Verizon network. Yet.
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My friend was not able to sign up for Google Fi using eSIM though.
Also, I switched to a T-Mobile SIM, and I don't see an easy way to open the eSIM Manager app. Not sure if this is normal or not - i.e. it seems to have GUI according to the store page but the "Open" link does not appear for me, nor is it in the apps list. Also no mention of eSIM in Mobile Settings. I guess maybe my OS build is a Verizon version?
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My friend was not able to sign up for Google Fi using eSIM though.
Also, I switched to a T-Mobile SIM, and I don't see an easy way to open the eSIM Manager app. Not sure if this is normal or not - i.e. it seems to have GUI according to the store page but the "Open" link does not appear for me, nor is it in the apps list. Also no mention of eSIM in Mobile Settings. I guess maybe my OS build is a Verizon version?
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I don't believe it has anything to with a Verizon version of the software, especially considering there is no such thing. There is only on version that we all use.
TMobile app isn't ready yet. They are saying by the end of the year. There is a Reddit thread on how to do it now if you want.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/co...es_how_to_activate/?utm_source=reddit-android
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I don't believe it has anything to with a Verizon version of the software, especially considering there is no such thing. There is only on version that we all use.
TMobile app isn't ready yet. They are saying by the end of the year. There is a Reddit thread on how to do it now if you want.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/co...es_how_to_activate/?utm_source=reddit-android
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That's a great thread, very informative. I heard that on Dec 7th the iPhone XR and XS were to be Verizon eSim active but I've not confirmed that yet. They are fighting tooth and nail to keep the tech out of people's hands, even dropping secondary sims down to 2G. But Apple will put the hammer down and then it will roll out to us lowly Pixel people eventually.
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I don't believe it has anything to with a Verizon version of the software, especially considering there is no such thing. There is only on version that we all use.
TMobile app isn't ready yet. They are saying by the end of the year. There is a Reddit thread on how to do it now if you want.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/co...es_how_to_activate/?utm_source=reddit-android
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Nice thread, but there are accounts of Verizon disabling eSIM: https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/a4ispi/tmobile_us_esim_is_working_on_pixel_3xl/. The question is how?
I heard that Pixel 3 boxes from Google have ESIM ID printed. However, mine from Verizon has SIM ID, which matches the physical SIM card inside the phone. I actually don't know how to find the EID.
My Pixel 3 box that was purchased from direct from Google does have an ESIM ID number printed on the box.
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Nice thread, but there are accounts of Verizon disabling eSIM: https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/a4ispi/tmobile_us_esim_is_working_on_pixel_3xl/. The question is how?
I heard that Pixel 3 boxes from Google have ESIM ID printed. However, mine from Verizon has SIM ID, which matches the physical SIM card inside the phone. I actually don't know how to find the EID.
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Yeah I saw that but I don't believe it. They just haven't activated it yet I doubt they have purposely disabled it. It's live now for the iPhone but not yet for the Pixel 3. I might give them a call to find out when it will be activated but I don't have much hope in getting a csr that even knows what I'm talking about.
edit: nothing doing. They don't know when we'll have support on the 3s. I do wonder if someone took a vzw P3 / XL and could get the eSim activated on ATT or Fi.
Has anyone tried scanning the QR code generated on verizon's site? I generated the QR code on my Verizon account, but decided against scanning it for now... I'm traveling this week and can't afford to be down a phone. I didn't want it to disable my physical SIM and not active the eSIM, and somehow get stuck in limbo.