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So, I've had my sensation for a week, it was nearly perfect. But I wasn't sure that it was the best unit, cause battery was used fairly quick, GPS kinda weak, and a slightly washed out screen. I took the 14 day advantage I had at Walmart, and just today headed out there after work to grab the last unit they had! I called like 5 diff. walmarts but only that one had one unit.
Even the box was in such pristine condition, compared to the one I bought earlier, even though both were new. The first box had a date of 5/27. This new one has 6/3, so I'm hoping the June units might be better. Both Taiwanese. I haven't even opened my new Sensation yet, feel excited all over again
Anyways, to come to the point, how did you all start using you new phone, did you just take it out, turn it on, and use it? Or kept it off, charged it all the way, then use it? The reason I'm asking is cause the first one I had, I kept it off and charged it all the way. During that process, the phone got extremely hot towards the bottom, I mean hot like I've never ever seen in any phone before. And it pretty much stayed that way for atleast 2 hours straight. I'm thinking that I maybe messed up the battery up, cause too much heat can damage them. What do you guys think?
Edit: Another thing on my previous phone: the battery gauge was wacky. I would use if for hours and it would stay at 100. Then suddenly show like 85 or something.
usually I will leave it off and charge it fully before using it. This time I turned it on right away, let it drain then charged it fully while off. I've only had my sensation less than a week so really cant ccomment on battery life. When you first get a phone though battery life will be worse because you play with it tons when you first get it
Charged it before turning on & it never got hot
Yeah, mines seemed like a fluke, I've never had a phone do that before. This time, I'm thinking that I'll prolly turn it on before charging just to be safe.
My first two, I did. This one I used right away and today it's been unplugged for 11 hours and I'm still at 47%
I play with it until it fully dies, then I let it charge all the way; for the batteries sake. It last much longer that way.
I couldn't wait for it to charge completely.
I wasnt even out of the T-Mobile parking lot before I had my sim card in it and was messing with it lol.
Could you please tell us how your new phone is? I'll update my post when I check my box for the date but my battery does heat up and my power button is the slanted one.
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also what panel is it?
EmceeGeek said:
I play with it until it fully dies, then I let it charge all the way; for the batteries sake. It last much longer that way.
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Exactly....that's what most all manufactures recommend. I didn't notice it in the Sensation's manual, but I know I saw it in my G2X's manual.
For the last 5-6 devices I've had, I always run it dead from the box, then let it fully charge to 100%. As far as I can tell that really does help either calibrate the driver or condition the battery. I also do that pretty much every time its convenient.
I've never just charged it straight from the box.
I've always had great great battery life, under heavy use, for every phone I've had using that method.
I really don't know how important it is, but I know I've never had any of the battery issues that it seems many have with various devices.
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Exactly....that's what most all manufactures recommend. I didn't notice it in the Sensation's manual, but I know I saw it in my G2X's manual.
For the last 5-6 devices I've had, I always run it dead from the box, then let it fully charge to 100%. As far as I can tell that really does help either calibrate the driver or condition the battery. I also do that pretty much every time its convenient.
I've never just charged it straight from the box.
I've always had great great battery life, under heavy use, for every phone I've had using that method.
I really don't know how important it is, but I know I've never had any of the battery issues that it seems many have with various devices.
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Great advice, however I wanted to ask you that when you charged it back to 100% the first time, did you keep the phone off all the way? Also, did you perform any kind of a hard reset on it, and if you did, at what point?
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Could you please tell us how your new phone is? I'll update my post when I check my box for the date but my battery does heat up and my power button is the slanted one.
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I will surely report that info as well as panel info tomorrow after 7PM, as its late, and I havent opened the box yet. I was still trying to figure out the best way to start using the phone, as I didnt want to repeat the mistake I made last time.
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Great advice, however I wanted to ask you that when you charged it back to 100% the first time, did you keep the phone off all the way? Also, did you perform any kind of a hard reset on it, and if you did, at what point?
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No, I let it die...plug it back in, turn it on.
Some people do factory resets out of the box....I never have (out of the box)...
I get easily a full day, 14-16 hours, with consistent use. WiFi always on, gps on when needed, tons of web activity, light gaming, 100+ texts, dozen or so calls. That's pretty normal.
The Sensation seems to go from full to 90% in a hurry, but then really levels off. No idea why, but it's undeniable with mine. Also, this phone is by far the best I've ever owned when it comes to idle power consumption. I'll regularly leave it unplugged while asleep and it might go down 5% at most.
That's my experience.....hope it helps.
Hoggles, thx so much for your insight. So after reading quite a few pages on other forums, especially the IPhone ones, I think I'm gonna fire it up and drain it & then charge it fully while its off. Now the only thing to figure out is when to factory reset the phone, as soon as I first turn it on, or after it has fully charged? Also, when fully charged, is it best to unplug it and then start it, or start phone while plugged in, and then remove the power cable once it comes up?
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Hoggles, thx so much for your insight. So after reading quite a few pages on other forums, especially the IPhone ones, I think I'm gonna fire it up and drain it & then charge it fully while its off. Now the only thing to figure out is when to factory reset the phone, as soon as I first turn it on, or after it has fully charged? Also, when fully charged, is it best to unplug it and then start it, or start phone while plugged in, and then remove the power cable once it comes up?
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I really don't think ya have to get that nit picky...as far as when or how to unplug.
Pretty simple and hard to go wrong....
Out of the box....use it til it shuts off on its own
Plug it in....
Turn it on if ya need to receive calls etc...
Let it charge to 100%...
You're Golden
Repeat whenever you have the time...once, twice a month works for me.
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Hoggles, thx so much for your insight. So after reading quite a few pages on other forums, especially the IPhone ones, I think I'm gonna fire it up and drain it & then charge it fully while its off. Now the only thing to figure out is when to factory reset the phone, as soon as I first turn it on, or after it has fully charged? Also, when fully charged, is it best to unplug it and then start it, or start phone while plugged in, and then remove the power cable once it comes up?
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I'm also use it out of the box until its battery drain and warning indication come out. Then I charge my battery.
I facing a weird condition during charging, where its goes up to 80 or 90% fast, but then to reach 100% very slow. It took 3.5 to 4 hours for my phone to reach 100%!!. I already use my phone for 15 days.
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I play with it until it fully dies, then I let it charge all the way; for the batteries sake. It last much longer that way.
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This is the "proper" way to condition a Li-Ion Battery. it's best for the battery life during every day use and into the long term. Ideally you should use it until it get's down to about 2-3% then charge fully, and repeat at least 2-3 more times. Your battery will thank you for it.
I had started to think that this tried and true method was NOT working on my sensation and then today, almost one week precisely after I'd gotten it I saw a huge, noticeable difference in battery life over the first 3-4 days.
Condition your batteries people! You and your phones will thank you for it!
I got the phone at Walmart the first day it came out and used it then charged it all the way.
Phone got very hot and I can not get it to last more than 6hrs on a charge no matter what I try.
(No GPS No WiFi No extra apps......you get the point)
Trying to return the phone to Walmart but they don't have any.
Something is definitely off her but I don't know if it's the phone or the battery.
Hello Everyone,
I have been asked to put together an instruction on how to correctly calibrate
your Sammy Charge battery... so here it goes.
First of all you need to be ROOTED there are plenty of roms and kernels here
for you to pick from so get the package you want Odin or Clockwork whatever you want.
-i will be referring to Clockwork Recovery Mod as 'cwr' from now on-
I am currently running IMNUTS 710 Non-Overclock Kernel and Humble 1.4.2 ROM. Humble ROM comes with a battery calibration app that you might find helpful for this task.
The kernel or rom you have doesnt matter for calibration but you must have the latest cwr witch is bundled with any of IMNUTS' Kernels.
You may have heard of the term 'Bump Charging' this only needs to be done before you calibrate (so you Chargers that are doing this every full charge, you are wasting your time). I will explain what this is if you do not know.
Here are the steps:
1.Turn your phone ON and charge it to 100%
2Turn your phone OFF and leave it plugged in. (you will notice that the battery will begin to
charge again but it will not be at 100% anymore it will show something like 95%.
3.LEt your phone get back to 100% (it will vibrate when it is done)
4.Unplug your phone, wait 30 seconds, and plug it back in.
5.WTH! it is back to 95% again!dont panic... LEt it charge again to 100% (2-5 minutes)
6.Now do it again. (unplug wait 30 seconds, plug in, let charge to 100%)
continue this until it shows 100% after 10-20 seconds on plug in. (it took me 15 times,
although i have seen upwards of 20 times)
- some users are saying that the time does not decrease to 100% while doing step 6, 20 times is good enough as all phones/batteries are not from the same mold-
7.Now boot into cwr (if you dont know how then you shouldnt be here)
8.Go to the advanced menu and 'wipe battery stats'
9.Reboot phone via cwr
(((this is where it will differ from the other posts or whatever)))'
10.Drain your phone to 0% and immediately plug it in. (others will tell you to let it die completely and shut itself off... YOUR PHONE WILL NOT LOG CHARGING INFORMATION IF IT IS OFF!!! ((I suggest you do a little troubleshooting to see when your phone will actually turn off. Mine turns off after being at 0% for a few mins. Your's may shut off at anywhere between 10%-0%. If it does shut off just turn it on again and plug it in)). Basically what u am saying is make sure your phone is ON during charging while doing these steps.
11.Charge to 100% (DO NOT UNPLUG IT WHILE IT IS CHARGING... if you get a call or a txt it is fine to use it a bit (and for clearification on 'proper charging' I contacted Samsung it is OKAY to use phone while charging (my bad)).
12.I did this full charge and full drain, plug in at 0% -ON charging, 4 times.
13.Charge it whenever you want.
The android OS logs 'battery stats' and charging habits based on a small window of use. Following these directions will let your phone lock in enough information to max out your battery life.
With strong 4G signal expect 18-20 hours of light use. If you are in a known 4G deadzone download LTE Switch from the Market, it lets you turn off the 4G radio and run only 3G. I personally turn off mobile data unless i need it and have no syncing actions automated. My best uptime was 41 hours and 12 minutes to 0%. Dont forget that all roms and kernels are different so your results will vary. If you are on your phone all the time... playing games, on the net, making calls you will of course have less time.. with heavy use i can burn 10%-15% an hour easy. Get rid of your 'antivirus' crap, your monitoring apps all that shat... it will only sacrifice your battery and it is unnecessary.
For those wondering about LAGFIX:
AlexDeGruven states-
'RFS is the bastard child of FAT and a Samsung developer who didn't understand how modern filesystems work with NAND storage. It has nothing to do with battery usage. For data access, the longer it takes to access the data, the longer the processor is waiting and running wasted cycles. The faster the data is returned from storage, the less battery gets used.'
So turn it on or leave it off, up to you.
I hope this helps everyone get calibrated.
Let me know if you have any questions.
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Nice. Hopefully this will stop clogging the forums a little bit.
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Why is this in the dev forum?
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Why is this in the dev forum?
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...because everyone asks in the rom threads. Im just trying to be helpful so we don't see the same questions over and over again by those who refuse to actually look for info. This way they don't have to go too far.
Thanks criticalhit. If the mods have a problem with the location of this thread...I'm sure they'll move it. Thanks again for the tutorial.
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Thanks criticalhit. If the mods have a problem with the location of this thread...I'm sure they'll move it. Thanks again for the tutorial.
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I pmd the mod in charge of the charge dev forums already with reasoning why it should stay.. so we shall see.
I <3 Humble 142!
I went to 100% let it die. next day i used it normal and it was "ok". today my phone has been off the charge for 16 hours now and im still at 39%. Display took 80% of my battery so I'm sure i could easily idle for a few days. the whole time i had 4g and gps on. btw im at stock voltages and oc'd to 1.1ghz
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I went to 100% let it die. next day i used it normal and it was "ok". today my phone has been off the charge for 16 hours now and im still at 39%. Display took 80% of my battery so I'm sure i could easily idle for a few days. the whole time i had 4g and gps on. btw im at stock voltages and oc'd to 1.1ghz
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Yeah display burns it up fast. And if you don't have strong 4g 4-5 bars it will constantly 'look' for a better signal where is cycles from 3g to 1x to 4g... eventually someone will write an app or make a system change to combat this.. (I hope). I wish I had the knowledge to do this and make our phones satisfied with low signal strength. :/
I <3 Humble 142!
Well written post... thank you
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Well written post... thank you
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Hey thanks mang! Im going to do a 3g only all day tomorrow to see what kind of life I get... will update on findings (I usually data off completely).
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This is exceptional. Great job. Appreciate it man.
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I am finally getting some decent life
Thanks for writing this and for all the other posts you have spread about your methods, yes I read them.
Today was my best day by far. I was 11hrs and 20 minutes unplugged today when I got home and still had 25% of my battery left. I work in a 4G market, and for the first time today I left 4G off and only had mobile data on a few times. I had 1 hr 30 minutes of cell talking ( thats a lot for me) and had my display on 1hr and 48 minutes. This is on the same ROM and Kernal CritalHits is running (with lagfix enabled).
For those of you that think you can't carry this phone around without a charger, you are wrong (glad I finally beleive this). You just can't have your foot on the Hemi throttle all day and expect to get Prius mileage.
Ya I have at least 4 bars of 4g all over my town. I saw 3g once and it changed back to 4g right away
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Awesome post. I've read a couple other posts on battery calibration. They've been somewhat similar (except for the last part, like you pointed out), but not as clear.
I do have a question though: Are battery stats erased along with data and other stuff when you flash a new rom, for example? I'm just wondering if this is something you should do every time you flash a new rom and require a data/cache reset. I'm assuming so, since you mentioned that each rom's battery level may vary.
Anyway, thanks again!
leenephi said:
Awesome post. I've read a couple other posts on battery calibration. They've been somewhat similar (except for the last part, like you pointed out), but not as clear.
I do have a question though: Are battery stats erased along with data and other stuff when you flash a new rom, for example? I'm just wondering if this is something you should do every time you flash a new rom and require a data/cache reset. I'm assuming so, since you mentioned that each rom's battery level may vary.
Anyway, thanks again!
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yes, every time you wipe data, cache and delvik...recalibrate. Good method. This was the same method posted a year ago or so to help the Dinc get better battery life.
If the battery is properly calibrated shouldn't it make sense to only have to bump charge once?
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This is the right place for this thread. The Charge forum moderator specifically said "*Only ROM Development, Hacks, Mods, Fixes, Reference, and Tutorials go in the Dev Section"
This is clearly a tutorial, and clearly belongs here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074281
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10.Drain your phone to 0% and immediately plug it in. (others will tell you to let it die completely and shut itself off... DO NOT LET IT DIE! YOUR PHONE WILL NOT LOG CHARGING INFORMATION IF IT IS OFF!!!
11.Charge to 100% (DO NOT USE OR UNPLUG IT WHILE IT IS CHARGING... if you get a call or a txt ignore it).
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There's a problem with your process, and it is step 10. Some Charges will shutdown prior to hitting 0% battery level. I've seen my Charge auto-shutdown at 5%, 3%, 2% and 1%.
Also, I don't see the point of letting it drain to zero then charging it back up to 100% without any use. One more thing, you didn't specify whether you wanted the phone off or on during step 11's charge process, but I'll assume you want the device on considering the fact that you mentioned getting calls/texts.
OP, please explain comments about lagfix
What does "lagfix" do? Are you saying that it causes the battery to be used at a faster rate?
I thought lagfix involved making at least some of your on-phone partitions into ext4 rather than Samsung's format.
Thanks for the clear instructions, it includes a detail that makes a lot of sense, except wouldn't the phone shut itself down gracefully when the battery was gone, saving the battery stats?
My phone has been acting really weird the last few day. I had [ROM][MTD]CyanogenMod 9.0.0-rc2 UNOFFICIAL by TeamAcid[R5][Jul-20-2012 installed on my phone. But it would crash all of the time. Afterwards when the phone rebooted the battery would go from 100% to 9%. If I dont boot the phone back up right after a crash and wait a little while. When I boot it up the battery will be around 40-45%. I used [Heimdall][One-Click] The T959V Heimdall One-Click Collection [05/20/2012] earlier today, Just to see if I continued to have the battery problem. I only had the phone crash once while on the stock rom, and the battery did drain about 50% but I also started having a problem where I would lose my data connection all together. Rebooting the phone brought it back, only to lose it again after around 30min to 1hr. It has not crashed for about 3hrs now and I have not lost my data connection either. Anyone have any ideas what might be going on here? I tried deleting the battery stats with the battery at 100% before going back to stock but that did not seem to help at all. I downloaded a batter calibrator from the market place and tried that as well. Used it when the battery was at 100%. None of this has worked. Now that im back on the stock rom its only crashed once, but the battery did still drain. Any ideas? I would really like to go back to CyanogenMod 9 but its not worth it if the phone continuously crashes and kills the battery. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Try Gremlins Remover.
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So you don't waste any more time, "battery calibration" is snake oil, lithium ion batteries don't need "conditioning" (and actually suffer from both high temperatures and deep discharge cycles), but the moon is made of cheese. Ok, at least the first two are true.
As you're having problems with one of the most stable and reliable GB ROMs for this phone, I suspect that you may have one or more of:
Bad battery
Bad user-land applications
Corrupt application data
Corrupt media data (for example, music on your microSD)
Bad phone
Bad luck
A "start over" approach with a complete clean-out either using the above-mentioned one-click, or doing the equivalent by hand (wiping all partitions, flashing stock, starting with a fresh microSD), then seeing how the phone/battery behaves without any apps would be the path I would take. If it passed that, I'd slowly start adding back apps, and only restoring data/preferences where you really need them.
Im doing the gremlin remover right now. I will let you guys know how to goes. Thanks for the advise, this has been driving me crazy.
Tried the gremlin remover last night and played with my phone today. Its still crashing and then when I boot it up back the battery is pretty much dead... I think i have a bad battery. Never had these problems with the phone before. Thanks for the help guys. I guess Ill get a new battery and see if that fixes the problem.
I have this EXACT same problem. I'm on AOKP and the battery with go from having a decent charge and die. Then if I take the batt out, hold the power button for 15 secs and let the phone sit with no batt for 10 minutes or so, the phone will go back to around 50% batt life. After gremlin remover and Bryan's one click back to stock multiple times, I've finally come to the conclusion that I need a new battery.
I ordered a new battery today. I will let you know how it goes.
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Mine does the same thing... doesn't really crash often.. once in a blue moon. But if I reboot. . I get that instant battery drain ...GR didn't fix it.... I just attribute it to ageing battery.
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So I looked I to this issue more. For anyone having this problem, remove the battery and place it on a hard flat surface to see if it has swollen any, if it has then the battery is defective. My battery actually rocks a little. I could actually tell it had swollen before I even put it on my desk.
That is only for seeing whether a cell has busted. It is normal wear and tear. That is kind of like how u lose battery life after hundreds of cycles because it is just how the current li-ion battery technologies work.
I would download the one click and also reflash boot loaders and repartition your device.
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Tried that, even with bootloaders. OP also stated they used gremlin remover as well. As we we're both having the exact same problem, I was giving him a better solution that wasn't the standard "reflash, repartition, etc."
I finally got my new battery in. And all is well now. Thanks everyone for the advice and help
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thats crazy swapping you battery worked. lol, mine does it too. not so much the crashing just a simple reboot and it will be drop down from 70% to 1%. This was doing the same thing with my phone before my charging port got busted. So i had to swap out the guts from my old galaxy s with broken screen. When i put the new internals in i started with bh's one click back to stock and flashed antonx kernal. Then flashed cm9 and it still does it. i will try a new battery as well.
My thought (AFTER being solved)
Well, I don't mean to come off as rude, but come on guys! I've had this problem for a while, and as soon as it happened I knew I needed a new battery. On top of my phone being somewhat "old", the fact we all play around with it so much, and do so many battery pulls most likely does NOT help the matter. At least I screw around with my phone and try out many ROMs...
But I'm glad I have confirmation that a battery swap will do the trick. It sucks that stores don't carry the t959v battery anymore... Guess I'll be ordering online tonight.
hey im a noob here so im sorry if this has been asked before but right now i upgraded my phone to ics and the battery life is horrible and im too cheap to get a battery extender so is there anything i can do to improve it or am i just going to have to deal with it?
Get your phone to 100% battery and then just play whatever you like until it completely dies. Then, plug it in to charge and dont touch it until it gets back up to 100%. That is supposed to increase the battery lasting time by 20%. It only works once...so dont do it 5 times hoping for results. This is supposed to be done when you first get the phone, but if its never been you've never done it, its worth the shot.
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hey im a noob here so im sorry if this has been asked before but right now i upgraded my phone to ics and the battery life is horrible and im too cheap to get a battery extender so is there anything i can do to improve it or am i just going to have to deal with it?
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Let the ROM 'soak' in. It'll get better. You are probably busy messing with it figuring out all the features which is normal and makes the battery seem terrible. But overall it is pretty good.
And the post above is an old wives tale these days. It's funny to read people still recommending it.
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Let the ROM 'soak' in. It'll get better. You are probably busy messing with it figuring out all the features which is normal and makes the battery seem terrible. But overall it is pretty good.
And the post above is an old wives tale these days. It's funny to read people still recommending it.
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Kinda, when you first flash with a factory reset, you don't have a battery stats file. This is another good reason to flash when your battery is 100% charged. When Senior Members here say "soak in", they are saying that the first boot all of the system apk (application packages) are cached to /cache. Doing too much while these apps are being cached screws up the statistics of the battery stats. If I really want good battery life, I totally wipe, and let the phone sit for 10-15 minutes. I leave usb plugged in till it's 100%, then pull the usb and use the phone until it totally dies.
By this time, the day is over and it needs to be charged anyways. I plug it into the charger before bed and let it charge up all the way with nothing running (no wifi, no bt, no background apps running).
After that charge, battery life seems soo much better. ymmv. it would be good to know if that works for you too.
Otherwise, everyone uses their phone differently, and some people install stupid apps that have intensive background services running that eat batteries, then complain about the rom sucking instead of introspecting about how they use their phone.
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Kinda, when you first flash with a factory reset, you don't have a battery stats file. This is another good reason to flash when your battery is 100% charged. When Senior Members here say "soak in", they are saying that the first boot all of the system apk (application packages) are cached to /cache. Doing too much while these apps are being cached screws up the statistics of the battery stats.
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Just to clarify - battery stats file have nothing to do with battery performance and the battery stat file "is reset every time you unplug from power with a relatively full charge (thus why the battery usage UI data resets at that point)." Google Engineer Dianne Hackborn
ahh ok thanks guys ill do what you guys said and see if it helps
you can also install one of the battery saver apps on the market, like juice defender or similar. They will typically help and some can control how often background services are allowed to collect data.
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you can also install one of the battery saver apps on the market, like juice defender or similar. They will typically help and some can control how often background services are allowed to collect data.
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These arent as helpful as they use to be. I have seen and challenged people to run with and without and the added battery life is either very minimal or actually worse with these apps.
Battery saver apps where created when android was very young and had bad management of the battery power. The way it works now it should lower the power to the radios low enough to save battery but not completely shut off the radios. Shutting them off will actually harm battery life because it takes so much more power to turn them on and off repeatedly then to let them idle.
no i think it was more designed for froyo and gb because if you try those battery savers in froyo or gb you can see it works and battery last long but if you test it in ics or jb (i have test juice defender with jb in the sgs3) and what i can see its that sometimes it lags (not always just when you like two or three apps open which for me in the sgs3 was weird) and data sometimes hangs i mean it doesn't load pages
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Download Gemini from the play store and manage the autorun for apps. That's what I do and it saves quite a bit of battery
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no i think it was more designed for froyo and gb because if you try those battery savers in froyo or gb you can see it works and battery last long but if you test it in ics or jb (i have test juice defender with jb in the sgs3) and what i can see its that sometimes it lags (not always just when you like two or three apps open which for me in the sgs3 was weird) and data sometimes hangs i mean it doesn't load pages
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Ill agree with you on froyo but gingerbread towards the end was much better.
The biggest thing is people dont realize how much power is used to start and stop things. Letting them idle will use battery but not nearly as much if you start and stop many times a day. Now at night if you want to turn off those things then yeah go for it. But if you are a frequent phone checker then starting and stopping them everytime will chew through the battery.
A good example is this, its summertime go outside and look at your electric meter when the ac first turns on. It will spin reeal fast for a minute or so while the system gets everything going then it will slow down. This same thing applies to your phone and its radios. Each time you shut it off it has to go through a process so you dont get corrupted data. And when you turn it on it has to use a lot of battery to make sure things dont get messed up and get to the proper operating form.
So any app that shuts off the radios manually and such will end up costing you battery if you are a power user.
If you can follow the steps exactly as i wrote them, then install the team FAH-Q kernel found in the dev section...
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If you can follow the steps exactly as i wrote them, then install the team FAH-Q kernel found in the dev section...
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I put FAH-Q kernal on AOKP and it seemed to help a bit. I was using systempanel and it said facebook was sucking cpu at night while the phone was resting... so i took off facebook for the moment to see if any other apps/processes could be causing a drain.
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I spend 15-20 min in the morning going through stuff on my phone. Then I will listen to music in the car on my way to work 35 min. My phone will be at 80% by the time i walk in to work. I check things during the work day once and a while and by 2pm I will be around 40%. leaving work I will have 35-30% .... ok i'll just quit now and say running 12hrs i will have about 15% left. I think I am an average phone user. not sure how much everyone else uses theirs.
justiz33 said:
I put FAH-Q kernal on AOKP and it seemed to help a bit. I was using systempanel and it said facebook was sucking cpu at night while the phone was resting... so i took off facebook for the moment to see if any other apps/processes could be causing a drain.
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I spend 15-20 min in the morning going through stuff on my phone. Then I will listen to music in the car on my way to work 35 min. My phone will be at 80% by the time i walk in to work. I check things during the work day once and a while and by 2pm I will be around 40%. leaving work I will have 35-30% .... ok i'll just quit now and say running 12hrs i will have about 15% left. I think I am an average phone user. not sure how much everyone else uses theirs.
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Music soaks up a lot of battery as well as display, data, and sync. You can try turning off sync and data when you don't need them. But it sounds like you are doing better. I am still concerned with what else you have running in the background though... however, 12-16 hours isn't bad at all...
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.... If I really want good battery life, I totally wipe, and let the phone sit for 10-15 minutes. I leave usb plugged in till it's 100%, then pull the usb and use the phone until it totally dies.
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What do you mean by totally wipe? do you mean go into recovery to wipe data, cache, and davlik cache? then restore after the battery is fully charged?
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What do you mean by totally wipe? do you mean go into recovery to wipe data, cache, and davlik cache? then restore after the battery is fully charged?
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Yes, as well as /system/ and at least .android_secure on your microSD
I would recommend against fully discharging your battery as a matter of course. While this might have been useful in the days of NiCads, deep discharges and heat are the Kryptonite of LiIon batteries.
Ive had my htc one x for maybe 5-6 months which is almost the longest ive ever been on one phone and i love(d) it, but its always been doing something very strange and aggravating that seems to be getting worse. Battery drain has always been a problem for me with this phone but ehh i can deal with it, but once my phone gets down to about 14% which is does often because of the draining it starts acting real funny with its power and sometimes goes from 14 down to 5 in an instant literally out of no where and as soon as i plug up itll go right back to 13, or itll shut down entirely at 14% but i can just cut it back on, or itll shut down in the middle of me doing something and i have to charge it for about 5-10 minutes before itll even come back on. The latter happened last night btw. No matter what combination of roms/kernels i try this always seems to be a problem. I really cant deal with this anymore and its to the point where i wanna throw my phone into a wall and just buy another one, which im seriously thinking about doing at this point. If such thing has happened to anyone before or you have insight on this can you please help before i just give up hope completely.
What you have described is normal for our device. Remember that the battery percentage is just an estimate of your actual charge. In addition, you find your phone shutting off around the lower percentages as a result of the device attempting to prevent damage to the battery. That is what the HOXl was designed to do.
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KungFuCracka94 said:
What you have described is normal for our device. Remember that the battery percentage is just an estimate of your actual charge. In addition, you find your phone shutting off around the lower percentages as a result of the device attempting to prevent damage to the battery. That is what the HOXl was designed to do.
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Last night when it did it, as it has before, i was still on 21%.... thats not normal. And this isnt my first android nor first htc, never happened before. Even on my aunts old one s it didnt happen
Do you allow full charges after these "forced shutdowns" occur? This should cause your battery to recalibrate.
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NexusS4gFreak said:
Last night when it did it, as it has before, i was still on 21%.... thats not normal. And this isnt my first android nor first htc, never happened before. Even on my aunts old one s it didnt happen
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The battery behavior on this phone has been interesting. I have the battery last over two weeks on airplane mode and I've had the battery last just a couple of hours with just a stock setup. There are so many factors that play into this. I work in an area with very little to no signal reception and my battery life goes crazy and the phone can get really hot while I'm there so I've seen the best and worst.
What I do to counteract this bad behavior:
1. Charge prior to 40% (I've had the phone go from 40% to zero instantly before)
2. Consider your signal reception and either try out different radios or use airplane mode to reduce erratic battery drain
3. Install a 3rd party app like batterycalibration (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en) and use that when things get hairy (I calibrate every two weeks or so and that does the trick for me.
My phone has been like this since I pulled it out of the box. With a little management, it is just fine. You have seen it before but I'll say it again, you have to get through a few charge cycles when flashing a new Rom to get back to normal.
Hope this helps. It works for me and I work in a cell phone reception hell.
NexusS4gFreak said:
Ive had my htc one x for maybe 5-6 months which is almost the longest ive ever been on one phone and i love(d) it, but its always been doing something very strange and aggravating that seems to be getting worse. Battery drain has always been a problem for me with this phone but ehh i can deal with it, but once my phone gets down to about 14% which is does often because of the draining it starts acting real funny with its power and sometimes goes from 14 down to 5 in an instant literally out of no where and as soon as i plug up itll go right back to 13, or itll shut down entirely at 14% but i can just cut it back on, or itll shut down in the middle of me doing something and i have to charge it for about 5-10 minutes before itll even come back on. The latter happened last night btw. No matter what combination of roms/kernels i try this always seems to be a problem. I really cant deal with this anymore and its to the point where i wanna throw my phone into a wall and just buy another one, which im seriously thinking about doing at this point. If such thing has happened to anyone before or you have insight on this can you please help before i just give up hope completely.
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When a new ROM or kernel is flashed you need to let battery settle for at least 48hrs before you get super worried about battery. If possible during that time let device fully discharge then charge up to 100. Please use a battery monitoring app and then see what's causing the issues. With proper config hoxl will get good battery life. There is always the chance its hardware issue but doubtful as battery prolly would of completely failed by now. Also check your screen brightness settings. Hope this helps
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Madcat8686 said:
The battery behavior on this phone has been interesting. I have the battery last over two weeks on airplane mode and I've had the battery last just a couple of hours with just a stock setup. There are so many factors that play into this. I work in an area with very little to no signal reception and my battery life goes crazy and the phone can get really hot while I'm there so I've seen the best and worst.
What I do to counteract this bad behavior:
1. Charge prior to 40% (I've had the phone go from 40% to zero instantly before)
2. Consider your signal reception and either try out different radios or use airplane mode to reduce erratic battery drain
3. Install a 3rd party app like batterycalibration (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en) and use that when things get hairy (I calibrate every two weeks or so and that does the trick for me.
My phone has been like this since I pulled it out of the box. With a little management, it is just fine. You have seen it before but I'll say it again, you have to get through a few charge cycles when flashing a new Rom to get back to normal.
Hope this helps. It works for me and I work in a cell phone reception hell.
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Ive done all three methods youve mentioned before and still same thing. Also im on 3/4 bars with lte 90% of the time so no reception issues here. And with my current setup ive been running it for about 2 weeks.
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When a new ROM or kernel is flashed you need to let battery settle for at least 48hrs before you get super worried about battery. If possible during that time let device fully discharge then charge up to 100. Please use a battery monitoring app and then see what's causing the issues. With proper config hoxl will get good battery life. There is always the chance its hardware issue but doubtful as battery prolly would of completely failed by now. Also check your screen brightness settings. Hope this helps
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Ive always let the rom settle in and i constantly maintain the brightness on around mid level (mirror screen protector so i cant go too low) but its not just one rom or a few, its with every rom i flash ad that consists of most roms available for this device
The battery behaviour you described is completely normal if you understand how a battery of this type works, and if you understand how the software (especially the display of battery percentage) works in conjunction with it.
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The battery behaviour you described is completely normal if you understand how a battery of this type works, and if you understand how the software (especially the display of battery percentage) works in conjunction with it.
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So youre telling me having the phone get to 22% and instantly drop to zero and power down is normal? Makes no sense at all. Also i cant get it to charge too 100% for anything. So if theres no fix to this, anybody want a one x with a troublesome battery?
What I'm saying is the battery percentage displayed by the software is never exact, it's only an estimate based on the voltage level of your battery. Your battery sounds like its long term life (capacity) has been decreased over time and possibly bad treatment (allowing the device to discharge too much too many times).
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So youre telling me having the phone get to 22% and instantly drop to zero and power down is normal? Makes no sense at all.
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Depends on what you define as "normal". Such behavior is certainly not unheard of (although you particular collection of symptoms may point to a more serious issue, which I'll get to later). Couple things you have to remember: the battery meter is far from accurate. Being off by 10% or more is not unusual (completely normal). So jumping from 5 to 13% as you mentioned is not out of the question. The battery voltage is not actually jumping around, just the % battery number that the phone is assigning to various voltage readings. Reading errors happen, and if a jump is noticed, its just the meter correcting itself.
Which brings us to the other point that should be kept in mind: the battery % is not a "real" measurement. Its just a number assigned to various voltages to give the average person a sense of how much battery is left. Its a completely fabricated and artificial measure that just gives some relative sense of when a user should charge their battery. Phone makers just decided to use a system that average people would understand, like the fuel gauge on a car. Zero doesn't really mean zero (or anywhere close), but reporting in voltages would make no sense for most folks. Also, as we all well know, just because (for example) it took you 12 hours to drain the phone to 50%, does not necessarily mean the phone will last another 12 hours to drain the remaining 50%. It all depends on what you are doing with the phone during that time. Which leaves the question: What does the % battery really mean? Really, not a heck of a lot.
On the other hand, the battery failing to charge to 100% is troublesome, as is the apparent frequency of the meter drops and the fact that the issue remains after various ROM flashes. Leads me to believe there may be some hardware issue going on.
The short answer: IMO while some of the individual symptoms are not unusual, the seeming frequency (you haven't exactly quantified this, but it seems relative frequent just based on your descriptions) may suggest a larger issue, but its not certain.
Thanks it explained a lot but it happened again today, went to the store with ~36% on the meter and walked out, haven't touched it at all, phone was completely dead. Tried to charge and it went to 6% and stopped charging, all signs showed it was charging but it was stuck on 6. Then it started climbing again and reached about 16% and actually started losing charge while on the charger. Switched over to my portable battery charger i just got and it held the charge at about 5% for ~30 minutes, which is what it was when i plugged it in and started to charge, then it stopped againand during the whole process the phone was getting very hot. Yea im getting a new phone :/