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Which version TP2 can I buy?

I'm planning to buy an TP2 from ebay but I couldn't decide which version(s) are compatible with my country's cellular networks. I use Vodafone in Turkey and Vodafone uses GSM 900 and UMTS 2100 bands. I read the forum a lot but I got very confused.
I'll use both UMTS and GSM networks because the UMTS covarage is limited in Turkey so far. I'm looking for Sprint or AT&T versions but I didn't understand if need to unlock these devices or not. In a thread I read that Sprint is unlocked for GSM networks but the same thread didn't mention anything about UMTS band. Please make suggestions to me.
I hope that I could explain my concerns clearly.

tasmania said:
I'm planning to buy an TP2 from ebay but I couldn't decide which version(s) are compatible with my country's cellular networks. I use Vodafone in Turkey and Vodafone uses GSM 900 and UMTS 2100 bands. I read the forum a lot but I got very confused.
I'll use both UMTS and GSM networks because the UMTS covarage is limited in Turkey so far. I'm looking for Sprint or AT&T versions but I didn't understand if need to unlock these devices or not. In a thread I read that Sprint is unlocked for GSM networks but the same thread didn't mention anything about UMTS band. Please make suggestions to me.
I hope that I could explain my concerns clearly.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566043
That should have the information about which phone you need. You can always unlock the phones, so make sure it has the correct GSM/CDMA networks and you should be fine.
*edit*
I should have mentioned this before. Sometimes carriers are really picky about which phones they will activate, make sure that Vodafone will activate the model TP2 that you get.

tasmania said:
I'm planning to buy an TP2 from ebay but I couldn't decide which version(s) are compatible with my country's cellular networks. I use Vodafone in Turkey and Vodafone uses GSM 900 and UMTS 2100 bands. I read the forum a lot but I got very confused.
I'll use both UMTS and GSM networks because the UMTS covarage is limited in Turkey so far. I'm looking for Sprint or AT&T versions but I didn't understand if need to unlock these devices or not. In a thread I read that Sprint is unlocked for GSM networks but the same thread didn't mention anything about UMTS band. Please make suggestions to me.
I hope that I could explain my concerns clearly.
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The Sprint TP2 will work for you in its stock configuration.
It supports GSM 900, GSM 1800 and UMTS 2100 out of the box and it is NOT SIM locked. Basically all you'll have to do it pop in your SIM card and go.
Now, you will still have to register the IMEI with customs (assuming Turkey still has that stupid ass rule) so it doesn't get blocked from the network, but aside from that you're golden.
If you get the ATT version it will also work, however it will be SIM locked out of the box and you will have to unlock it to use it. The same is true of the Verizon TP2.

burtonsnow8 said:
That should have the information about which phone you need. You can always unlock the phones, so make sure it has the correct GSM/CDMA networks and you should be fine.
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I read that thread 3 times But the the explanations about GSM does not contain UMTS band so i need to ask. Thanks for your reply.

gamescan said:
The Sprint TP2 will work for you in its stock configuration.
It supports GSM 900, GSM 1800 and UMTS 2100 out of the box and it is NOT SIM locked. Basically all you'll have to do it pop in your SIM card and go.
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Thanks. This was the exact answer I expected to get.
On ebay i found a Sprint with bad ESN. In the descriptions it says that it can be used in any networks other than Sprint. Can I use a phone like this in Turkey with confidence?

tasmania said:
Thanks. This was the exact answer I expected to get.
On ebay i found a Sprint with bad ESN. In the descriptions it says that it can be used in any networks other than Sprint. Can I use a phone like this in Turkey with confidence?
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Yes. A Sprint Touch Pro 2 will work just fine with a Vodaphone SIM so long as your local network is one of the three frequencies that I listed.
You only need to replace the Radio ROM if you want to use it on US GSM frequencies.

gamescan said:
Yes. A Sprint Touch Pro 2 will work just fine with a Vodaphone SIM so long as your local network is one of the three frequencies that I listed.
You only need to replace the Radio ROM if you want to use it on US GSM frequencies.
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Thanks gamescan. Does a bad ESN phone be a problem for me?

tasmania said:
Thanks gamescan. Does a bad ESN phone be a problem for me?
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Bad ESN means that the phone has been banned from its home network.
This usually happens because:
1) There is an outstanding bill that was not paid
2) The phone was reported lost and claimed on insurance
3) The phone was stolen
If you are using it on another CDMA network or on a GSM network, the bad ESN will not impact you (aside from possibly in a karmic way).
If it does have a bad ESN you should get it pretty cheap.

gamescan said:
Bad ESN means that the phone has been banned from its home network.
This usually happens because:
1) There is an outstanding bill that was not paid
2) The phone was reported lost and claimed on insurance
3) The phone was stolen
If you are using it on another CDMA network or on a GSM network, the bad ESN will not impact you (aside from possibly in a karmic way).
If it does have a bad ESN you should get it pretty cheap.
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Thanks a lot for the valuable information you give gamescan.

[Q] (Q) Intresting thing does anyone know that?

This question is from ppl where they have no carrier boundation but all ppl can give their opinion Can i buy a android smartphone from a carrier based company like at&t or t-mobile and bring it to my own country where is no carrier boundation and get the phone rooted/unlocked will it be able to run normally like other phones/unlocked phones? I'm asking this coz i live in a non-carrier bound country,cost of unlocked/sim free phone is 550$ and carrier bound is 150$. Now even the dumbest would had understanded why im asking it Plz answer this coz i dont know it. Thanx in adv.

Yes if you can get it unlocked it will work just like an unbranded phone. You have to be careful with the frequency bands though. T-mobile uses the 1700 band which isn't prevelant overseas. AT&T phones work well all over the world, as they use the same bands as most other GSM networks. Verizon and Sprint use CDMA instead of GSM, so they would be useless for you.

lowandbehold said:
Yes if you can get it unlocked it will work just like an unbranded phone. You have to be careful with the frequency bands though. T-mobile uses the 1700 band which isn't prevelant overseas. AT&T phones work well all over the world, as they use the same bands as most other GSM networks. Verizon and Sprint use CDMA instead of GSM, so they would be useless for you.
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Thanks for ur response btw in my country 900/1800 band is used. Can u tell me specifically other than cdma network which carrier uses this type of bandwidth?

[Q] Unlocked One S from Canada (bands)

Hey guys just wondering if anybody has unlocked a One S (bought from a Canadian Carrier) and tested it out on Wind or Mobilicity.
I emailed HTC asking them about the bands supported by the phones and this is the reply I got.
Fido: HSPA 42 Mbps
Bell: HSPA 42 Mbps 2100/1900/AWS GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Sasktel: HSPA 42 Mbps
Telus: HSPA 42 Mbps
Virgin: HSPA 42 Mbps
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Asked them if the other phones had the same bands
I do apologise for the misunderstanding, but the bands would be the same for the One S on each network.
That being said, I will suggest to contact Wind Mobile to verify if a unlocked phone will work to its fullest potential or not. The reason I mention this, is that some providers put a limit on the connection, on an unlocked phone.
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So I was just wondering if anybody has tested this out and knows if it works on Wind or Mobilicity by just unlocking it or if the AWS bands are "locked" just like the Galaxy Note.

Wrong. Canadian One S are not AWS.
If we would have AWS onboard we would have the T-Mobile US phone

NienorGT said:
Wrong. Canadian One S are not AWS.
If we would have AWS onboard we would have the T-Mobile US phone
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:s ugh I was hoping that we did. How sure are you that the AWS bands aren't "hidden" like on the galaxy note though?

Found the unlocked pentaband phones in Canada
http://canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
http://sntradersonline.com/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/

motionUS said:
Found the unlocked pentaband phones in Canada
http://canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
http://sntradersonline.com/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
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Are you sure Penta Band ONE S exist in Canada/USA ? read post #3
As for the official HTC site says. HSPA/WCDMA:Europe/Asia: 850/900/2100 MHz
BUT Your links would make sense according to the note Network bands in regions other than Europe and Asia Pacific may be different, depending on the mobile operator and your location.

I too, am trying to find out too what bands does the Canadian version support
Fido , Bell, Virgin all listed HSPA 850 1900 2100 but Telus only listed 850 1900 , so that leads me to believe 1700 is not supported.
However at the same time, the international version isn't penta band, nor the T mobile version... Where are theretailers getting their penta band One S in black?
Maybe the device is penta band from the fatory but carriered modified ?
My Telus One S arrives next week and I will unlock it but ufortunately Wind doesn't
operate in SK so I won't be able to test it.
I tried to look at the demo phone and I couldnt find the menu option to select networks.

huy397 said:
I too, am trying to find out too what bands does the Canadian version support
Fido , Bell, Virgin all listed HSPA 850 1900 2100 but Telus only listed 850 1900 , so that leads me to believe 1700 is not supported.
However at the same time, the international version isn't penta band, nor the T mobile version... Where are theretailers getting their penta band One S in black?
Maybe the device is penta band from the fatory but carriered modified ?
My Telus One S arrives next week and I will unlock it but ufortunately Wind doesn't
operate in SK so I won't be able to test it.
I tried to look at the demo phone and I couldnt find the menu option to select networks.
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The black unlocked international One S is for sure not pentaband as far as I know and supports less bands than the blue version. I am assuming the blue versions are all the same and just branded differently. My suspicion is Fido/Bell/Virgin/Telus aren't listing the 1700 band so that people do not buy and unlock them to use with Wind/Mobilicity.
That's too bad there has to be someone out there that has attempted to try it on Wind/Mobilicity. It's such a pain how every site/company is showing different specs.

The European version will not work with AWS. Currently the only *confirmed" AWS version is the T-Mobile US version. However if S-Off is ever achieved then flashing a T-Mobile US radio could "unlock" the bands in the European version and other versions a la the Snapdragon Galaxy Note.
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vintr said:
The black unlocked international One S is for sure not pentaband as far as I know and supports less bands than the blue version. I am assuming the blue versions are all the same and just branded differently. My suspicion is Fido/Bell/Virgin/Telus aren't listing the 1700 band so that people do not buy and unlock them to use with Wind/Mobilicity.
That's too bad there has to be someone out there that has attempted to try it on Wind/Mobilicity. It's such a pain how every site/company is showing different specs.
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If you are from Toronto. Pacific Mall can sell them for ~$550 - $600 unlocked. but i dont know rather if its dual,tri or quad band.
got my sexy Sensation z710a from there

joshnichols189 said:
The European version will not work with AWS. Currently the only *confirmed" AWS version is the T-Mobile US version. However if S-Off is ever achieved then flashing a T-Mobile US radio could "unlock" the bands in the European version and other versions a la the Snapdragon Galaxy Note.
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I am aware the the European one does not have AWS. However I am not asking about the black European model. In Canada we have the blue model just like the one with T-Mobile in the States which leads me to believe that the Canadian version=the American version; I just need some confirmation.

vintr said:
I am aware the the European one does not have AWS. However I am not asking about the black European model. In Canada we have the blue model just like the one with T-Mobile in the States which leads me to believe that the Canadian version=the American version; I just need some confirmation.
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You know in Europe they have the blue one that doesn't have AWS bands right? It isn't as cut and dry as black is no AWS and blue is AWS.
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joshnichols189 said:
You know in Europe they have the blue one that doesn't have AWS bands right? It isn't as cut and dry as black is no AWS and blue is AWS.
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Sorry didn't know that, went to the HTC UK site and found all the major carriers that had the One S and they were all black. Why does it have to be so difficult for companies to get their specs straight...

Got some useful info courtesy of 'HC - NO "i"' on HowardForums
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...us-supports-2100-band?p=14822292#post14822292
Does anybody mind looking under the cover for the model / FCC ID / Industry Canada certification numbers and reporting back with the carrier they got the phone from and the FCC ID. They should be printed on the label near the headphones / headset jack.
These are the variants available in Canada.
PJ40100: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)
PJ40200: UMTS Band V (850)
PJ40210: UMTS Band II (1900)/V (850)

I went to Telus and Bell today ( the Fido and Sasktel stores didn't have working demo models ), I checked the FCC tags and both of them showed "PJ40110". on the top line.
I didn't look at the FCC ID or IC.

huy397 said:
I went to Telus and Bell today ( the Fido and Sasktel stores didn't have working demo models ), I checked the FCC tags and both of them showed "PJ40110". on the top line.
I didn't look at the FCC ID or IC.
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So it should support AWS then. Hopefully someone can confirm for me that the Canadian version will work on Wind/Mobilicity with a simple unlock without going through the same trouble as the galaxy note

vintr said:
PJ40110: UMTS Band II (1900)/IV (AWS)/V (850)
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That's very interesting...
vintr said:
So it should support AWS then. Hopefully someone can confirm for me that the Canadian version will work on Wind/Mobilicity with a simple unlock without going through the same trouble as the galaxy note
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Well, if nobody confirm it before that I cut my Vidéotron SIM (Québec's AWS carrier) to a MicroSIM and unlock my phone, I'll tell ya.
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With the hack @ascot17 found, I was able to unlock my phone and it works on AWS! (well, I can't test data as this account don't have data, but without AWS it shouldn't write Vidéotron but "Partner" since they don't have a GSM network).
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NienorGT said:
With the hack @ascot17 found, I was able to unlock my phone and it works on AWS! (well, I can't test data as this account don't have data, but without AWS it shouldn't write Vidéotron but "Partner" since they don't have a GSM network).
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Awesome! Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it. Now I can safely go out and buy this with no worries

Please be aware that you will buy an unsupported phone, unlock the bootloader to root the phone, most probably voiding your warranty in the process (there's talk that the root-only (and not requiring unlocked bootloader) method for the NA One X works on the One S) then Sim-unlock the phone (by a paid code or the new hack), find the APNs for your carrier...
... And hope that all works...
I don't want to scare you but make sure you fully understand all risks. Specially if you buy the phone outright and don't have an account on that carrier...
Despite the fact that I can't test data (as it should be locked in my account) here is a shot telling that I'm on 3G UTMS (which can't be done with this SIM on a non-AWS phone like my iPhone).

I got one from Virginmobile had it unlocked it and am now using it on Mobilicity.
The Rep at the store assured me it wont work but i tried it and it did.
Reason for buying from there was because it was on sale.

[Q] Is my Desire S going to work in Mexico?

I bought a Desire S on China...and now I am going to Mexico for a couple months. If a use a Mexican SIM Card will it work with the available mobile operators in Mexico?
**In case it does not, what do I need to do?
Thanks XDA forum guys!

lost.in.china said:
I bought a Desire S on China...and now I am going to Mexico for a couple months. If a use a Mexican SIM Card will it work with the available mobile operators in Mexico?
**In case it does not, what do I need to do?
Thanks XDA forum guys!
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As long as it is not SIM Locked, I don't see why it won't work on any GSM network...
In Mexico, the predominant cellular service company is called Telcel, currently owned by Carlos Slim. Telcel uses the GSM networks on the 850 and 1900 bands – which is the same frequencies that GSM carriers use in the United States and Canada. ref : http://www.cellularabroad.com/mexicocellService.php
And the Desire S is compatible with both these bands. ref : http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_s-3776.php
Happy journey, mate. Enchilada time!!

enigmaamit said:
As long as it is not SIM Locked, I don't see why it won't work on any GSM network...
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How can I know is the SIM is locked?
**And by the way, I am anxious for some enchiladas! Yummy!

lost.in.china said:
How can I know is the SIM is locked?
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If your phone is branded (some cell operator) it will show some kind of logo either on the phone physically or splash screen etc.
Simple test - Take out your current SIM card from your phone and put in another SIM of a different carrier (different from the one you're using now). If it works, and you're able to make/receive calls, you are SIM unlocked. This is the simplest confirmatory test I'm aware of!
If you bought the phone in China, I highly doubt ANYTHING will be locked!!

If you mean "send and receive calls" - yes, it will work. In the worst case it'll require network unlock, which is something like $15, give or take a few.
If you mean "3G data will work" - no, it won't. The UMTS frequencies are incompatible with Desire S.

[Q] is it possible?

is it possible to unlock a samsung google nexus s i9023 for free? it currently locked to koodo

MoneyKing said:
is it possible to unlock a samsung google nexus s i9023 for free? it currently locked to koodo
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Nexus S aren't locked to any carrier. They are however frequency restricted, depending on the model (tri-band, unlike Galaxy Nexus which is pentaband)
What does it mean? You can put any SIM in it, but you won't get 3G unless you have the right model for your network.
Here's the specs:
i9020a/t
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_google_nexus_s_i9020a-3920.php
i9023
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_google_nexus_s_i9023-3910.php

polobunny said:
Nexus S aren't locked to any carrier. They are however frequency restricted, depending on the model (tri-band, unlike Galaxy Nexus which is pentaband)
What does it mean? You can put any SIM in it, but you won't get 3G unless you have the right model for your network.
Here's the specs:
i9020a/t
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so how can i tell if it will work with a specific company? like bell or rogers, etc

MoneyKing said:
so how can i tell if it will work with a specific company? like bell or rogers, etc
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_country_code#C
Then compare to i9023 compatible frequency I linked you to earlier.

polobunny said:
Then compare to i9023 compatible frequency I linked you to earlier.
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so 2g will work with any company or only companies with compatible frequencies of GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
if a company's frequency is 1700 and its in the 3G section, then it will work perfectly, correct?

MoneyKing said:
so 2g will work with any company or only companies with compatible frequencies of GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
if a company's frequency is 1700 and its in the 3G section, then it will work perfectly, correct?
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For example Koodo only offers 3G as their GSM service, no 2G.
So if no frequency the company uses is compatible with your phone (none of them matches) then you will not get any service.

polobunny said:
For example Koodo only offers 3G as their GSM service, no 2G.
So if no frequency the company uses is compatible with your phone (none of them matches) then you will not get any service.
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kk, so i take this phone to another country, will it work there? and the company uses similar frequencies?

My ns runs on 2100 I'm on network 3
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MoneyKing said:
kk, so i take this phone to another country, will it work there? and the company uses similar frequencies?
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If the company uses similar frequencies to those supported by your phone, then you can use one of their SIM card and you will have service.

polobunny said:
If the company uses similar frequencies to those supported by your phone, then you can use one of their SIM card and you will have service.
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kk, so i put in a new sim card, which is from mobilicity, and it doesn't work. any suggestions?

can anybody help please. i would really appreciate it!

MoneyKing said:
can anybody help please. i would really appreciate it!
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Make sure you are actually holding an i9023. Check the model printed on IMEI label on back cover under the battery.
If gsmarena spec is correct, i9023 should work with Wind/Mobilicity but not Koodo 3G, same for i9020t.
i9020a works with Koodo 3G but not Wind/Mobilicity.
Suspect you have the i9020a model. http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_google_nexus_s_i9020a-3920.php

_android_ said:
Make sure you are actually holding an i9023. Check the model printed on IMEI label on back cover under the battery.
If gsmarena spec is correct, i9023 should work with Wind/Mobilicity but not Koodo 3G, same for i9020t.
i9020a works with Koodo 3G but not Wind/Mobilicity.
Suspect you have the i9020a model. http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_google_nexus_s_i9020a-3920.php
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oh snap, you are indeed correct! the model is i9020a
is there a way to unlock it to make it work with some other frequencies?
will this site work "http://www.unlockunit.com/unlock-samsung/samsung-google-nexus-s-i9020a"

MoneyKing said:
oh snap, you are indeed correct! the model is i9020a
is there a way to unlock it to make it work with some other frequencies?
will this site work "http://www.unlockunit.com/unlock-samsung/samsung-google-nexus-s-i9020a"
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Most unlock website perform SIM(Carrier) unlock. They won't unlock additional frequency support.
Nexus phones came factory SIM unlocked. Should work in India. The quoted site will take your $16.90 and do nothing

_android_ said:
Most unlock website perform SIM(Carrier) unlock. They won't unlock additional frequency support.
Nexus phones came factory SIM unlocked. Should work in India. The quoted site will take your $16.90 and do nothing
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say word.. thanks for the info bro. but i don't see any 1900 frequency. i only see 2100 which is supported by i9020a, will that work?

MoneyKing said:
say word.. thanks for the info bro. but i don't see any 1900 frequency. i only see 2100 which is supported by i9020a, will that work?
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For India, you only need phone that support 2100. So all variants of Nexus S will work.
Also see my reply in your other threads.