I know it has 1GB Internal storage but how much of that is used by Android/Sense and how much is left for the user?
I have seen some reports that say that the Sensation actually has 4GB internal but only 1GB is user accessible. Does this mean that the other 3GB are used for OS/Sense and the user sees the full 1GB free on first boot?
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Correct. The actual amount of available memory will be approximately 1.20 GB.
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Correct. The actual amount of available memory will be approximately 1.20 GB.
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Thanks, I can live with 1GB as long as it's all for me and not also taken up by Android/Sense
What happens when the 1gb space runs out. Can I not install anymore apps? 1 gig is quite small if its only for apps.
I will be coming from an iPhone, so you can understand my memory question.
Thanks.
simacca said:
What happens when the 1gb space runs out. Can I not install anymore apps? 1 gig is quite small if its only for apps.
I will be coming from an iPhone, so you can understand my memory question.
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Even though the iPhone has 16/32 gigs of internal memory and all of that is technically available for apps/games, I HIGHLY doubt you are using anywhere close to a gig. Apps are VERY small, shockingly. Also most games which are the biggest apps you can get on Andriod install all the extras on your SD card and never make a footprint on the internal memory. Basically what I mean by this is, if you use 1 GIG for apps... you sir have WAY to many apps lol. I have about 70 apps (not including system apps) and I am only using 578MB of my 1.2 GB interal memory. Most of those apps I could easily uninstal as I seldom use them, but I dont feel like it lol
I have about 8 gigs worth of apps/games on my 16gb iPhone 4. Quite a few of the decent arcade games are about 400mb.
I dont think I have too many apps on my iPhone and I would of thought most iPhone users have much more than 1gb worth of apps on their phones. You can never have too many apps
Can you install more than 1gb of apps on the Samsung Galaxy S2's internal memory?
If so, then why cant we install to the memory card when we run out of internal memory?
Would make things so much easier. I'm hoping that this will not put me of the Sensation when I finally get my hands one one
All I can say to that is damn... that is a lot of freaking apps. I have what I feel is well more then enough games and apps on my phone and haven't hit a gig. I should ask my cousin how much he has on his iPhone. I could never have that much stuff on my phone. And yes you can install 90% of apps on your SD card as well so you should be fine if you do hit your 1 GIG. Mostly widgets are the only thing that can not be installed on the SD card
Well thats good to know. At least I wont be worrying so much about running out of memory.
I don't play with half of my apps regularly, but it's good to know that they are there if I get bored
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I have about 8 gigs worth of apps/games on my 16gb iPhone 4. Quite a few of the decent arcade games are about 400mb.
I dont think I have too many apps on my iPhone and I would of thought most iPhone users have much more than 1gb worth of apps on their phones. You can never have too many apps
Can you install more than 1gb of apps on the Samsung Galaxy S2's internal memory?
If so, then why cant we install to the memory card when we run out of internal memory?
Would make things so much easier. I'm hoping that this will not put me of the Sensation when I finally get my hands one one
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Having an iPad and an iPod I can understand your thinking. But with android even the big apps store their data ie game sounds etc on the sd card and the initial app is really small. There is a thing called apps to sd where you can choose to have the apps on the sd. Also as long as the sensation gets rooted at some point correct me if I'm wrong but you should have no problem filling your sd card with whatever apps you want as google have opened the file size restrictions for apps for developers.
I recently bought a One S and one thing that has really been bugging me is the fact that I have much les storage than advertised. It says that you get 16 GB, but the actual amount is 12.14, and
2.21 of that is internal memory so I only actually have 9.93 to store my media. Why is this? Also it says it should have 1 GB of RAM but task manager says I only have 650 MB.
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I recently bought a One S and one thing that has really been bugging me is the fact that I have much les storage than advertised. It says that you get 16 GB, but the actual amount is 12.14, and
2.21 of that is internal memory so I only actually have 9.93 to store my media. Why is this? Also it says it should have 1 GB of RAM but task manager says I only have 650 MB.
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16 GB storage is partitioned and some RAM is reserved for the system and the GPU.
tjamzt said:
I recently bought a One S and one thing that has really been bugging me is the fact that I have much les storage than advertised. It says that you get 16 GB, but the actual amount is 12.14, and
2.21 of that is internal memory so I only actually have 9.93 to store my media. Why is this? Also it says it should have 1 GB of RAM but task manager says I only have 650 MB.
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First off no hdd or flash memory is ever 100% as advertise because its been formatted to run. That's why there is only 12gb instead of 16gb. And that 2gb is the space dedicated to app installs. And the remainder is for you to do with however you please. Music, videos, extra game data (like many of gameloft games where you need to dl an extra 500 MB or so) or whatever you else you want to throw on other then an app install.
When you see an app in market and you download it and install it, it goes directly to that 2gb partition. If you download an app from a third party website it first goes to the 9gb space and once it installs it, it installs on the 2gb and all you need to do is delete the original dl .apk or keep it as a back up.
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The above answers covered the answer so no need to reiterate but I just want to opine that you should consider yourself lucky, HTC doesn't rape you like Motorola does. On the Razr and Bionic, they are advertised as 16gb internal but only 8 is accessible to the user. They allot 4gb for apps and 4 for the OS. Bonus for them is obviously expandable memory.
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System takes the resources
On many phones the preinstalled software takes a lot of space. I would recommend to install another ROM. I always do that to get rid of the software I don't need.
Ok. Thanks for the help. But what about the RAM? Shouldnt all of it be available?
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Ok. Thanks for the help. But what about the RAM? Shouldnt all of it be available?
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As already said, some of the RAM is reserved for the system and GPU. For example my HD2 should have 576MB RAM but it only has 411/403 (depends on the ROM/Kernel I guess) because 128MB is for the GPU and the rest is used by the system. I never actually get that much free RAM (I never get more than 200MB free, and that's only on startup; normally I have around 130MB free) but at the same time it's never really been an issue.
Ok. I just though that everything was shown together because I always have 500 MB of RAM used even with all applications closed.
The phone will still reserve some RAM for itself, and that is not the best indicator of RAM that's actually in use.
HTC One S is a gorgeous piece of hardware. To bad they didn't add sd card support...
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My iPad is advertised 16 gb but its 13. Is the answers here applicable to that?
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On many phones the preinstalled software takes a lot of space. I would recommend to install another ROM. I always do that to get rid of the software I don't need.
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System software installed on separate partition usually. So removing them will not add more space to the user data.
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My iPad is advertised 16 gb but its 13. Is the answers here applicable to that?
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Hi Friends,
I want to buy a new phone but i am confused between xperia s and samsung galaxy s2. I feel that the only downside in xperia s is the 32 GB fixed memory.
Is 32 GB really enough? I have also heard that only 25 GB is available for the user, why is it so? What's occupying the rest of the storage space? Is it the pre installed bloatware? Is there an easy way to get rid of it, I mean without rooting?
Another big question is what is the size of full HD videos taken by xperia s?
Please help......
vikrant1982 said:
Hi Friends,
I want to buy a new phone but i am confused between xperia s and samsung galaxy s2. I feel that the only downside in xperia s is the 32 GB fixed memory.
Is 32 GB really enough? I have also heard that only 25 GB is available for the user, why is it so? What's occupying the rest of the storage space? Is it the pre installed bloatware? Is there an easy way to get rid of it, I mean without rooting?
Another big question is what is the size of full HD videos taken by xperia s?
Please help......
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The question is, is 32Gb enough for YOU ? Do you store music / video or stream ? I hardly use any of my internal 16Gb, but I do like having an external SD to load my music on to - I don't have to worry about it competing for space with apps, and I can pretty much put anything I want on there without having to pick and choose (I only have ~25Gb of music, so I could conceivably put it ALL on an SD card, even). But some people don't need that.
The OS and pre-loaded apps occupy the space that's already taken. It's like that with any OS - it's going to take up space.
As for the HD video question... I'd look up the bit rate and do some math.
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So how do u move some games data that fill up almost all internal storage to my sdcard? i have no option if i got a game that takes alot of space to even move it ? whats wrong ? the sdcard is visible says 2gb used and 28gb free but i cant move any app or game to sdcard i dont understand ?
The new 6.0.1 v. 1.2 works fine.
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I would also like to know how to move apps to sd card in Marshmallow.
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The new 6.0.1 v. 1.2 works fine.
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Can you please help with that?
Works the same as it did in lollipop ie its broken
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Works the same as it did in lollipop ie its broken
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I should point out that I only ever got it working with 32 gig cards or smaller even formating in PC
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Works the same as it did in lollipop ie its broken
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I should point out that I only ever got it working with 32 gig cards or smaller even formating in PC
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Well that sucks, my smaller 32gb sd card is way slower than my new 64gb sd card.
mortuus82 said:
So how do u move some games data that fill up almost all internal storage to my sdcard? i have no option if i got a game that takes alot of space to even move it ? whats wrong ? the sdcard is visible says 2gb used and 28gb free but i cant move any app or game to sdcard i dont understand ?
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You could try FolderMount as I suggested here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet/help/adopting-internal-storage-results-t3297419
As I said I haven't tried the app on MM but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work but YMMV.
really starting to p me off!!
what is this all about, not bein able to move apps to sd! it seems only certain and few phones allow it now rather than the developers. this is my second phone to have 6.0, the first one i returned because it was only 8 gb internal (which is really only 3,5 after system mem) and i recently have gotten into games, games that mind you can take upwards of almost three gb, i returned it for a lg phoenix 2 16gb only to find out that there is NO option to move to sd, its really a punh in the crotch to buy a phone with 16gb only to have 9 useable gb, after all the pointless crap they force us to have that cant be moved,,,"well root your phone then" everybody says, oh, well, i happen to be one of the few luckies that have alwasys purchased a phone that a rooting method has never been found, and no i refuse to spend 600 bucks on a "popular" phone,, that always has a way to be rooted just to one up my friends, and im too broke this is my fifth unrootable phone, And i cant move my apps? wtf!!!! ive never been an apple man, but this has me knocking on their door..i have researched and tried everything, watched videos and read novels of it being done, some say to format the sd as internal, i say impossible, guess what, no option for that either, only format, no internal. how in the F*** do move my apps, or even better how the crap do i downgrade back to lollipop??????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
I haven't explored with the Shield Tablet (16G is enough for my apps currently, so my SD card is portable storage). But on my Moto G3, Marshmallow removed the ability to move apps to SD unless you've integrated it as adopted (i.e., internal) storage. If the SD is mounted as portable storage apps can't be moved to the card. Again, not positive if this is also the case for the Shield, but it wouldn't surprise me.
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what is this all about, not bein able to move apps to sd! it seems only certain and few phones allow it now rather than the developers. this is my second phone to have 6.0, the first one i returned because it was only 8 gb internal (which is really only 3,5 after system mem) and i recently have gotten into games, games that mind you can take upwards of almost three gb, i returned it for a lg phoenix 2 16gb only to find out that there is NO option to move to sd, its really a punh in the crotch to buy a phone with 16gb only to have 9 useable gb, after all the pointless crap they force us to have that cant be moved,,,"well root your phone then" everybody says, oh, well, i happen to be one of the few luckies that have alwasys purchased a phone that a rooting method has never been found, and no i refuse to spend 600 bucks on a "popular" phone,, that always has a way to be rooted just to one up my friends, and im too broke this is my fifth unrootable phone, And i cant move my apps? wtf!!!! ive never been an apple man, but this has me knocking on their door..i have researched and tried everything, watched videos and read novels of it being done, some say to format the sd as internal, i say impossible, guess what, no option for that either, only format, no internal. how in the F*** do move my apps, or even better how the crap do i downgrade back to lollipop??????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
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Dude, stop complaining and you really need to write clearly so other people can read your post.
Conclusion: there is a way to bypass and use SD card as internal storage, but it is not a good idea.
Here is why:
I have a LG K371, and a G.Skill 64GB microSD with speed class 10. The microSD is not as good as Sandisk's speed class 10, as it read/write at 45/15 MB/s vs Sandisk 80/20 MB/s.
The original 16GB internal storage read/write at about 100/70 MB/s (I don't remember the exact number).
After using ADB command tool, I did successfully bypass and be able to use microSD as internal storage. The process is a bit annoying, because I kept seeing error message and sometimes the phone show "SD card is corrupted". I repeat this process multiple times and did some test with differing configuration.
If I use all the space as internal storage, the speed is about 15/7 MB/s
If I use half the space (so I can use the card on computer), the speed is 13/5 Mb/s
If I use 16GB of space as internal storage, the speed is on 9/3 MB/s.
The speed difference is caused by the special file partition format used for adoptable storage, which can't be access by windows computer.
You see, even with a 64GB speed 10 SD card, the speed drops to 15/7 MB/s. It is as slow as USB 2.0 flash drive.
Not to mention if you use a 16GB SD card, the speed is only 9/3 MB/s, which is intolerably slow.
The real problem is that the phone doesn't recognize the speed difference between the SD card and the internal memory, it still thought the phone is running at 70MB/s. So when it installs apps to the memory or start a game (was supposed to be in the internal memory, but now in the SD card), it took way more time (do the math yourself, 70/7=10). Are you willing to wait for 2 minutes for a game to start, which originally took 5 sec? How about the endless lagging in the app, every thing takes 2 sec to response?
Use Sandisk may get a different speed result, but the user experience in this case will be similar.
So don't force to use SD card as internal storage if the phone's manufacture doesn't approve doing so.
Hope my story help you in some way.
@darian_420
I have nst k1, my tests (samsung pro 64gb) are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shi...card-performance-comparison-exfat-vs-t3312982 post #8
I don't use adopted storage - I'm waiting for Nougat.
Ps.
Link2sd+ can move obbs to sdcard(external).
@dzpcool
Yours sd card(G.skill) is to slow. I'm using adopted storage in moto e 2nd and it's great idea.
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@darian_420
I have nst k1, my tests (samsung pro 64gb) are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shi...card-performance-comparison-exfat-vs-t3312982 post #8
I don't use adopted storage - I'm waiting for Nougat.
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Link2sd+ can move obbs to sdcard(external).
@dzpcool
Yours sd card(G.skill) is to slow. I'm using adopted storage in moto e 2nd and it's great idea.
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Have you done speed test on the moto e 2 using adopted storage? In you google drive, I saw 2 test pic 81/62 and 47/28 MB/s, can you tell me which sd card and configuration did you use?
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Have you done speed test on the moto e 2 using adopted storage? In you google drive, I saw 2 test pic 81/62 and 47/28 MB/s, can you tell me which sd card and configuration did you use?
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Look into my post before(here) and names of screens.
Moto e 2nd 28/21 the same card - adopted(mm&nougat, custom roms).
Tests are somewhere in moto thread.
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Look into my post before(here) and names of screens.
Moto e 2nd 28/21 the same card - adopted(mm&nougat, custom roms).
Tests are somewhere in moto thread.
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My bad, didn't check post 8
Whether 47/28 or 28/21 are good, enough for daily use.
I was able to get 20 write with NTFS format. The problem is my LG Phoenix 2 (K371) is just terrible at handling adoptable storage. Considering it is less than half the price than MOTO E 2 (you can even get it $30 with deal), maybe the manufacture doesn't want or pay any effort to support adoptable storage. However, low-end budget phone happen to the one most need extra storage space, cause some of them even only have 8G ROM.
LG is different story, it seem oppose adoptable storage. Even high-end model like G4 doesn't support it in the stock rom.
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...47/28 or 28/21 are good,...The problem is my LG Phoenix 2 (K371) is just terrible...
LG is different story, it seem oppose adoptable storage. Even high-end model like G4 doesn't support it in the stock rom.
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Lg g2 - you can flash custom rom and use faster sd card.
Lg, Samsung, Sony, Asus, Xiaomi, Huawei...blocked adopted storage.
They want you to buy a newer model with much memory.
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Lg g2 - you can flash custom rom and use faster sd card.
Lg, Samsung, Sony, Asus, Xiaomi, Huawei...blocked adopted storage.
They want you to buy a newer model with much memory.
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Does Moto support it in the stock rom? If not, it seems Google is the only left among the named brand.
A budge phone brand BLU supports it. I guess some brands don't do it because they want you to buy more expensive model with bigger storage, while some want to keep the price competitive.
I don't know all brands.
Lenovo Moto, Htc, Nvidia - have adopted storage support with stock. @dzpcool
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I don't know all brands.
Lenovo Moto, Htc, Nvidia - have adopted storage support with stock. @dzpcool
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Thanks for your reply.
Lenovo bought Moto (Their new phone is great, but the market share is not so great), and HTC is a dying company. I feel little to almost no hope seeing adopted storage on major brand phones : (
mortuus82 said:
So how do u move some games data that fill up almost all internal storage to my sdcard? i have no option if i got a game that takes alot of space to even move it ? whats wrong ? the sdcard is visible says 2gb used and 28gb free but i cant move any app or game to sdcard i dont understand ?
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I have the exact same problem. one day I randomly checked and the option was there but usually it isn't..