Hello,
I am thinking to install Cyanogen without the Google Apps. I would like to know if it is possible to have the play store (and so install application from the play store) without the Google Apps?
Kind regards
hacksi said:
Hello,
I am thinking to install Cyanogen without the Google Apps. I would like to know if it is possible to have the play store (and so install application from the play store) without the Google Apps?
Kind regards
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I'm not sure that's possible. you need to be signed in to a Google account to use play store, which requires Gapps.
You can try an alternate market instead.
Cheers
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I came across an interesting workaround today regarding the annoying refusal of Google Play Store to run when Google Play Services is not enabled. Running the following in a terminal will disable a component of Google Play Services that prevents the check when you start the Play Store:
Code:
pm disable com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.recovery.RecoveryService
Note: I have not tested this enough to know if there are any significant drawbacks yet.
I can say that this will finally allow Google Play Services to be greenified (although other components such as Google Backup Transport seems to occasionally prevent greenification). In addition, it seems to stop all those logs from being written to /data/system/dropbox/, which I personally found to be very irritating, and found the alternative solution of setting the folder to read-only to be problematic.
Unfortunately it looks like google play services is necessary to allow you to download apps from the play store. I didn't realize it at first because the checkin service had already done its thing and I was free to use everything until it was time for the next checkin. I'll post here if I find out any way to overcome this, but it looks like Google Play Services is probably necessary for the Play Store to function.
bsimpson1 said:
Unfortunately it looks like google play services is necessary to allow you to download apps from the play store. I didn't realize it at first because the checkin service had already done its thing and I was free to use everything until it was time for the next checkin. I'll post here if I find out any way to overcome this, but it looks like Google Play Services is probably necessary for the Play Store to function.
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I tried and failed. There's no workaround. >.< Play Store needs Google Play Services in order to work properly.
sonyu said:
I tried and failed. There's no workaround. >.< Play Store needs Google Play Services in order to work properly.
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Yeah, there is absolutely no workaround.Play Services forms the core for the Google Playstore App.hence it can't function without it.
didito said:
Will try this when I get the root.
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Yea, go ahead.
...Just wanna let you guys know, there's a google thread, in which people talk/ed bout the purpose of .services. Turns out you really need that sh*t!XD
It's like a framework you simply need to have installed- just like @donniemceduns said. ^ ^
Off-topic ― now, I'm on CM11, with no Google Play installed, therefore no .services running. I simply installed an alternative market. ^ ^
didito said:
Wow.. Can you tell me what alternative market you installed?
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I tried them all — Mobogenie used to be ****ty, works fine now.
.apk link- DIRECT DOWNLOAD LINK
Has all the apps from Google Play. No sign-in required.
I didn't like it; it's okay now. Use it as my primary market
If you find a better market, make sure to share a link!
didito said:
Thanks for the link. One question though. Lets say I install a kitkat rom. Can I remove all the Play Store services and their dependencies to improve my phone's performance? I plan to do this and let Mobilegenie be my only market. If this is possible how can I remove these services for good?
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Hi Didi,
Yea, sure.
You already know this, but for all the people who didn't bother to read the thread, removing .services will result in errors, whenever you try to open a google application(Play store for instance), which requires .services.
I used a kitkat ROM before- deleted all G-apps and installed my alternative market. No errors! ^ ^
As for Mobogenie, it's my primary market on CM11. It features autoupdates, even auto-install if your device is rooted. Sweet! :good:
UPDATE:
Oh, sorry @didito! Didn't notice the "how can I remove these services for good" part.
Install an Uninstaller app for rooted devices( Your device must be rooted).
In-app: Navigate to SYSTEM APPS & remove google play services and google play store.
If you're not sure which app to use, try "Root App Delete".
Question... Or, an observation anyway... Sorry to bring back an old thread but I've been wondering a similar thing
On my newer device, Samsung Galaxy s5 neo, play services are needed to run the play store. *however*, on my older device, Samsung captivate glide, play services are not required to open the store.
Both using stock but rooted software from Samsung.
Why would this be that it's possible on 1 but not the other?
Unless maybe because I have already debloated my older device, maybe removing other gapps is what it would take?
I don't have a data plan and therefore wouldn't use much if any of them (maps, etc)
It just has me wondering what has changed between the 2, and maybe even if I'd be able to use and run my other devices play store app, and then use disable service to stop it from fully updating?
Hmm... I know everyone else has likely given up long ago.... But I've been curious today.
Hey, guys.
I have just rooted my phone and I deleted bloatware and Google Play Store. My reason for this is that I spend WAY too much time online on my phone which I want to limit - therefore I have deleted both the Chrome Browser and Google Play Store (so I can't just go in and download Chrome again) and as stated above some bloatware.
However I have found out that my Gmail and other apps will not work without Google Play Store installed. I even tried to download and install the newest version of Google Play-Services without Play Store and it doesn't work. If I then install Google Play Store and Google Play-Services it all works.
So my question is this: is there a way to have Google Play-Services work without Google Play Store? Some of the apps are kind of important and I can't just replace them with another similar app. My hope is to be able to use all apps without Play Store installed.
Kind regards
Martin
MartinFriis said:
Hey, guys.
I have just rooted my phone and I deleted bloatware and Google Play Store. My reason for this is that I spend WAY too much time online on my phone which I want to limit - therefore I have deleted both the Chrome Browser and Google Play Store (so I can't just go in and download Chrome again) and as stated above some bloatware.
However I have found out that my Gmail and other apps will not work without Google Play Store installed. I even tried to download and install the newest version of Google Play-Services without Play Store and it doesn't work. If I then install Google Play Store and Google Play-Services it all works.
So my question is this: is there a way to have Google Play-Services work without Google Play Store? Some of the apps are kind of important and I can't just replace them with another similar app. My hope is to be able to use all apps without Play Store installed.
Kind regards
Martin
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Can't you just download it from APKMirror? So just sideload the apk. Should work, although I haven't tried it.
I already tried that and it only works when I also have Play Store installed :/
I have a weird need. I want google play services but no access to the play store. I discovered thorught that the play services "require" the google play store to be installed for the play services to work. So I wanted to know if their is some sort of fake play store apk that I can install that will allow the play services to work without the play store?
Any other ideas would be appreciated.
I am on a moto e4 qualcomm stock rooted. And I dont have a way to enable signature spoofing since its odexed.
I need the same. Google play services and full functionality with Gmail, Maps etc, without PlayStore. Any ideas?
I found something called "FakeStore", which simulates the existence of Play Store, however I have installed it in replacement of PlayStore, but applications such as Gmail and Notes still do not work, just as if PlayStore did not exist.
I'm still investigating.
More.
The FakeStore needs a patch called "FAKE_PACKAGE_SIGNATURE" to work.
This is the link of that patch, but I can not find a way to implement it, if someone can shed some light it would be appreciated.
feanor_twh said:
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The FakeStore needs a patch called "FAKE_PACKAGE_SIGNATURE" to work.
This is the link of that patch, but I can not find a way to implement it, if someone can shed some light it would be appreciated.
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Use fake store from MicroG download site.
You can use Aurora Store if you want access to playstore packages without using "Don't be evil".
Need some fake store spoofer to let apps think there is a playstore install for some of thoughs dependent apps that rely so much on daddy. So we can just get on with it.
Hi,
please please please have patient with with as i’m still on iphone waiting to sell it and buy android (after @5 years on apple ecosystem)
Before that, last android phone, i had note 3, rooted ...
My question is about having a degoogled phone with lineageos without any google service instaled (not even aurora that, from what i understood, can be installed via fdroid and used to install play apps) and use no more google/facebook services (e.g whatsapp).
The question: can i download an apk file from google store via a laptop (e.g: revolut, or other banks apps) upload them to the phone and install them?
If this will work, will be privacy compromised?
Is this safer than installing via aurora?
Another question: lets say ill use k9 mail for my gmail account. Will this help google target my phone in any way knowing at least my phone ip ?
Regards,
With Aurora ( a fork of Yalp ) app you download/update apps directly from the Google Play Store without a Google account.
Aurora is open-source hence you must not fear your Android gets compromised by it.
Downloading an app from 3rd-party websites - means not from Google Play Store - and installing it always carries the risk that malicious software is installed.
Note: Apps may not work if you uninstall Google Play Services.
jwoegerbauer said:
With Aurora ( a fork of Yalp ) app you download/update apps directly from the Google Play Store without a Google account.
Aurora is open-source hence you must not fear your Android gets compromised by it.
Downloading an app from 3rd-party websites - means not from Google Play Store - and installing it always carries the risk that malicious software is installed.
Note: Apps may not work if you uninstall Google Play Services.
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Thank your for your answer.
If it will not work, then I'll skip the app
Thank you again
So the Fire Toolbox ain't working right on the newest firmware 7.3.2.2, among other things broken, I couldn't install the Play Store. Here's how to do it manually.
Download Google Acct Mtg
then DL Google Services Framework
and Google Play Services
Finally Google Play Store
You can install it in the same exact order as above, that way after the Play Store installs, you have the option to open it, and login with your credentials and Then Knock yourself out installing whatever you want!
Talysdaddy said:
So the Fire Toolbox ain't working right on the newest firmware 7.3.2.2, among other things broken, I couldn't install the Play Store. Here's how to do it manually.
Download Google Acct Mtg
then DL Google Services Framework
and Google Play Services
Finally Google Play Store
You can install it in the same exact order as above, that way after the Play Store installs, you have the option to open it, and login with your credentials and Then Knock yourself out installing whatever you want!
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Works like a charm. Be sure to use the variants for Android 9+
link to Google Play Store above is wrong.
I use this and it works well
Google Play Store
Thanks!!!
Hi there, sorry for posting on a slightly older thread. I recently managed to get this working an a friend's HD Fire 10 (2021)... Does anyone know how to get offline navigation to work through Google Maps? I managed to install Maps and it works perfectly while online but as soon as Wifi is rurned off, GPS is lost and I cannot use Maps to navigate. I can only view the steps from "Point A" to "Point B".
Any help would be appreciated.