I had a friend root my phone and I know if I want to flash a new build I rename the file update and drag it to my android folder then restart the phone a certain way and press alt s to load the build.
I love my g1 and the 1.5 build Im using but I cant get any further because Ive scoured the internet and these threads and I just cant figure out what all of this computer jargon means and I dont understand how anybody does know without taking classes in it.
I think I should make a nandroid backup and partition my sd card to run apps but good lord what does this mean (regarding nandroid)???---
"anyone who has root on their G1 and has the engineering/dev spl bootloader [1] (or has a dev phone) + a recovery image with busybox and adbd running as root [2"
and this (regarding sd partition)???---
pre-requisite "You created the FAT32 / EXT2 combo partitions" I mean this is a PRE-REQUISITE! I found a thread regarding the fat/ext deal and didnt understand it either.
I know nobody is here to babysit but is there some website somebody can direct me to to begin understanding what Im reading, I mean I read through the sd partition for dummies thread and I literally understood MAYBE 10% of the words, if thats for "dummies" im clearly the "dumbest"
I have the will I just dont have the way, ive typed the language i dont understand into every search engine I know of and Ive learned nothing. You guys are born geniuses
and what the hell's a "script"
No offense intended, but I don't think you should root your phone or carry out any of the procedures outlined in the developer forum. Following instructions to the letter is important when you are performing unauthorized and unsupported hacks, and most of those instructions assume an intermediate-to-advanced level of computing understanding.
As far as "where you learn it", I assume it varies from person to person. Although in nearly all cases, you learn it slowly by absorption when you are immersed in computing culture. Eventually if you lurk enough and see a word enough times in a particular context, you gain an understanding of what it means without being explicitly told.
You learn as you read through forums and threads and asking questions. If you're lucky, someone will explain it to you.
A script is like a programming language that controls a software application.
Nandroid is a tool or script you can use to backup your phone. It takes a bit of knowledge to restore from the backup though and requires a separate thread
You can read all about SPL's here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860
Can't help you with busybox/adb/recovery image right now.
FAT32 and EXT2 are just file type partitions. Think of a hard drive as a box. You put a divider cutting the box down the middle to split it into 2 compartments so each compartment can store something different. That's essentially what you do to a SD card when you create a FAT32 and EXT2 partition.
I learned all this by totally screwing things up, then reading, and reading some more. Then using the search function of the forum and of course more reading.
Now I understand a good deal about ADB, terminal, and the many, many other things that come with a rooted phone,,
I don't agree with the post that said if you don't get it don't try it.....
But that is cause I learn by doing...
As mentioned, doing this is a little complicated. The wrong step can temporarily brick your phone and then you'd have to know how to fix it, which in a way also requires a certain level of knowledge. It's best to learn and absorb the information first and to NOT be in a hurry to implement what you learn.
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I had a friend root my phone and I know if I want to flash a new build I rename the file update and drag it to my android folder then restart the phone a certain way and press alt s to load the build.
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This will be invaluable to fixing a botched up hack. Although, many times you'll also have to wipe (alt-w) to clear out your personal settings and personal data.
DMaverick50 said:
I love my g1 and the 1.5 build Im using but I cant get any further because Ive scoured the internet and these threads and I just cant figure out what all of this computer jargon means and I dont understand how anybody does know without taking classes in it.
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As mentioned, we all just love the stuff, and pick it up as we go. Most of us read extensively and have well set backgrounds on computers. If you want to get your degree in brain surgery, it helps to have basic knowledge of human anatomy, first.
DMaverick50 said:
I think I should make a nandroid backup and partition my sd card to run apps but good lord what does this mean (regarding nandroid)???---
"anyone who has root on their G1 and has the engineering/dev spl bootloader [1] (or has a dev phone) + a recovery image with busybox and adbd running as root [2"
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Nandroid is a backup program build into the... "recovery mode" for lack of a better description. It's where you do the alt-s at. Alt-b creates a backup of your system. To restore it, you must read the thread sticky that walks you through it.
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and this (regarding sd partition)???---
pre-requisite "You created the FAT32 / EXT2 combo partitions" I mean this is a PRE-REQUISITE! I found a thread regarding the fat/ext deal and didnt understand it either.
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As mentioned, FAT32 and EXT2 are types of filesystems. Think of it as being told to store a box in a wearhouse. The filesystem, in a sense, would be like the isles, shelves, etc. that help you not just have a giant pile of stuff.
This is asking you to have an SD card that has been partitioned off into two partitions (a giant wall in the middle of the wearhouse) where on one side you have one way of storing things that is easily understandable by the average joe (windows, linux, apple) and one side that is much more complicated but much more efficient to store things that only the wearhouse manager understand (linux.)
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I know nobody is here to babysit but is there some website somebody can direct me to to begin understanding what Im reading, I mean I read through the sd partition for dummies thread and I literally understood MAYBE 10% of the words, if thats for "dummies" im clearly the "dumbest"
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No. We all started somewhere. Nobody here came here and understood everything over night. Most of us have YEARS of experience in the computer field, if not decades. As far as knowledge here, it takes months of READING to really start to understand things. Once you do, THEN things will make sense and then you're less likely to break your phone.
DMaverick50 said:
I have the will I just dont have the way, ive typed the language i dont understand into every search engine I know of and Ive learned nothing. You guys are born geniuses
and what the hell's a "script"
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Read, read, read. That's my way.
And like mentioned, a script is just what it is in real life. Something you follow. If I gave you a movie script, you follow what it tells you to do while in the movie. In the computer world, it's the same. You write a script that tells the computer what to do.
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I see you joined few days ago. I suggest you start from the begining. i.e. read all stickies. Every questions that you've asked here was asked before by someone else and answered multiple times.
To offer a glimpse of hope here: it's a lot easier for n00bs now as more and more people get comfortable with Android and Android tools and it's not just 2-3 guys who can answer a question. Also, at this point we have apps that will run a script for you, move your apps and caches to SD, overclock you CPU, etc etc etc.
Welcome to XDA and good luck
For the APPS2SD do this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500387
OH, first backup EVERYTHING on your SD card to your desktop.
Open the terminal program... I always do this **** in adb cause you wont catch me dead trying to type and read a small screen when adb is copy and paste.
type
su
cd /data
wget http://64.105.21.209/bin/lib/droid/sdsplit
chmod 555 sdsplit
/data/sdsplit -nd -fs 7500M (thats for an 8 gig card. so adjust it depending on what side card you have 4 gig = 3500M etc...)
Now you need to make sure you have an APPS2SD rom... That makes /system/sd available. Now you have to copy and make "aliases" from the old spot to the new... Million threads on that one. Just wanted to give props to "MartinFick"s script (bunch of commands in a file I guess you can say. You can run any partitioning sw on windows 7 or I would of gone that route...
i appreciate the replies. Ive been on this forum for about month checking throughout the day (instead of paying attention to my professors) but only signed up recently to post.
I do understand the concept of nandroid and the sd partition, I just get lost in the processes very quickly. In my life Ive only learned by screwing things up so im ready for almost anything. I dont want to get stuck without a phone though so Ill definitely try to get a better understanding before trying anything dramatic. I guess Ill keep looking for some website that has a search where I can just type in all of the language I dont understand, surely this type of site exists I just havent found it yet...
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For the APPS2SD do this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500387
OH, first backup EVERYTHING on your SD card to your desktop.
Open the terminal program... I always do this **** in adb cause you wont catch me dead trying to type and read a small screen when adb is copy and paste.
type
su
cd /data
wget http://64.105.21.209/bin/lib/droid/sdsplit
chmod 555 sdsplit
/data/sdsplit -nd -fs 7500M (thats for an 8 gig card. so adjust it depending on what side card you have 4 gig = 3500M etc...)
Now you need to make sure you have an APPS2SD rom... That makes /system/sd available. Now you have to copy and make "aliases" from the old spot to the new... Million threads on that one. Just wanted to give props to "MartinFick"s script (bunch of commands in a file I guess you can say. You can run any partitioning sw on windows 7 or I would of gone that route...
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The steps seem doable but it says to use jesusfreak's build, i am on dude's will this be a problem? thanks
Simple...we are the borg! The apparent knowledge is actually just one giant shared conscience, connecting our minds together from the time we log onto XDA...and we think you should join us. *Evil Laugh*
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Simple...we are the borg! The apparent knowledge is actually just one giant shared conscience, connecting our minds together from the time we log onto XDA...and we think you should join us. *Evil Laugh*
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ROFL.
DMaverick50 said:
I guess Ill keep looking for some website that has a search where I can just type in all of the language I dont understand, surely this type of site exists I just havent found it yet...
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I'm not sure if that exists. You see, almost all of those terms were invented by people in THIS forum.
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The steps seem doable but it says to use jesusfreak's build, i am on dude's will this be a problem? thanks
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I did it on the dudes. Any (i think) build that enables the ext partition to be mounted to /system/sd will work...
So can I partition while on this regular build and then flash the apps2sd build or do I need to first download an apps2sd build and then do the actual partition?
some help
When it says to use the jf build that's just the one he used and is familiar with the steps the root hack the phone are the same no matter what. Now the thing you want to do is learn one proccess and stick with it weather it be abd, fastboot, or the sdcard method for beginners or noobs I do not suggest adb or fastboot cause it require knowing how to use a comand line and if you don't know what that is then don't try it. But like everyone says read about it first before you take the plunge also since you have a friend who can do it have him show you how he does it sometime seeing it done on the fly or being told while doing it with someone there to take over if things go wrong is always good. Have fun flashing and once you figure it out do it a few time to get used to it
DMaverick50 said:
I had a friend root my phone and I know if I want to flash a new build I rename the file update and drag it to my android folder then restart the phone a certain way and press alt s to load the build.
I love my g1 and the 1.5 build Im using but I cant get any further because Ive scoured the internet and these threads and I just cant figure out what all of this computer jargon means and I dont understand how anybody does know without taking classes in it.
I think I should make a nandroid backup and partition my sd card to run apps but good lord what does this mean (regarding nandroid)???---
"anyone who has root on their G1 and has the engineering/dev spl bootloader [1] (or has a dev phone) + a recovery image with busybox and adbd running as root [2"
and this (regarding sd partition)???---
pre-requisite "You created the FAT32 / EXT2 combo partitions" I mean this is a PRE-REQUISITE! I found a thread regarding the fat/ext deal and didnt understand it either.
I know nobody is here to babysit but is there some website somebody can direct me to to begin understanding what Im reading, I mean I read through the sd partition for dummies thread and I literally understood MAYBE 10% of the words, if thats for "dummies" im clearly the "dumbest"
I have the will I just dont have the way, ive typed the language i dont understand into every search engine I know of and Ive learned nothing. You guys are born geniuses
and what the hell's a "script"
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heheh .. didn't we mention we're all a bunch of geeks - LOL - genius cannot be found here (pointing at self) .. i have been known to have a couple bright ideas now and again tho
"script" is just a funny way of saying "we did the work for you" .. all those lines of text that nobody wants to type over and over and over are all neatly packed into one little file .. type the name of the file and VOILA!! all those lines of text are spit into the little pocket sized computer and you have no blisters on your thumbs to show for it
now .. if we could only find a script that got us thru rush hour traffic
DMaverick50 said:
So can I partition while on this regular build and then flash the apps2sd build or do I need to first download an apps2sd build and then do the actual partition?
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I did what I posted then flashed the APPS2SD rom and then transferred everything over, but when I flashed it it still had all my apps so I would say you can do it before also.
Remember to nandroid backup before you try and move all your files.
OT
Once you get adb running sending all these commands are so easy as you copy and paste and you can restore your phone back the way it was in 2 minutes...
southsko said:
I did what I posted then flashed the APPS2SD rom and then transferred everything over, but when I flashed it it still had all my apps so I would say you can do it before also.
Remember to nandroid backup before you try and move all your files.
OT
Once you get adb running sending all these commands are so easy as you copy and paste and you can restore your phone back the way it was in 2 minutes...
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i see. im so much more confident attempting the partition after these posts im tempted to ask for the same help with nandroid since ive looked through the threads. But I guess i should head to one of them and start asking questions i know they run a pretty tight ship around here with duplicate threads and off-topic ones and what not...
nandroid was so much harder to read in the thread than it actually is
I'm hoping this thread may help other people.... and will try and help till I run out of beer.. anyway
restoring a backup when you are can connect with fastboot is so simple. Once you get adb working then dl and put fastboot in the tool dir. Then you go to your sd card /nadroid/randomcrap/whatever date/ and copy the 3 files below into the same tools directory.
from the command line on your computer type
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash data data.img
I flashed to one of the first cupcake roms and was like **** this! flashed right back to my old backup. ahhhhh!!!
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nandroid was so much harder to read in the thread than it actually is
I'm hoping this thread may help other people.... and will try and help till I run out of beer.. anyway
restoring a backup when you are can connect with fastboot is so simple. Once you get adb working then dl and put fastboot in the tool dir. Then you go to your sd card /nadroid/randomcrap/whatever date/ and copy the 3 files below into the same tools directory.
from the command line on your computer type
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash data data.img
I flashed to one of the first cupcake roms and was like **** this! flashed right back to my old backup. ahhhhh!!!
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Get ready to laugh..............adb? Fastboot? Everything else looks straight forward ( I assume I'm copying the 3 things to sd thru cpu)...
lmao...
I have spent a couple of days in hell and would now like to share my experience as a big thank you to the XDA community. However, I am fairly noobish when it comes to Android so if you feel that this does not help, please feel free to delete this entry.
It all began when I restarted my G Tablet and got lots of popus about various applications, including acore, failing. I thought that this was due to me screwing up the system in some way after more or less having followed r34p3rex's superb guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827209.
Ignoring this for a moment I tried to install one of the NDK sample apps on the device. This failed with the message: "read only file system". Looking in logcat it was pretty apparent that this was also causing all other applications to fail, since they were logging errors with not being able to write under /data/.
Looking at dmesg output finally confirmed this, where it reported that the /data partition had journal errors and could only be mounted as read only (this was also confirmed by issuing the mount command from within an adb shell).
This led me on a journey from just trying to remount the partition as read only (which failed with no further message), through installing clockworkmod, different versions of tnt lite, formatting and repartitioning (or so I thought), to flashing the device through its APX interface (using nvflash). None of them worked.
Not until I read a post by raydog153 - in this archived thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-857875.html - did I succeed by re-partitioning the sdcard (under the advanced section).
You could argue that it was stupid to not realize that a re-partitioning was required in the first place - since the ext3 partition obviously had errors and Android does not provide a fsck command (or does it?) - but I guess I thought that this was what was actually being done in other clockwork commands or at least when doing the nvflash, but obviously that was not the case.
Anyway, sorry for the lengthy entry. I just wanted to give back to the community and help others who might get the same problems I had. Also, on the positive side I have learned a lot and, like someone else wrote, I have completely lost my noob fear of bricking my G Tablet.
Keep up the good work, guys! You Rock!
almost a week without problems with FCs, thanks for this usefull info.
Hello there
I havent done any kind of rom building for well over a year now and it seems that the update script seems to have changed to updater script along with update binary.
can anyone give me information or point me somewhere where i can learn this new method and can the building of the updater script and binary be an automatic process? as if it can i will write some software to do that and post it here as there is no where i can find with this information so must be frustrating for those not in the know
also do the update packages still require signing?
does nobody seriously know about the updater script nor update binary? normally i would post in development forum where i would get an answer but get told off for posting there. At the end of the day once i know the format i will write an application that would do it all for you.
looking through several updater scripts i get the whole mounting partitions thing to then write information to. the whole symlink thing with busybox, every rom i unzip seems to have different symlinks, is there a reason for this or can i look to see what symlinks are needed for a certain rom? this so far seems to be the bit im strugglin with?any help will be thanked with a donation
Hi Guys,
Since a couple of days I had a lot of apps crashing on my OneX (rooted, Android Revolution) and thought there was something wrong with the rom so I reflashed it but even with a clean rom crashes kept coming back, even without installing anything a couple of processes like com.htc.bgp and android.acore kept crashing/stopping.
I started looking at the logcat output and noticed that the crashes were the result of the data partition being read only and causing Sqlite to throw all kinds of exceptions when trying to write (logically)
When booting everything seems fine, the data partition is mounted RW but somewhere during operation the system remounts /data as readonly.
Usually this is because Linux detects a disk- or journaling error, so I tried running e2fsck on the partition from Clockwork Recovery and this indicated some errors so I fixed these but the problem still persists, random ro remounts with no apparent cause.
So a few questions I have :
- Does anyone have any idea why the system keeps remounting the partition ?
- How to circumvent it from remounting it as read-only ?
- Could this be a hardware failure of the internal memory ?
- Could an application error / exception cause this ?
Thanks in advance !!!
Cheers
Rob
Think your in the wrong forum this is the HTC one xl and it appears you have the international one x tegra 3
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Hi Guys,
I have a Samsung Tab 2 GT-P5113, rooted, and love it. I had to install drives and use Odin to get this ROM installed but it worked and it worked really well. Um, this is the one I used:
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-tab-2-10-1-root-clockworkmod-recovery-cwm-95536/
It is great, I love it, but it is not Jellybean. I have 4.0.4. Now I have ClockworkMod, love it, it really works well. So I downloaded the Milestone zip from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892046
I got the gapps to go with it, and used CWM to install it. CWM works really well, I rebooted to the CWM boot screen and chose the zip file, wiped all caches, and I did pick the make a backup first option and performed the install. The device booted to the little green guy and all the text details appeared. Wiping cache, etc., but when the zip installed, it failed with a Status 7 error, failed to mount /system/ errors such as fonts, device or resource busy, /system/app/ApplicationProvider.apk "Read only file system".
I saved the report log, it is very informative down at the end, last paragraph gives all the juicy details. I should publish this log if I want real help. Let me do it now. Yeah, here ya go:
http://home.comcast.net/~theohmster/text/cwm_fail.txt
Oh, I can attach it! The original CWM recovery.log is attached as a txt file. Duh! :silly:
Look at the last page of the attached log. I understand Linux so I actually know what all these errors mean. Read only files means that the installer does not have root permission. Resource busy means an open file. Can't find /sd-ext in /etc/fstab, now that is a good one, there is no fstab in the /etc/ directory, not even on the phone. But why they are occurring is out of my grasp as I am not a ROM developer and android OS is not Linux, exactly. ...ugh!
Why? I mean, I do not know what to do about this. I tried this several times, first time was a total failure, the MD5 was off by a mile, downloaded it again, got a good copy, could view in Winzip, MD5 matched, but this failure. I did this several times, thank God I had chose the backup first option in CWM and was able to restore the system in short order. The entire process took about ½ hour or less. Am I doing this wrong? I tried to understand cmenard's instructions and I don't quite understand what he is saying to do. The instructions are simple. Here is the URL to the download and instruction page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892046
But, it fails by my method, what do these instructions mean in plain English? Flash Rom, what do you mean "flash the Rom"? I got two zip files, gapps and milestone. What is this "Rom" to flash? Wipe I can do in CWM. Flash the zip. You mean install with CWM? Wipe the cache. Again? How? Run CWM again?
Flash Rom in CWM or TWRP
Wipe data/factory reset if you are coming from another ROM
Flash the zip
Wipe cache/dalvik cache
Then flash GApps.
Reboot
So like what am I doing wrong? I really want this Jellybean, especially for my Razr Maxx, but if it will not work on the tablet, I will not mess with my rooted 4.0.4 Razr where I really want JB. The phone was pretty fast 6 months ago, but it seems that all these updates and apps have slowed the thing to a crawl. I use Micro CPU Monitor and love it, two single pixel wide green lines at top screen, one for each core. They are often both pinned all the time so the phone is slow. Use it on the tablet too, same issue but nowhere near as bad on the tablet as it is on the phone. Like who wants to wait 60 seconds every time you touch the screen to make a call or use the maps? Jellybean is said to make things a LOT smoother and really grease the wheels to make ICS really slick and that would help, yes?
I showed the log to a developer on droidxforums, he is really good and made the CD iso files that boot the PC to Linux and rooted the phone. But he really was not sure of the issue and does not have this device.
Somebody help me please. I really want to fix this and am really bummed. Thanks. Happy New Year. :crying:
Okay folks, don't break a leg or anything in your mad dash to render assistance here. It is not worth it, take your time...
OK let me start up my computer and I'm gonna take a look...
Ok...
W:Unable to get recovery.fstab info for /datadata during fstab generation!
W:Unable to get recovery.fstab info for /emmc during fstab generation!
W:Unable to get recovery.fstab info for /sd-ext during fstab generation!
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AFAIK these are fine.
EDIT: The datadata one is questionable though.. that might be a typo somewhere (maybe... not totally sure. I know there's a /data/data directory, maybe a missing slash? Just thinking out loud here. Whatever it is, I doubt that this is your real problem. That would be the inability to mount /system
Couple questions/things to try.
Firstly, can you remount /system as RW in terminal emulator?
Second, can you install any custom ROMs other than CM10? Try any really, just want to see if the problem is CM10 or your device/CWM setup (Let's hope not the second one)
You do seem to be doing the CM10 install correctly from what I can see.
Oh, and thank you for having the sense to make a backup. Too many people don't and complain about bricking their device and having to ODIN to stock.
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FYI, datadata is a partition symlinked to /data/data, it is only present on some devices like my Fascinate where /data/data is stored on a different memory chip.
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