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I use advanced task killer and minutes later I see MP3 Store, and Messages running. Before I saw a few others. Are they set to start running in memory for some reason? Not sure if they eat up much juice, but I wonder if I can make a list of certain ones and disable their start up somehow. Is there a task killter that blocks startups?
same here we need something to block these apps
Messages is required to recieve MMS (Even if you use handcent or chomp or something else as your main client). We tried removing that once in the hero forums and it caused ALL sorts of problems and force closes)
The mp3 store is usually ok to remove though.
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Messages is required to recieve MMS (Even if you use handcent or chomp or something else as your main client). We tried removing that once in the hero forums and it caused ALL sorts of problems and force closes)
The mp3 store is usually ok to remove though.
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Thanks codemonk,
Do you know that setting in advance task killer is that says "auto kill level"? It is set to disable now, but what does it do? Thanks.
jeffrimerman said:
Thanks codemonk,
Do you know that setting in advance task killer is that says "auto kill level"? It is set to disable now, but what does it do? Thanks.
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I'm not sure...I avoid task killers as a rule (I installed one earlier to test something for an earlier thread and uninstalled afterwards once I got my info).
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/ - This should provide some good info on it.
The better solution, especially for apps that you don't intend on using, is uninstalling the app (there's a whole thread talking about which ones are safe to remove).
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I'm not sure...I avoid task killers as a rule (I installed one earlier to test something for an earlier thread and uninstalled afterwards once I got my info).
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/ - This should provide some good info on it.
The better solution, especially for apps that you don't intend on using, is uninstalling the app (there's a whole thread talking about which ones are safe to remove).
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yeah, that is a great idea. I imagine if I wanted it back I could just install it again. Thanks Codemonk.
Why do you need those apps not running? Android will kill them if it needs more memory.
Why are people obsessed with killing stuff? It's not like your phone runs better with 192mb of free memory vs 163mb...
it actually does, as well as lets the battery last longer since it isnt using as much processing power
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Why do you need those apps not running? Android will kill them if it needs more memory.
Why are people obsessed with killing stuff? It's not like your phone runs better with 192mb of free memory vs 163mb...
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Let the phone run for a good 12 hours. I was down to 42MB free basically idling and only using Handcent. Killed a few tasks and back up to 175 and everything is snappy again.
I don't like having to use a task killer, I didn't have to with my N1.
maybe there will be an app like Scotty for windows 7. I check and a bunch of bloatware starts on it's own. It's all marketing bs. When there is a nice root stripped down, with all the nice stuff enabled I'll do that.
download startup auditor from the market. great little app to select and unselect which apps you want to load when the phone powers up. only costs $0.99 usd
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download startup auditor from the market. great little app to select and unselect which apps you want to load when the phone powers up. only costs $0.99 usd
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So if I leave it to no apps, will it load up with 0 apps running? Will it also prevent apps from randomly starting after phone is already on? Sounds like a nice app.
Unless startup auditor disables the service there is a list of apps that will randomly start up at times. I went into the application settings and apps like MP3 store don't have an option to uninstall.
I have used task killer to kill all apps and within minutes some start again.
"thecodemonk" why do you not use a task killer. I have only had an Android phone about 24 hours now and got a lot to learn.
First thing being how to enable tethering.
I have mine set to "safe" and it auto closes things when screen goes black.
Make sure you "IGNORE" certain apps... like the clock or else your alarm wont work... I almost over slept
I have the following set to ignore:
Messages
Handcent
clock
gmail
Mort Music player
Fastbright
Check out the application "Autokiller." This comes with preset values (optimum, moderate, aggressive, etc.) so that apps will be killed off once your free memory drops below a certain point. This app works great, but it does REQUIRE root to function and must be rebooted to finish applying the settings. Also lists all apps, processes, and services which can be killed off manually as well.
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Check out the application "Autokiller." This comes with preset values (optimum, moderate, aggressive, etc.) so that apps will be killed off once your free memory drops below a certain point. This app works great, but it does REQUIRE root to function and must be rebooted to finish applying the settings. Also lists all apps, processes, and services which can be killed off manually as well.
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I've been trying to find AutoKiller, yet I can't find it in the market. Is it here on the forums?
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I've been trying to find AutoKiller, yet I can't find it in the market. Is it here on the forums?
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It is in market, search "autokiller". Requires root access, but I can confirm it is working fine.
Wanted to add that I am annoyed by programs that I never intend to use running in the background. From recovery I used Android Commander to quickly select and delete every .apk in /system/app that I never wanted to see again.
Helo guys saw this topic and was over at androidcentral and saw this article which talks about an app that would kill any app that autostarts.
won't let me post links as i'm a new user, but go to androidcentral and look for the article about the app autostarts or just google "autostarts"
using task panel to kill the "junk" like amazon and mp3 store- also any program that doesnt attach itself to things like facebook or messages - i use skyfire so i have set that to autokill but leave the "internet" running..
i also use this to switch between apps running.. having to hit back back back or even going to home then program list then finding it is a long process.. for example ...
i get a handcent message - go into the threaded sms- type and im done - holding down the home screen doesnt pop all the programs up - therfor i set task panel up to stay on my status bar and hit it then go to the program i want.
Can I disable qwikvid, market, and all the otherstuff that seems to run on its own without having to constantly go into a task manager to kill those apps?
Depends on app, if system doesn't use it, use titanium backup to freeze it.
I think this should be in the Q&A section. But answering your question, I don't think there's a way to stop an app from running randomly, except in events such as boot. You may wanna check out the app called Autostart in the market. You should keep in mind though that task killers do more harm than good. Android's memory management on 2.3 and up is very efficient.
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I wouldn't recommend AutoStarts, never worked for me.
Anyways, to answer your question, there should be settings within those apps to disable them from auto-running. If there isn't and the app is misbehaving you can either determine if you want to keep the app, and freeze it, or uninstall it.
As far as I know, market will autorun if you have apps set to update automatically, or if you have background data enabled it will run to check for updates. Haven't figured out how to stop that one yet.
And I don't personally use qwikvid, but isn't that the wifi calling app? If so, it's probably autorunning to make sure your phone is available to handle calls, probably used as a push notification type thing.
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I think this should be in the Q&A section. But answering your question, I don't think there's a way to stop an app from running randomly, except in events such as boot. You may wanna check out the app called Autostart in the market. You should keep in mind though that task killers do more harm than good. Android's memory management on 2.3 and up is very efficient.
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So am I to assume that freezing those apps wont give me any tangible benefit?
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So am I to assume that freezing those apps wont give me any tangible benefit?
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Depends. If you want to use those apps, than freezing will sort of uninstall them (it actually sort of deactivates them). They are unusable once frozen and can only be used again if you unfreeze them. This is used usually for apps that come pre installed on the phone that you are not gonna use.
I don't think there's a way to stop an app from randomly starting. It's just how it works on Android. I wouldn't worry about this too much. As I said, Google has done a good job on memory management.
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You can revoke start on boot permissions for the app if you're on cm 7. That should do the trick.
I'm not sure if everybody uses this, but Autostarts is one of my favorite root apps and I recommend it to all of my friends who have rooted. I don't see too many people talking about it anymore so I figured I would remind everyone of this awesome app. It allows you to prevent any apps from running on their own. After using Titanium Backup to debloat my ROM, I then open up Autostarts and run down the list and disable any apps that I don't want to startup without my say so. It does wonders for freeing up RAM. I did this on my Epic 4G Touch and never needed to flash a single custom ROM because I was able to get the stock ROM running flawlessly. It is an invaluable tool to me and I recommend it highly.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts
broken link?
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broken link?
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My bad, I just fixed it.
I know this is old post, but I bought this app a long time ago also. It's a pretty powerful app and you can modify every reason for an app to start.
I vote to move this to the App section.
rom toolbox also has this feature
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rom toolbox also has this feature
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Yep! I actually like ROM Toolbox's feature a little better now. It's got an easier layout.
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Yep! I actually like ROM Toolbox's feature a little better now. It's got an easier layout.
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Hahaha! Last night I just found this feature in ROM toolbox and was about to post it here!!
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I'm not sure if everybody uses this, but Autostarts is one of my favorite root apps and I recommend it to all of my friends who have rooted. I don't see too many people talking about it anymore so I figured I would remind everyone of this awesome app. It allows you to prevent any apps from running on their own. After using Titanium Backup to debloat my ROM, I then open up Autostarts and run down the list and disable any apps that I don't want to startup without my say so. It does wonders for freeing up RAM. I did this on my Epic 4G Touch and never needed to flash a single custom ROM because I was able to get the stock ROM running flawlessly. It is an invaluable tool to me and I recommend it highly.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts
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Is it able to disable Google Play from starting up at boot? I´ve disabled the event I consider to be associated with Google Play (with Autostarts), but still the app launches by itself at every reboot...
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Is it able to disable Google Play from starting up at boot? I´ve disabled the event I consider to be associated with Google Play (with Autostarts), but still the app launches by itself at every reboot...
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no, it will not. more importantly, google maps is a battery hog, and a privacy killer, and it is also unable to be killed. not by gemini app manager, nor in conjunction with autostarts. google maps will report everywhere you go, and there is nothing you can do about it.
if only someone (windows maybe?) would come out with a nifty phone and declare "Hey we won't sell your soul!" i would so be on board. HTC is slowly drowning themselves, so i am finally, after 6 years, ready to move on to a new brand, and wouldn't mind leaving google behind.
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no, it will not. more importantly, google maps is a battery hog, and a privacy killer, and it is also unable to be killed. not by gemini app manager, nor in conjunction with autostarts. google maps will report everywhere you go, and there is nothing you can do about it.
if only someone (windows maybe?) would come out with a nifty phone and declare "Hey we won't sell your soul!" i would so be on board. HTC is slowly drowning themselves, so i am finally, after 6 years, ready to move on to a new brand, and wouldn't mind leaving google behind.
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Thanks man.:good:
If your interested I managed to disable Maps from always being on the background on my system . What I did? Used Titanium Backup (Pro edition) to convert it to a user app (because it needs to be so, for the next step). After, used a free app called Greenify (you may find it on the Play Store), to "hibernate" Maps at boot time. Result: No more Google Maps on the background . This app is great! You should give it a try. Maybe you may keep your HTC a few more years using it
Unfortunatly trying the same for Google Play messes with its app update functions... that is why I ask.
Hope it helps you on the Maps issue.
Any other ideas anyone?
i use gemini app manager itll stop it all but also remember that certain actions also stop it from updating the market so be careful which autostart functions u stop: although there are more than just at boot for most apps
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Thanks man.:good:
If your interested I managed to disable Maps from always being on the background on my system . What I did? Used Titanium Backup (Pro edition) to convert it to a user app
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Mine is already a user app..?
imma reinstall autostarts see if it has stopped working correctly. i know many instances can trigger apps so you can't just disable on startup for it not to run. but i remember disabling maps in like 3-4 places and it stopped starting unless i told it to start.
I have maps disabled completely in both autostarts and Gemini app manager. And maps is still my #1 battery drain. often my phone displays the gps signal when I wake it up, even though I haven't used maps in days.
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Mine is already a user app..?
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Ok. Good. But did you follow the rest of my post? Have you used Greenify to stop Maps from loading? It works perfectly for me.
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I have maps disabled completely in both autostarts and Gemini app manager. And maps is still my #1 battery drain. often my phone displays the gps signal when I wake it up, even though I haven't used maps in days.
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I do really advise you to try Greenify
Greenify does the same thing right?
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Greenify does the same thing right?
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You may use both in conjunction. Hell, I´m using Autostarts, Autorun Manager (for its simplicity) and Greenify. You just have to know what apps/events are disabled/enabled in them.
Greenify is a little diferent in the way that it hibernats apps when they are not being used/when with the screen off. It works of boot and is really pretty helpfull on those "stubburn" apps that do wish to always remain in the background. With Greenify on they are gone! For good .
Check it on Play Store for more info. Older versions seemed to have some issues with superuser access, with the new one, that seems fixed. It is a great app IMO, saves LOTS of battery and enables a little more ram available for things that do matter (good specially for phones with low RAM memory chips). In the case of your phone you will mainly notice an improvement in battery life, since RAM seems not an issue.
You should try it out
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Ok. Good. But did you follow the rest of my post? Have you used Greenify to stop Maps from loading? It works perfectly for me.
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I do really advise you to try Greenify
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Yes I did! And it worked well! Thanks a bunch! Battery life has been great since that very moment! Over 24 hours and still 70%!
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Yes I did! And it worked well! Thanks a bunch! Battery life has been great since that very moment! Over 24 hours and still 70%!
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Maps, as you said, has got several instances and events triggered for the most crazy things (at least in my book - since I do not need many of them), and that was why it still kept restarting even after all events disabled (there should be hidden ones related to other apps still operating in a complex interconection). At least that is how I imagine it was working. Greenify manages to hibernate it altogether (Titanium style), with the advantage of being "quicker" "unhibernating" it when needed. No complains for me so far
Glad it helped. It seems an excelent app!
See you:good:
Re: Greenify
Just bought titanium backup pro to use in conjunction with Greenify. $6 to stop maps and facebook from eating half of my battery. Totally worth it IMO.
Kudos to whoever suggested the app first.
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hi, I have been reviewing various bootup type apps (autorun manager, startup manager [no ICS support?], etc) to try to find one that just prevents an app from loading (until i need it and start it manually of course) as opposed to killing the app when it tries to load during boot (which, i seems to be what many of these autorun kinda apps do).
So i was wondering if there is an app that prevents selected apps from starting at bootup. Any ideas would be appreciated!
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Look up vault apk root. In google. It freezes apps fully. Its not in the play store. And doesn't work on ics
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Autostarts
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Check out System tuner in the play store. I have the paid pro version and it allows me to disable apps on startup, not sure if its in the free version. But if you can, buy it, it has tons of options and is a fantastic app.
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I use autorun manager, romtoolbox by jrummy has it too as does Gemini app manager
Try to use ES File Manager. It's free and lots of functionality.
Agree with imppy, has worked a treat for me. Requires root.
Check out "Autostarts"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts
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Check out System tuner in the play store. I have the paid pro version and it allows me to disable apps on startup, not sure if its in the free version. But if you can, buy it, it has tons of options and is a fantastic app.
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it IS in free version and it works fine for me.
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ROM Toolbox Lite
Auto Start Manager
Control apps that run on start-up by enabling or disabling them. Enable or disable any broadcast receiver for any app.
So, you can disable an app's startup at boot and then enable it whenever you want. Persistent across reboots.
Not like freezing, unfreezing, and then having to start the app. And then repeating before each reboot.
Autostarts looked good enough for me to buy it, question to those of you using it; How much can you disable? Has there been any crashes or issues that seem tied to this? If i disabled all of the autostarts would my phone still be fine or would it seriously mess with things
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Autostarts looked good enough for me to buy it, question to those of you using it; How much can you disable? Has there been any crashes or issues that seem tied to this? If i disabled all of the autostarts would my phone still be fine or would it seriously mess with things
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Some apps are mantatory for system's good health, so be carefull what you are disabling.
In general, you can disable from autostart, every non system application...
Most apps I tried simply disable the "on boot completed" trigger, but that's not always enough.
Many apps bypass the boot trigger by autostarting on other events which happen when you boot your phone, like activating data or WiFi, mounting your SD card, etc. Some apps autorun "on time tick," which happens every minute.
Gemini App Manager has more autostart toggles than anything else I tried. ROM Toolbox Lite is a good runner-up.
Note: This is not my app. This app is by Oasis Feng
Update: I think the link to the app thread by developer would be this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
There is a new app in play store called Greenify. This app is only for rooted users. This app is similar to the freeze option we find in Titanium Backup Pro, but does the job in a much better way - it puts the app to hibernation.
Key features include:
1. You can add the apps to list which you want to hibernate
2. After the app is added to list, Greenify does the rest of the job.
3. No need to manually hibernate and de-hinbernate (like we manually freeze and unfreeze in TB Pro)
To use Greenify follow the steps below:
1. Open Greenify and give SU permission
2. Add the app to list in the built in recent app list or if you want to add app manually then choose more and open the desired app from list and tap on Greenify in notification bar.
3. In the main screen of Greenify you will see the apps that are currently running under "pending" category.
4. Now turn off the screen and wait for 2-5 minutes. Open Greenify again and you would see that, all the apps added to list are movee to "hibernated" category. All these apps are as good as frozen/uninstalled.
When the apps are in hibernated, they don't run in foreground nor in background. This will help in saving the battery and also increase the performance of the device.
I could test this by adding WhatsApp to the list in Greenify and later when WhatsApp went to hibernation mode I did not receive any of the messages in it (as good as the app not running). Then once I opened Whatsapp, it was our of hibernation and I received all my pending messages. Voila!
Note 1: you cannot add the system apps to the list. Greenify gives a message stating "Sorry, system apps are impossible to be greenified due to safety reason". Who wants to hibernate system apps anyways.
Note 2: Like the app description says in play store, it's not advised to put IM, Alarm clock apps and other apps that you rely heavily on for it to be running in background.
Note 3: You can send the pending app to hibernation immediately by tapping the app in list and tapping the pause icon.
Suggested list of apps that to be hibernated:
1. Facebook (take that FB!)
2. Google Maps (install as user app)
3. Any other rouge app which you wish to keep but keeps on popping up as background process. You tell me.
Weirdly I could think of only two apps! So share your list here. Thanks.
So this is really a very useful app which I feel would increase the milage of the device in long run. Kudos to the developer!
Play store link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify
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Great APP. Thank you.
I often wondered what it took to be a recognized contributor.
Now I know. You have to spam an irrelevant forum with an advert for an app.
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I often wondered what it took to be a recognized contributor.
Now I know. You have to spam an irrelevant forum with an advert for an app.
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I in no way advertising this app. I found the app to be useful and worth sharing it. And I did not develop this app, nor did anyone pay me to advertise it.
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I often wondered what it took to be a recognized contributor.
Now I know. You have to spam an irrelevant forum with an advert for an app.
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We got a bad ass over here. Perhaps this is the wrong forum but the app is damn useful.
I has a sig
Thanks for sharing with us all. :good:
I tested it, and it works well.
Maybe excepted for Google Maps which keep coming in running apps even if put in the 'hibernated' list.
But that's a great app, I'll give it a try the next couple of days.
i know you said this app works better than freezing/unfreezing via TiBu but how is it better? This apps sounds like its the same thing. Just curious...
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i know you said this app works better than freezing/unfreezing via TiBu but how is it better? This apps sounds like its the same thing. Just curious...
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The OP said that it automatically do so (freeze/unfreeze) which makes it unique. In TB you always have to do this manually whenever you plan to use an app after freezing it.
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If i greenify, no more push notifications right? Would be nice for Facebook, i could get rid of them if i could just use the app without it eating all my battery
EDIT: How about keyboards?
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i know you said this app works better than freezing/unfreezing via TiBu but how is it better? This apps sounds like its the same thing. Just curious...
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Testing this, I'm fed up freezing apps then un freezing them when I need them. Play store doesn't show updates for frozen apps. Could be promising as apps are hibernated and run only when you need them. Best of all worlds of it works.
Pressing more exits the app at the moment
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So far, i hibernated whatsapp, facebook and twitter. I don't care about push notifications, but this works real nice! They are not running (background, cache, anywhere) so it gives me more RAM (specially you, facebook) and i can open em with no problems, no errors or nothing. Great app!
How's your increase in battery life?
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Testing this, I'm fed up freezing apps then un freezing them when I need them. Play store doesn't show updates for frozen apps. Could be promising as apps are hibernated and run only when you need them. Best of all worlds of it works.
Pressing more exits the app at the moment
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Pressing more exit the app so you can choose whichever app you wanna hibernate. You can see in the notification
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Initial impression is that this is very promising, can't wait to test further.
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I'm using the ViperS rom on a HTC Sensation and greenify doesn't ask for root so I can't hibernate maps. I get a error message there.
ViperS uses a special superuser app, how can make it work?
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I'm using the ViperS rom on a HTC Sensation and greenify doesn't ask for root so I can't hibernate maps. I get a error message there.
ViperS uses a special superuser app, how can make it work?
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You can try installing SuperSU app from market.. Then give SuprerSU su permission with special superuser app. From this point on you SuperSU app will be used to grant su permission. Greenify will support SuperSU.
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Loving it! Don't have to defrost the app every time I want to use it, but can still stop it from running when not using it.
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Hi dev. Please, could you add a option to ignore the fact that some apps are system ones? Sony has some apps that are media related, and even Facebook, that comes with software, that ate safe to hibernation.
Cheers.
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Hi dev. Please, could you add a option to ignore the fact that some apps are system ones? Sony has some apps that are media related, and even Facebook, that comes with software, that ate safe to hibernation.
Cheers.
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Dev won't be following this thread AFAIK. You can contact him at [email protected]
About hibernating system apps, since you are already rooted you can convert few apps like Facebook and other Sony apps which are media related to user apps with help of a titanium backup. This will enable you in hibernating them.
Take due care when converting Sony apps to user apps though.
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