I want to get rid of the bloatware. That's all. But this is my phone, and I don't want to brick it.
I've pretty thoroughly read or listened to these over the course of several days, so I think I have a handle on at least some of this:
http://gizmodo.com/5961138/why-would-you-root-stock-android
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...om-roots-android-xda-developer-tv/#more-65989
http://lifehacker.com/5806135/the-10-best-android-apps-that-make-rooting-your-phone-worth-the-hassle
http://lifehacker.com/5789397/the-always-up+to+date-guide-to-rooting-any-android-phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V/Rooting
http://androidforums.com/galaxy-s-4...-root-samsung-galaxy-s-4g-basic-tutorial.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V/Rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 (the SuperOneClick thread)
I've also read and discarded info from some other sites because I don't know who they are and don't trust them as much as I do the folks here.
It appears that SuperOneClick would be the easiest method, so I was going to follow the basic tutorial here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V/Rooting. This is a really simple list of things to do that I know I can handle, but I still have questions.
I downloaded SuperOneClick 2.2 from the XDA-Dev thread. The newer version is supposed to be on his blog, but it links to a file share service that says there's no file there. Is the version I got going to be OK? Do I need the newest? Any idea where to get it? Or should I be using an older version for some reason?
Both the tutorial on Androidforums.com and the page here for SuperOneClick call for drivers for Windows (I will be working Win7-64) but the links in the tutorial are dead. Do I actually need this driver? The XDA wiki says nothing about drivers, but SuperOneClick does. If I do need it, where can I get it?
The XDA wiki recommends getting BusyBox. I checked the Play store, and there are 8 apps called BusyBox by 4 different authors. Which one?
Is there anything else I should know or consider that's not in the wiki?
Any and all guidance will be much appreciated.
Thanks.
NanaSarah said:
I want to get rid of the bloatware. That's all. But this is my phone, and I don't want to brick it.
I've pretty thoroughly read or listened to these over the course of several days, so I think I have a handle on at least some of this:
http://gizmodo.com/5961138/why-would-you-root-stock-android
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...om-roots-android-xda-developer-tv/#more-65989
http://lifehacker.com/5806135/the-10-best-android-apps-that-make-rooting-your-phone-worth-the-hassle
http://lifehacker.com/5789397/the-always-up+to+date-guide-to-rooting-any-android-phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V/Rooting
http://androidforums.com/galaxy-s-4...-root-samsung-galaxy-s-4g-basic-tutorial.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V/Rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 (the SuperOneClick thread)
I've also read and discarded info from some other sites because I don't know who they are and don't trust them as much as I do the folks here.
It appears that SuperOneClick would be the easiest method, so I was going to follow the basic tutorial here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V/Rooting. This is a really simple list of things to do that I know I can handle, but I still have questions.
I downloaded SuperOneClick 2.2 from the XDA-Dev thread. The newer version is supposed to be on his blog, but it links to a file share service that says there's no file there. Is the version I got going to be OK? Do I need the newest? Any idea where to get it? Or should I be using an older version for some reason?
Both the tutorial on Androidforums.com and the page here for SuperOneClick call for drivers for Windows (I will be working Win7-64) but the links in the tutorial are dead. Do I actually need this driver? The XDA wiki says nothing about drivers, but SuperOneClick does. If I do need it, where can I get it?
The XDA wiki recommends getting BusyBox. I checked the Play store, and there are 8 apps called BusyBox by 4 different authors. Which one?
Is there anything else I should know or consider that's not in the wiki?
Any and all guidance will be much appreciated.
Thanks.
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SuperOneClick just happens to package the zerg exploit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375517
But that path will not lead you to less bloat. You'll root your phone and will either have to remove bloat manually or use one of the fancy bloat removal tools in these forums.
Or just do what I do almost every day. Use heimdall to flash a kernel and rooted rom.
Unless you have the wrong device (always check the model number behind the battery), it's very hard to brick this phone with our oneclicks.
bhundven said:
SuperOneClick just happens to package the zerg exploit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375517
But that path will not lead you to less bloat. You'll root your phone and will either have to remove bloat manually or use one of the fancy bloat removal tools in these forums.
Or just do what I do almost every day. Use heimdall to flash a kernel and rooted rom.
Unless you have the wrong device (always check the model number behind the battery), it's very hard to brick this phone with our oneclicks.
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From what I read, yes, SuperOneClick has the Zerg exploit, but that's not supposed to be bad. Is it? What I read led me to believe that after rooting the phone with SuperOneClick I could install TitaniumBackup which can get rid of the bloatware for me.
Flashing a new kernel and rooted ROM every day sounds much scarier and like more work to me than running something once, getting an app to get rid of my bloatware. Maybe I don't have enough info yet?
Double-checked model behind battery. Good thought. Thanks. Good to know this model is hard to brick.
Umm. "with out oneclicks"? Who's "our" and what/where are oneclics? I need links, please, or more info for improved searches.
Thanks
NanaSarah said:
From what I read, yes, SuperOneClick has the Zerg exploit, but that's not supposed to be bad. Is it? What I read led me to believe that after rooting the phone with SuperOneClick I could install TitaniumBackup which can get rid of the bloatware for me.
Flashing a new kernel and rooted ROM every day sounds much scarier and like more work to me than running something once, getting an app to get rid of my bloatware. Maybe I don't have enough info yet?
Double-checked model behind battery. Good thought. Thanks. Good to know this model is hard to brick.
Umm. "with out oneclicks"? Who's "our" and what/where are oneclics? I need links, please, or more info for improved searches.
Thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2376048
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1470716
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358498
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19601810&postcount=2
NanaSarah said:
From what I read, yes, SuperOneClick has the Zerg exploit, but that's not supposed to be bad. Is it?
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It's just as dangerous as using a oneclick.
NanaSarah said:
What I read led me to believe that after rooting the phone with SuperOneClick I could install TitaniumBackup which can get rid of the bloatware for me.
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Sure, there are also specific tools like @FBis251's debloater that will get rid of tmobile specific stuff. But flashing a rom without the bloat is so much easier.
NanaSarah said:
Flashing a new kernel and rooted ROM every day sounds much scarier and like more work to me than running something once, getting an app to get rid of my bloatware. Maybe I don't have enough info yet?
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My point was that it is that safe. If I can do it every day (because I'm actively deving on multiple versions), then you can do it once or twice with the same ratio of success.
which ever route you take, you have to connect your device to your computer with all the right software/drivers setup and configured.
Make sure you don't use front panel usb on tower computers. If you have a problem on one computer, try a different computer. Cables go bad, try different cables. Check for pocket lint in the usb port of the phone, yadda yadda...
OK. Thanks. Going back and reading more now.
Back later after homework is done.
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UPDATE:
The SuperOneClick rooting method outlined in this thread currently only works for Android 2.2. It does not work with Gingerbread 2.3.3.
To root 2.3.3 -
1) Install CWM (ClockworkMod Recovery): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
2) Flash rooted ROM of your choice. Here is a stock rooted 2.3.3 ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179748
Here's a brief guide on how to root the T-Mobile G2x. This assumes that you already have adb installed. If you do not, a quick search will point you in the right direction
Note: I take no credit for rooting the G2x. I am not the developer of SuperOneClick, and this is a simplified version of a guide already posted by domi007 in the O2x forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953182). I am just posting a guide in the G2x forum because no one else has yet.
1) Install ADB driver: http://www.junefabrics.com/bin2/LGDriver.exe
2) Enable USB debugging on your phone (Settings->Applications->Development), and connect your phone to your computer via USB.
3) Run SuperOneClick: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
4) Choose the option "Root"
It's really that simple...enjoy
update:
jnichols959 has provided a simple solution to rooting the G2x for Mac and Linux users. We hope that keeping two separate threads will not add to forum clutter. On the contrary we think each thread will be less cluttered and therefore be more helpful to the end user.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048309
Perfect! Thanks for posting this.
(Now I just need to find a Windows machine...)
mapin0518 said:
Perfect! Thanks for posting this.
(Now I just need to find a Windows machine...)
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I apologize for the Windows only solution I've posted. Since I moved in with my girlfriend, Windows has weaseled it's way back into my household. However, there was a time when I wouldn't let a Windows box come within 100 yards of my place of residence.
Thank you very much!
Edit: Thanks works really good!
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mhaedo said:
I apologize for the Windows only solution I've posted. Since I moved in with my girlfriend, Windows has weaseled it's way back into my household. However, there was a time when I wouldn't let a Windows box come within 100 yards of my place of residence.
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Ha no problem. I can just install Parallels or Fusion today. I did manage to get SuperOneClick running on my mac using Mono. However, I don't see any way to install the LG drivers executable file on the Mac, so I doubt SOC will work in this manner without those drivers... not sure if I want to risk trying it.
GOOD! i wanted to know if it really worked with our phones! (without test myself)
thanks alot
NOW all i gotta do is hurry up and wait for m phone to get here (some time today.......GRRR)
Hey thanks for posting this! I currently own a G2, rooted with cm7. I'm planning on picking this beast up in-store on Wednesday and I'm already itching to root it and get a custom ROM on there.
One question though, does this method achieve a permanent root? My only experience with android thus far is the G2, which required an involved process to root. Is this phone just a lot easier to root for some reason??
And then as far as recoveries and ROM's I'm assuming those haven't been released for this phone yet, right??
thanasisc4 said:
One question though, does this method achieve a permanent root? My only experience with android thus far is the G2, which required an involved process to root. Is this phone just a lot easier to root for some reason??
And then as far as recoveries and ROM's I'm assuming those haven't been released for this phone yet, right??
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Yes permanent root. This G2x is not as locked down as the G2, making the process a whole lot easier. And no, no recovery yet, just stay tuned to these forums.
Oh god yes
I already have ADB driver and SOC ready and I rooted few phones through this way.
It's good to know G2x can be rooted easily.
Rooted=no more junk!
Quick question for yall...this won't simunlock the phone will it?
Thanks a bunch.
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malickie said:
Quick question for yall...this won't simunlock the phone will it?
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Nope. It will not.
Received the phone today, rooted it within 5 minutes within hooking up to the computer using the superoneclick tool.
I think it took longer to install the drivers, and SuperOneClick than it did to root the phone.
Alright good to know. Just wondering than if yall have a general idea how long it usually takes a device to get an unlock with root, I am not sure because this would be the first phone for me that I am getting close to the release date.
malickie said:
Quick question for yall...this won't simunlock the phone will it?
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SIM unlocking and rooting the phone are two totally different things.
malickie said:
Alright good to know. Just wondering than if yall have a general idea how long it usually takes a device to get an unlock with root, I am not sure because this would be the first phone for me that I am getting close to the release date.
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If you want to SIM unlock this phone, you can call t-mobile after you have purchased the phone, give them the IMEI number, and in about 2 weeks they will email you the unlock code for the phone.
Mine will be here today sometime.
How do I get the SuperOneClick download, the site shortfuse.org page will not load Help, I really want to get this rooted. Thanks
I found the sticky with instructions about how to root the Infuse but, when I downloaded it, Kaspersky blocked it stating it contained a Trojan. I know there are false alarms off and on, but it makes me nervous, nevertheless. Also, I can't tell if it will work with Froyo 2.2.
Can someone confirm that the file is okay? It comes across as http://.....rageagainstthecage I thought it was odd since that's not the file name. It also crashed Kaspersky, which really did make me nervous.
The sticky is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081072
and the file is....
File Type: zip InfuseRootUnlock_v4.zip - [Click for QR Code] (1.58 MB, 13676 views)
Thank you for your help.
To gain root access to android, you have to basicly find a weakness in the code and exploit it. Rage against the cage is such an exploit.
People have been using this method for some time. If I'm wrong someone please correct me,. So it will trigger a good antivirus.
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Well, after reading your reply, I went through pages and pages of posts on this sticky. I found rageagainstthecage in a few posts, so decided the file is okay. Thank you so much. I had read a lot of posts, but I didn't see any with rageagainstthecage in them, but then I found a couple. Thank you again.
Now, if I can just figure out how to root this thing, I'll be thrilled! Off to the root forum
Thank you again.
RATC is fairly old - most people here use SuperOneClick.
Do note that due to its nature, I believe a lot of antivirus programs treat SOC as a trojan.
The problem is that the same paths we use to get root are the same paths malware uses to get root. That's why a lot of the methods for rooting were closed in Gingerbread.
For Gingerbread, the usual way to grab root on Samsung devices is to flash a kernel that roots your device using an initramfs script.
I'm glad to hear you say that! I decided I'd try Super One Click because the other one just isn't doing anything. I think I'm supposed to type in a command, but I have no idea what command to type in. I used a Blackberry for 7 years, so the Android OS is new for me, well one month old, anyway. I'm still getting used to it. So glad I left Blackberry behind...just wish I'd done it sooner. <edit> Where can I find information about which version to download? Good grief there's a lot of reading on that post
tunie said:
I'm glad to hear you say that! I decided I'd try Super One Click because the other one just isn't doing anything. I think I'm supposed to type in a command, but I have no idea what command to type in. I used a Blackberry for 7 years, so the Android OS is new for me, well one month old, anyway. I'm still getting used to it. So glad I left Blackberry behind...just wish I'd done it sooner. Where can I find information about which version to download? Good grief there's a lot of reading on that post [/QUOTE
Use this guys link, its under the video lol you can watch it for help imo this best version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITSuKCP0i94&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Thank you again. I'm heading there now, but I just read something that makes me nervous. I should probably stop reading. I guess I'm a little gun shy since I don't know the system yet. "It IS a dangerous tool in the wrong hands...Exercise common sense"? What does "common sense" mean? "Fork bomb"? I'll need to Google that one. I know root gives the owner admin rights, but how it does it, I haven't a clue. I guess I have to do more reading...good grief
"rageagainstthecage is a root exploit via a fork bomb.
It IS a potentially malicious payload, BUT it is being used with owner's consent to root the phone.
The DreamDroid malware use exactly same payload - they are trojans, but this is a helpful tool.
It IS a dangerous tool in the wrong hands, but this is a root exploit, so you should exercise common sense and a little understanding of what it does and how it works.
That's a wonderful video. Thank you very much. Now, I'm just going to read more about how dangerous this can be so I can understand what I'm doing when I root. I'd like to exercise common sense, but I don't have any yet. I'd love to donate. I guess I should get a paypal account
The easiest way that I have found to root is found in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116251
Just follow the instructions in the OP, and it's quick and easy. I trust it way more than super one click. Basically, the thread is about an odin package that takes you back to stock, and it just so happens to be pre rooted and has the modified recovery already installed. With super one click, you still have to install the modified recovery after rooting before flashing a rom, which I found to be cumbersome. If you use the ultimate unbrick, you get root and modified recovery in one easy package, and you can go right to flashing roms afterwards. Also, it's helpful to know how to use the ultimate unbrick just in case you end up bricking your device in the future.
Hope I helped. =]
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I checked that post, but it links to instructions for returning a phone to stock. I was looking to root my phone. I'm a little nervous about installing sw that will return my phone to stock. Will I have the option to only root?
Thanks...
tunie said:
I checked that post, but it links to instructions for returning a phone to stock. I was looking to root my phone. I'm a little nervous about installing sw that will return my phone to stock. Will I have the option to only root?
Thanks...
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No its both buddy if you wannz be rooted that's easiest way to follow my video. but yea that other way is good if you plan to flash a rom!
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Use this if you want to.use Odin
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13906731
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tunie said:
I checked that post, but it links to instructions for returning a phone to stock. I was looking to root my phone. I'm a little nervous about installing sw that will return my phone to stock. Will I have the option to only root?
Thanks...
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The package referenced above returns you to "almost" stock - it's stock + root + recovery.
The other option is to use Odin or Heimdall to flash a custom kernel that injects root from the initramfs. For Froyo, I believe the Defuse kernels will do this.
For Gingerbread, any of the Gingerbread kernels will do this - but when you flash the kernel you'll also have to flash a Gingerbread ROM.
Hello,
I have heard about a phone being rooted or not rooted for sometime now and I decided to look into what it meant today. I've decided that I would like to root my LG Optimus V after reading quite a few articles regarding why I should root the phone. I am hoping to get rid of the unnecessary applications that can not be moved to the SD card; it stops me from downloading apps that I'd like to have.
I saw the guide to rooting this phone and I am good at following instructions and have more than average computer experience but I don't know anything about the android system or cell phone rooting.
Under the what you need, I am embarrassed to admit that I don't know what "ADB installed and working" is! I definitely want to learn more and attempt this but am unsure what to do next. Take it on? Some of what I have read about this is almost like another language. I appreciate any and all of your assistance.
cs.
I am on my phone, so it's hard to give you links, but in the Android developers, there is a guidde for setting up ADB. The most hardest part is wait the download time and slow instalation process to make it running. You need a 60 MB file, install it (the longest thing), and some files, Wich are less than 10 MB, extract it to the right folder and you're done.
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Don't do something if you're not sure that it will succeed. Rooting caused me to soft brick my Samsung Galaxy S and I barely managed to save it. There's no guarantee that it will save you if it happens. Just warning you. If you root your device however, you do get a whole new experience of Android. Weigh this out, and try it.
Optimus V huh?
If its anything like the Optimus T, it can easily be rooted by just downloading z4root app and running it
Edit: if its running 2.2.1, z4root works. but if the firmware is 2.2.2 and beyond, then ADB is your method
Do your research. If you decide to do anything to your phone I repeat do your research. Google is your best friends, literally type your question when you have one and find the answer. Get a notepad read threads, watch youtube "how to's" using google put in quotes "HOW TO ROOT" "HOW TO _____" etc. Don't attempt anything till your sure and if something goes wrong don't make the mistake of thinking well I'll do this, this makes sence. You can easily brick your phone doing whAT you think "makes sence" last write the steps down on your note pad with links etc. Make instructions for yourself. If you do all this and you still aren't sure then you aren't ready
Im a noob just read around on the site a lot and take on the task when you feel comfty I've got a hang of it in about a week or so.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058431
Easy guide to ADB setup with screenies
the best method i know of is to use super one click root a simple google search will find you the program easily. I have rooted several devices with no fails using this method
Rooted Devices:
-Zte Blade
-Vodafone 858
-samsung galaxy s2
-motorola droid x
-and more
The process only involves this
1) Switch on usb debugging rom the phones settings
2) connect the usb to the phone and pc
3) click the root button on the program wait for it to root
4) reboot the phone and you will have rooted the device
a good way to make sure that you have root access on your phone is to download root checker rom the market, this app will tell you if you have root access or not mate
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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mike21pr said:
Optimus V huh?
If its anything like the Optimus T, it can easily be rooted by just downloading z4root app and running it
Edit: if its running 2.2.1, z4root works. but if the firmware is 2.2.2 and beyond, then ADB is your method
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Thanks to all for your replies; much appreciated!
Mike,
For some reason, I thought I was not 2.2.2 but the phone was upstairs when I checked this message so I wasn't sure. Of course, since it is more difficult to do, I DO HAVE 2.2.2. !
I hadn't seen the new posts yet as I've been moved to this forum (Sorry I didn't get that right!) and I see that killall has provided the link to ADB I was going to ask for. I see that there are other posts, too, and I will definitely read them now.
One other question! If I get stuck somewhere, which part of the forum do I need? Not that I expect to but it's best to be prepared!
Thanks, again!
cs.
Hello all and thanks again to all of you for your input.
Fanboy_Hunter - Thank you for all of the good, sensible advice. I have bookmarked so many pages at this point that it is all spinning in my head. I need to go through them and compare for consistency and try to understand the why's behind the how's! Also, thank you for what should have been obvious - using YouTube videos; I just use them for music and when someone sends me something funny; I've never thought of You Tube as a "How to" source. A big thank you for that.
Deromeh - It was certainly good to hear that someone else was in a similar situation and was able to catch on within a week. It gives me some hope . . .
killall - Thank you for the link to ADB; I haven't followed it yet but I had already typed my previous post and just before I hit enter to submit it, I saw your link. Much appreciated.
Kannibalism - As I mentioned above, I have been to numerous websites and can't keep them straight - yet! I do remember my phone being on a list of phones that I can use Super One Click with but underneath the list, it was suggested I try another way first. I kept looking for my phone's directions on that website but couldn't find them. Time to re-research. Any idea why they'd say it's on the list for Super One Click and then to try something else first? I'll try to find the quote on that one.
I did try to find out if my phone is rooted or not by using a program downloaded to my phone from the Android Market called Connectbot. The directions from the website were to follow the directions with the download carefully and I would end up with either a * or a #; one meaning rooted and the other not rooted. (I could be wrong about the * and # - it could have been different symbols.) There were no instructions with the download and the screen that comes up is nothing I am even slightly familiar with; it asks me to "Use the quick-connect box to connect to a host." Totally unfamiliar with that.
Can you suggest a simple program to see if my phone is rooted or not?
Sorry for the length of the post; please know I appreciate the feedback!
cs.
Citsme said:
Hello all and thanks again to all of you for your input.
Fanboy_Hunter - Thank you for all of the good, sensible advice. I have bookmarked so many pages at this point that it is all spinning in my head. I need to go through them and compare for consistency and try to understand the why's behind the how's! Also, thank you for what should have been obvious - using YouTube videos; I just use them for music and when someone sends me something funny; I've never thought of You Tube as a "How to" source. A big thank you for that.
Deromeh - It was certainly good to hear that someone else was in a similar situation and was able to catch on within a week. It gives me some hope . . .
killall - Thank you for the link to ADB; I haven't followed it yet but I had already typed my previous post and just before I hit enter to submit it, I saw your link. Much appreciated.
Kannibalism - As I mentioned above, I have been to numerous websites and can't keep them straight - yet! I do remember my phone being on a list of phones that I can use Super One Click with but underneath the list, it was suggested I try another way first. I kept looking for my phone's directions on that website but couldn't find them. Time to re-research. Any idea why they'd say it's on the list for Super One Click and then to try something else first? I'll try to find the quote on that one.
I did try to find out if my phone is rooted or not by using a program downloaded to my phone from the Android Market called Connectbot. The directions from the website were to follow the directions with the download carefully and I would end up with either a * or a #; one meaning rooted and the other not rooted. (I could be wrong about the * and # - it could have been different symbols.) There were no instructions with the download and the screen that comes up is nothing I am even slightly familiar with; it asks me to "Use the quick-connect box to connect to a host." Totally unfamiliar with that.
Can you suggest a simple program to see if my phone is rooted or not?
Sorry for the length of the post; please know I appreciate the feedback!
cs.
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Simple program to check root is this mate: click here
As for super one click saying that the phone should be rooted in another way i have no idea why maybe because a dev has fixed an app to root the phone
for example when rooting my zte blade the method that i was supposed to use was using a modified app i skipped the app and used super one click to root. I did this because i have more confidence using super one click than a modified app.
When rooting a phone there will be no extra benefits when using another method since once the phone has been rooted they have all the same benefits
Hello, XDA! and, even though we haven't met yet, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE STUFF ON MY PHONE!!!!!! This is my first, and dreaded post.
I'm new to smartphones. My first was an iSUCK 3g. Now, I have the SGS4G! I'm totally new to this wprld, and every day, I'm being blown away by something new. Anyways, I have read two guides on this site already, but I'm still suffering from a little confusion. I think my problem comes from when I first rooted my phone. I was in a hurry to root it, because I needed to unlock the carrier permissions, so I could use my ATT sim. I hadn't found this site yet, sadly. I had tried a few things, to no avail, until I came across a you-tube video with some kid showing me how it's done, and other littler kids screaming in the background. Following the video step, by step, got it done, but he failed to go over, and explain what we were actually doing. Now, I don't know what ROM I have, or what kernel. It's not a big issue, because this phone now totally blows me away, especially the launchers.
I really enjoy this phone over the iSucks, becuase I like computers, and I'm more tech savvy than most. Perhaps that's where more of my confusion comes from... the terminology. So, on to the issue:
My RAM seems to run unusually high! with the GOtskmanager, it's always clocking between %72 - %79. I got RAM Manager Pro, which sometimes brings me down to %65 - %69, but it usually doesn't last long. I think I have it nailed down. I think it comes from certain apps that seem to run themselves. I have auto sync off, and I've DONE MY RESEARCH (some of which, I've yet to comprehend) I know not to use a task killer to routinely kill apps, and I know how the OS works, and allocates its RAM. So, I won't even worry about it if someone says these levels are normal.
Any tips on what I should do with my new phone? I saw a video that I can't find again, where this guy had his homescreen set up in such away, that the apps made this 3d cube of tiny boxes (apps) that moved like a rubik's cube. HOW DO I DO THAT!? It's not in any of the launchers I've tried. Anyways, thank you once again, XDA, you guys are awesome. I'm just a newb. Thank you to the users who made the guides!!
Ram is at 84% right now, NOT DOING ANYTHING!
Look at my guide that i have linked in my sig and read through the second post to find a custom rom that you like (i suggest Valhalla Black) and my guide tells you how to flash it. If you have questions, feel free to ask in the guide thread or pm me
And I believe the 3d cubes are part of SPB Shell launcher
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Thank you Julz! I have read your guide thoroughly. I know to search, and research before asking questions. Like I said, I'm just slightly still confused. Did I not put a custom ROM on my phone when I rooted it?
Do I have to factory restore, or uninstall the current ROM in some way before getting another?
Also, I think I fixed the RAM issue. What is normal levels for my device? I can't find normal RAM levels listed anywhere on the net for my device.
Read the first link in my signature as an addition to Juls' guide. After rooting GB you need a custom kernel. Look for SGS Kernel Flasher in either guide to take your next step.
I think you should research more. But to help you a bit...
How you rooted your phone? You know about ClockWorkMod Recovery? Know about Odin or Heimdall?
Also, there is a section in Setting that tells a lot of your phone that is called About Phone.
chris31jct said:
I think you should research more. But to help you a bit...
How you rooted your phone? You know about ClockWorkMod Recovery? Know about Odin or Heimdall?
Also, there is a section in Setting that tells a lot of your phone that is called About Phone.
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Firmware: 2.3.6
Baseband: TE59VUVKJ6
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-sms-kj6-vo.1.0+
Build: GINGERBREAD.VUVKJ6
I used Heimdall to do this, as per the video guide I followed. I just downloaded Odin, for future tasks. I love the Norse theme to this stuff, I know the Eddas practically by heart, as well as the elder Futhark, and actual history of the ancient Scandanavian Vikings.
Be sure to keep your ODIN and Heimdall ports seperate. You can get by with CWM for custom ROM's now except to recover or clean your phone up. Read the Gremlin Remover thread to consider using after a custom ROM flash or two. Your other option is KJ6 Heimdall One-Click.
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Be sure to keep your ODIN and Heimdall ports seperate. You can get by with CWM for custom ROM's now except to recover or clean your phone up. Read the Gremlin Remover thread to consider using after a custom ROM flash or two. Your other option is KJ6 Heimdall One-Click.
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Thank you very much for the tip. Advice heeded! Now, do you know anything about my ram? Why my Go Task mnger is always reading that my RAM is almost always above 70% used?
Read the guide I mentioned above. Get on a custom ROM. Then look at RAM. You are on stock bloated ROM at the moment.
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Read the guide I mentioned above. Get on a custom ROM. Then look at RAM. You are on stock bloated ROM at the moment.
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I've read the guides, the only thing I don't understand about that process, is that, will I need to set up all my apps again, am I starting my phone from scratch? Which ROM would you personally suggest?
When I'm using a custom ROM, am I restricted in any way? Can I still use the market?
Did you read the guide in the first link in my signature as suggested above?
It is best to start fresh when flashing a new ROM. A lot of apps have back up features within the app for settings and such (i.e. GoLauncher).
I recommend Valhalla Black. But all the 2.3.6 ROM's are great.
No restrictions. Except maybe watching movies in the market on rooted devices.
lumin30 said:
Did you read the guide in the first link in my signature as suggested above?
It is best to start fresh when flashing a new ROM. A lot of apps have back up features within the app for settings and such (i.e. GoLauncher).
I recommend Valhalla Black. But all the 2.3.6 ROM's are great.
No restrictions. Except maybe watching movies in the market on rooted devices.
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I didn't read that guide, becuase I'm not on Froyo
Read it.
One more thing. You say start from scratch... Factory Reset? So I will need to root again? Also, I had to unlock the phone to use with ATT. Will I have to do that again?
I mean with your apps. Factory reset won't unroot you. It isn't a bad idea to do a factory reset between flashings as a precautionary measure.
You shouldn't have to unlock again either.
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Also, I had to unlock the phone to use with ATT. Will I have to do that again?
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I'm on ATT as well and flash my phone all the time. I've never lost the unlock.
My brother, thank you so very much for the info! I have been reading the guide you mentioned, and now I know why. 2 guides in there! I can't thank you enough, I've hit thanks on all your replies here, because little by little, you're really helping my understanding of it all. It must be frustrating trying to help people like myself! Thanks for trying to push this stuff through my thick head! However, I've encountered another problem, following your guide:
Trying to back up my efs folder, using Astro File Manager... says it cannot do it! I guess this means I need something that requests superuser permissions?
Any program you would recommend? or can I just do it manually with my computer, like save it on my comp or something?
I recommend starting where it talks about SGS Kernel Flasher. Then once you have the custom kernel with CWM - do and nandroid back up and save the nandroid back up on your computer for safe keeping. That will have your efs folder within it. And I recommended Super Manager
And flash this kernel -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25115050&postcount=1
I guess the kernel I have, doesn't have CWM. So, if I flash a new one, do I need to delete the one I have first or anything? Or just go about flashing a new one, like I never did one in the first place? I can try to find the video guide I followed if you think it will help.
My first post!!!
Anyway, I wanted to know if the GS3DebugFSRoot rooting method removes all the bloat on the phone? Should I just go with this method or should I go the Odin method?
MisterBigs said:
My first post!!!
Anyway, I wanted to know if the GS3DebugFSRoot rooting method removes all the bloat on the phone? Should I just go with this method or should I go the Odin method?
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First, Welcome to XDA!
Back to your question, I am pretty sure that the GS3DebugFSRoot rooting method does not remove all the bloat from the phone. I personally think that the rooting method is better than the odin method, because it is faster and is a smaller download (waaaay smaller). However, the root you get from GS3DebugFSRoot is as good as any other root (because of the way root works). You can use that root access to remove the bloat you do not want.
In addition, after using Noxious Ninja's root method, you can use the root you get to flash a recovery to your phone, which you can use from there to flash many roms/mods/hacks/themes/etc such as CyanogenMod
It doesn't remove anything, just adds root/SU.
Thanks mustbepbs and yosterwp.
yosterwp, you lost me there. Isn't here a major thread of bricking or some other damage to the phone if I start removing some of the bloat myself? If I root the phone how would I know what can be safely removed?
Here is a list of what I'm looking for:
I want to be able to install APKs
I don't want any of the bloat from Verizon or Samsung
I would like to us HotSpot tethering
I don't think I need any custom mods
I do would like the ability to set it back to stock (with no trace of it having been rooted if possible)
Whoops! I guess a went a bit ahead of myself in that post. I'll look into your list in the order the criteria is put.
1. Umm, I believe you can install any apk you want even without root access (Go to Settings > Security > Unknown Sources and check the box). Now if the application requires SU, that's a different story and need SU access.
2. [This answers one of your main concerns too] I forgot where I found this thread, but I bookmarked this spreadsheet on Google Docs. It is a table showing what is safe to remove, what's risky to remove, and what you should not remove. However, if you are rooting for the sake of flashing a custom ROM, then you should forget removing the bloat, as the custom rom should be devoid of bloat to start.
3. HotSpot Tethering should already be on your phone without root or anything... Go to Settings > Mobile Hotspot.
3.5. If you are talking about not using that (because your plan prohibits it) --I'd rather not be the one who encourages violating contracts...
4. If you want to return to stock without a trace of being rooted, get ready for a HUGE download. Go to this thread and use your preferred downloading method. And remember to grab Odin from the link on the page. Thank the OP if you can. Then boot your phone into download mode. [(in computer with phone plugged in) adb reboot download] and then fire up Odin. In odin, hit PDA and then navigate to the large download. Finally just to make sure the flash counter appears to have not changed, go to this thread.
You should be good to go from there. I make no guarantee that my instructions will work for you, but it should point you in the right direction. And if you have any questions, let the forum know!
Wow! thanks for all the info.
One more question. What's your take on whether I need a Recovery tool?
I'm a software developer (web and Windows) and am planning on getting into coding on Android so I'm also looking for a crash course for that too. If you have a link for that I would greatly appreciate it.
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Wow! thanks for all the info.
One more question. What's your take on whether I need a Recovery tool?
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Just have Odin installed and on hand. While the easy root solution is nice, it's still a good idea to be familiar with Odin as you're going to NEED it if you get yourself in a pickle or want to go back to fully stock.
MisterBigs said:
Wow! thanks for all the info.
One more question. What's your take on whether I need a Recovery tool?
I'm a software developer (web and Windows) and am planning on getting into coding on Android so I'm also looking for a crash course for that too. If you have a link for that I would greatly appreciate it.
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If by recovery tool, you mean Odin, then i definitely would suggest getting Odin and the stock images for your phone. Hopefully you will never need it, but it is always good to have on hand. Familiarize yourself with it, especially if you are rooted.
If you are talking about a recovery partition, that is a definite must have when rooted! You can make complete backups of your phone in case something goes wrong as well. And it can do much more.
Now for the android crash course
If you are talking about developing apps, there is a user on YouTube, mybringback, who does excellent videos on developing apps on android for absolute beginners like me. I am not the greatest Dev (in C++ and Java), but his videos gave me a good foot into Java.
If you are talking about developing for the actual android system, then honestly, I have no clue. Many places will tell you how to download and build the source, but not much else... I am still trying to find a site that explains the source...
Hope that helps
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Cool. Thanks guys.
I'll be watching some videos now