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[q] how to get htc ozone or motorola q9c unlocked to use new sim?

Looked all over site..sounds like info I will need..but I just started.
I have HTC Ozone that I bought cash when I had Verizon wireless. I canceled with them over 5 months ago after being with them for over 10 yrs. I have T-Mobile now and would like to see if I can use my HTC Ozone (or Motorola q9c) with my current carrier T-Mobile.
I just started attempting to do this..so I did get a site where I got an unlock code..and I unlocked the Verizon SIM card. I did not know what to do next. I put the TMobile SIM in and it does not recognize SIM.
I saw on posting that I needed to change my network from CDMI to GSM? (I hope I have those letters correct). I did do this..and no matter what I do with trying the Verizon SIM or re-trying my current TMobile SIM..did not recognize, but I noticed that when I change from CDMI to GSM..it always goes back to CDMI. And the network name above it is fixed on Verizon with no change option.
I am new at this..but I am a computer geek..self taught, so terms like FLASH it and others, I am not familiar with yet. (ROM? means what)
I really did not use HTC Ozone for email, internet much..then I got stuck with Required data..so if there is some way to use internet..I don't care. it would be nice option to choose.
I just had to get out of that phone, as the rules changed with that carrier and it suddenly became a required DATA phone. (I had simply updated from my Motorola Q9c..'which is another option to update if it is easier to able to be used on T-Mobile..it just needed new battery.( I wish I never updated). T-Mobile phone I actually downgraded from my $500+ phone to a basic Gravity2. I miss the calendar and basic OS features. But I do like my new carrier very much.
Is there any way to remove all this Verizon software? or change the settings they have set on so it is locked with their Version only, I would prefer to see if it is possible to unlock and use either my HTC Ozone or Motorola q9c.
I have seen others mention 'removing carrier firmware and installing clean software..and I have seen on this site, real cool development stuff done.
I do not know if my phone has 'Cedar? or whatever the other name was?
Does anyone know a good first steps to look into to do this? I did already unlock my prior HTC Ozone..I had used when I was with VerizonWireless..over 4 months ago, so it is here..and Motorola q9c real good phones I would rather have the choice to use.
Will I be able to use my T-Mobile SIM in my HTC Ozone? or on Motorola q9c? And Use one of these great phones?
Here is my phone specs on Ozone: (getting info on Motorola)
HTC Ozone (bought Verizon) have Verizon SIM card..I was able to unlock it.
Device: Version-ROM 2.16.605.15
ROM date 11/19/09, radio version- 1.71.08WV
Protocol version-M76XXMSNCJNWZM-6125
Hardware version-0080, PRL version-51831, PRI version 1.34_002
Browser MSIE 6.0, MEID A100000 7999061, ERI version-5

[Q] Carrier vs. Manufacture Branding

Hello,
I have been wondering about the substantive difference between the carrier and manufacture branding, but couldn't find anything on google or here about this subject.
Basically, it's common knowledge that carrier-branded phones get updates when the carrier wants you to, but is there also a delay if the phone is not carrier branded but manufacture branded?
For example, I bought my HTC phone through retail so it is not branded by a carrier, but it still has the HTC branding on the phone. Does this mean that updates will be pushed whenever HTC decides to push it instead of as soon as Microsoft releases it?
If so, would it be worth flashing the ROM to get rid of the HTC branding too? Is this even possible? The threads on de-branding and flashing HTC phones seem to all link to HTC ROMs instead of generic Microsoft ones, do they even exist?
Thanks!

Hardware the same?

Besides the software programming are all HTC M8s the same? I've unlocked mine and soff wanted to flash a GSM ROM to convert it, would it be a true GSM phone? I'm just asking cause I believe the phone has a programmable radio and isn't locked into only CDMA but could be wrong. Thank you.

BlackKnight23 said:
Besides the software programming are all HTC M8s the same? I've unlocked mine and soff wanted to flash a GSM ROM to convert it, would it be a true GSM phone? I'm just asking cause I believe the phone has a programmable radio and isn't locked into only CDMA but could be wrong. Thank you.
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I have wondered the same, but I imagine the verizon m8 and the sprint m8 are the same hardware wise, and I think if you removed the cdma components then they may be the same as the at&t & tmobile versions. I seriously think like you it is the software that makes the carrier version, but the cdma part for verizon and sprint could be added hardware.
Overall I think the verizon and sprint versions could be completely carrier changed to at&t or tmobile.
There are guides on xda that tell how to unlock the other bands of gsm some report success and many report no success. Most of the posts are for people wanting to convert the verizon m8 to tmobile. A good amount report success but they say they have to toggle airplane mode quite a bit to force Lte connection.
I have seen a lot say when installing a rom such as viperone they chose to install it as the tmobile version and they report this helps.
Many keep asking can they flash the tmobile firmware to their verizon m8 and no one seems to know probably because their is a good possibility they will brick their verizon m8, so no one seems to be willing to chance it with good reason.
I think this subject is actually losing interest with devs because of the m9 due out in weeks, so honestly I would not expect to see anything done on this for the m8 unless its working on the m9 that they crack how to do it and find out it applies to the m8 in the process.
I really wanted to do this myself because I wanted to convert to a dev edition and get updates direct from htc and get to ditch all verizon software completely which would have been awesome

M9guy said:
I have wondered the same, but I imagine the verizon m8 and the sprint m8 are the same hardware wise, and I think if you removed the cdma components then they may be the same as the at&t & tmobile versions. I seriously think like you it is the software that makes the carrier version, but the cdma part for verizon and sprint could be added hardware.
Overall I think the verizon and sprint versions could be completely carrier changed to at&t or tmobile.
There are guides on xda that tell how to unlock the other bands of gsm some report success and many report no success. Most of the posts are for people wanting to convert the verizon m8 to tmobile. A good amount report success but they say they have to toggle airplane mode quite a bit to force Lte connection.
I have seen a lot say when installing a rom such as viperone they chose to install it as the tmobile version and they report this helps.
Many keep asking can they flash the tmobile firmware to their verizon m8 and no one seems to know probably because their is a good possibility they will brick their verizon m8, so no one seems to be willing to chance it with good reason.
I think this subject is actually losing interest with devs because of the m9 due out in weeks, so honestly I would not expect to see anything done on this for the m8 unless its working on the m9 that they crack how to do it and find out it applies to the m8 in the process.
I really wanted to do this myself because I wanted to convert to a dev edition and get updates direct from htc and get to ditch all verizon software completely which would have been awesome
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Well I have phone insurance and extended warranty so I don't care if I brick mine, I have been working on converting it to a GPE regardless. I'll let you know the outcome. Im looking forward to the M9 as well. I am still planning on keeping my droid turbo.

BlackKnight23 said:
Well I have phone insurance and extended warranty so I don't care if I brick mine, I have been working on converting it to a GPE regardless. I'll let you know the outcome. Im looking forward to the M9 as well. I am still planning on keeping my droid turbo.
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There are differences - in the the partition layout in the NANDs, so it's kind of risky to try it out. Every ROM, RUU, OTA, Firmware, Radio etc. you install have instructions for writing in particular partitions. And they are a lot, i've seen devices with 78 partitions. So that is the big stop i believe. As far as i know there's no other differences, i mean it's easier for HTC to differentiate the phones by making 3,4 or 5 versions with partition layout needed for carrier specs, than producing 5 or more SOCs. Hardware manufacturing is a costly process. So long story short 99,95% chance of brick.

i know that the board with the charging port on it is different for the Verizon version. i broke mine and it seems like all the part suppliers only have the gsm/sprint version. they all have the part labled with the H/K model number.

So what happened?

xsteven77x said:
So what happened?
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If your asking if i was able to get it repaired yet? The answer is no. I've still been unable to get a source for the part. everyone only has the one with only one antenna connection on it. Now the question i have is what dose that 2nd antenna do.

Htc u11 at&t version wifi calling

Hello! I just perchased the u11 on att and found out that wifi calling is 'not supported'. My phone was purchased directly from HTC unlocked and I need to know if there's a way I can use a rom or force an update so I can have wifi calling.? Or if I need to return and but the att version? Please help. I will do whatever I need to to get this going but I really need a direction. Thanks!

Insomniac12546 said:
Hello! I just perchased the u11 on att and found out that wifi calling is 'not supported'. My phone was purchased directly from HTC unlocked and I need to know if there's a way I can use a rom or force an update so I can have wifi calling.? Or if I need to return and but the att version? Please help. I will do whatever I need to to get this going but I really need a direction. Thanks!
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This is AT&T company policy regarding devices not sold by AT&T directly. There is no AT&T version of U11.

Insomniac12546 said:
Hello! I just perchased the u11 on att and found out that wifi calling is 'not supported'. My phone was purchased directly from HTC unlocked and I need to know if there's a way I can use a rom or force an update so I can have wifi calling.? Or if I need to return and but the att version? Please help. I will do whatever I need to to get this going but I really need a direction. Thanks!
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unfortunately there is no version of the HTC U11 that will support WiFi-Calling & most likely it will never support VoLTE on AT&T network your only option would be buy a phone in an AT&T store or AT&T online or a used AT&T branded phone or switch carrier, T-Mobile for example, does not have that issue it supports both features out of the box on their network

I know it's not a Press Release but I have two HTC chat transcripts telling me that they are absolutely working with AT&T on this issue and that it's definitely coming soon.
Both chat reps were clearly giving information they had scripted in front of them. FYI
Chad

GooseChaser said:
I know it's not a Press Release but I have two HTC chat transcripts telling me that they are absolutely working with AT&T on this issue and that it's definitely coming soon.
Both chat reps were clearly giving information they had scripted in front of them. FYI
Chad
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I wish I could believe that.... if only that were true...
Sent from my HTC U11 using XDA Labs

My previous phone was a Moto X Pure Edition that I bought unlocked from a retailer. It had Wi-Fi calling that worked on at&t.
I think that there have been others as well.
Chad

Please explain how Android updates happen on unlocked phones. I don't understand.

Hello. I was hoping you guys could answer my questions.
Let's say I bought an originally made for AT&T LG GSM phone (such as the V20) that was then carrier unlocked, and I took it over to MetroPCS (or T-Mobile) and activated it there.
Now let's say Android security updates were produced, or an update from Marshmallow to Oreo was produced.
Would the phone get the update(s) or not get the update(s)? And who creates the updates and pushes you the updates at that point? AT&T, LG, or T-Mobile? Or does Google push the updates when the phone is on wifi?
Furthermore, does, for example, buying an unlocked T-mobile phone assure you that you'll get updates if they exist if you use that phone on MetroPCS? On the same token, would it behoove you to use an unlocked AT&T phone on Cricket, etc?
And lastly, I see carrier unlocked GSM LG V20 phones on ebay that were original locked to a Puerto Rico carrier. Let's say I tried to use that unlocked phone on T-Mobile in NYC. Would there be some sort of GPS block on that phone that would say "hey this phone's not in Puerto Rico!" and then prevent it from updating somehow?
This is all very confusing. Thank you.

So here's this supposedly great and active forum, and not one single person helps me. Thanks guys. Appreciate it lol. I'll show myself out.