Since rooting the device voids the warranty, and now the only method to obtain root with 4.4 triggers the tamper flag, if one is going to root, is there any reason to NOT request a bootloader unlock code from Motorola?
And if the bootloader is unlocked via the request, does that essentially turn it into an non-warranty Dev phone? (ie would we then have the ability to roll back from 4.4 to 4.2?)
jkhouw1 said:
Since rooting the device voids the warranty, and now the only method to obtain root with 4.4 triggers the tamper flag, if one is going to root, is there any reason to NOT request a bootloader unlock code from Motorola?
And if the bootloader is unlocked via the request, does that essentially turn it into an non-warranty Dev phone? (ie would we then have the ability to roll back from 4.4 to 4.2?)
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You can only get the unlock code if you have the dev edition. And if you do, unlocking the bootloader won't void your warranty.
jkhouw1 said:
Since rooting the device voids the warranty, and now the only method to obtain root with 4.4 triggers the tamper flag, if one is going to root, is there any reason to NOT request a bootloader unlock code from Motorola?
And if the bootloader is unlocked via the request, does that essentially turn it into an non-warranty Dev phone? (ie would we then have the ability to roll back from 4.4 to 4.2?)
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Non dev vzw devices are not eligible to receive unlock codes.
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ah thanks.
Just got the D6633 dual Sim for my wife. I use Nexus devices exclusively but since Sony offers bootloader unlocking I decided to get this phone instead of a Nexus for her.
My question is, should I go through the steps to actually get the bootloader unlock code for future use. I don't plan on unlocking the bootloader just yet but I worry that in the future the service might be discontinued and I'll never get a code from Sony.
It's still under warranty and I'd like to keep it that way so I guess the real question is, is getting the code what voids the warranty or actually preforming the unlock that does it? Is there a counter or some type of a flag in the device that is set permanently or can the bootloader be locked back again like any Nexus device?
Thanks for your help.
No, it's not like KNOX [SAMSUNG] or S-ON [HTC]
Keep the code if you want.
That is one of the reasons I prefer SONY devices, besides the specs and build quality. No stuff like tripping KNOX fuse or getting S-OFF to make an HTC a Google Play Edition for example.
Keep the code, just in case.
TheTeslaCoil said:
No, it's not like KNOX [SAMSUNG] or S-ON [HTC]
Keep the code if you want.
That is one of the reasons I prefer SONY devices, besides the specs and build quality. No stuff like tripping KNOX fuse or getting S-OFF to make an HTC a Google Play Edition for example.
Keep the code, just in case.
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OK, but if there is no tripped flag, how do they know I didn't use the code? I guess you didn't understand my initial question. I can understands the code doesn't expire, but doesn't the act of getting the code voids warranty?
obsanity said:
OK, but if there is no tripped flag, how do they know I didn't use the code? I guess you didn't understand my initial question. I can understands the code doesn't expire, but doesn't the act of getting the code voids warranty?
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You trigger something on their servers, it's all about the IMEI and Serial Number.
Even if you relock the bootloader, they will still know it was unlocked, I for example relocked the bootloader the official way, via SONY website, and got the code in my email.
Not quite. Warrenty is coded when you unlock the boot, nor when you ask for the code.
You can get the code and keep it forever.
Officially there is no way to re lock the bootloader anyway.
However, if you root first, backup the TA patition them unlock the boot, you can restore the TA partition to re lock and don't will not know.
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Not quite. Warrenty is coded when you unlock the boot, nor when you ask for the code.
You can get the code and keep it forever.
Officially there is no way to re lock the bootloader anyway.
However, if you root first, backup the TA patition them unlock the boot, you can restore the TA partition to re lock and don't will not know.
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True, it is a good idea to backup the TA partion, I myself didn't do it, but it is a good advice.
OK, so I'm gathering that there is a way to root and install recovery without unlocking the bootloader. If that's the case, why would anyone need to open the bootloader?
Also, I'm still not clear on my initial question. Do I loose warranty as soon as I get the unlock code from Sony or does the act of unlocking what voids it.
obsanity said:
OK, so I'm gathering that there is a way to root and install recovery without unlocking the bootloader. If that's the case, why would anyone need to open the bootloader?
Also, I'm still not clear on my initial question. Do I loose warranty as soon as I get the unlock code from Sony or does the act of unlocking what voids it.
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Only when you unlock you lose warranty. But you can backup the TA partition, and relock later, if you want.
With an unlock bootloader you can root Lollipop easy, with a lock bootloader, there are a few steps, like downgrading, for example.
And many more stuff you can do, with an unlocked bootloader, flash custom ROM's...mods, tweaks, etc.
TheTeslaCoil said:
Only when you unlock you lose warranty. But you can backup the TA partition, and relock later, if you want.
With an unlock bootloader you can root Lollipop easy, with a lock bootloader, there are a few steps, like downgrading, for example.
And many more stuff you can do, with an unlocked bootloader, flash custom ROM's...mods, tweaks, etc.
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So if you can lock it back and need to claim warranty they won't know you ever had it unlocked? Something seems not right.
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So if you can lock it back and need to claim warranty they won't know you ever had it unlocked? Something seems not right.
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If you restore your TA partition, yeah, you can claim warranty.
Thnaks:good:
Technically, no.
But on the other hand you can lock it again by flashing a stock rom using:
1. https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/how-to/guide-mate-9-flash-update-package-t3593108
2. Firmware Finder
3. Funky (Paid "service")
I'm not sure if Huawei can check if you unlocked bootloader, then locked it again using an official firmware update.
but when I unlock the Bootloader I do it on huawei site, right? So they know I unlocked my phone.
I understood I need unlock here:
https://emui.huawei.com/en/plugin/unlock/index
Alexnoj said:
but when I unlock the Bootloader I do it on huawei site, right? So they know I unlocked my phone.
I understood I need unlock here:
https://emui.huawei.com/en/plugin/unlock/index
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You only request an unlock code, it doesn't mean you'll use it.
However,
"The user shall be held responsible in the event that the device malfunctions and cannot be recovered. Huawei will record your unlock request information; for software and hardware failures arising as a result of unlocking the bootloader, Huawei repair centers can provide repair services charged at the standard rate for repair work outside the scope of the warranty."
I guess it could mean that just requesting the code means your warranty is void.
Thank you very much for explain
Just attached to the previcous post : Huawei CAN´T Check if the bootloader was opened when its relocked again by stock firmware : Just a few Minutes ago i received my phone from Service Center. Had to switch the display ( Warrantycase ). They repaired it without asking questions.
tell me please the unlocking password that I got from Huawei .
I need put him some where in the phone?
You need to unlock the Phone via fastboot oem unlock 1a2B3etc***(Code)
Hello everyone. I just got I'm mate 9 and I'm totally psyched. Seems like it's one of the best phones out there currently. I know I will be spending a lot more time here from now on. Looking around and doing some searches, I found a few threads that sort of answered this question but I'm still not a hundred percent positive. I have a couple of questions as follows:
1) I know that the bootloader unlock process has to be officially done through Huawei. My first question is when I request an unlock code, is my warranty void after that? Do they have a list of people who have requested these unlock codes that would be denied warranty even if the bootloader is locked when and if the warranty service is requested?
2) if the bootloader is re locked, is there any way for Huawei to tell that it was ever unlocked thereby denying warranty coverage?
Thanks in advance and it's good to be part of the mate 9 pack on XDA.
Going through Huawei will certainly void your warranty as they will have record of you requesting the unlock code (it's sent via email after you provide your IMEI). There's an app on the playstore that can provide you the code (DC Huawei bootloader codes) that can unlock it without their knowledge and flashing an official ROM will relock your bootloader every time.
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Going through Huawei will certainly void your warranty as they will have record of you requesting the unlock code (it's sent via email after you provide your IMEI). There's an app on the playstore that can provide you the code (DC Huawei bootloader codes) that can unlock it without their knowledge and flashing an official ROM will relock your bootloader every time.
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Thanks so much for that response. I was about to go through a Huawei but I think I will much rather use an app like this. It's a paid app right? And you have to use ADB to do the actual unlock.
The app is free but the service is not, I think it's 4-5 $. You'll need ADB to unlock, that is correct.
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Going through Huawei will certainly void your warranty as they will have record of you requesting the unlock code (it's sent via email after you provide your IMEI). There's an app on the playstore that can provide you the code (DC Huawei bootloader codes) that can unlock it without their knowledge and flashing an official ROM will relock your bootloader every time.
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I don't really see how requesting the bootloader unlock code can be seen as a proof of actually unlocking it.
Per Huawei's unlock agreement you're forced to accept.
"Unlocking the bootloader may result in unpredictable consequences for your device, including but not limited to those listed above. The user shall be held responsible in the event that the device malfunctions and cannot be recovered. Huawei will record your unlock request information; for software and hardware failures arising as a result of unlocking the bootloader, Huawei repair centers can provide repair services charged at the standard rate for repair work outside the scope of the warranty."
I just cant stand out with my U11 plus without Root anymore!
But I must unlock the bootloader to root and the only way is to do that is via htcdev ?
I get scared when I read all the warnings on htcdev that the warranties "can" (?) disappear etc..
Is there any other way to root so I dont need to go through htcdev?
Best regards/ David
I contacted the support, and they confirmed that unlock the bootloader will void the warranty.