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So, I've been debating between TouchWiz and AOSP ROMS. I love the smoothness of AOSP but I really enjoy the features of TouchWiz. I have some questions about both though:
TouchWiz:
One of my biggest irks about TW is that there is some serious lag with some buttons, the most blatant one in particular is pressing the Menu button on the homescreen. I want to use an alternative launcher such as Nova or Apex, but the lag between pressing the menu button and the menu actually showing up can be as long as 2 seconds, It's enough to make it annoying... I was wondering if there's some way to fix it. The ROMS I've tested are CleanROM, Hyperdrive, GalaxyMOD, and Vengeance, and they all have the same problem...
4.2 AOSP:
Do you think we will realistically have a good, stable, full featured (Photosphere, Functioning Bluetooth, Call Volume, Minimal Screen Flickering, etc) ROM? I would take a full-functioning AOSP over TouchWiz anyday, but with the issues with them, I find myself going to TW, but then I get drawn back to AOSP even with its bugs and all... Would be nice to have a more "purified" DD.
Thanks for your time
BlazingGlory53 said:
So, I've been debating between TouchWiz and AOSP ROMS. I love the smoothness of AOSP but I really enjoy the features of TouchWiz. I have some questions about both though:
TouchWiz:
One of my biggest irks about TW is that there is some serious lag with some buttons, the most blatant one in particular is pressing the Menu button on the homescreen. I want to use an alternative launcher such as Nova or Apex, but the lag between pressing the menu button and the menu actually showing up can be as long as 2 seconds, It's enough to make it annoying... I was wondering if there's some way to fix it. The ROMS I've tested are CleanROM, Hyperdrive, GalaxyMOD, and Vengeance, and they all have the same problem...
4.2 AOSP:
Do you think we will realistically have a good, stable, full featured (Photosphere, Functioning Bluetooth, Call Volume, Minimal Screen Flickering, etc) ROM? I would take a full-functioning AOSP over TouchWiz anyday, but with the issues with them, I find myself going to TW, but then I get drawn back to AOSP even with its bugs and all... Would be nice to have a more "purified" DD.
Thanks for your time
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Touchwiz: settings>developers options and check disable hardware overlays will fix it.
AOSP: Closest you will get is running a unofficial, i.e. mastamoons or aerovans. aerovan is using the 3.4 kernel in his unofficials right now which breaks the camera. As for screen flickering disabling hardware overlays will get rid of it too.
Have the P3110 which means I have the WiFi only model. I am torn between Cyanogenmod 10.1 and Pac Rom. CM10.1 is more popular and it's like stock Android. The problem I have with CM is the notifications pulldown, I want the default sliding toggles that come with Touchwiz, not the square tiles, which look like they just waste space. That's my only problem with CM. Then I looked at Pac Rom and thought "Wow that looks sexy, all those vibrant colors!" and it had the option to change the UI between Tablet UI, Phablet UI, and another option I forgot. So I am swaying more towards Pac Rom, but I read the replies and it looks like there are lots of bugs, specifically the glitched boot animation, and apparently some glitches with the nav bar and changing the UI. What ROM is better for me?
If you can wait, than choose P.A.C man, it will suit you the best.
Sounds like you want a 4.1.x rom rather than a less stable 4.2.x rom. I'll always suggest aokp milestone 1 to everyone.
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Sounds like you want a 4.1.x rom rather than a less stable 4.2.x rom. I'll always suggest aokp milestone 1 to everyone.
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I want 4.2, but it sounds like there's no stable 4.2 ROM yet. I still want it though, what is the most stable 4.2 ROM?
CM10.1
Dexxmor said:
CM10.1
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I agree, its the moat stable. But not stable enough (for me)
moat? i meant most!
Dexxmor said:
CM10.1
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But the tiles are ugly, is there any way to change them to sliding toggles?
No, this tiles are the new feature of 4.2.2, but you can have your old toggles back if you activatet them in Settings>System but you can not make the tiles disappair
There's a free app called notification toggles that you can use if you like the sliding toggles.
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CM10.1 or AOSPA3+ for me.
I use Power Toggle widget. Very convenience, everything on/off is one click away.
I'm loving cm 10.1, defgo recommend it
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blagginspaziyonokip said:
Have the P3110 which means I have the WiFi only model. I am torn between Cyanogenmod 10.1 and Pac Rom. CM10.1 is more popular and it's like stock Android. The problem I have with CM is the notifications pulldown, I want the default sliding toggles that come with Touchwiz, not the square tiles, which look like they just waste space. That's my only problem with CM. Then I looked at Pac Rom and thought "Wow that looks sexy, all those vibrant colors!" and it had the option to change the UI between Tablet UI, Phablet UI, and another option I forgot. So I am swaying more towards Pac Rom, but I read the replies and it looks like there are lots of bugs, specifically the glitched boot animation, and apparently some glitches with the nav bar and changing the UI. What ROM is better for me?
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PAC Rom
FATURES:
* All in One Rom [CM, AOKP and PA]
* PhoneUI, TabletUI, PhabletUI
* Latest Version 23.0.0
* Some Features from AOKP
* All Feautures from PA (the one with the chaging UIs, ie: Phone, Phablet and Tablet)
* All Features from CM (based on the RC4 CM10.1)
* Of course JellyBean 4.2.2
* Ketut.kumajaya's Kernel (black hawk kernel)
*just join the thread to further improve the ROM by reporting bug issues.
i recommend you use PACROM. it has everything fromCM10.1, AOKP, and paranoidandroid. it's basically CM10.1 on steroids.
I will be compiling AOSP's master branch (almost) nightly. This branch is, at times, very unstable and can have many issues. Most issues cannot be fixed without upstream changes.
I guarantee no stability or the fact that your device will work. It's your choice to use this. Don't blame me for something that goes wrong (even though nothing probably will).
You will need to flash Gapps in order to use the Play Store. You can get Gapps from http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20130301-signed.zip
Flashing for the first time:
1. Reboot into recovery.
1a. Backup current ROM
2. Wipe data.
3. Flash ROM
4. Flash Gaps
5. Reboot
6. Enjoy
Upgrading
1. Reboot into recovery.
1a. Backup current ROM
2. Flash ROM
3. Flash Gaps
4. Reboot
5. Enjoy
NO FEATURE REQUESTS WILL BE ACCEPTED! THIS IS PURE AOSP!
Current Known Issues:
* Superuser does not work with apps (shell works); this includes Chainfire's, ChainsDD's and Koush's.
Bugs?
AOSP loves contributions!
DOWNLOAD
(No mirrors allowed)
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Nice to see another pure aosp out there! Too bad about tweaks though, some tweaks I just can't live without anymore. That aside I'd rather have barebones over bloat
Thanks for this great rom!
brandub said:
Nice to see another pure aosp out there! Too bad about tweaks though, some tweaks I just can't live without anymore. That aside I'd rather have barebones over bloat
Thanks for this great rom!
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I may make another ROM at a later time that is a tweaked master branch, but for now, this is staying pure AOSP. I haven't seen any frequently maintained master branch builds, and I think that the n7 community needs that. It's nice to have an up-to-date build of what Google is working on.
And remember, if there's a super awesome feature you think it oughta have, maybe AOSP will merge your contribution!
kalaker said:
I may make another ROM at a later time that is a tweaked master branch, but for now, this is staying pure AOSP. I haven't seen any frequently maintained master branch builds, and I think that the n7 community needs that. It's nice to have an up-to-date build of what Google is working on.
And remember, if there's a super awesome feature you think it oughta have, maybe AOSP will merge your contribution!
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Features I was thinking of were mostly addons & some performance some ui tweaks which I don't think an aosp purist would likely agree on:
Cpu/ I/O memory management
Battery bar (miui, not a big break away from stock but not important)
Quick Settings toggles: extra buttons
Nav bar button editing
Kill app on long press of back button
Recent apps clear all & memory display
Battery statusbar options (I've always used %)
Statusbar clock settings (right/centre)
Some of those are purely subjective but things like kill app on long press, QS and navigation button settings should be built into the aosp source IMO. I get your philosophy behind this and I don't mind the missing features but I don't think I can keep pure aosp for very long after being spoiled with so many feature rich roms over the last few years
There are many people who would appreciate this though so I hope it gets the respect it deserves. Thank you!
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brandub said:
Features I was thinking of were mostly addons & some performance some ui tweaks which I don't think an aosp purist would likely agree on:
Cpu/ I/O memory management
Battery bar (miui, not a big break away from stock but not important)
Quick Settings toggles: extra buttons
Nav bar button editing
Kill app on long press of back button
Recent apps clear all & memory display
Battery statusbar options (I've always used %)
Statusbar clock settings (right/centre)
Some of those are purely subjective but things like kill app on long press, QS and navigation button settings should be built into the aosp source IMO. I get your philosophy behind this and I don't mind the missing features but I don't think I can keep pure aosp for very long after being spoiled with so many feature rich roms over the last few years
There are many people who would appreciate this though so I hope it gets the respect it deserves. Thank you!
Sent from my Nexus 7
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Thanks for the suggestions, I'll consider those if I ever work on another ROM. In the meantime, let's keep this thread fully focused on AOSP and this ROM. I really do appreciate the suggestions.
I have to try this. Downloading...
Is this a nightly of Googles stock rom?
To98 said:
I have to try this. Downloading...
Is this a nightly of Googles stock rom?
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Essentially, yes. As I am sure you probably understand, each git repo can have multiple branches and Google creates a branch after each stable release. However, they also have a working branch that they push to frequently (many times per day) with changes called "master" and this is a nightly build of that branch. So, this is like the stock ROM, except it is on their working branch, not their 4.2.2 branch. In the build files, this is referred to as "OpenMaster", and Android version 4.2.2.2.2.2.2.2.2.2.
You'll notice some features that aren't in the stock ROM and you'll notice some (but not all) of the features reported to be in the 4.3 ROMs.
This branch tends to be slightly less stable, but it also is very interesting to use. I use it as my daily driver and have for awhile. There are some bugs, but they tend to get squashed within a few days.
If you want to see a changelog, check AOSP review.
I have two more questions:
- How can I get notifications about updates?
- How can I build the Master branch for my Galaxy Nexus?
Oh and btw. good rom! It is really interesting to test those new features and have some bugs.
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I have two more questions:
- How can I get notifications about updates?
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Sorry, but at this time, you'll need to check the downloads page daily (probably around 10PM GMT-5 I'll have done it if I will) to see if I've posted a new build for the day. Maybe I will later make an app and put it in the Play Store and it will notify you when a new build is posted.
To98 said:
- How can I build the Master branch for my Galaxy Nexus?
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You'll need to sync AOSP and it includes the source for GNex. You'll need to download the proprietary files separately and unzip them. If you have questions, PM me. Also, http://source.android.com/source/building.html may be of some help.
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Oh and btw. good rom! It is really interesting to test those new features and have some bugs.
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Thanks! I literally just synced the source and built it, but thank you.
Getting a late start on today's build. It should be up in about 1 hour.
Edit: It's up.
kalaker said:
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll consider those if I ever work on another ROM. In the meantime, let's keep thread fully focused on AOSP and this ROM. I really do appreciate the suggestions.
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I have respect for the stock aosp. If I could pick only one feature though it would be one in forgot to mention "statusbar brightness slider" I use it so much I forget it's there.
I can live without those though, I'm glad to see openmaster working on the n7 and I'm going to try to live e without the frills! Thank k's for this pure rom,
brandub said:
I have respect for the stock aosp. If I could pick only one feature though it would be one in forgot to mention "statusbar brightness slider" I use it so much I forget it's there.
I can live without those though, I'm glad to see openmaster working on the n7 and I'm going to try to live e without the frills! Thank k's for this pure rom,
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Check out this handy tool. I'm usually anti widget but this lil tool is amazing for setting a brightness slider anywhere on the screen.
I've used it since way back before the status bar mod was available and I still use it pretty often if the ROM doesn't have it included.
Can be configured I'm about every way possible.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rubberbigpepper.DisplayBrightness
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OpenMaster with 4.3 (officially versioned as 4.3.2.1.000.000) is available for download. Grap the latest nightly here.
SuperUser is almost definitely not working; additionally I cannot confirm how well the gapps package works with 4.3.
This release is 4.3 plus what you see merged on AOSP Code Review.
This build was made with the 4.2.2 proprietary binaries. A build with the 4.3 proprietary binaries will be released later today.
Edit: The build available (AOSP-OpenMaster-kalaker-grouper-20130724-fixed_binaries.zip).
IMPORTANT: As of 20130724, the OpenMaster builds are based on Android 4.3. With Google's official release of Android 4.3 for the Nexus 7 (grouper), a new bootloader, version 4.23, was released. OpenMaster builds after 20130724 have only been tested with the new bootloader. No support will be provided for users of the older bootloaders.
Just to be clear apps like adaway won't work since it requires root?
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slyr114 said:
Just to be clear apps like adaway won't work since it requires root?
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That is correct.
Is this JSS15J or JWR66V?
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nexusmaniac said:
Is this JSS15J or JWR66V?
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It's neither. It's not 4.3. It's newer.
So this rom not rooted can we just flash the updated supersu?
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Complete newbie here. After a lot of reading how-to's here and other sites, I managed to migrate from the stock to CM10.1 (JB 4.2).
Like almost everything except the rough 'screen scrolling stutter' for example in facebook, browser etc. The stock ROM on most devices (for example my other LG escape with android 4.0.4) seem to be buttery smooth. Is there a setting (would that be some kind of h/w acceleration?) or something to make it smooth?
Though I love the new ROM, this is almost becoming a deal breaker and makes me want to go back to the stock rom.
Thanks for any help.
ps: Sometimes, it is so bad that when I flick the screen up, it would try to go up and then rebound downwards...
What version of cm 10.1 are you on? You might try the latest nightly. If your browser is chrome, it seems to be an issue with chrome, others have reported that problem. I'm on the 7/25 nightly and it's running well. I don't use chrome though.
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panny2 said:
Complete newbie here. After a lot of reading how-to's here and other sites, I managed to migrate from the stock to CM10.1 (JB 4.2).
Like almost everything except the rough 'screen scrolling stutter' for example in facebook, browser etc. The stock ROM on most devices (for example my other LG escape with android 4.0.4) seem to be buttery smooth. Is there a setting (would that be some kind of h/w acceleration?) or something to make it smooth?
Though I love the new ROM, this is almost becoming a deal breaker and makes me want to go back to the stock rom.
Thanks for any help.
ps: Sometimes, it is so bad that when I flick the screen up, it would try to go up and then rebound downwards...
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Try fixing permissions and then wipe dalvik/cache. if that don't work, redownload the newest nightly, CHECK MD5, reinstall
I flashed the stock 4.1 ROM back. It was not all that different from a scrolling smoothness perspective. So it seems that the other phone (LG escape) is doing a better job either by s/w (most likely) or h/w.
Given that, I moved away from the stock again, this time to slimbean, and I like it better than the cyanogenmod.
Thanks.
panny2 said:
I flashed the stock 4.1 ROM back. It was not all that different from a scrolling smoothness perspective. So it seems that the other phone (LG escape) is doing a better job either by s/w (most likely) or h/w.
Given that, I moved away from the stock again, this time to slimbean, and I like it better than the cyanogenmod.
Thanks.
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care to mention what was that you like slimbean better than cyanogenmod 10.1
Slimbean vs Cyanogenmod on the Skyrocket
raptorddd said:
care to mention what was that you like slimbean better than cyanogenmod 10.1
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I would say more tasteful/minimalistic customization options. As a very small example choosing to display the battery percentage does not unnecessarily show a battery icon in addition, and also it was customizable to be of different colors while charging/not charging...
More importantly, the notification light via the hardware keys worked on slim bean and not with the cyanogen. This was nice since the skyrocket does not have a dedicated notification light.
Other differences I saw include:
1) The HDR option in the camera is missing in the slimbean, but that is understandable probably since there is no stock HDR option on the camera, and the HDR option that the cyanogenmod came with did not account for even tiny handshake and was unusable.
2) Asking to upgrade to the prime launcher (for $4) was a bit of a bummer with the slimbean. Only the upgrade allows to hide apps etc.
3) On slimbean, press and hold a app icon gives you a small menu to edit/remove/uninstall which is nice.
4) One slightly annoying thing on the slimbean however is the wake up delay after the screen turns off. I have a thread on that here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383338
5) On slimbean, I also like being able to turn off the screen by long pressing the menu button (configurable) instead of reaching for the power button.
6) The APN settings on cyanogen worked right out of the box, whereas on the slimbean I had to add a new APN and choose that to get data connection.
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I would say more tasteful/minimalistic customization options. As a very small example choosing to display the battery percentage does not unnecessarily show a battery icon in addition, and also it was customizable to be of different colors while charging/not charging...
More importantly, the notification light via the hardware keys worked on slim bean and not with the cyanogen. This was nice since the skyrocket does not have a dedicated notification light.
Other differences I saw include:
1) The HDR option in the camera is missing in the slimbean, but that is understandable probably since there is no stock HDR option on the camera, and the HDR option that the cyanogenmod came with did not account for even tiny handshake and was unusable.
2) Asking to upgrade to the prime launcher (for $4) was a bit of a bummer with the slimbean. Only the upgrade allows to hide apps etc.
3) On slimbean, press and hold a app icon gives you a small menu to edit/remove/uninstall which is nice.
4) One slightly annoying thing on the slimbean however is the wake up delay after the screen turns off. I have a thread on that here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383338
5) On slimbean, I also like being able to turn off the screen by long pressing the menu button (configurable) instead of reaching for the power button.
6) The APN settings on cyanogen worked right out of the box, whereas on the slimbean I had to add a new APN and choose that to get data connection.
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Tbh you just don't know what you're doing. A simple kernel and launcher switch will cover most of those differences.
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xcrazydx said:
Tbh you just don't know what you're doing.
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Please read the OP.
http://www.learnersdictionary.com/search/newbie
panny2 said:
Please read the OP.
http://www.learnersdictionary.com/search/newbie
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Like I said, do some more reading. Your issues are simple things.
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panny2 said:
1) The HDR option in the camera is missing in the slimbean, but that is understandable probably since there is no stock HDR option on the camera, and the HDR option that the cyanogenmod came with did not account for even tiny handshake and was unusable.
2) Asking to upgrade to the prime launcher (for $4) was a bit of a bummer with the slimbean. Only the upgrade allows to hide apps etc.
3) On slimbean, press and hold a app icon gives you a small menu to edit/remove/uninstall which is nice.
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As to 1-HDR isn't really possible with the Skyrocket's hardware due to its slow shutter speed.
As to 2-It would be extremely unethical, and probably illegal (not a lawyer, so I can't say for certain) for any developer to distribute the paid version of an app in a release without compensating said app developer for the distribution.
As to 3-Install Nova on CM and you get that option back.
I've just now had a somewhat unhappy experience with applying a custom ROM to my Nexus 5. I decided to apply Dirty Unicorn and to my dismay found 2 things out: the GApps zip flashes but install nothing and "OK, Google" stopped working altogether.
For now, I started with returning to the stock ROM. I have no intention of going without my "OK, Google" and Google Now on the leftmost side of my homescreens.
What I'm looking for in a custom ROM, and would like suggestions for one that would satisfy:
"OK, Google" must work from all homescreens, as well as have Google Now off to the left of said homescreens.
Option to get as many of the currently very white apps (like the dialer and People app) in black and blue or any other color really.
Some basic customization, nothing serious or very fancy.
Any ROM that will do at least these will be welcome. I had RootBox on my SGS2 previously and enjoyed it enough, despite not using anywhere close to it's full potential.
Thanks in advance for any help.
(I'm hoping this topic is in the right forum.)
Anaxim said:
I've just now had a somewhat unhappy experience with applying a custom ROM to my Nexus 5. I decided to apply Dirty Unicorn and to my dismay found 2 things out: the GApps zip flashes but install nothing and "OK, Google" stopped working altogether.
For now, I started with returning to the stock ROM. I have no intention of going without my "OK, Google" and Google Now on the leftmost side of my homescreens.
What I'm looking for in a custom ROM, and would like suggestions for one that would satisfy:
"OK, Google" must work from all homescreens, as well as have Google Now off to the left of said homescreens.
Option to get as many of the currently very white apps (like the dialer and People app) in black and blue or any other color really.
Some basic customization, nothing serious or very fancy.
Any ROM that will do at least these will be welcome. I had RootBox on my SGS2 previously and enjoyed it enough, despite not using anywhere close to it's full potential.
Thanks in advance for any help.
(I'm hoping this topic is in the right forum.)
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Rootbox rom was a mix of PA, aokp, Cyano, Slim etc...
I tried lot of roms, but the only good for me is Cataclysm Rom
because it's smooth and stable like no others
Also Purity is cool
I tried also aosp based rom like Vanir, codename, psx, but
Were buggy and not so stable
Never tried cyan, aokp, PA, beanstalk, madhi
I tried droidkang, really cool rom, fast and stable Cyanogenmod based rom, with a lot of mods & features.. Really really cool rom. If you need mods I think this will be the best for you
Also madhi is receiving lot of positive feedbacks
For me the best is cataclysm, a stockish rom with few but useful mods
Anaxim said:
I've just now had a somewhat unhappy experience with applying a custom ROM to my Nexus 5. I decided to apply Dirty Unicorn and to my dismay found 2 things out: the GApps zip flashes but install nothing and "OK, Google" stopped working altogether.
For now, I started with returning to the stock ROM. I have no intention of going without my "OK, Google" and Google Now on the leftmost side of my homescreens.
What I'm looking for in a custom ROM, and would like suggestions for one that would satisfy:
"OK, Google" must work from all homescreens, as well as have Google Now off to the left of said homescreens.
Option to get as many of the currently very white apps (like the dialer and People app) in black and blue or any other color really.
Some basic customization, nothing serious or very fancy.
Any ROM that will do at least these will be welcome. I had RootBox on my SGS2 previously and enjoyed it enough, despite not using anywhere close to it's full potential.
Thanks in advance for any help.
(I'm hoping this topic is in the right forum.)
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Have you tried pressing/holding the Home button and then swiping up? That should get you to the Google Now screen from any launcher/ROM. I'm on a Beanstalk build using Nova Launcher and it works that way.
Otherwise, you could use the default Google Launcher, that should come with any standard GApps you'd install; there's got to be a forum posting with it available for download around here somewhere, just in case you're missing it. I'm just wondering if it's a ROM issue you're experiencing, where you might otherwise enjoy the ROM, or an apps issue.......
enricocid said:
Rootbox rom was a mix of PA, aokp, Cyano, Slim etc...
I tried lot of roms, but the only good for me is Cataclysm Rom
because it's smooth and stable like no others
Also Purity is cool
I tried also aosp based rom like Vanir, codename, psx, but
Were buggy and not so stable
Never tried cyan, aokp, PA, beanstalk, madhi
I tried droidkang, really cool rom, fast and stable Cyanogenmod based rom, with a lot of mods & features.. Really really cool rom. If you need mods I think this will be the best for you
Also madhi is receiving lot of positive feedbacks
For me the best is cataclysm, a stockist rom with few and useful mods
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Same here, Cataclysm is the most stable so far.