I bought two virtually unused Samsung Galaxy Tab 2s (10.1") on Craig's List at a very good price: one wifi-only model (GT-P5113) and one AT&T 4G model (SGH-I497). One is for me and the other is for my brother, who'll be visiting me from the Netherlands next week. I haven't decided yet which one will be mine.
I'm inclined to give the wifi-only model to my brother and keep the AT&T model myself. Even though I'm not planning to use the 4G capability at this point, it's a nice option to have. Plus, I'm not sure if my brother would be able to use that at all back in the Netherlands.
The main factor for me to choose one over the other is simple performance: which one is faster? The tablets have mostly identical hardware, but there's one big difference: they use different CPUs. If I'm not mistaken, the wifi-only model (GT-P5113) has a 1 GHz, dual-core Texas Instruments ARM Cortex-A9 CPU, whereas the AT&T model (SGH-I497) uses a 1.5 GHz, dual-core Qualcomm "Krait" Snapdragon S4 (MSM8960) CPU. Is there a noticeable difference in performance between these two tablets in everyday use? I'm not a gamer at all and will be using the tablet mostly for everyday browsing, e-mail, and watching videos, both streaming and on the device itself. It's worth noting that I'll probably root the tablet, but I have no plans to install a custom ROM. (It seems there's much more dev activity for the P5113 than the I497.) Is there a Cyanogenmod 10.x version that works with the I497?
One potential downside of the AT&T model is that it's running Android 4.1.2, whereas the wifi-only model is now on 4.2.2. Would you consider that a problem? Of course AT&T could eventually release an update to 4.2.2, but who know when that'll be...
My question to all of you: which one would you keep for yourself: the wifi-only model (GT-P5113) or the AT&T 4G model (SGH-I497)? And why?
Thanks!
--Ron
For those who are interested, I did some direct benchmarking on the wifi (GT-P5113) and AT&T (SGH-I497) versions. I ran AnTuTu and Quadrant Standard on the tablets in their factory-reset state (after installing the benchmark apps from Google Play, of course). These are the results:
Wifi (GT-P5113):
Android 4.2.2
CPU: TI OMAP 4460
Graphics: PowerVR SGX 540
AnTuTu: 8,883
Quadrant: 3,126 (CPU: 4,633; Mem: 2,765; I/O: 6,399; 2D: 251; 3D: 1,580)
AT&T (SGH-I497):
Android 4.1.2
CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8260A
Graphics: Adreno 225
AnTuTu: 16,102
Quadrant: 5,616 (CPU: 8,877; Mem: 9,583; I/O: 6,425; 2D: 1,014; 3D: 2,180
The AT&T version is the clear winner. That's the one I'll keep, and my brother will get the wifi-only version. It's slower, but at $120 not a bad deal at all.
--Ron
dutch_in_seattle said:
For those who are interested, I did some direct benchmarking on the wifi (GT-P5113) and AT&T (SGH-I407) versions. I ran AnTuTu and Quadrant Standard on the tablets in their factory-reset state (after installing the benchmark apps from Google Play, of course). These are the results:
Wifi (GT-P5113):
Android 4.2.2
CPU: TI OMAP 4460
Graphics: PowerVR SGX 540
AnTuTu: 8,883
Quadrant: 3,126 (CPU: 4,633; Mem: 2,765; I/O: 6,399; 2D: 251; 3D: 1,580)
AT&T (SGH-I497):
Android 4.1.2
CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8260A
Graphics: Adreno 225
AnTuTu: 16,102
Quadrant: 5,616 (CPU: 8,877; Mem: 9,583; I/O: 6,425; 2D: 1,014; 3D: 2,180
The AT&T version is the clear winner. That's the one I'll keep, and my brother will get the wifi-only version. It's slower, but at $120 not a bad deal at all.
--Ron
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The specs on the AT&T one are a bit better than the Wi-Fi one, keep the AT&T one. What carrier does your brother use in the Netherlands anyway? KPN ? T-Mobile? Dutch in Seattle? I'm Dutch in Minnesota
SebasC said:
The specs on the AT&T one are a bit better than the Wi-Fi one, keep the AT&T one. What carrier does your brother use in the Netherlands anyway? KPN ? T-Mobile? Dutch in Seattle? I'm Dutch in Minnesota
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He could use the tmobile service on the att model. Thats what I did. I unlocked the sim and now I use tmobile unlimeted for 30$ a month, including lte.
Tab 2 10.1 4g 4.2.2 update?
can anyone help me figure out why the AT&T 4G SGH 1497 (Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10 .1 inch) did not get the Android 4.2.2 update? after I updated the last Update wifi won't work when bluetooth is connected and I cannot find a fix for this other than updating to 4.2.2...
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can anyone help me figure out why the AT&T 4G SGH 1497 (Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10 .1 inch) did not get the Android 4.2.2 update? after I updated the last Update wifi won't work when bluetooth is connected and I cannot find a fix for this other than updating to 4.2.2...
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That is completely up to AT&T. They decide if and when their devices will be updated to a newer Android version.
By the way, I don't believe I'm seeing the issue you're experiencing. I'll check.
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That is completely up to AT&T. They decide if and when their devices will be updated to a newer Android version.
By the way, I don't believe I'm seeing the issue you're experiencing. I'll check.
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I have a bluetooth keyboard that is also a metal cover/case and before the last update wifi and bluetooth was good together. now when I connect the Bluetooth keyboard wifi will stay on for a little bit then it will die and look like it searching for a wifi signal if I try to reconnect wifi it just doesn't connect to any wifi anywhere?
Total newbie here. I've been watching several samsung auctions & i had this same question! Glad I stumbled on this thread when I googled it. Can I ask how you are enjoying your i497 model? I too only need it for emails, browsing web, netflix.
Also, what's a good cheap price for these? Is $170 range good for a used one via auction?
Thanks for any help..
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He could use the tmobile service on the att model. Thats what I did. I unlocked the sim and now I use tmobile unlimeted for 30$ a month, including lte.
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May you point me in the right direction as to where you got your unlock code? I just acquired the I497, but would like to use my T-Mobile Sim. Glad to hear that the T-Mobile LTE works on the ATT Model. Also did you have to downgrade the kernel or firmware to make use of the code? Mine is currently on 4.1.2, thought I read somewhere that it is unlockable with that version.
I have i497 and like it but there are not any devs building Roms for it
unlock 1497 ATT
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May you point me in the right direction as to where you got your unlock code? I just acquired the I497, but would like to use my T-Mobile Sim. Glad to hear that the T-Mobile LTE works on the ATT Model. Also did you have to downgrade the kernel or firmware to make use of the code? Mine is currently on 4.1.2, thought I read somewhere that it is unlockable with that version.
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I was able to unlock mine to Tmobile using RegionLock Away off play store. Cost around 3.00 but well worth it and easy
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I was able to unlock mine to Tmobile using RegionLock Away off play store. Cost around 3.00 but well worth it and easy
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Thanks again for this info, it worked great. Have you tried loading the official T-Mobile Rom with your SGH-I497?
Unfortunately I can't seem to find much support for this tablet. Even when I installed recovery, it doesn't seem to see my external sd card. Might be because it's 64GB formated (FAT32), will try a 32GB and see if I can backup to it.
I am currently searching for a ROM which is quicker than AT&T's current Jellybean. Will try to remove some bloatware to see if it helps.
Does the GT-P5133 (I believe this is the international variant) work with this tablet with working data access?
Anyway, I appreciate the help.
WIFI + Bluetooth keyboard
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I have a bluetooth keyboard that is also a metal cover/case and before the last update wifi and bluetooth was good together. now when I connect the Bluetooth keyboard wifi will stay on for a little bit then it will die and look like it searching for a wifi signal if I try to reconnect wifi it just doesn't connect to any wifi anywhere?
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Ihave pretty much the same keyboard, I also had another sold by ATT and had the same issue. Did you find a solution?
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I will travel to New York in ten days for a week and would like to buy something awesome which works also in Europe (Germany).
I currently own the Motorola Atrix so it should be better than that which means qHD, 1GB RAM >= 4inch display, >=1Ghz DualCore.
AT&T and T-Mobile use the same network frequencies as in Germany (as far as I know) so all of their phones should work (if they aren't SIM-locked).
Thanks for help.
PS: At first I decided to buy the HTC Evo 3D but as far as I know it is only available on the Sprint network which doesn't help me in Germany
Hi everyone. As the heading states, I am planning to buy the GTab 7 Plus in India for my dad. Now, here is my concern:
In India, the same tab is marketed as the Samsung Galaxy Tab 620. It still has the 1.2 GHz Exynos Processor, 1024X600 resolution screen & includes Voice calling features. I have searched all over the net & couldn't find if there are any differences compared to the GTab 7 Plus which is available internationally. So, in this case, is it only the change in name for marketing purposes or is there some other variation also? Basically, I want to understand if I can use all the ROMs available here on XDA with the tab available in India?
If anyone has any info on this I would really appreciate it. Thanks in Advance!
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Hi everyone. As the heading states, I am planning to buy the GTab 7 Plus in India for my dad. Now, here is my concern:
In India, the same tab is marketed as the Samsung Galaxy Tab 620. It still has the 1.2 GHz Exynos Processor, 1024X600 resolution screen & includes Voice calling features. I have searched all over the net & couldn't find if there are any differences compared to the GTab 7 Plus which is available internationally. So, in this case, is it only the change in name for marketing purposes or is there some other variation also? Basically, I want to understand if I can use all the ROMs available here on XDA with the tab available in India?
If anyone has any info on this I would really appreciate it. Thanks in Advance!
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But I thought the tab was for your dad? Kidding...
Take a look in the development subforum just to be sure but as far as I know there are no custom ROMs for the Plus yet.
Hi im from Philippines. My advice is do not buy Galaxy Tab 7 plus... why? Because Gtab 7 plus is not super amoled. You just wait for Gtab 7.7 that is a amoled LCD...
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I already bought GTab 7 plus for my mom. I pissed off when i read about the specs and it is not amoled LCD.
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Yes, I am fully aware that it is not super amoled. The point is that my dad is getting a limited time offer from his workplace for a 60% discount on any phone purchase. But since he already has a phone which he is content with, he wanted a tablet to use as an ereader. This is the only well speced tab which has phone calling capabilites & is available for purchase here at the moment.
Anyways, I have gone ahead with the purchase & dad is happy with the device. Thanks for all your inputs.
Guys, I don't know about price for Tab 7.7 in your country, but in Russia I got my Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus for $468 and price for 7.7 starting at $780. So I don't want pay twice more for super amoled screen and 0.2ghz difference
I am also looking to buy a galaxy tab 7 plus and am undecided which version to buy. I live in the united states and I could just get the p6210 wifi only version, but I am not sure if I will need 3g. I don't want to buy the wifi only then find myself often wanting to use the wireless features when I have no wifi. From my understanding i can use the GPS no matter which version I have so that's at least a plus no matter which way I go.
If I end up buying a 3g version which would people recommend the international unlocked one, the t-mobile un-subsidised, or the t-mobile contracted one.
For people who live in the US and actually got the international one, which cell phone company are you using with it and are you able to get a cellphone plan and use it as a huge cellphone.
People with the t-mobile version have you been able to unlock the subsidised version and/or use the unlocked version as a cellphone? Either with a t-mobile prepaid plan or another company that uses the same frequency.
From what I have read it seems like the international one would have to be used with at&t and t-mobile version is only usable with t-mobile in the US atleast.
In Thailand has 2 version
P6200 (for 3G 900MHz)
P6200L (for 3G 850MHz)
colutr said:
I am also looking to buy a galaxy tab 7 plus and am undecided which version to buy. I live in the united states and I could just get the p6210 wifi only version, but I am not sure if I will need 3g. I don't want to buy the wifi only then find myself often wanting to use the wireless features when I have no wifi. From my understanding i can use the GPS no matter which version I have so that's at least a plus no matter which way I go.
If I end up buying a 3g version which would people recommend the international unlocked one, the t-mobile un-subsidised, or the t-mobile contracted one.
For people who live in the US and actually got the international one, which cell phone company are you using with it and are you able to get a cellphone plan and use it as a huge cellphone.
People with the t-mobile version have you been able to unlock the subsidised version and/or use the unlocked version as a cellphone? Either with a t-mobile prepaid plan or another company that uses the same frequency.
From what I have read it seems like the international one would have to be used with at&t and t-mobile version is only usable with t-mobile in the US atleast.
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I have the 6210, I'm fine with wifi only because 1) I'm not paying for yet another data plan, and 2) tethering your phone to the tab works great, assuming you have a smartphone.
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You should buy GT-7 plus, Super amoled is not very importand for your Dad.
haphuong108 said:
You should buy GT-7 plus, Super amoled is not very importand for your Dad.
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I second that. In addition, the extra screen resolution and slight bump in processor speed are not worth the extra money IMO. Good Luck with your purchase!
I think you should go on and get it. Sure, it lacks Super amoled screen, but I find that people that randomly see my tablet have no problem with my screen.
In fact they say the screen is pretty awesome. In fact, the only real people who seem to notice the screen are fellow tech people.
I have gotten fascinated by several Chinese phones lately, and plan to own one with Straighttalk or simpletalk soon.
I want to use this thread discussing the top Chinese phones by price/budget. I have added some names below - please suggest more. I also intend to put the supported bands, so people looking to use it on specific carriers will have best luck with these phones.
(Copied from a different thread For AT&T, the band is 850/1900 MHz for both GSM and WCDMA 3G. For T-Mobile 850/1900 MHz GSM and 1700 MHz for WCDMA 3G. If your phone is WCDMA 900/2100, 3G will not work for both AT&T and T-mobile. You must have at least one band that matches with your network. For best 3G coverage, both bands must be supported by the phone.
For under $200
Jiayu G3 - not yet release - MTK6577 chipset, 1GB RAM, Android 4.1
Star ule v12 - MTK6577 chipset, 512MB RAM, Android 4.0.3
HDC Star One - MTK 6577 chipset, 512MB RAM, Android 4.0.3
For over $200
Meizu M2
Good places to buy
AliExpress.com
DHGate.com
365Gate.com
FastCardTech.com
walletless said:
I have gotten fascinated by several Chinese phones lately, and plan to own one with Straighttalk or simpletalk soon.
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Good places to buy
AliExpress.com
DHGate.com
365Gate.com
FastCardTech.com
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Hi, did you ever get any of the chinese phones? If so, wher did you buy your phone?
I'm fairly settled on the upcoming 1GB RAM version of G2, but I'm having trouble deciding where to actually make the purchase. I've been in talks with etotalk, and while they don't seem to be out to scam people, it has become apparent that specs on pre-release devices are totally unreliable and should be triple-checked with their salespeople prior to purchase.
On XDA, it's apparent that FCT has some very bad rep and only people with single-digit post-count come to their defense. (Yeah.. totally trustworthy. )
So, have you any experience to share?
I wouldn't trust my money with those phones it's much better to save up and buy an official, 'real' phone for the security and support
jman2131 said:
I wouldn't trust my money with those phones it's much better to save up and buy an official, 'real' phone for the security and support
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Jman, you're entitled to your opinion. I value your input. I'm not looking at the chinese phones because of the money, and would in fact gladly pay up to twice their price if they were on purchase here, with EU-mandated consumer protection and warranties.
The reason I'm looking at them is because I have looked at the offerings from the brands established-in-the-western-world and they're all pathetic. Show me a dual-core dual-SIM phone with screen no larger than 4.0", and a battery with a capacity at least 1.7 Ah.
Goophone Y5, soon launching Goophone I5 are great. Also S3 clones are quite trustworthy.
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Goophone Y5, soon launching Goophone I5 are great. Also S3 clones are quite trustworthy.
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Hi Joh, thanks for the suggestions, but I'm asking about which e-shop to choose. Have you made a purchase at any?
I'm looking to buy one to use on T-Mobile prepaid network, since they seem to offer the most data (5gb for $30), which models would fully work on T-Mobile? I know at&t is lte, but T-Mobile is starting an lte thing, so that would be cool. Which can I get without unlocking, if any? And if I have to unlock, is that something I can do myself? I have a decent amount of experience rooting, but this is different. Thank you.
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deadlocked007 said:
Buy a nexus 4 and then you don't have to choose
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I'm sure a lot of people (including myself) would buy a Nexus 4 if the Play Store wasn't sold out all the time
@OP, I personally have never used LTE, but I can't imagine that it's significantly faster in real-world usage than HSPA+. IMO, you should go for an international SGS3 (assuming they work on T-MO US) and live without that ridiculous carrier branding you Americans are used to .
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I'm looking to buy one to use on T-Mobile prepaid network, since they seem to offer the most data (5gb for $30), which models would fully work on T-Mobile? I know at&t is lte, but T-Mobile is starting an lte thing, so that would be cool. Which can I get without unlocking, if any? And if I have to unlock, is that something I can do myself? I have a decent amount of experience rooting, but this is different. Thank you.
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You would need one specifically for T-Mobile's LTE network. If you want to buy a T-Mobile LTE-capable phone NOW, you should get the Note 2, which has an LTE chip/antenna inside that is disabled for now. Just like 3G frequencies differ across carriers, so do LTE frequencies. No existing LTE devices on other carriers will work on T-Mobile's LTE. I believe they're looking to replace their 1700 MHz HSPA+ with LTE but I could be wrong.
Product F(RED) said:
I believe they're looking to replace their 1700 MHz HSPA+ with LTE but I could be wrong.
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I don't think so. That's crazy.
The nexus 4, gs3 and gnote II on tmobile all have deactivated band 4 lte chips so when tmobile gets it those phones will have access to it. I suggest you get the tmobile gs3 because the s4 is faster than the exynos 4 and the extra gig of ram makes a difference.
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The nexus 4, gs3 and gnote II on tmobile all have deactivated band 4 lte chips so when tmobile gets it those phones will have access to it. I suggest you get the tmobile gs3 because the s4 is faster than the exynos 4 and the extra gig of ram makes a difference.
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You're wrong on all accounts:
1. The Nexus 4 has slight LTE capabilities on one or two bands, which are used by AT&T, and they're weak because there's no power amp for the antenna. It happens to be left over from the Optimus G because they share the same motherboard, but it was cheaper to leave it on then to make a totally separate assembly line. There is no T-Mobile LTE compatibility in the Nexus 4.
2. The Galaxy S3 on T-Mobile doesn't have LTE. T-Mobile themselves said that they're releasing a new version of the Galaxy S3 with LTE for their network. The Note 2 HOWEVER, has been proven to have an LTE chip hidden inside.
3. The Snapdragon S4 is not faster than the Exynos 4. I have the i9300, I can tell you this from experience. You can also look up benchmarks online. The GPU in the Snapdragon S4 is junk for gaming, and the processor itself is not faster overall than the S4. It's not all about "Oh the Gigahertz are more on the S4." That's why so many people were disappointed the US version had an inferior processor. Also, the 2GB of RAM doesn't do anything for performance. It's just future-proofing.
Do your research.
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3. The Snapdragon S4 is not faster than the Exynos 4. I have the i9300, I can tell you this from experience. You can also look up benchmarks online. The GPU in the Snapdragon S4 is junk for gaming, and the processor itself is not faster overall than the S4. It's not all about "Oh the Gigahertz are more on the S4." That's why so many people were disappointed the US version had an inferior processor. Also, the 2GB of RAM doesn't do anything for performance. It's just future-proofing.
Do your research.
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Just because the s4 is slower on games ( benchmarks are pointless) doesn't mean its worse. Some will not use the exyons at all anymore so there are benifits to using the snapdragon like more developer support
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zelendel said:
Just because the s4 is slower on games ( benchmarks are pointless) doesn't mean its worse. Some will not use the exyons at all anymore so there are benifits to using the snapdragon like more developer support
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Indeed, I stick away from exynos (and tegra) because of the lack of developer cooperation from them.
And even though the T-Mobile s3 has an inferior processor on paper, (2 vs 4 cores) remember that it is based loosely on the A15 architecture, which is claimed by ARM to be double the performance of the A9 architecture which is in the exynos 4.
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zelendel said:
Just because the s4 is slower on games ( benchmarks are pointless) doesn't mean its worse. Some will not use the exyons at all anymore so there are benifits to using the snapdragon like more developer support
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Indeed, I stick away from exynos (and tegra) because of the lack of developer cooperation from them.
And even though the T-Mobile s3 has an inferior processor on paper, (2 vs 4 cores) remember that it is based loosely on the A15 architecture, which is claimed by ARM to be double the performance of the A9 architecture which is in the exynos 4.
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I never said it was worse. I just said it's not faster. Also to add on yo what you said, the S4 has better battery efficiency. It really depends on what you're looking for.
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Thanks for the info guys. So....my question. Will all of the s3's work on T-Mobile hspa+ without being unlocked or?
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P.s. I find a nexus 4 8gb, brand new on Craigslist, but I have to pay $49 to sign on to solavei wireless (uses T-Mobile) should I just get that, pay the month they make me pay up front, then just switch in a T-Mobile card? Solavei is prepaid, so I'm not worried about black listing.
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Thanks for the info guys. So....my question. Will all of the s3's work on T-Mobile hspa+ without being unlocked or?
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Like said MOST OF THEM WILL NOT. Google first, ask later. The s3's from other networks will not work with the 4g/hspa network because they do not have the antenna for the aws spectrum we use.
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Thanks for the info guys. So....my question. Will all of the s3's work on T-Mobile hspa+ without being unlocked or?
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No. Only the T-Mobile one will work because it's the only one that supports 1700 MHz (AWS). Most international phones don't support 1700 MHz (T-Mobile is 1700 MHz/2100 MHz), but will work on AT&T's bands (850/1900 MHz). However T-Mobile has been very slowly moving over to the same bands as AT&T, so soon you'll be able to use any AT&T compatible phone on T-Mobile.
I'm probably best off buying the nexus 4
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I would go with a samsung processor because games are not the only thing people do on the phone. Soon emulators for various desktop OS will be available on the phone and their will be a phone OS race. So because masses have exynos. Devs will be forced to work things on exynos and plus exynos is good in data rendering and executing. Plus encrypting your work is really fast on exynos even better than intel processors.
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I would go with a samsung processor because games are not the only thing people do on the phone. Soon emulators for various desktop OS will be available on the phone and their will be a phone OS race. So because masses have exynos. Devs will be forced to work things on exynos
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See this is where the problem lies. Devs cant work on something without the proper documentation (Which Samsung refuses to release, even after they stated they would.) This is why alot of the CM team has already stated they will not get another samsung device or any device that has this chip in it.
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See this is where the problem lies. Devs cant work on something without the proper documentation (Which Samsung refuses to release, even after they stated they would.) This is why alot of the CM team has already stated they will not get another samsung device or any device that has this chip in it.
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Yeah, I have the i9300 and that's the only thing that erks me. We have the more powerful phone, we can modify Samsung ROMs, but we pretty much have (actually stable) nightlies for AOSP/AOKP based ROMs. I would have gone with a US carrier S3 if it wasn't for the S4 Dual. I game heavily (GTA 3/VC, Dead Trigger, NFS:MW, MC4, etc), so I rely on the fastest processor out there. The S4 Dual is capable as a CPU, but the Adreno GPU that comes with it is meh. The 2GB of RAM is just futureproofing and doesn't affect performance. If the US S3's had the S4 Pro (Quad), I'd have bought one. The Note 2 seems enticing but I think it's too big for me.
I'm looking to buy a Note Pro 12.2, I'm on T-Mobile in the US and have a second phone line (that just sits on the table) both my lines have Unlimited calls, text and 4G data.
I was just going to pick up a WiFi only Note Pro 12.2 but if I can buy one that will work with my other line I might as well go that way.
I guess I'm asking which version would be best to buy? I don't care about making phone calls or receiving text on it...if that helps.
I saw this thread but I'm still a little confused which would work best for me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/general/note-pro-t-mobile-t2906352
Edit: I would like to order this today.
Anyone? I have a few that can be bought today at a great price.
Well my reason picking p905 4g variant was fast charge which makes you use the tab while charging without worrying about losing charge !
The Snapdragon version is much more powerful than the Exynos (WiFi) edition.
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The Snapdragon version is much more powerful than the Exynos (WiFi) edition.
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I'm trying to find out which version will work best on my carrier, T-Mobile US.
From the thread I linked in the OP I'm thinking an AT&T version (P907A) will work best for me....but I'm not 100% sure so that's what I'm asking here.
Also, can tablets be blacklisted?
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I'm trying to find out which version will work best on my carrier, T-Mobile US.
From the thread I linked in the OP I'm thinking an AT&T version (P907A) will work best for me....but I'm not 100% sure so that's what I'm asking here.
Also, can tablets be blacklisted?
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You should be able to go with the AT&T version but I am not sure if its unlocked out of box. The device will support the 3G radios for tmobile. It would be like using a AT&T phone on Tmobile, you would only have the hardware to access 3G/HSPA+ but not LTE.
Or you could get the international LTE unlocked version which would work with Tmobile. I think also this one would only work with Tmobile 3G/HSPA+.
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ShadowLea said:
The Snapdragon version is much more powerful than the Exynos (WiFi) edition.
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I am not quite sure that is true. There are a few benchmarks showing the Exynos cpu performing better than the Snapdragon version.
Here is one:
http://www.techspot.com/review/759-galaxy-note-3/page4.html
Yes its for the Note 3 but its the same cpus in the wifi/lte verisons of the Note Pro.
If you are not really interested in the phone, isn't the plain wifi version good enough? It is whacky fast for me.... the dream android tablet, frankly. I stuck a 128g microsd card in mine; internally it came with the 32g rather than 64g. If I were gonna spend more, it would be on the 64g ram model rather than the faster cpu.
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DarkManX4lf said:
I am not quite sure that is true. There are a few benchmarks showing the Exynos cpu performing better than the Snapdragon version.
Here is one:
http://www.techspot.com/review/759-galaxy-note-3/page4.html
Yes its for the Note 3 but its the same cpus in the wifi/lte verisons of the Note Pro.
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That's because the Exynos is better at doing more weak processes at once, while the Snapdragon is better at CPU-intensive tasks. Most benchmarks do weak processes like browsers and facebook. Not the heavy tasks.
The Exynos is a 1.9Ghz, the Snapdragon 2.3Ghz. If a game requires 2.1Ghz, the Exynos will lag.
Not to mention the incredibly weak Mali GPU that comes with the Exynos. That thing is not meant for GPU intensive tasks. The Snapdragon comes with an Adreno.
shonkin said:
If you are not really interested in the phone, isn't the plain wifi version good enough? It is whacky fast for me.... the dream android tablet, frankly. I stuck a 128g microsd card in mine; internally it came with the 32g rather than 64g. If I were gonna spend more, it would be on the 64g ram model rather than the faster cpu.
Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 - w/ New Lollipop!
Samsung Galaxy Note II - Oct L Custom Rom
(My wife's geek for her Asus TF700 w/ ZombiPop)
(My wife's geek for her Samsung Galaxy Note 3)
Retired yet still functional: Asus TF101 w/ Timduru Katkiss Pop
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I still want to be able to use data on the go, and since I have an extra sim that has unlimited data that's why I was not leaning towards the WiFi only version. I only said I was not worried about making calls or text because I know none of the US version are capable of that.
DarkManX4lf said:
You should be able to go with the AT&T version but I am not sure if its unlocked out of box. The device will support the 3G radios for tmobile. It would be like using a AT&T phone on Tmobile, you would only have the hardware to access 3G/HSPA+ but not LTE.
Or you could get the international LTE unlocked version which would work with Tmobile. I think also this one would only work with Tmobile 3G/HSPA+.
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I am not quite sure that is true. There are a few benchmarks showing the Exynos cpu performing better than the Snapdragon version.
Here is one:
http://www.techspot.com/review/759-galaxy-note-3/page4.html
Yes its for the Note 3 but its the same cpus in the wifi/lte verisons of the Note Pro.
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Thanks, I went with a Verizon version, based off some of the post in the thread I linked in the OP. That and I was reading and saw that the WiFi version and AT&T version are prone to the blue screen thing.
Plus I got a pretty good deal on the Verizon version I bought, it's mint condition and comes with the Logitech keyboard case, an extra case and a 64GB SD Card. I picked it all up for just over $400. I have also checked and the IMEI is clear...
ShadowLea said:
That's because the Exynos is better at doing more weak processes at once, while the Snapdragon is better at CPU-intensive tasks. Most benchmarks do weak processes like browsers and facebook. Not the heavy tasks.
The Exynos is a 1.9Ghz, the Snapdragon 2.3Ghz. If a game requires 2.1Ghz, the Exynos will lag.
Not to mention the incredibly weak Mali GPU that comes with the Exynos. That thing is not meant for GPU intensive tasks. The Snapdragon comes with an Adreno.
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Might be true on the processes but with gaming, most games run fine on the Exynos version, New games included. The only game that didn't run well was Asphalt 8 and I think it's probably due to not being optimized for the Exynos/Mali combination.
Other new games like Modern Combat etc all run fine.
All benchmarks show a range of differences between the two variants, with the wifi version generally winning in the web browsing category and the LTE one winning at graphics. Most benchmark differences are negligible too. If you search my posts you'll find links to these benchmarks. I'd base your buying decision on reviews and benchmarks rather than opinions. FWIW I have the WiFi variant and have never felt that it needs to be faster; I even stick with Touchwiz. YMMV of course. Peronally I'd get the cheapest version because I don't need any data connection other than WiFi.
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All benchmarks show a range of differences between the two variants, with the wifi version generally winning in the web browsing category and the LTE one winning at graphics. Most benchmark differences are negligible too. If you search my posts you'll find links to these benchmarks. I'd base your buying decision on reviews and benchmarks rather than opinions. FWIW I have the WiFi variant and have never felt that it needs to be faster; I even stick with Touchwiz. YMMV of course. Peronally I'd get the cheapest version because I don't need any data connection other than WiFi.
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That's for the reply, I went with a LTE version because I have a extra line with unlimited 4G data that just sits so now I'll get some use of it.