[Q] USB instead of wifi functionality? - Shield Q&A

I'm thinking about getting a Shield, but I've never bothered with wifi connectivity on my desktop PC. Can I still use the Shield as a USB gamepad? What about the streaming functionality?
Thanks for any answers!

Its not immediately clear *exactly* what you are asking here.
You can stream to the PC as long as you are on the same LAN, so if you connect the shield via wifi to your router and the PC has an ethernet connection to the router then that will work. Or you can use a USB-OTG adaptor in the shield with a USB ethernet adaptor to connect the shield to a router via ethernet too. If your desktop doesnt meet the requirements you can use splashtop instead of the official NVidia stuff.
The USB port on the shield though, well, its a regular android device. Its no different from plugging your phone into the PC. You can't use the shield as a USB gamepad like that. Best off just buying the wired version of the xbox controller if you want a PC gamepad, they aren't the cheapest (but they are far from the most expensive) but they are reasonably good quality and well supported

Just as a side note regarding Ethernet over OTG cable. Some apps (like the Play Store) won't connect unless you are using WiFi or mobile connection.
It's not the Shield's fault, just the app when it enumerates the network connectivity.
So far I only found the Play Store to ignore the network connection over Ethernet, same is true on all the devices I tested so far: TrimSlice (Tegra 2), TF201 (Tegra 3), My Touch 4G, Samsung Galaxy SIII and the Shield.
The Trimslice is the only one with a dedicated hardware Ethernet over PCIe, the others I used an OTG cable and hooked a USB HUB with Ethernet built in.
I don't stream PC games but when Nvidia was demoing the Shield's streaming capabilities they were using an Ethernet dongle so they didn't have to fight for WiFi connections from the attendees at the conferences they were presenting at.

To clarify, I was hoping I could simply plug in a Shield to my USB port and use it as a USB gamepad, but by the sounds of it that doesn't seem very likely.

Can't you just connect ps3 controllers to it over bluetooth? If you can't do that yet I'm sure you will be able to

gilrad said:
To clarify, I was hoping I could simply plug in a Shield to my USB port and use it as a USB gamepad, but by the sounds of it that doesn't seem very likely.
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No, you cannot unfortunately. If that is what you require, buy a wired xbox controller.

When you set a device to USB tether, it adds another USB profile that creates a network connection over the USB - with some hacking it might be possible to use this connection. I think adb can also do some kind of port-forwarding to allow communication between the device and the computer.
It might be possible to get something working, both for controller input and streaming, but not sure how difficult this would be or what the performance would be.
But I don't think any of this will work very easily out of the box unfortunately!
~Troop

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Ethernet connection via mini-usb?

Ok so I do a fair bit of IT support work these days and thought about all the nice little possibilities it would open up if I could connect my Touch Pro to the network or other devices directly via ethernet.
If you can get USB Network dongles these days, I don't see why you can't have a mini-usb one, but I don't see many around. Does anyone know of a product like this?
If there isn't one, perhaps you could ues a regular USB Network stick/dongle, and use a USB to mini-usb converter. Then I guess it would be a case of someone making a driver or app, right?
Any solutions or suggestions appreciated.
Thanks.
Have the same problem.
Lately I was wondering about the same thing. I've found some USB to RJ45 converters, and was wondering about drivers or app, have you finger something out?
"You care incorrect, sir." -Ed McMann
Take a good look at any USB cable: the two ends are different. One end is for a USB Host (desktopPC/Laptop/Mac). The other end is for a USB **Device** (thumb drive, wireless network dongle, **YOUR PHONE**). Trying to plug two USB *Devices* together would be like trying to plug two USB thumbdrives together to swap files... or more acutately, pluging a USB Network dongle to your thumbdrive to access it over teh internets. ooh, it would be sweet if it were possible.
well that's a bummer. I was thinking that the phone can act as a host when you use the internet connection sharing....
yeah, different kind of host. Actually trying to get that second type of host working myself (Internet Sharing): The USB connection is the bad guy here, by design it's either host or device.
Now you migth find *bluetooth* RJ45 device, but why not just buy a wireless router for your network and use your Fuze's Wifi capabilities? If you plugged a USB Wifi dongle into your desktop, that should be enough to use your fuze's wifi to connect... activsync style. don't ask me how to use it via Internet Sharing, still trying that.

[Q] 3.1 Host Mode & USB Ethernet

Does anyone know if the new host mode interface in 3.1 supports a USB Ethernet adapter? I'd like to be able to use one of these when I'm traveling and at a hotel that only has wired connections.
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Does anyone know if the new host mode interface in 3.1 supports a USB Ethernet adapter? I'd like to be able to use one of these when I'm traveling and at a hotel that only has wired connections.
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I wouldn't think so you would probably need some proprietary drivers to make the adapter work
Why not go with a small travel router? It's one more thing to carry but would satisfy the lan line only issue.
This one got some good reviews, not too pricey:
http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-300Mbps-Wireless-N-Travel-TEW-654TR/dp/B002G1CLS0
What about other uses? I'd love to have a usb serial adapter and a usb ethernet adapter so I can use the xoom for adminning devices and such.
linux drivers
Android uses a normal linux kernel, so anything supported by linux will be supported. I have used an external wifi, ethernet and usb-serial with an Android phone.

[Q] Shield as USB / BT gamepad?

Does the Shield work as a PC gamepad via USB or Bluetooth connection? I am not talking about the Steam/streaming option. I know that basically does work, but only for PCs capable of streaming(unlike mine). I thought it would be cool if you could plug into usb and use the shields gamepad to control a pc game. The benefit of this vs. streaming would be that the shield's screen could be blank, conserving battery. And if it worked via bluetooth you would have a wireless controller.
If these are not possible as-is I am sure they could be made possible with an android app and PC service. Is anyone else interested in this? If so I may try to create something.
Edit:
I have made an app that works over wifi. Get it here - Shield2PCGamepad
JM33 said:
Does the Shield work as a PC gamepad via USB or Bluetooth connection? I am not talking about the Steam/streaming option. I know that basically does work, but only for PCs capable of streaming(unlike mine). I thought it would be cool if you could plug into usb and use the shields gamepad to control a pc game. The benefit of this vs. streaming would be that the shield's screen could be blank, conserving battery. And if it worked via bluetooth you would have a wireless controller.
If these are not possible as-is I am sure they could be made possible with an android app and PC service. Is anyone else interested in this? If so I may try to create something.
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It doesn't. And it probably won't directly via USB (dont think android will allow you to access USB in the correct way). Bluetooth + a PC service is probably doable though.
Is there been any more progress looking into this? I would love to be able to use it just as a controller on the pc. it's much more comfortable then an xbox controller.
I would never use this over an Xbox controller. There is a weird dead zone on this controller so you can't play games like black Ops 2 with it.
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I just paired via BT to my Sony duo 11 however I do not have any app to allow gamepad to be used. Any ideas?
Sent from my SHIELD using xda app-developers app. ;p

USB cable for Streaming Movies?

Hry guys. New to Nvidia Shield. Was womdering if you can use the USB charging \ data cable and plug it into the usb port on the tv. Would this work? And do you need a special app to use it ?
I imagine that unless you are talking about reading some video files on your storage and playing those on the TV, no, it wouldn't work like that.
However, the Shield Portable does have a mini-HDMI port along with its micro-USB port. So you could just plug it into an HDMI port and you would have an instant mirror of your screen. In fact this is how you start up the "Console Mode" where you hook it to your TV and a charger, and you attach a Shield Wifi-Direct controller or a BT controller (or a wired USB controller I guess via a split charge/USB-OTG cable), and you have a nice way to stream your games from GRID, your comp, or native from the Shield to your big-screen TV.
TL;DR - No, wouldn't work. Don't need it though, you have an HDMI out on it.

[HELP] How can I theter my LTE connection to an OTG Ethernet adapter via USB?

Hi guys. I'm getting stuck with this problem. I don't have a good house network (my isp is terrible) so I started using my Smartphone (huawei nova 5t) to play with my xbox on online games. Until now i've been using the Hotspot (wifi),but it's instable and it pings a lot. So I was wondering how could I use a cable to use my LTE connection on my xbox via ETHERNET using the USB Thetering . I bought from amazon an adapter that's Type C-Ethernet. It's a really good one,but when I plug it to my phone,my Huawei doesn't let me use the USB thetering,I can't activate it. So I was asking if there is a way,an external app or something that could make me do that. My idea is LTE---> Otg Type C Ethernet---> Xbox one. I found nothing on the internet about this,all the threads are about using that OTG to connect my phone to a router and using the router internet,and it works perfectly that way,but I wanna use the cable in the opposite way. I wanna share my smartphone connection with my xbox. Can I do that with that otg or it's just impossible..? Thanks forward.
Hi there. I need the same thing! Sorry to bump late but at least there's only 2 of us.
I think it's called
REVERSED TETHERING via an ETHERNET dongle. (or HOST mode?)
It should be technically possible because ethernet dongles are supported by a lot of ROMs but this function is usually going in the other direction.
Tetrd is another useful search term.
Did you get further with this since you last posted this?
This could be related:
https://android.stackexchange.com/q...-hotspot-and-usb-tethering-so-that-they-are-i
If you can put a windows device between the set up, you can use the program Connectify to make your windows machine a router and choose the ethernet out and plug it into the xbox. And then usb tether the phone into the computer. Connecitfy works with speedify too so if you have multiple hotspots you can bond them together and get a more reliable connection.
Or, I suppose, a Raspberry Pi

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