I'm currently running an HTC touch pro 2 and i still have my HTC touch pro. I turned my TP1 on the other day for the first time in many months and the phone picked up a text message, not only did it pick it up, it picked it up at the same time my TP2 did. Unfortunately it hasn't happened since.
What i'd like to know, is there a way i can emulate the IMIE number on the tp2, so that i can have both my TP2 and my TP1 working at the same time.
I want to be able to use my TP1 as a full data device while i make my calls on my TP2 or vice versa.
If you can't post the answer here for what ever reason feel free to private message me.
*edit it will recieve every txt message that is sent to my number but it won't send and it won't take incoming calls.
Good luck with that, cause that aint gonna happen. Well, at least not anyway that I can possibly think of. Carriers wont allow more than one phone per mobile number. They say it isn't possible, but I personally think it IS possible and that they just wont allow it. Technically, it should be able to work. But the problems would fall with the GPS. Even if GPS was on in one device while off on the other, they couldn't track someone if they wanted to. I'm sure there are other reasons to this. I have never heard of what you are experiencing. They probabbly didn't fully remove the old phone's IMIE data from the system, hence why you can receive texts but not send anything. What service are you on?
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Good luck with that, cause that aint gonna happen. Well, at least not anyway that I can possibly think of. Carriers wont allow more than one phone per mobile number. They say it isn't possible, but I personally think it IS possible and that they just wont allow it. Technically, it should be able to work. But the problems would fall with the GPS. Even if GPS was on in one device while off on the other, they couldn't track someone if they wanted to. I'm sure there are other reasons to this. I have never heard of what you are experiencing. They probabbly didn't fully remove the old phone's IMIE data from the system, hence why you can receive texts but not send anything. What service are you on?
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1) unfortunately telus.
2) The GPS on my phones has been completely deactivated except for when I want to turn it on. I refuse to allow someone to turn it on remotely, also in Canada that's akin to wireless phone tapping so the cops can't do it. And even if they could legally i'd still reprogram my phone so they can't.
3) That's my point. If they didn't fully remove it and my old phone can still get the txt messages that means they can re-add the old MEIE numbers back to the system and both should work. OR if i could put an emulator onto my phone or even hard code the MEIE number change on my old phone to the same as my new one...
Remember back in the day when cellphones were still a new thing, the brick and bag phones and so on, well someone figured out how to clone phones and the practice caught on like wildfire and since then has been literally outlawed. AS IN IT IS ILLEGAL TO CLONE ONE OR MORE PHONES TO THE SAME IMEI, MSID, DEC OR HEX SERIAL TO GAIN USE OF MULTIPLE PHONES ON THE SAME LINE AT THE SAME TIME. Not being mean or an ass to you, but I would research this a little bit and tread lightly on the subject. Stuff like this is not tolerated very well on xda.
Plus, now it would be almost impossible to do this with any carrier as the data the phone sends out is not just what you want it to. Whenever it connects to the network is sends and receives configuration data such as manufacturer and model among other things and will throw red flags if it doesnt match up to what the expected result of the data sent and received to the network and carrier has on file.
Again, tread lightly on this path.
"AS IN IT IS ILLEGAL TO CLONE" I'm serious, I'd like to see an actual Canadian law stating this. And if it's not illegal in Canada then it's a legit question. Well it's still legit.
"not tolerated very well on xda." Why? the whole point of these forums is to learn and teach people how to modify their phones. If they didn't want people sharing this information they should never have started this website to begin with.
As to my actual question and as to one stated answer
"They probably didn't fully remove the old phone's IMIE data from the system"
If it's still partially in the system that means it could be wholly in the system and means it should be able to be done. If they say it can't but i'm still getting txts on both phones that means the carriers are lying and are just making excuses to get more money. If thats all it is i'll do my best to get every penny out of them for every penny they're stealing from me.
Ok rant done, how do I clone my IMIE number? (no i won't tread lightly)
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"AS IN IT IS ILLEGAL TO CLONE" I'm serious, I'd like to see an actual Canadian law stating this. And if it's not illegal in Canada then it's a legit question. Well it's still legit.
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its considered fraud under the law in most counties, like changing the VIN on a car, even if there isnt a specific law to deal with it
and besides that, its against the rules of this forum, so even if it was legal to do its not ok to ask about here
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its considered fraud under the law in most counties, like changing the VIN on a car, even if there isnt a specific law to deal with it
and besides that, its against the rules of this forum, so even if it was legal to do its not ok to ask about here
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Your making a mountain out of a mole hill and there is a very real difference between a 6 or 8 hundred dollar phone and 15 thousand dollar plus car; unless you own both then i see no issue switching out the vin, as long as you own the cars.
as to being the against forum policy i challenge that on the simple fact there is nothing wrong with sharing knowledge.
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Your making a mountain out of a mole hill and there is a very real difference between a 6 or 8 hundred dollar phone and 15 thousand dollar plus car; unless you own both then i see no issue switching out the vin, as long as you own the cars.
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as to being the against forum policy i challenge that on the simple fact there is nothing wrong with sharing knowledge.
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I can't trace out anywhere where they say cloning your phones IMIE is illegal in Canada, and i also just got of the phone with HTC and they said they don't know of any laws saying it is.
As to the forum admins, they are allowed to disagree, but i'll be they want to know just as much as I do.
Another thread (closed) on this site which discusses ESN cloning: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380172
Just search on google, and you will find what you need. There are programs like cdma workshop out there.
I know this is a touchy subject due to the potentially illegal uses of IMEI numbers. Let me be very clear, I want to restore MY original IMEI number. Here is my situation:
Through various ROM flashes I have changed my IMEI number. Kies says my device in unregistered because I have the wrong IMEI. I wanted to try going back to stock since GB is now available without using a custom ROM. I have my device's original IMEI number saved in a document (in case it was ever stolen). I do not have a backup of my original EFS folder, only the IMEI number itself saved in a text document.
Is there any way for me to manually input my devices IMEI number and save it back into my phone?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881162
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Thanks for the suggestion. I had already seen this, but since it was talking about setting the values to a "generic" setting I was trying to avoid it. I tried it anyway and it didn't fix the problem. I unrooted the phone and took it to AT&T. The problem ended up being that the APN setting couldn't be accessed and they weren't configured. The rep was able to do a hard reset. Not sure what kind of reset it was though. Not factory. It didn't revert back to Froyo, but it did remove all the apps (to include all google apps) I had to reinstall the market and restart the phone before it would work. Anyway, everything seems to be working fine now. I just wish I could have seen what the rep was doing so I could describe the solution better, but he was on the other side of the counter and didn't seem to want me to see.
IMei Problems in turkey and registration rules
Hi there
I know this will probably yield me a "no its illegal" reply but please hear me out on this. Im a good person!
I moved to turkey 6 months ago to work here as an IT teacher in an international school. I brought with me my lovely HTC HD2 which i had hacked using XDA software to now run andoid (was very pleased with my phone). registered my phone here with my passport. The phone then broke and while trying to fix it I snapped some of the internal data cables...
I have my old HTC wildfire here but cant use it on the GSM network as im only allowed to register 1 phone to my passport every two years!
I know its not technically allowed but i was thinking of changing the imei on my wildfire to that of my broken (but registered) HTC HD2 and was figuring if i got caught for it that they would see that the imei number is in fact registered to me anyway.
I have searched high and low for solutions for this. I found the Iwizard but I think that this was released in 2007 and my phone was released in 2010 so i am presuming that this will not work. also had some problems and questions about using activesync on my windows 7 computer along with presuming that I cant connect an android phone to activesync.
As I said before. Im not tying to commit a crime here but just trying not to go out and spend lots of money (and phones do cost lots of money here) on buying a turkish phone.
if anyone can help then please let me know
my email is [email protected]
cheers..
Thats called cloning. Will not be discussed here as it is illegal in the states and many other places. Check Turkish law, they may not have any laws against it, however you would still be on your own as its not discussed here.
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just because something is illegal doesnt mean it is illegal to discuss it. it is called freedom of speech. this guy stated he wish he knew how to clone a phone. if you preface your response with the fact the information is not intended for illegal use, you are not aiding anyone. he is responsible for his own actions. a good example of this is when a group attempted to ban "the anarchists cookbook" , a judge ruled that even though the book detailed how to construct illegal devices it could not be baned. the judge cited the first amendment.
i would never advise anyone to break a law but i would not look down on anyone who seeks information. my point is this: it is illegal to make TNT in your basement but it is not illegal to speak or write about how TNT is made. the op should seek his information on the web elsewhere since xda is not for q and a for phone cloning. there are many web sites that explain cloning and it is not illegal to read or write about this matter.
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Uh ya, and in short, its not discussed on XDA. I never trounced on anyone's freedom of speech.
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just because something is illegal doesnt mean it is illegal to discuss it. it is called freedom of speech. this guy stated he wish he knew how to clone a phone. if you preface your response with the fact the information is not intended for illegal use, you are not aiding anyone. he is responsible for his own actions. a good example of this is when a group attempted to ban "the anarchists cookbook" , a judge ruled that even though the book detailed how to construct illegal devices it could not be baned. the judge cited the first amendment.
i would never advise anyone to break a law but i would not look down on anyone who seeks information. my point is this: it is illegal to make TNT in your basement but it is not illegal to speak or write about how TNT is made. the op should seek his information on the web elsewhere since xda is not for q and a for phone cloning. there are many web sites that explain cloning and it is not illegal to read or write about this matter.
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It's not about whether or not it is illegal for the topic to be discussed. If you allow potentially illegal information to be placed on the forum freely then you open the community up to unnecessary scrutiny. There are a lot of people out there that do not like developers helping people alter there mobile devices. Yes it's legal, but it also pisses a lot of companies off. So one way the community protects itself is through self-censorship.
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Thats called cloning. Will not be discussed here as it is illegal in the states and many other places. Check Turkish law, they may not have any laws against it, however you would still be on your own as its not discussed here.
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cheers for taking the time to at least explain this. I was under the impression that someone from XDA had previously posted software on here for the very purpose i am describing in my last post (re turkey). I saw a screen capture of the software (iwizard) and it has a picture of a turkish cup of tea on it. I was guessing that XDA had decided to help people in turkey with the the registration issues we have. But after about 1 week of free time spent searching the internet for solutions I am ready to give in and just go out and buy a turkish mobile phone (can sell me blocked one in england next time i go home) .
Cheers and thanks for all the great software I have previously had from the site for my HTC HD2
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Hi folks,
I'm a long-time lurker here and I have benefited massively from all the advice and threads for various phones throughout the years. I wanted to give back a little to the community: please be aware that the same way that U11 had massive issues on AT&T getting 4G/LTE support (not to mention VoLTE etc), the Essential is in the same boat. No 4G/LTE at all.
You will see some people do have it and might be confused as to why the inconsistency of results. The reason for that is typically that they brought their SIM over from their previous phone, which in their case AT&T did have listed and fully enabled features-wise in their database (the IMEI of the older phone).
To be clear, this is a crappy move by AT&T, not necessarily HTC/Essential (but similarly these companies should work with the carriers to get their devices working, OnePlus did it just fine with the 5), but as an end-user you are screwed either way. I would recommend cancelling the order if you can (I could not), and returning if you can (I also seem to be having trouble, no replies at all).
Good luck to you all. If anyone knows how to get AT&T to change the IMEI associated with your account for a dummy IMEI/one that confirmed does work, please let the rest of us know.
Best,
Fed
Fed P said:
Hi folks,
I'm a long-time lurker here and I have benefited massively from all the advice and threads for various phones throughout the years. I wanted to give back a little to the community: please be aware that the same way that U11 had massive issues on AT&T getting 4G/LTE support (not to mention VoLTE etc), the Essential is in the same boat. No 4G/LTE at all.
You will see some people do have it and might be confused as to why the inconsistency of results. The reason for that is typically that they brought their SIM over from their previous phone, which in their case AT&T did have listed and fully enabled features-wise in their database (the IMEI of the older phone).
To be clear, this is a crappy move by AT&T, not necessarily HTC/Essential (but similarly these companies should work with the carriers to get their devices working, OnePlus did it just fine with the 5), but as an end-user you are screwed either way. I would recommend cancelling the order if you can (I could not), and returning if you can (I also seem to be having trouble, no replies at all).
Good luck to you all. If anyone knows how to get AT&T to change the IMEI associated with your account for a dummy IMEI/one that confirmed does work, please let the rest of us know.
Best,
Fed
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Fed P said:
Hi folks,
I'm a long-time lurker here and I have benefited massively from all the advice and threads for various phones throughout the years. I wanted to give back a little to the community: please be aware that the same way that U11 had massive issues on AT&T getting 4G/LTE support (not to mention VoLTE etc), the Essential is in the same boat. No 4G/LTE at all.
You will see some people do have it and might be confused as to why the inconsistency of results. The reason for that is typically that they brought their SIM over from their previous phone, which in their case AT&T did have listed and fully enabled features-wise in their database (the IMEI of the older phone).
To be clear, this is a crappy move by AT&T, not necessarily HTC/Essential (but similarly these companies should work with the carriers to get their devices working, OnePlus did it just fine with the 5), but as an end-user you are screwed either way. I would recommend cancelling the order if you can (I could not), and returning if you can (I also seem to be having trouble, no replies at all).
Good luck to you all. If anyone knows how to get AT&T to change the IMEI associated with your account for a dummy IMEI/one that confirmed does work, please let the rest of us know.
Best,
Fed
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Yes, like I said, you will only face this issue if you give your Essential's IMEI to AT&T. I'm guessing you didn't do that, and just came from your old phone? I had no choice, because I needed a new SIM card.
I just got off the phone with AT&T too. They confirmed this phone model (and brand) is not even in their systems, which is why it drops down to the minimum spec. This is exactly what happened with the HTC U11, I can confirm that now. They said they would try to correctly provision the device, but since that is a slow process (up to 2 weeks), I will try to return it in all likelihood.
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Yes, like I said, you will only face this issue if you give your Essential's IMEI to AT&T. I'm guessing you didn't do that, and just came from your old phone? I had no choice, because I needed a new SIM card.
I just got off the phone with AT&T too. They confirmed this phone model (and brand) is not even in their systems, which is why it drops down to the minimum spec. This is exactly what happened with the HTC U11, I can confirm that now. They said they would try to correctly provision the device, but since that is a slow process (up to 2 weeks), I will try to return it in all likelihood.
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Definitely didn't do that. The phone is unlocked and coming from an unlocked phone. Put in the sim and kept it moving.
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Definitely didn't do that. The phone is unlocked and coming from an unlocked phone. Put in the sim and kept it moving.
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Yes, my previous phone was also unlocked. It actually has very little to do with the phone - it is about what IMEI AT&T has associated with your number (*not* your actual IMEI). From that, it decides what features to enable for you.
Fed P said:
Yes, like I said, you will only face this issue if you give your Essential's IMEI to AT&T. I'm guessing you didn't do that, and just came from your old phone? I had no choice, because I needed a new SIM card.
I just got off the phone with AT&T too. They confirmed this phone model (and brand) is not even in their systems, which is why it drops down to the minimum spec. This is exactly what happened with the HTC U11, I can confirm that now. They said they would try to correctly provision the device, but since that is a slow process (up to 2 weeks), I will try to return it in all likelihood.
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Just a perfect thread for this perfect post: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...lte-faster-and-fixes-all-your-problems.77304/
Ask me any questions you might have as I created the thread and all the contents in it.
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Just a perfect thread for this perfect post: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...lte-faster-and-fixes-all-your-problems.77304/
Ask me any questions you might have as I created the thread and all the contents in it.
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That's definitely good info for some, but the issue here is unfortunately not solved by anything in that thread. As your first step goes "The OnePlus One and 2 IMEI is supported by AT&T so give them a call and tell them to enter the IMEI." - the Essential IMEI is not supported, that's the root cause of the problem. It's silly because it could have been prevented by either company (by AT&T by not defaulting to 3G only for unknown devices, or by Essential by working with AT&T to get certified on their network like all other manufacturers do).
I never experienced any 4G/LTE/VoLTE issues with my unlocked U11 on AT&T at all, whether it was completely stock or unlocked bootloader and rooted. Everything worked from the start and still going great today.
I was previously using an unlocked HTC 10 (also on AT&T) and just swapped the SIM in to the U11. No contact necessary with AT&T. So I imagine it'll be the same when I receive the Essential, even though I'm pretty positive I'll be returning it for a refund, unfortunately.
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Yes, like I said, you will only face this issue if you give your Essential's IMEI to AT&T. I'm guessing you didn't do that, and just came from your old phone? I had no choice, because I needed a new SIM card.
I just got off the phone with AT&T too. They confirmed this phone model (and brand) is not even in their systems, which is why it drops down to the minimum spec. This is exactly what happened with the HTC U11, I can confirm that now. They said they would try to correctly provision the device, but since that is a slow process (up to 2 weeks), I will try to return it in all likelihood.
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Borrow a phone from a friend and have them set up the SIM on that phone.
Swap back when you are done.
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In the thread, I gave you guys an option to create a fake imei that would get 4g lte for you on att.
Ask me any questions as I have done this before.
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That takes time and I found a thread which can help you really quickly.
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Do not post threads about messing with the imei. It is illegal in many countries and as such banned here. Any talks of it will earn people a one way trip to bansville
Try resetting your network settings. I had an issue with one of my Essentials on Verizon and that did the trick.
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Do not post threads about messing with the imei. It is illegal in many countries and as such banned here. Any talks of it will earn people a one way trip to bansville
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Absolutely right !
According to our Forum rules no IMEI talks / links / workarounds or anything related is forbidden
16. Apps that collect identifying details
We don't routinely remove Apps that collect identifying numbers or other personal and device identifiers.
However, should an App, developed by you, be identified as one that maliciously performs this activity (e.g. by not disclosing it to the user), it will be removed from the site and possible sanctions applied;
If the destination of this information is known, it must be made known in the disclosure (examples of this would be you having coded your App to collect IMEI for authentication of the device using it)
If the destination of this information is unknown (as is the case for ad. engines, which collect it for marketing purposes), then please state which ad. provider you are using, in the disclaimer
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That being said , a small cleaning has been performed
Also encouraging our XDA users to participate on other phones related forum will be ... discouraged
11. Don’t post with the intention of selling something.
Don’t use XDA to advertise your product or service. Proprietors of for-pay products or services, may use XDA to get feedback, provide beta access, or a free version of their product for XDA users and to offer support, but not to post with the intention of selling. This includes promoting sites similar / substantially similar to XDA-Developers.com.
Do not post press releases, announcements, links to trial software or commercial services, unless you’re posting an exclusive release for XDA-Developers.com.
Encouraging members to participate in forum activities on other phone related sites is prohibited.
Off-site downloads are permitted if the site is non-commercial and does not require registration.
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zelendel said:
Do not post threads about messing with the imei. It is illegal in many countries and as such banned here. Any talks of it will earn people a one way trip to bansville
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Who says I'm changing the Imei of the phone. All I'm doing is having the person call the carrier to tell them to change the Imei. I'm not stealing anyone's imei , I give tools to check to see if the imei is available and not used by anyone .
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Absolutely right !
According to our Forum rules no IMEI talks / links / workarounds or anything related is forbidden
That being said , a small cleaning has been performed
Also encouraging our XDA users to participate on other phones related forum will be ... discouraged
Thanks for understanding and especially @bestlands
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Dan I understand but people need to know how to do this. If the carrier they have isn't willing to help them, it's not the manufacturers fault or the users fault. The only point of that thread was for no one to suffer because of the business decisions att decided to inflict on there users
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Who says I'm changing the Imei of the phone. All I'm doing is having the person call the carrier to tell them to change the Imei. I'm not stealing anyone's imei , I give tools to check to see if the imei is available and not used by anyone .
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would you please expand this ?
quote from your innocent link that I have removed above
STEP 1 - Generating an IMEI
In order for the One to be able to access the LTE network, AT&T needs to think that we're using an "official LTE" device (basically any smartphone in their lineup for the past two years). And to do that, we need to give them the IMEI of an official LTE device. WE WILL NOT BE STEALING PEOPLE'S IMEIs.We're going to create our own to give to AT&T. For this guide, we will trick AT&T into thinking that our OPO is actually an HTC One VX.
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You`re guiding people how to " make a carrier THINK you have an official IMEI " ?
if this is OK in your opinion then what else can one do with an IMEI which "someone thinks it belongs to a certain carrier" ?
Do I miss something here ?
bestlands said:
Dan I understand but people need to know how to do this. If the carrier they have isn't willing to help them, it's not the manufacturers fault or the users fault. The only point of that thread was for no one to suffer because of the business decisions att decided to inflict on there users
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The users must personally contact their carriers and also check before purchasing a device whether their carrier works on it or not.
Providing such tools which creates fake IMEIs or make the carrier "think" are not welcomed here , I don`t know and don`t care about other forums , one of the reasons why we , as I said above , do not allow encouraging users to participate on other phones related forums. Other forums may have different policies , we have ours and must be followed .
IMEI talks are not allowed here , as simple as that
16. Apps that collect identifying details
We don't routinely remove Apps that collect identifying numbers or other personal and device identifiers.
However, should an App, developed by you, be identified as one that maliciously performs this activity (e.g. by not disclosing it to the user), it will be removed from the site and possible sanctions applied;
If the destination of this information is known, it must be made known in the disclosure (examples of this would be you having coded your App to collect IMEI for authentication of the device using it)
If the destination of this information is unknown (as is the case for ad. engines, which collect it for marketing purposes), then please state which ad. provider you are using, in the disclaimer
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One can argue till tomorrow and swear on what he wants that "WE WILL NOT BE STEALING PEOPLE'S IMEIs" , on XDA doesn`t work this way
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would you please expand this ?
quote from your innocent link that I have removed above
You`re guiding people how to " make a carrier THINK you have an official IMEI " ?
if this is OK in your opinion then what else can one do with an IMEI which "someone thinks it belongs to a certain carrier" ?
Do I miss something here ?
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Just so we put it out of the way first, I didn't write that thread. I wrote this one; https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...lte-faster-and-fixes-all-your-problems.77304/
What do you mean what can someone do with an imei when someone thinks belongs to a certain carrier. I don't know how this stuff works overseas but we in the USA don't ask peoples for there imei when they switch phones, we only do it to start activating service with a carrier, or if the person came from a 3g to 4g lte smartphone we will ask them to activate it. For some reason, still to this day, ATT thinks that every imei not in its system, will fall back to 3g. So getting back to your question, If essential even did get the correct certification to use on att network, it will take months or almost a full year for them to start accepted essentials imei. Honestly you can't do much with an imei, you can blacklist the phone, but that phone will still work on overseas network, and the other possibity here is Sprint which still required the imei to be merged with the sim card can cause problems if the imei you created is going to be used by that network. Other than that the possibility of generated imei's isn't that big of a deal as it was even 5 years ago.
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xanthrax said:
The users must personally contact their carriers and also check before purchasing a device whether their carrier works on it or not.
Providing such tools which creates fake IMEIs or make the carrier "think" are not welcomed here , I don`t know and don`t care about other forums , one of the reasons why we , as I said above , do not allow encouraging users to participate on other phones related forums. Other forums may have different policies , we have ours and must be followed .
IMEI talks are not allowed here , as simple as that
One can argue till tomorrow and swear on what he wants that "WE WILL NOT BE STEALING PEOPLE'S IMEIs" , on XDA doesn`t work this way
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So can you explain to me why XDA does this? I see only one potential threat and thats blacklisted imeis but the carriers in the USA are so bad, that they allow bad imei;s to go through as well as telling you the phone works when it doesn't because of incompetent reps, plus they don't have the imei of that phone. If talked to people and have done this before so i know how hard it takes and also the frustration people have over this. Kinda boils down to why people use an iPhone, it just works from day 1, but thats a story for another day.
Fed P said:
Yes, my previous phone was also unlocked. It actually has very little to do with the phone - it is about what IMEI AT&T has associated with your number (*not* your actual IMEI). From that, it decides what features to enable for you.
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Do you know if ATT has the Essential Phone registered in their system yet? I need a new sim and I am heading to the store today. Thanks.
12paq said:
Do you know if ATT has the Essential Phone registered in their system yet? I need a new sim and I am heading to the store today. Thanks.
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Hi 12paq,
I've sent the Essential Phone back... I don't know if they added the model/brand in general, but I know their claim to manually edit my IMEI to be 4G-capable still hasn't happened - because I don't have 4G on this SIM card now regardless of phone (since the network still thinks it's in the Essential).
Fed P said:
Hi 12paq,
I've sent the Essential Phone back... I don't know if they added the model/brand in general, but I know their claim to manually edit my IMEI to be 4G-capable still hasn't happened - because I don't have 4G on this SIM card now regardless of phone (since the network still thinks it's in the Essential).
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Thanks for your time!
I already have the ph-1 up and running on an old sim card and I get 4g. The problem is the sim card is failing and I have a new unregistered sim in hand. Just wondering if I put a new card in and then activate it, will att still be a problem. In short is it the card or the phone?
So just to be clear since there is some confusion here about IMEI spoofing etc (this is illegal) - the problem with all this is purely, and I mean PURELY, what IMEI AT&T has in it's database for you. For reasons I cannot comprehend, AT&T does *NOT* just take your actual device IMEI (this is what you should not be changing). So in your case 12paq, if you activate a new SIM and this does not involve telling AT&T to update your IMEI in their database, and you have 4G now, you will have it in the Essential.