I'm grabbing one for my daughter today and she is going to want me to root, and flash a custom rom.
How stable is 4.2 and 4.3?
What roms/kernel combinations give the best battery life?
It's been a long time since I've used Odin "I think it was my galaxy s4g" since I've used it. The YouTube video under the how to post makes it look pretty easy.
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4.2 is pretty stable, although the trade off is shaky WiFi to 3g to 4g hand offs.. Its pretty much the same for 4.3 ROMs as well.. 4.2 is a little more polished compared to some of the small bugs that still are being worked out in 4.3 ... Both are 100% better then touchwiz IMHO. Hope that helps.
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Just use the stock kernals that come packed in cm 4.2 or 4.3.. And battery like in 4.2 is on par if not better than stock touchwiz.. 4.3 has a bit to go in that category
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Tunderpimp said:
I'm grabbing one for my daughter today and she is going to want me to root, and flash a custom rom.
How stable is 4.2 and 4.3?
What roms/kernel combinations give the best battery life?
It's been a long time since I've used Odin "I think it was my galaxy s4g" since I've used it. The YouTube video under the how to post makes it look pretty easy.
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What you're asking is a very subjective question. I'd say most of the roms are nice to run and it really matters what features you and your daughter are looking for. AOSP offers a pure Google experience, but you're missing out on some great features touchwiz has to offer. There are good things associated with both options that might weigh you to one side or another.
Basically, I think factors that affect battery life the most aren't rom and kernel related, but applications running on your phone. I find any custom kernel you run will operate more efficiently than a stock kernel. You may notice a slight increase in battery life, but you'll definitely notice a boost in performance.
I'd recommend not relying on what people tell you are good roms, because everyone is going to have a different experience as to which is the best, you're basically going to get a bunch of answers to the same question. Even though our phones are the same, minor hardware and cpu differences could make one rom spectacular on one phone, and cause lag and frustration on another. Trying out roms and playing with them is part of the experience of finding the perfect balance between battery life and performance for your phone.
Odin is extremely easy to use, just follow the directions exactly as stated and you shouldn't have any issues.
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I understand what you're saying I know with my phone Franco kernel only runs one core when the phone is a sleep and two with the ui and trinity is full performance. I wasn't sure if there was something like that here.
How stable stuff is really isn't a opinion.
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I understand what you're saying I know with my phone Franco kernel only runs one core when the phone is a sleep and two with the ui and trinity is full performance. I wasn't sure if there was something like that here.
How stable stuff is really isn't a opinion.
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You have a good premise, but stability is also linked to user error most of the time, unless you're talking about AOSP nightlies. If someone tells you they had a horrible experience on a certain rom, it's hard to take their word for it because you have no idea what other modifications they made to a rom, or if they followed flashing procedures correctly. It's not fair to the developer of a rom to have somebody who messed up their phone talk badly about it. It steers away a potential user from a rom choice and frustrates developers who put countless hours into their rom.
As far as your kernel question goes, I would look at the governor options available as that's what controls your cpu. You can gear any kernel to be more efficient or battery friendly with an app like set cpu. Ktoonsez and zues kernel have many governor choices available, as lean kernel would be much more stock like, but leaner. A governor such as pegasusq will control both your cores and only turn your second on if needed.
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Hey guys,
Before you completely write off this thread, just know this is a serious inquiry and is coning from someone with experience in many different devices (rooting, flashing etc.)
My question is, are there any huge benefits to deviate from stock? The reason behind this question is that on the devices I have had in the past, most roms (and even themes) tend to end up trying their hardest to emulate the aosp experience. Some roms (cm7) even do this really well.
Since this device is the aosp experience, essentially being the flagship android device, what benefits would result in flashing something over stock? I know there are potentials for a little more snappiness, battery life, but are they big differences?
Basically I am new to this particular device, am happy with it, and just want to know if the custom software has really taken the phone to 11?
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Any input or recommendations are appreciated.
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Because this phone is AOSP, there is less of a reason to root and ROM. However, there are just a few things stock doesn't provide that I absolutely need (while you may not).
Such things are the notification widgets and BLN.
Other little tweaks I like is the built-in screenshot ability, long press back to kill apps, some status bar modding and a little underclocking.
As you can see, there is little benefit if these things aren't important to you as there isn't a MUST HAVE feature among us that requires root. I'd say BLN is a must have but I notice many people don't need or like it so again, it's all based on preference.
Most ROMs are basically updated versions of the stock experience.
Since I'm using the NxS I tried a lot of different ROMs, but only 3 are on my list that I'd come back to any day. Mostly because they have visible features/improvements and aren't "just" (don't take this negative) modified under the hood.
Those 3 are: Stock ROM, MIUI and CM. Stock ROM for being the source, MIUI for being the most themed ROM with a unique (yaya, I know iPhone-ish) look and CM for all it's changes and new additions (camera button, lockscreen etc). Not putting down the other AOSP ROMs out there, but they don't give me personally enough to choose them over Stock.
So as far as underclokcing roms... large battery improvements?
What is BLN?
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So as far as underclokcing roms... large battery improvements?
What is BLN?
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BLN = Backlight Notifications
This is when the soft keys (Back, Menu, Search, Home) on the front of the phone light up when there is a notification. An invaluable feature if you ask me considering Samsung always skimps out on the notification LED.
As for underclocking, I find that I can underclock less on my Nexus S than with my Captivate. I could underclock my Captivate to almost -150s before a reboot while I can only do -50s with the Nexus. As such, I don't think it's that great of an improvement but every little bit counts right? I can see many people thinking -50 isn't worth the hassle but it could just be my phone that is adverse to UC.
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So as far as underclokcing roms... large battery improvements?
What is BLN?
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BLN = BackLight Notification, basically the 4 software buttons below the display will light up/blink on a notification.
Underclocking alone doesn't slice the bread, you need to undervolt to save meaningful amounts of battery life. Using the kernel in my signature compared to stock I'm saving noticable amounts of battery life (no, it won't turn your Android phone into a dumbphone, in terms of battery life). Head over to development section for more kernels.
/EDIT: ok Enhanced is taking care of that now
Awesome. Sounds good and the BLN are a great idea.
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IMO the stock phone is extremely fast and smooth. With 2GB ram I also haven't seen any apps being forced out of memory.
So with a custom rom, all the speed tweaks etc, what exactly is improved over the stock phone. Do apps launch faster, less lag etc? Are there any videos comparing stock vs custom (esp AOSP vs TW) ?
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IMO the stock phone is extremely fast and smooth. With 2GB ram I also haven't seen any apps being forced out of memory.
So with a custom rom, all the speed tweaks etc, what exactly is improved over the stock phone. Do apps launch faster, less lag etc? Are there any videos comparing stock vs custom (esp AOSP vs TW) ?
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I personally just used AOSP for about a day, switched back due to a few bugs, but it was definitely speedy quick. Faster than stock? Yes for sure, but stock is super fast as it is. As for AOSP vs TW, i'd love to stay on AOSP but i love the TW camera and just can't get over not having it You should try custom roms for each one and just see what you prefer
If you look on YouTube you will find several reviews on roms currently available for our gs3.
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At this point in time they offer no advantage over stock. Hopefully one day they will but Samsung did such a great job on the stock Rom for a change that our custom roms are a little faster but with a few things broke or bad battery life or bad 3g/4g hand off.
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At this point in time they offer no advantage over stock. Hopefully one day they will but Samsung did such a great job on the stock Rom for a change that our custom roms are a little faster but with a few things broke or bad battery life or bad 3g/4g hand off.
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At this point in time they offer no advantage over stock. Hopefully one day they will but Samsung did such a great job on the stock Rom for a change that our custom roms are a little faster but with a few things broke or bad battery life or bad 3g/4g hand off.
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I agree 100%.
I have tried every ROM available at this point & I always end up going back to the setup in my sig.
I always chuckle when I read post claiming a ROM is smoother/faster/less lag etc than a completely debloated stock ROM like CleanROM or Synergy. Talk about the ultimate placebo affect......
Most have issues but many offer huge advantages from deep functionality to deep customization. If those interest you, perhaps small issues in stability or data usage are a worthwhile tradeoff. Not to mention that the simple fact that you CAN do such a thing is a very fun and educational experience about what is special with android.
Also, debloated, over clocked TouchWiz Roms like CleanRom are faster and able to be set up for greater battery savings. Without question. It's a large field! Have fun by doing, you can always go back without cost!
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The title of the thread was "...how fast..." I've posted on this before. Can we humans detect the subtle differences? Are the new roms simply a placebo effect of speed? I don't know.
What I look to are facts. The only facts we can use in comparing roms are the benchmarking tools. I have tried many different roms...Incu's, Slim's, Synergy's, Phantom, etc.....I have recently been flashing the Incubus Jellywiz roms pretty regularly, but got frustrated with some of the bugs ( more on these later ). So I went and retried the latest Slim and Synergy.
I can say. There was a perceptable difference between Slim/Synergy vs. Jellywiz. So I did a benchmark test. I tested each rom under pretty much the same conditions.
1. Flash the latest.
2. Disable the same Allshare/Samsung crap.
3. Load all my apps using Titanium.
4. Let the Rom settle for a most of the day
5. Test in the evening
No Overclocking...No other special changes.
I tested Using Antutu and Quandrant Standard....Slim and Synergy were about the same...in the high 4k's...around 4800 Antutu. Incubus' Jellywiz is always around 7800. Slim/Synergy was around 4800 in Quadrant, Jellywiz is consistantly up near 6000.
There are trade-offs / bugs / features....but...if you're looking for speed, I don't think you can find anything faster that Jellywiz.
The latest Custom has a custom overclocking kernal....for fun I bumped it up to 1800mhz and ran a 9500 Antutu. right now I'm running 192min 1200max and still pull a 7200 antutu score.
You pick:
> Speed = Jellywiz
< Bugs = Custom stock
My $0.02
CleanRom 2.1 with the CleanKernel 1.2 runs excellent for me, no problems, definitely quicker than stock, very smooth.
I'm currently running latest stock Android 4.1.2 on my Nexus S. It appears that official Google support has come to an end and therefore there is no point keeping the original software. It also seems to me that current version of Android on Nexus isn't exactly a good example of well optimized software which is the reason why I'm looking for an alternative.
My requirements are speed, stability and possibly better battery life. Extra functionality is not important, I'm happy with 4.1.2 as it is. However I don't want to downgrade to ICS not to mention Gingerbread.
So could you recommend me a good alternative rom for Nexus S, based on your own experience? I'm currently thinking of CyanogenMod because there is plenty of people behind it and its really famous so I guess it should be stable and reliable but I haven't decided yet. What do you think?
I use AOKP with the marmite kernel. Works great.
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Also 4.2 for me with marmite kernel for sure
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I use SlimBean 3.1 with stock kernel...Works great....I waiting the 4.2 crespo rom from slimbean....!!!
CM10 with either stock or Marmite kernel.
Perfection.
For me, it's CM10 with stock Cyanogen Kernel... i'm waiting for Cyanogen 10.1 ^^
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For me, it's CM10 with stock Cyanogen Kernel... i'm waiting for Cyanogen 10.1 ^^
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I meant default CM kernel.
Speed, stability and features are brilliant for a device that is now 2-years-old.
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I meant default CM kernel.
Speed, stability and features are brilliant for a device that is now 2-years-old.
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Same here currently on cm 10 stable with default kernel for weeks now it's been really fast and stable. Was surprised. I had tried cm10 when it came out for our device and it was pretty bad stability and battery wise so I went to aosp roms.... Gave stable a shot and wow it has come a looooooong way in such a short time
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For me, it's CM10 with stock Cyanogen Kernel... i'm waiting for Cyanogen 10.1 ^^
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Another vote for CM10. I'm currently using the new rasbean, but if 4.1.2 is good with you, I'm not sure anything can beat the stability of the stable version of CM10.
Having tried tons of amazing ROMs on ICS, I feel there were more stable and fluid options than with 4.1... That's not to say 4.1 didn't have great ROMs, I'm just saying that it was harder to find a stable, speedy, efficient 4.1 ROM... If you want to stay with 4.1, then I can only vouch for BAKEDbean 6... I haven't tried as many 4.1's as I did with 4.0... From memory, Slim Bean was pretty good... I just didn't like some of the included options...
Now here's what I can say about 4.2 ROMs... Since you don't mind missing some included features like theme chooser, statusbar tweaks, etc... Then I would highly suggest Rasbean with Matr1x CFS 24.0 (non-cm version)... I always told myself that I would never use a ROM without theme chooser... But after trying this ROM, I've discovered that speed and fluidity is way more important to me than a few extra features... This ROM is amazing... I'm getting much better battery life with this combo than with any 4.1 combo I tried... At the very least, give it a try
*edit* in case you see reviews or read somewhere that it's not a "stable" release... I would ignore that crap because I haven't had a single issue with this ROM other than the phone app fc'ing after some calls which is 4G related... and since you're on crespo, you won't have that problem... Everything works on this ROM!!!
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rom cm 10 stable version with kernel matr1x v24
Cm10 with marmite kernel beast
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Hey, thanks to all of you guys. I switched to CyanogenMod 10 since many of you have recommended it and it also seemed to me pretty solid and reliable. Nexus S now does seem a little bit faster and more fluid however it's hard to tell after less than a day of using it. I won't go back anyway, those few extra features are really nice. My problem with stock JB was that it suffered from some kind of memory leak... quite often I ended up with literally 0 MB of free ram. The phone also got quite often to a state of total unresponsiveness for few moments without any obvious reason. None of these problem has occured in CM so far however for example during heavy usage, when I go back to home screen, the launcher is really slow (1-2fps) for few seconds. But I guess I can't expect much from 2 year old hardware.
You also mentioned several alternative kernels... what can I expect from that in daily usage?
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Hey, thanks to all of you guys. I switched to CyanogenMod 10 since many of you have recommended it and it also seemed to me pretty solid and reliable. Nexus S now does seem a little bit faster and more fluid however it's hard to tell after less than a day of using it. I won't go back anyway, those few extra features are really nice. My problem with stock JB was that it suffered from some kind of memory leak... quite often I ended up with literally 0 MB of free ram. The phone also got quite often to a state of total unresponsiveness for few moments without any obvious reason. None of these problem has occured in CM so far however for example during heavy usage, when I go back to home screen, the launcher is really slow (1-2fps) for few seconds. But I guess I can't expect much from 2 year old hardware.
You also mentioned several alternative kernels... what can I expect from that in daily usage?
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I have not an ounce of lag on rasbean 4.2.1... I didn't think it would get better than 4.1 but it clearly does... I don't think everyone that recommended cm10 has even tried a 4.2 ROM yet... BTW, cm10.1 will be released soon and I'm sure everyone with update then...
For kernel, use airkernel or matr1x... Think of the kernel as the brain of the phone... It tells the phone what to so with the hardware... So you can tweak things foe better speed or better battery or even attempt to get a good balance between the two...
My last time mentioning it... I would strongly recommend you to backup your current setup and flash the 4.2 ROM with matr1x 24.0... That is all
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I have not an ounce of lag on rasbean 4.2.1... I didn't think it would get better than 4.1 but it clearly does... I don't think everyone that recommended cm10 has even tried a 4.2 ROM yet... BTW, cm10.1 will be released soon and I'm sure everyone with update then...
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Really it does work that well? Hmm then it is really sad that Google has cut off Nexus S from official updates. I will definitely try 4.2 but I will probably wait for CM 10.1 if you say it will be released soon.
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For kernel, use airkernel or matr1x... Think of the kernel as the brain of the phone... It tells the phone what to so with the hardware... So you can tweak things foe better speed or better battery or even attempt to get a good balance between the two...
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Well I know what the kernel is (I have been using Linux on my desktop for several years ) I was just curious how one can benefit from using an alternative kernel for Android. You say I can tweak things for better speed or battery life... does it mean that I can for example sacrifice 30% of battery life and exchange it for 30% of performance in gaming? What are the limits of this tweaking?
I know the n5 on cm11 is very fast, but I just wanted to know is there any little tweaks to make the rom even better / faster?
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I know the n5 on cm11 is very fast, but I just wanted to know is there any little tweaks to make the rom even better / faster?
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Tring another custom rom can improve the user experience for instance
Some ROMs have a mod to improve the scrolling cache. You can also add some tweaks / features through Xposed, flash a custom kernel and so on... A lot of things to try actually ^^
Hmm better anything to improve performance or smoothness?
a different rom and kernel than cm. i wouldnt ever call cm fast or on top in performance. cm is more bloated then anything else. but if all youre looking for is mods, then cm is good.
Reduce animations, f2fs.
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Already have , I was just wondering how to get of the very little lags that come now and then
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Already have , I was just wondering how to get of the very little lags that come now and then
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go away from cm
Why? Is other roms drastically faster?
AOSP!
If they are much better, can you tell me why? Also, would you recommend me any rom
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If they are much better, can you tell me why? Also, would you recommend me any rom
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It's a nexus device. Just use stock. It's a good as it gets.
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It's a nexus device. Just use stock. It's a good as it gets.
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Not true. Google's ROM is optimized for certain uses, mainly just general use. Different custom ROMs are developed for different types of uses.
One reason there are no best ROM threads allowed. Different users prefer different ROMs because they use their phones in different ways. It is also part of the fun of experimenting. You can see how different ROMs react to your personal usage and most people usually settle with the one that fits them best, except flashaholics. Had my phone less than a month, went through about five ROMs, 4 custom and stock. Finally settled on slimkat as I like the features.
This also holds true for kernels.
If you want a rom that's basically stock with a few improvements in key areas with great performance and batt life, I suggest going Purity Rom + Code Blue. The kernel is optional as it also works well with Franco
Hey guys.. Returned after a long time on XDA.. Was using unrooted nexus since a year now..
Planning to unlock bootloader and get a custom kernel for my n5 currently on lollipop having LRX210..
Which would be the best kernel for stock ROM..?
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Hey guys.. Returned after a long time on XDA.. Was using unrooted nexus since a year now..
Planning to unlock bootloader and get a custom kernel for my n5 currently on lollipop having LRX210..
Which would be the best kernel for stock ROM..?
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"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
Also, please note that as above, "best" is still subjective. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
Also, please note that as above, "best" is still subjective. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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I know this.. Got your point, Visiting XDA like after a year almost so forgot how even I used to answer to such stupid questions.. Will go through kernels.. Want kernel just for root and recovery and undervolting..
I would change it to say which is the most stable kernel with the stock ROM?
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I know this.. Got your point, Visiting XDA like after a year almost so forgot how even I used to answer to such stupid questions.. Will go through kernels.. Want kernel just for root and recovery and undervolting..
I would change it to say which is the most stable kernel with the stock ROM?
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They're all pretty stable. Personally I prefer to use ElementalX, but really just look for features and try
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They're all pretty stable. Personally I prefer to use ElementalX, but really just look for features and try
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Hmm thanks
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