Hi guys im new to the forum and new to winmo. I recently purchased an HTC touch pro from verizon, and contrary to most reviews I like it so far. Anyway I need to do quite a few things, and dont know where to get started.
I need to:
- Update the phone (if i install a new ROM will this update the phone?) If not how/where do i get the updates?
- Install a new ROM - do i need to do this? what does it do which one and where?
- I need a youtube app - where/which?
- I would like any web browsers you think are better then opera 9.5 ( I heard Fennic was fast?)
- I also need step by step instructions to doing all of this please. sorry
PS: Do i need to install the software that comes with phone? if I do, or if I do any of the above, doese it waver the 30 day trial period?
Thanks for any help! sorry its so much!
lolobean said:
Hi guys im new to the forum and new to winmo. I recently purchased an HTC touch pro from verizon, and contrary to most reviews I like it so far. Anyway I need to do quite a few things, and dont know where to get started.
I need to:
- Update the phone (if i install a new ROM will this update the phone?) If not how/where do i get the updates?
- Install a new ROM - do i need to do this? what does it do which one and where?
- I need a youtube app - where/which?
- I would like any web browsers you think are better then opera 9.5 ( I heard Fennic was fast?)
- I also need step by step instructions to doing all of this please. sorry
PS: Do i need to install the software that comes with phone? if I do, or if I do any of the above, doese it waver the 30 day trial period?
Thanks for any help! sorry its so much!
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Today is a great day to spend reading.
The answers to all your questions and more can be found here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael
and here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=437
Welcome to the forum and winmo and have fun.
I would still like any help you guys can give. thanks for the links but im stil pretty confuions about some of the specific questions i had.
lolobean said:
Hi guys im new to the forum and new to winmo. I recently purchased an HTC touch pro from verizon, and contrary to most reviews I like it so far. Anyway I need to do quite a few things, and dont know where to get started.
I need to:
- Update the phone (if i install a new ROM will this update the phone?) If not how/where do i get the updates?
- Install a new ROM - do i need to do this? what does it do which one and where?
- I need a youtube app - where/which?
- I would like any web browsers you think are better then opera 9.5 ( I heard Fennic was fast?)
- I also need step by step instructions to doing all of this please. sorry
PS: Do i need to install the software that comes with phone? if I do, or if I do any of the above, doese it waver the 30 day trial period?
Thanks for any help! sorry its so much!
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First off - Why do you feel you have to install a new ROM - you say you are happy with the device. Are you saying this because many people here are flashing different ROM's to their devices so you think you should. You just got your device - you should really learn how to use it first and figure out what it can do for you. Afterwards if you feel you want to flash a new ROM, than the ROM you choose is based on your needs. Follow the advice already given to you and start reading (LOTS) If you don't you might kill your device before really getting to enjoy it.
Opera is a good browser, I have used it - but I am now using skyfire. I just find it quicker. Haven't used Fennic so can't say how it compares
Youtube app - You can watch Youtube using Skyfire - but there are several Youtube apps available throughout these forums. If you do a simple search with Keywod "youtube" you should be able to find some rather easily. I don't use any though because I can watch them though Skyfire.
You probably won't find anyone giving you step by step instructions for unlocking, flashing and installing apps etc... you have already been pointed to where you need to go to learn this for yourself so do some reading. If you have questions after having done some reading about something specific, then ask and people will help but not many people will hold your hand through this.
If you try returning your device within the 30 days with a custom (non official) ROM - you might have some troubles. You will have to reflash your stock ROM back to your device and lock it again I think.
I don't know what you mean - Do I have to install software that comes with the phone. There are many apps available in this forum which you can easily install (many are in .cab format for easy installation. Some in .exe format requiring installation from your computer to your device though activesinc and some are just (place on your device and run it) Take into consideration which version of WM you have on your device (some are specific to WM 6 some to 6.1 and some to 5. Also take into consideration your screan. VGA or WVGA or QVGA etc.. as running an app with resolution different than your device and it will not display properly. If you install an app and it does not work properly or you just don't like it - go to settings - System - Remove programs and uninstall the app that way (works only for cabs or exe's installed) The others you just navigate to where you placed the app and delete it. You cannot delete applications hard coded into your ROM (from what I have read)
There is much to learn in these forums and it is up to you to do some reading and learning and figure out for yourself what it is you really want on your device. As you can see from my signature - I am still running my stock WM 6 ROM.
If I sound like I am being harsh I appologize; however, I must point you to this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/faq.php
These are the rules and you need to read the rules - I notice that you created three seperate threads asking pretty much the same thing. This was the first thread started and was in the right section.
You created another one asking the exact same things after not having gotten the response you were looking for (bad move and a violation of the rules) and you created a third asking the same thing but not in quite as much detail (violation of the rules)
We are (most of us) are helpful community; however, you must do some work yourself to learn as much as you can and this will require lots and lots of reading. If you don't do the reading and learning for yourself (you just will never understand your device and what it is capable of and your next post will be titled
"Help - I bricked my device" - You don't want this and neither do we. Read and if you need clarification (because it is a lot to learn and can be confusing) then ask questions about your specific uncertainties. We will be glad to help (except I can't help with flashing ROM's because I havn't ever done it yet) lol
Good luck and enjoy your new device
thanks for all the help man, i should have done more research, the wiki is kinda confusing to me though and i wasnt sure of the different procedures to flashing etc. sorry. One question though, I was looking at downloading a pack of apps from bwone.com called the bowman pack pro, i cant really find much info on it, besides the apps it contains and therefor am unsure of how to install it.
lolobean said:
thanks for all the help man, i should have done more research, the wiki is kinda confusing to me though and i wasnt sure of the different procedures to flashing etc. sorry. One question though, I was looking at downloading a pack of apps from bwone.com called the bowman pack pro, i cant really find much info on it, besides the apps it contains and therefor am unsure of how to install it.
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I checked out the website you mentioned and checked out hte Bowman pack pro - Sorry that I really can't tell you much about it or the apps included; however, if it is completely free - give it a shot - it is probably a cab install which is easy enough to install and uninstall. If it is not free or only trial version then use the search function under your name up top to try to find prorams which are equivelant but free on this site. You really should be able to find most things you need through this site. I don't want to discredit the website you mentioned. I have never seen it before so I will leave that at that. I know this site and there is much available for everyone here.
You want cool music players seach S2P or Mortplayer or TCPMP or the new Nitrogen player (all free) or core player (pay) all are really good in my opinion.
TCPMP also plays videos really well (as does core player but Core Player has other codecs I think) There is a special version of TCPMP to run on your device I believe - Use search above.
Check out development and hacking section of this forum for all your application needs. Apps do not have to be designed specifically for your device as I have already mentioned above.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=260
This is link to Development and hacking section where you will find most of the apps and ROMS developed for all devices - Remember ROMS are device specific - Apps are not device specific in general - Check out apps that interest you and read the developers description and program details - It should tell you everything you need to know. Read also throughout the thread to see what others say about the program - How it runs on their devices, bugs found, fixes etc....
Like already said before - There is a lot of reading to do - This is a reading forum but it will allow you to enjoy your device to the max.....
Good luck.
Hello everyone,
I'm not new to this forum, i have used it for many years now. Yet i have never made any contribution to the community.
I was fiddling with my G1 again when i found out my rom folder was a complete mess filled with update.zip packages, roms i didn't even know i downloaded. So i though, hey lets develop an application to manage all my roms and radio's with a quick button to upload a rom or radio to my g1.
Something like this:
Sorry i could not post a link, it's restricted. My account is still blocked for that. Admin??
I wonder if anyone would be interested in such an application? And if you are interested could you come up with suggestions to make it better/ help me debugging (i'm a student, i don't have a lot of spare time).
If anyone is interested i will seriously think about further developing this app,
it's now in pre-pre-alpha stage or so .
Greetings from holland.
zuenaerox said:
Hello everyone,
I'm not new to this forum, i have used it for many years now. Yet i have never made any contribution to the community.
I was fiddling with my G1 again when i found out my rom folder was a complete mess filled with update.zip packages, roms i didn't even know i downloaded. So i though, hey lets develop an application to manage all my roms and radio's with a quick button to upload a rom or radio to my g1.
Something like this:
Sorry i could not post a link, it's restricted. My account is still blocked for that. Admin??
I wonder if anyone would be interested in such an application? And if you are interested could you come up with suggestions to make it better/ help me debugging (i'm a student, i don't have a lot of spare time).
If anyone is interested i will seriously think about further developing this app,
it's now in pre-pre-alpha stage or so .
Greetings from holland.
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First off, I am not sure if this is in the right section...perhaps putting it under General might be a better option, as it does not have to do specifically with developing a ROM.
Secondly, the idea seems promising. I am not fluent with ADB, but if you can flash roms with it (IE: boot the phone into recovery, and use adb to flash the rom), then yeah, I think it would be a great idea. And again, depending on what ADB can do, haev it control nandroid/bart as well for backing up and restoring. I know ADB has the shell command, so if you can use stdin/stdout to read/write to that shell prompt, it would be feasible.
But that is forcing every user to go ahead and keep a db of the ROMs they download...perhaps using an external host to manage the images (keep a listing, changelogs, etc) of the individual roms would be an idea...then you can have the application pull roms directly from that repo. This, of course, would require you to manage the remote repository and keep it up to date.
Thats my $0.02
jmhecker said:
First off, I am not sure if this is in the right section...perhaps putting it under General might be a better option, as it does not have to do specifically with developing a ROM.
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This is ANDROID Development, not ROM Development.
My $0.02.
Bavilo said:
This is ANDROID Development, not ROM Development.
My $0.02.
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Thats why I said "I'm not sure"...I stand corrected though.
If we want to get technical, this is Htc Dream (G1) Android Development. If we want to be nitpicky this should be in Android development unless it is only for the Dream (G1) and will not work for any other Android phone, which I doubt. But who's being nitpicky anyway?
JAguirre1231 said:
If we want to get technical, this is Htc Dream (G1) Android Development. If we want to be nitpicky this should be in Android development unless it is only for the Dream (G1) and will not work for any other Android phone, which I doubt. But who's being nitpicky anyway?
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First off, I love the last line of your signature...classic
I just know that the mods and certain 'Senior Members' like to trash talk about threads in the wrong section, rather than simply stating that it would be more appropriate elsewhere. I was just trying to stop the bashing before it started, heh.
This thread is getting sidetracked though. I do think that the idea is a good one, whether it be strictly for G1, or across the board for all Android devices.
Sorry...
Sorry for posting this in the wrong section, i thought it should be in this section becouse it involves rom's.
Putting up a rom repo, would involve PHP and Mysql(a large one, saving all roms and radio's).
I would be very interested starting this project. I could use some help however. I don't mind building such a repo, but the content should be community managed.
I think android is going to be the mobile future so building such a repo would pay off since we're getting more and more rom's. Ill experiment with php and mysql tonight. I don't have a host, i run it locally.
Maybe someone with mysql/ bandwith to spare?
greetings
zuenaerox said:
Sorry for posting this in the wrong section, i thought it should be in this section becouse it involves rom's.
Putting up a rom repo, would involve PHP and Mysql(a large one, saving all roms and radio's).
I would be very interested starting this project. I could use some help however. I don't mind building such a repo, but the content should be community managed.
I think android is going to be the mobile future so building such a repo would pay off since we're getting more and more rom's. Ill experiment with php and mysql tonight. I don't have a host, i run it locally.
Maybe someone with mysql/ bandwith to spare?
greetings
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It wouldn't necessarily have to be done with MySQL/SQLite/etc...XML would work just as well, but can be a bit more tricky to manage. SQL probably would be the better option now that I think about it.
This idea would have 2 parts to it then, correct? The backend (database hosted online somewhere), and the frontend for the user desktop.
As far as the bandwidth required, there are plenty of places on the net that are geared towards hosting of open source projects...perhaps you could use one of their offerings.
The idea first involved a client managed application only. However the idea in the other post about a web based repo liked me better . Ill try to develop a simple web application to add rom's,track changes. I will try to put a test application online tomorrow.
I hope this repo will be used and managed. I like this forum very much and the community could not live without it. This repo would absolutely be and addition to xda!
Using the repo, you could view all available rom's, installation instructions, track changes.
Check the thread tomorrow. Ill try to upload an example
Have a nice day
zuenaerox said:
The idea first involved a client managed application only. However the idea in the other post about a web based repo liked me better . Ill try to develop a simple web application to add rom's,track changes. I will try to put a test application online tomorrow.
I hope this repo will be used and managed. I like this forum very much and the community could not live without it. This repo would absolutely be and addition to xda!
Using the repo, you could view all available rom's, installation instructions, track changes.
Check the thread tomorrow. Ill try to upload an example
Have a nice day
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I think anything is better than what we have now: Threads scattered all over the place with new ROMs getting posted. We need something more centralized.
bro you look like a fake maxisma .. hahahhaha .. sorry had to point that out
@georgegreco86
Well thank you for your kind reply...
@jmhecker
I've put together a quick php,mysql script on a temporary host. It's not possible to add roms. But you can view rom information in an organized way.
This is just an example of what is possible. Never mind the layout.
Its just a quick preview.
androidrepo.zxq.net/index.php
Greetings
Great idea!!!
im not a developer, but im a flashaholic he he, cant wait for this info....
zuenaerox said:
@georgegreco86
Well thank you for your kind reply...
@jmhecker
I've put together a quick php,mysql script on a temporary host. It's not possible to add roms. But you can view rom information in an organized way.
This is just an example of what is possible. Never mind the layout.
Its just a quick preview.
androidrepo.zxq.net/index.php
Greetings
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The one thing to think about with this is when you allw people to add/update/delete their roms. You will have to have some sort of permission system in place that would prevent UserA from deleting a ROM that was created and uploaded by UserB.
Also, this creates another login/password that the rom creators need to remember.
Yeah i thougt about that, unfortunatly we live in a world where you can't trust people. So yes i need to build an user auth system
This was just preview
I'm going to bed now, ill be working on it tomorrow
have a nice day
I like to help
well I am just putting a new linux server online in the next day or so
toss one of my google adds on the page and you can host it there
and as space requirements grow I can add more np
it would at ther very least get it hosted so you guys can get it off the ground
by the way I have been lurking around here for months
some of the stuff you guys have done is truely sweet my phone
will never be the say again unless rogers has its way
Hello guys,
I've been working very hard on the repo and i'm glad to announce that the admin part is allmost fully finished!!
@Broncosis
Thank you for your reply!!!!
i hope your host can run php, and mysql. I use the mysql to upload foto's and roms are saved to the server harddisk. Will this be possible?
Thanks in advance for helping get this project off the ground !!
greetings
zuenaerox said:
Hello guys,
I've been working very hard on the repo and i'm glad to announce that the admin part is allmost fully finished!!
@Broncosis
Thank you for your reply!!!!
i hope your host can run php, and mysql. I use the mysql to upload foto's and roms are saved to the server harddisk. Will this be possible?
Thanks in advance for helping get this project off the ground !!
greetings
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If I may make a suggestion: When you are working on the frontend (what the users (not devs) will see, code it using proper XHTML standards, and utilize classes from within your CSS. The reason I say that is I would be willing to make a desktop application that would scrape your webpage at load, and obtain the ROM categories, rom information, download links, etc, and the user would then be able to simply choose a ROM from the application, which in turn would download it, and create a nandroid backup of the phone, move the ROM over, and flash it, without any user interaction. (thats assuming I can work out a few of the troubles I am running into with ADB and Fastboot)
zuenaerox said:
Hello everyone,
I'm not new to this forum, i have used it for many years now. Yet i have never made any contribution to the community.
I was fiddling with my G1 again when i found out my rom folder was a complete mess filled with update.zip packages, roms i didn't even know i downloaded. So i though, hey lets develop an application to manage all my roms and radio's with a quick button to upload a rom or radio to my g1.
Something like this:
Sorry i could not post a link, it's restricted. My account is still blocked for that. Admin??
I wonder if anyone would be interested in such an application? And if you are interested could you come up with suggestions to make it better/ help me debugging (i'm a student, i don't have a lot of spare time).
If anyone is interested i will seriously think about further developing this app,
it's now in pre-pre-alpha stage or so .
Greetings from holland.
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You may want to partner with the guy who built Droid Explorer. This sounds like a natural extension to that tool (if it's not already baked in). I know you can push things like APKs to the phone from Droid Explorer.
maxawesome said:
You may want to partner with the guy who built Droid Explorer. This sounds like a natural extension to that tool (if it's not already baked in). I know you can push things like APKs to the phone from Droid Explorer.
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Do we know who it was that created Droid Explorer? I would love to be able to improve upon what he has already done.
dear fellow XDA developers
i have a serious question, and i hope that there is somebody who can tell me what to do if my Samsung S4 zoom is hacked? it runs on a android system ( OS / Upgrade Android JB MR1 (v4.2) ) And is there a way to find out who did this, i mean is there something that i can use to identify the hacker without a pad that the hacker wont see that i have pin him down so that i can contact the polici and inform the police about the hacker??? maybe you find this questions silly questions but a need to know what to do!! Because i can not sleep for three days now, and i think you also need to know that i have absolut no idea about phone, smartphone, computers and so on and on and on how these divices works and run a dont install programs and i feel very sorry to bother you with my questions, but i hope that there is somebody out there how can give me the answore i need. manny manny manny thanks folks! Yours truely DelinQuent H
DelinQuent H said:
dear fellow XDA developers
i have a serious question, and i hope that there is somebody who can tell me what to do if my Samsung S4 zoom is hacked? it runs on a android system ( OS / Upgrade Android JB MR1 (v4.2) ) And is there a way to find out who did this, i mean is there something that i can use to identify the hacker without a pad that the hacker wont see that i have pin him down so that i can contact the polici and inform the police about the hacker??? maybe you find this questions silly questions but a need to know what to do!! Because i can not sleep for three days now, and i think you also need to know that i have absolut no idea about phone, smartphone, computers and so on and on and on how these divices works and run a dont install programs and i feel very sorry to bother you with my questions, but i hope that there is somebody out there how can give me the answore i need. manny manny manny thanks folks! Yours truely DelinQuent H
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Keep your room padlocked, your screen locked, stay away from crappy apps/pirated apps, and make sure you didn't do anything stupid with security. Reflash and wipe all data, unless you have been logging things right along. Seriously, I doubt it was an external hacker unless you were not following 1 of the rules above and invited him in. The basic functions of Android run on the Linux kernel with limited services listening-and none behind CGNAT on your cell carrier and NAT on most routers(as Android only connects via wireless). The UI is basically a Java interpreter known as the Dalvik VM, with each app having isolated permissions, unless you carelessly grant one of the above things root access, which should be controlled by a superuser app. I think your hack was internal, perpetrated by something you let on your phone or near your phone. As far as finding him, maybe IP logs if you have any, otherwise, fully wipe, follow the above rules, and move on. Sorry I don't have better news but maybe this is good news for you that you likely weren't hacked by a mystery bogeyman.
Hi! Updated to 4.1.2 after lots of pain -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2571305 -- not sure if there's anymore updates you should do
It deleted all my apps, settings, everything when it wasn't suppose to...
Best launcher to download? Just one please.
And the rest of the other kinds of apps?
Links are helpful.
I cannot believe that I'm getting almost zero help as to what are the best apps. For this simple problem. So I made a list that anyone can edit (wasn't sure what site to put it so I put in on google spreadsheets). It's a gift to the droid community!! --
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au_G8juRoIiqdGtURlFqVEdzcHhPdk84NXFyNmVUdHc&usp=sharing
far from completed
Please include links or other really good support when recommending an app that you've meticulously tested (in comparison with other apps of its kind) for inclusion.
You received no help because your question doesn't have an actual answer, or rather: every answer is equally valid as it's a highly subjective question, and the answer depends on each user. Besides, it's open ended (you're asking for *every* single app category out there) and shows a lack of research from your part.
About your rant on that spreadsheet, where you basically say that people pretending there's no "best" don't understand the meaning of "best"... Perhaps you should revise your definition first.
best
of the most excellent, effective, or desirable type or quality.
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All that is superlative, and subjective. How do you define that? Obviously it depends on what each user wants. You could say "if an app can do everything, then it's the best!" - but what if it lacks speed? Or security? Or something else? There's always a trade-off, one app cannot be suitable for everyone.
Your list is nice, but it's for you. Other people will disagree. I'd actually recommend discussing those apps your like in this thread, for example, if you want to.
With all that in mind, and considering your question is open ended, I'll try to give you what you need to answer your question yourself (because no one else can.)
You can find a list of launchers here (a quick Google search showed me that.) Obviously, some newer launchers may be missing since new launchers come out often (you can contact the OP if you find any.) I can't help you about "the rest of the other kinds of apps" because I don't know what those are.
If you have something more specific in mind (*what* *you* want app X to do, no "what is the best X,") do ask and give the necessary information and someone will help you out if they know.