Dear XDA people,
Im currently working with Max's V4 RC2 kernel in combination with Cromi-X 4.6.9 (still need to update to the latest), which gives me a pretty smooth working tablet.
Now, im running the cpu at 1900mhz, 1225mV (still testing if i can go lower), and I can adjust speed and voltage nicely with Trickster Mod.
But, I would wan't to crank up the gpu speed (which is currently 666mhz I think?) and have the same "options/settings" available to do so. For example, a rom limitation of 750/800mhz on the gpu, with a variation of voltages to choose from. This way I can get as much gpu power as possible, since i find gaming on the tf700 pretty disappointing in terms of performance (of course a lot of games are not optimized for tegra).
Do you guys know what would be the best possible solution to overclock/adjust the gpu speed+voltage?
Thanks!
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tijsva said:
Dear XDA people,
Im currently working with Max's V4 RC2 kernel in combination with Cromi-X 4.6.9 (still need to update to the latest), which gives me a pretty smooth working tablet.
Now, im running the cpu at 1900mhz, 1225mV (still testing if i can go lower), and I can adjust speed and voltage nicely with Trickster Mod.
But, I would wan't to crank up the gpu speed (which is currently 666mhz I think?) and have the same "options/settings" available to do so. For example, a rom limitation of 750/800mhz on the gpu, with a variation of voltages to choose from. This way I can get as much gpu power as possible, since i find gaming on the tf700 pretty disappointing in terms of performance (of course a lot of games are not optimized for tegra).
Do you guys know what would be the best possible solution to overclock/adjust the gpu speed+voltage?
Thanks!
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I think 666mhz GPU setting is probably reserved for Satans minions. At the moment the only way to control GPU speed is by adjusting the voltage. This is easiest using hunds kernel (3.1 if you have problems with 3.2) and his app. Together, you can crank the GPU all the way up to 775MHz and fry some eggs on the back of your TF700 and waiting for it to go into nuclear meltdown.
I know the gpu runs hot, thats why I want to see what speeds can be achieved with limited voltage. So you‘re saying the only way to change gpu speed is by setting a higher voltage for it? Why is that exactly?
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You've posted this in the wrong forum, so it will be deleted, in the mean time there is really no reason to use 1900mhz even less so while gaming. 1700mhz at max (it can go higher but you wont see much change/ if at all in benchmarks/ games but u'll see the difference in battery life)
As for gpu i run 750 mhz but again the difference between 650 - 750 mhz is hardly noticeable, gaming performance isn't great on the tf700, the tf300t doesn't look as good but its noticeably smoother with 3d
Moral of the story the tegra 3 gpu isn't powerful enough for 1920x1200 the tegra 4 wont be much better, the tegra 5 is the interesting one
tijsva said:
So you‘re saying the only way to change gpu speed is by setting a higher voltage for it?
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Yes, that's what I'm saying. Unless you want to learn to create kernels and do all the magical voodoo these wizards do to bring us OC kernels!
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Why is that exactly?
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I have no idea, been wondering that myself. I even posted the question somewhere about a week ago, but no one enlightened me. I really reccomend using hunds kernel and app though. There is a "gaming" option in his app that works very well, good speed without the ominous red glow of molten metal on your TF700's back panel.
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Yes, that's what I'm saying. Unless you want to learn to create kernels and do all the magical voodoo these wizards do to bring us OC kernels!
I have no idea, been wondering that myself. I even posted the question somewhere about a week ago, but no one enlightened me. I really recommend using hunds kernel and app though. There is a "gaming" option in his app that works very well, good speed without the ominous red glow of molten metal on your TF700's back panel.
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Are you saying increasing gpu voltage will subsequently increase gpu frequency? (i have no idea how it works, ive never bothered to look into it but now im interested) _that or Hunds will know but im guessing if thats the case freq and voltage must be linked in a voltage table but i would have thought freq could be changed independently to voltage
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You've posted this in the wrong forum, so it will be deleted, in the mean time there is really no reason to use 1900mhz even less so while gaming. 1700mhz at max (it can go higher but you wont see much change/ if at all in benchmarks/ games but u'll see the difference in battery life)
As for gpu i run 750 mhz but again the difference between 650 - 750 mhz is hardly noticeable, gaming performance isn't great on the tf700, the tf300t doesn't look as good but its noticeably smoother with 3d
Moral of the story the tegra 3 gpu isn't powerful enough for 1920x1200 the tegra 4 wont be much better, the tegra 5 is the interesting one
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I know the tf700 isnt much of a gaming tablet unfortunately, but then again, why not setting it up so that it runs games as smooth as the hardware will allow ? Every small improvement is an improvement if you ask me.
For 750mhz gpu, what kernel are you using?
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I'm using hundsbuahs latest kernel, the problem with tegra CPUs is thermal throttling, it starts around 72c on a lot of devices (not sure about the tf700) at 1900 you could find worse gaming performance than a lower cpu / GPU clock speed. Its completely up to you, hundsbuahs kernels give users a lot of flexibility as they can push the devices to the limit, I like _that's kernels personally they suited to my usage (what ever that means)
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OK guys. After much searching i've just become confused as to which is the best overclock app/ROM for the HTC sensation z710e. I used SetCPU but it couldn't actually take my processors above 1.188GHZ and I tried the sense-o-maniac ROM and also the android revolution 6.0.3 ROM, both of which say the processors are overclocked to 1.5GHZ but there is absolutely no difference to me, no they are not slower, and I just want a clear straight up ROM or app that OVERclocks.
Thanks,
Sensation lover
I under clocked my cpu to 1 ghz and I see no difference in speed.... From 1.2 to 1.5 its 20% increase in cpu speed.... Speed of the phone doesn't depend on cpu alone... So thats around 7-10% increase in speed overall (because there is gpu, ROM, sd card, memory)... And thats maybe... Do you really think you can see 7% in speed? Try some synthetic cpu benchmark with 1.2 and 1.5 and only then will you see....
This is my five cents ;-)
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Well the app that controls the CPU clocking is limited in what it can do by the Kernel you're running.
If you're Kernel only supports 1.18 Ghz, Set CPU can't do anything about it.
So you need a Kernel that supports overclocking. The Kernel also controls what kind of governors who can put on the CPU (Conservative, performance, battery saving, etc...)
As far as the controller apps go though, I like the ones that can set the screen off speeds at a different rate than the screen on speeds. That makes sure I don't drain battery at alarming rates when the phone is in my pocket because a rogue app decided it wanted to get funky.
As Skipjacks mentioned, the overclocking speed is due to the kernel you have flashed.
If you are unsure on which kernel to use,
Always use the kernels suggested by the ROM developer.
Of course, you could try various Kernels but do keep in mind that not all ROM's support different kernels.
Normally the current roms has CPU clocking apps built into it,
one widely used is the Daemon control. It usually comes with an app that you can control the overclocking speed.
The current app i'm using, I use System Tuner Pro (yes I support app developers)
It enables me to force cpu2 online, which ultimately makes my phone faster.
Hey guys,
I noticed that there was some lag when i was playing for example Riptide or Shadowgun..then I installed System Panel to monitor my cpu clock speed while i'm playing shadowgun and this is what it showed:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/43585032/2012-04-11_22-52-02.png
This processor runs barely half the speed of what its capable of. this is causing fps drops..
Does anyone have an idea of whats going on there? Are you suffering from the same problem?
Edit:
SuperPi seems to stress out the dual core properly:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/43585032/2012-04-11_23-46-52.png
Why don't the games? Is this why the games aren't optimized yet or is this a system-issue?
greets,
ossy1337
Aren't those optimized for the tegra 2/3 or are they readily available apps?
Yes they're tegra optimized but they ran flawlessly on my Galaxy S2..
Hope the games will be optimized in the next few days/weeks
this is a bug in htc kernel .... and we wait for someone to fix it like in HTC Sensation
w1000i said:
this is a bug in htc kernel .... and we wait for someone to fix it like in HTC Sensation
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I think it has more to do with ICS.. the Galaxy Nexus only runs at half clockspeed most of the time as well. Hell when I had mine it ran at the lowest clockspeed the majority of the time, and only when playing N64 could I bump it up to 700mhz. But hey if it's not lagging who cares (in the case of the Nexus)
I installed setcpu and decreased the up threshold to 40% ..before it was on 90% which means that the cpu only clocked up at 90% cpu load.. now it does at 40%. this solved my problem
+1 sounds like the best solution. Battery life may be sacrificed but hey, 90% is pretty ridiculous
If you weren't using tegra based games use shadowgun and riptide. Used the playstore ones you would get no frames drops. Mostly likely chainfire 3d developer would need an one s as it a vastly different from s3 processors. I personally have both on a SamsungGalaxySII with s3 processors with no frame drops. GPU configuration might not play nice with Krait.
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hi all,
i want to root and overclock my TF300T
for the overclocking:
-Can i use setcpu ? What other tool is good for OC ?
- Do i need a Costum ROM for overclocking to 1.5Ghz (MAX!)
-Will the performance be a lot better ? or just better ? or no diffrence ?
-What is the highest possible OC ?
Thank you
If you are on ICS you can over clock to 1.5 no problem. I don't know about Setcpu on ICS, but I do know EzOverclock works.
If you upgraded to Jellybean, I don't know of anyway to overclock as of yet. EzOverclock won't work on Jellybean and reportedly causes boot loops. I tried setcpu on my Jellybean Tf300 and found the CPU to be maxed at 1.3.
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danomat1073 said:
If you are on ICS you can over clock to 1.5 no problem. I don't know about Setcpu on ICS, but I do know EzOverclock works.
If you upgraded to Jellybean, I don't know of anyway to overclock as of yet. EzOverclock won't work on Jellybean and reportedly causes boot loops. I tried setcpu on my Jellybean Tf300 and found the CPU to be maxed at 1.3.
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ok thank you, can i look somewhere to find out when EzOverclock is compatible with JB ?
Thank you
farmtool33 said:
-Will the performance be a lot better ? or just better ? or no diffrence ?
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It really depends on how you use the tablet, and where your bottleneck is. My feel is that I/O is the biggest bottleneck on the ASUS pads and the effects are felt across the board. I believe ASUS is working on a fix, though. Fingers crossed.
I/O notwithstanding, day-to-day tasks like email and web browsing don't need a 1 Ghz. Even video playback won't be affected by the difference between 1.2 Ghz (the ASUS performance mode) and 1.5 Ghz (typical max OC). Rendering graphics, I'm not sure how much is offloaded to the GPU, so games or graphic heavy applications may be where you'll see the most gains.
EZoverclock don't work on JB it will keeps restarting your tablet when EZoverclock starts.
And other apps work but can only be set to 1.3 so no overclock on JB with this kernel.
I think in graphically intense applications, such as games, would offer the most notable difference even with gpu offloading since not all instructions are graphics related. That being said just know that battery life will take a hit.
Remember...... as of now EzOverclock will not work in Jellybean.....
Here is a link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526311
[APP] - EZOverClock to 1.6 ghz
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does anyone know if setting the CPU SPEED to 1.5 GHz is dangerous while the SENSATION XL has the same chipset as the desire s has (Qualcomm Snapdragon MS8255) and the SENSATION XL's CPU speed is set to 1.5GHz .
sensation has msm8260 (dual core 1.2-1.5 GHz and adreno 220)
Sensation XL indeed has MSM8255.
Just like in PCs, chipsets in phones are binned not only by their type, but also by their target frequency. You don't go overclocking Core2Duo 1.8 GHz to 2.4 GHz because it's "the same CPU", right? Because it isn't the same CPU. The same applies here.
אז זה מסוכן או לא ?
English, please.
Answer - would you run the CPU on your computer at 1.5x the speed it was made to run, because there's CPU with the same name (i3/i5/i7/whatever) that runs at 1.5x the speed?
The same answer applies to your phone.
I expect people to be able to make minimal logic work with their own brains rather than just answering "yes/no". I think that this way people actually understand more than what they've asked for.
i guessed that was the answer but just wanted to be sure...
thanks anyway !
msm8255 should run stable on 1.5GHz (if stock freq is lower)
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msm8255 should run stable on 1.5GHz (if stock freq is lower)
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No it won't. It depends on the specific part, and few parts run stock 1.5 GHz without stability issues surfacing / burning out very fast (if overvolted).
If you really want - you can try it on T-Mobile G2, that has MSM8255 of the earliest bin, with stock at 800MHz. Good luck, don't forget to write how did you like a phone as a toaster.
I suggest refraining from bad advice, especially when it's in the forum and it's not your phone you're talking about. You can burn your phones as much as you like, but don't go around suggesting it to others. Just let me understand something: you have stock non-rooted ICS and have no idea about such basics as which guide to use to downgrade, but you allow yourself posting about chipset frequencies?
so which speed can i overclock to that shouldn't turn my device into a toaster ?
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so which speed can i overclock to that shouldn't turn my device into a toaster ?
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1.2 runs most things with no lag.
Sometimes you're the windshield; sometimes you're the bug.
- Mark Knopfler.
The point is each chip is different even if the same model
What works for me on my device won't necessarily work for you
So test and see if your brave enough, but be aware of the consequences
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I overclock my ds to1.5 every time I play games and it doesn't even get warm. So I think it's pretty harmless.
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Hey XDA,
Here is my quadrant results after recently flashing the Jelly Bean Hydro 7 ROM by seanzscreams:
http://i.imgur.com/woI3vdD.jpg
Also, I did install a few games, which might affect the result. However, are our devices really this lacking in comparison to the HTC One X, or am I just doing something wrong here? The kernal that is currently running is maxed at 1300 Mhz, and I also "supercharged" the device using V6 Supercharger by zepplinrox (I used the 1000HP setting). I'm aware that I can overclock my device a bit higher by flashing a new kernal, but will 300-400 Mhz really make a difference of 1000+ in Quadrant? I'm a heavy gamer, ranging from emulators to heavy games like Modern Combat and Dead Trigger, so performance is very important to me. Also, this benchmark was taken using "Performance Mode."
Basically what I'm asking here is this: What are you guys' Quadrant results, and if they are insanely higher than mine, what do you use to achieve it?
Thanks for the help in advance
Vonologic said:
Hey XDA,
Here is my quadrant results after recently flashing the Jelly Bean Hydro 7 ROM by seanzscreams:
http://i.imgur.com/woI3vdD.jpg
Also, I did install a few games, which might affect the result. However, are our devices really this lacking in comparison to the HTC One X, or am I just doing something wrong here? The kernal that is currently running is maxed at 1300 Mhz, and I also "supercharged" the device using V6 Supercharger by zepplinrox (I used the 1000HP setting). I'm aware that I can overclock my device a bit higher by flashing a new kernal, but will 300-400 Mhz really make a difference of 1000+ in Quadrant? I'm a heavy gamer, ranging from emulators to heavy games like Modern Combat and Dead Trigger, so performance is very important to me. Also, this benchmark was taken using "Performance Mode."
Basically what I'm asking here is this: What are you guys' Quadrant results, and if they are insanely higher than mine, what do you use to achieve it?
Thanks for the help in advance
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Attached are my results. Mine are insanely better than the HTC One X. Currently i'm on Hydro 6.1 (havent had the time to upgrade), running Clemsyns 1.8ghz OC kernel and I am in Performance Mode while running the test. I have no issues running any games, according to the benchmark I am doing 58-62fps. You should do what I've done if you're looking for good performance.
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Attached are my results. Mine are insanely better than the HTC One X. Currently i'm on Hydro 6.1 (havent had the time to upgrade), running Clemsyns 1.8ghz OC kernel and I am in Performance Mode while running the test. I have no issues running any games, according to the benchmark I am doing 58-62fps. You should do what I've done if you're looking for good performance.
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Thanks a lot for the response, much appreciated.
EDIT: What governer do you use btw and your setcpu min/max?
Vonologic said:
Thanks a lot for the response, much appreciated.
EDIT: What governer do you use btw and your setcpu min/max?
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I use pegasus and sio for best performance on unter's kernel.
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I use pegasus and sio for best performance on unter's kernel.
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Pegasus, as in PegasusQ? Isn't that samsung exclusive?
Vonologic said:
Thanks a lot for the response, much appreciated.
EDIT: What governer do you use btw and your setcpu min/max?
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Setcpu interactive min=760mhz max=1.8ghz
here's mine with clean ROM running tf700 kernel.
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Here with hydro 7 unter's kernel pegasusq sio
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