It does not change ver. from 4.1.2
what does this updatedo?
What does this update do? Does it affect my root? Thanks!
It is notifying me too. Since I have twrp and root on stock jelly bean, how can I update if helpful, or turn off update notification?
Chad
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AFwarbird said:
It is notifying me too. Since I have twrp and root on stock jelly bean, how can I update if helpful, or turn off update notification?
Chad
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Started getting the notification yesterday, but I'm also on stock Jelly Bean 4.1.2 and TWRP. I was able to stop the notifications by freezing "AT&T Sofware Update" with Titanium Backup, but I'd also like to know if there's anything here worth the trouble of trying to get it installed.
I just had a chat session with a Samsung official, and she said it's news to them. I told her that I am on I727UCMC1, and she said that my device is up to date. The small update AT&T is pushing must be something to do with AT&T.
Unless it updates my camera features, I'm not even bothering with it, and will keep AT&T Update frozen.
I'm pretty sure I'd have to backup everything, revert to stock UCMC1, cross my fingers and toes that it still doesn't brick my phone, and hope it still can be rooted the way I did before.
It sure would be nice if there was some sort of explanation as to what is being updated. I have looked all over and not found anything anywhere else that mentions this update to I727UCNJ1. I got the number from this an at&t website I would post the link but can't. It is only 12mb so probably not worth a bunch of trouble but I wish I knew what it is trying to update.
Paranoid?
Me too. Mine is original stock, but I upgraded the Android OS last year to 4.1.2 via Samsung Kies. However, mine is unlocked, and I can't help but be suspicious that AT&T is "updating" to do something that is to their benefit and not ours (i.e. relocking the phone?, spyware, etc.?), so it would be nice to have some details of what/why this unexpected update, before blindly agreeing to it. So, if anyone know what this update is all about, please share with us. Thanks very much!
My money's on an update that locks the phone down. What else would AT&T possibly do with a three-year-old platform that isn't making them any new money at this point?
I chatted with an AT&T representative yesterday, and all I could get out of her was that the update had to do with new features to the O/S. That's all the information that she could find, and couldn't tell me any specifics about what features were being updated.
I am about to go to an S5 or S5 Active soon, and I might just revert to stock to check it out.
It's pretty fishy though that neither Samsung, or AT&T has, or wants to divulge in any, information on exactly what it's going to do.
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As far as it locking your device back down, I have yet to flash, or install anything that has re-locked my phone. I guess it's possible. The only thing I'm worried about is losing root, and not being able to get it back with the last way that's available.
I see it's now listed on the AT&T eSupport website No details, just "Android OS Enhancements".
I don't have enough posts on this forum to be permitted to publish a link, but you can find it by Googling "AT&T Update to Skyrocket", and the eSupport link should be near the top of the results.
AT&T is taking the same tack as Verizon, and locking everything down. Even the mid to low end phones. So, I wouldn't be surprised if this is a way to lock older phones.
On the other hand, it really may be final bug fixes - a sort of final service pack. I wish I trusted them to give it a try.
I reverted back to stock I727UCMC1 using Odin v1.85, updated OTA to I727UCNJ1, flashed TWRP custom recovery, got root back, but I am not sure if I am still unlocked or not. I tried *#7465625# on the dialer, but the code does nothing.
Anyone know of another code to check the unlock status?
Thanks very much for your feedback. I've always just put a SIM card from another carrier into my phone. Even if it is not an active SIM, your phone should still tell you whether or not it is locked.
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I reverted back to stock I727UCMC1 using Odin v1.85, updated OTA to I727UCNJ1, flashed TWRP custom recovery, got root back, but I am not sure if I am still unlocked or not. I tried *#7465625# on the dialer, but the code does nothing.
Anyone know of another code to check the unlock status?
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unless u restored a previous efs partition that was locked to a carrier then u will remain unlocked, afaik no one lost their unlocked sim by restoring or flashing any firmwares, to read more about the sim lock or to unlock the sim read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2638037
as for firmwares locking down the phone its referring to the way root is acheived not to the sim carrier lock
T.J. Bender said:
My money's on an update that locks the phone down. What else would AT&T possibly do with a three-year-old platform that isn't making them any new money at this point?
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i hope you are joking, because if not then then you're insane. no offense intended.
Not so insane, I'm afraid. AT&T has started a war on unlocked bootloaders lately. The CEO has officially come out as saying they don't want unlocked devices on their network, and have followed up by sending out OTA updates that lock down devices. Several devices started out unlocked, like the S2, and became locked by OTA updates. The S3, Note 2, etc.
IOW, I wouldn't put it past them, especially if Samsung wasn't aware of the update. On the flip side, the S2 is no longer even for sale, and I have to wonder how many are left in active service.
Clarification?
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i hope you are joking, because if not then then you're insane. no offense intended.
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Thanks, that was very helpful! Seriously though, as a senior member of this forum, perhaps you might have some constructive comments on this subject? After all, we're sitting here with phones (the I-727 SII Skyrocket is an oldie, but goodie!) that are trying to push an unanticipated OTA update on us, in a very suspicious manner. We hope it's just a bug fix, but don't trust the carrier (AT&T) to be doing this, unless they have some ulterior motive. The benefit of your substantial experience would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for any insight you can offer us.
Regards,
Ron M.
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Not so insane, I'm afraid. AT&T has started a war on unlocked bootloaders lately. The CEO has officially come out as saying they don't want unlocked devices on their network, and have followed up by sending out OTA updates that lock down devices. Several devices started out unlocked, like the S2, and became locked by OTA updates. The S3, Note 2, etc.
IOW, I wouldn't put it past them, especially if Samsung wasn't aware of the update. On the flip side, the S2 is no longer even for sale, and I have to wonder how many are left in active service.
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Thank you for your insight, it was TRULY helpful! As a relative newbie, I just want to clarify our terms. When you use the term "unlocked", I deduce you are referring to a phone that has been rooted and is running a different platform - is that correct? In my case, I am NOT rooted and simply running the original crappy stock platform, but my phone is "unlocked" in the traditional sense, in that I can use it with different sims from different carriers throughout the world, rather than being "locked" to AT&T. So, for those of us who are not as technically advanced, could you please clarify? For me, if this OTA update doesn't prevent me from continuing to use other sims from other carriers, then I don't know what the downside would be, unless they're just adding more spyware and bloatware to their already intrusive system? I look forward to your comments.
Regards,
Ron M.
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Not so insane, I'm afraid. AT&T has started a war on unlocked bootloaders lately. The CEO has officially come out as saying they don't want unlocked devices on their network, and have followed up by sending out OTA updates that lock down devices.
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I thought T.J. Bender was talking about simlock since he didn't mention the bootloader. :silly:
At&t sure isn't making life easy for you.. I'd still be proudly rocking a skyrocket too if I didn't lose it :angel:
I only messed with my Skyrocket for an hour or so after accepting the OTA update, before starting up my new S 5 Active.
The only thing that I really noticed, was they took the AT&T phone setup app off of it, since it is no longer in use by AT&T. There may have been more that I didn't notice, but only running it a couple hours, I couldn't tell. I even checked the camera thinking they might have finally snuck some new features into it, but no dice.
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How does suggesting that AT&T would lock a bootloader make me insane?
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Hey everybody, I have literally spent all day on this computer looking for a way to flash Cyanogenmod. I am currently running version 5.0.1 which I do not like at all. Having slow email problems and occational black screens right after this last update.
I do not know much about the process but I did successfully flash CM on one of my older phones a couple years back.
My google searches might come back with a couple rooting guides but then most end up being for older versions. Or maybe not for my particular model #. I have tried KingoRoot and Towelroot today, but both froze somewhere during the process. Luckily it wasn't far enough into the rooting process to do any damage. I tried OneClickRoot and paid for it,(mistake), but then was told it had to be done remotely by them. Not very fond of that idea. I even was in chat with their support and thought we were ready to start, but he asked if I could come back 2 hours later because all their techs were in scheduled roots.
I just want to find a quick easy and safe way to root this model and version of lollipop, myself, which isn't easy to find. I'm sure I can handle finding and flashing Cyanogenmod myself.
Can anybody help point me in the right direction?
Thx. Jerry
iowabucks said:
Hey everybody, I have literally spent all day on this computer looking for a way to flash Cyanogenmod. I am currently running version 5.0.1 which I do not like at all. Having slow email problems and occational black screens right after this last update.
I do not know much about the process but I did successfully flash CM on one of my older phones a couple years back.
My google searches might come back with a couple rooting guides but then most end up being for older versions. Or maybe not for my particular model #. I have tried KingoRoot and Towelroot today, but both froze somewhere during the process. Luckily it wasn't far enough into the rooting process to do any damage. I tried OneClickRoot and paid for it,(mistake), but then was told it had to be done remotely by them. Not very fond of that idea. I even was in chat with their support and thought we were ready to start, but he asked if I could come back 2 hours later because all their techs were in scheduled roots.
I just want to find a quick easy and safe way to root this model and version of lollipop, myself, which isn't easy to find. I'm sure I can handle finding and flashing Cyanogenmod myself.
Can anybody help point me in the right direction?
Thx. Jerry
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Hi,
Please check this: http://www.xda-developers.com/root/
Good luck.
All I see in the Samsung S4 categories are " Galaxy S4 (International Exynos – Snapdragon | Verizon | Sprint | AT&T | T-Mobile | Canadian)".
I have a US Cellular. I realize that may not be one of the biggest carriers, but would USC be supported under one of these other carriers?
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All I see in the Samsung S4 categories are " Galaxy S4 (International Exynos – Snapdragon | Verizon | Sprint | AT&T | T-Mobile | Canadian)".
I have a US Cellular. I realize that may not be one of the biggest carriers, but would USC be supported under one of these other carriers?
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Hi,
You can ask here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/help
Good luck
I did already post in that forum, anonymously, last week with no response. I have had this forum bookmarked for about two years but only posted once. Couldn't remember my password at the time.
I have done numerous google searches with no results that would work for my model #, carrier, and android version. 5.0.1 The version seems to be the sticking point. Maybe I just need to give it time for that combination to show more results with google.
If I was to get another phone, what would be the best phone/carrier out there that would respond the best to rooting and custom ROM's?
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I did already post in that forum, anonymously, last week with no response. I have had this forum bookmarked for about two years but only posted once. Couldn't remember my password at the time.
I have done numerous google searches with no results that would work for my model #, carrier, and android version. 5.0.1 The version seems to be the sticking point. Maybe I just need to give it time for that combination to show more results with google.
If I was to get another phone, what would be the best phone/carrier out there that would respond the best to rooting and custom ROM's?
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Hi again,
Please check this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
Good luck picking up new device.
Has anyone been able to get a working root for the luna pro on straight talk yet. I dont know much about programming but it would be nice to get root to remove knox and other crapware that samsung throws on these phones.
krak1nthor said:
Has anyone been able to get a working root for the luna pro on straight talk yet. I dont know much about programming but it would be nice to get root to remove knox and other crapware that samsung throws on these phones.
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No root at all. Apparently Samsung isn't a fan of root anymore. Or, carriers aren't. No progress at all so you'll be better off buying a new phone. This one is junk. A major downgrade from the original J3, which had 2 gigs of RAM and an AMOLED display. Oh, and it had NFC.
Well honestly imho this phone is worlds better than the core prime i was using. And it is fast especially how i got it set up. Carriers are what ruin the devices we buy as they want things locked to their spec list, i know this personally as i used to work for radioshack and was able to compare the same devices for different brands. Each had slight mods done to the setups but mostly the hardware was close to baseline over the big three, att, sprint and verizon. And essentially most straight talk stuff is either verizon or att anymore so if a root works for that device it should take for ours one would think.
Also its nkt that samsung wont allow root, its a deal thing with certain providers. My wife has a phone from life wireless and we asked around if it could be ported to another carrier and life wireless said it could not as the refurb stuff they provide for people is software locked to their system. But we ended up getting another device and was able to use the life sim for the new phone and kept her number and service. We just recently in the U.S. pass a law in federal court saying its illegal for any carrier to deny service or warrenty for any rooted device. But of course apple isnt a part of that. Only androids as far as i know.
Literally just took this out of the package for my sons first phone. I figured all these cheaper smart phones would be easily rooted. Im bummed out now
And still no one has tried to get this model rooted. I have lost faith with xda on this phone
Here is a qeustion for you. Since I know that the unlocked variant j3 firmware can be used to flash on to att he and be able to root, is there any way being they come from the same hardware and all that the Verizon j3 7.0 firmware would work on our Luna pro straight talk model. I know that all of the hardware is the same between the Verizon and my S.T. models from all the spec sheets I have came across. At this point I don't care for root, I just want the update to 7.0.
By the by I'm currently pulling the firmware off Google drive right now.
well i have searched and dug and so far have found that these phones use the very same logic board: sprint , verizon , tracfone/straight talk and a smj327r4(u.s cell?). and i managed to get the verizon firmware downloaded for the smj327vl, but really need an extra device to test if it works to install on the st/tracfone variant. if it works then we would have a valid android 7.0 on the luna pro model.
i have test phone
krak1nthor said:
well i have searched and dug and so far have found that these phones use the very same logic board: sprint , verizon , tracfone/straight talk and a smj327r4(u.s cell?). and i managed to get the verizon firmware downloaded for the smj327vl, but really need an extra device to test if it works to install on the st/tracfone variant. if it works then we would have a valid android 7.0 on the luna pro model.
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I have a spare sm-s327vl to try the firmware flash what is the google drive link???
I'm not sure on how to add the drive link. am adding it to my Dropbox so I'll post it here in a couple minutes hopefully
Found a way...lol
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/mobile/my-drive
It's labeled j327vl. And thanks for being a guinea pig for testing it. Let me know if it works!
What I do know is that it is in multiple parts..... For flashing in Odin. So I guess that's how the newer phones get their files now thru Odin for a stock flash. The last phone I odin'd was a galaxy core prime and it was a single file flash.
Any news on how it went with flashing the Verizon firmware?
Im going to purchase a spare Luna pro on payday and test this out myself to see if it works.
Joker do you have any news? Did you get it flashed. Anything it would be nice to have some input.
Nobody can download it because it redirects back to their own Drive. That's not the link to share. You have to go to that file & allow link sharing. Then copy/paste that link here
Sm-s327vl
Any luck with this?
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Im going to purchase a spare Luna pro on payday and test this out myself to see if it works.
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I've searched and searched, but haven't found where anyone has made any headway toward rooting this device. Have there been any new devolpments?
Gotcha give me a couple
Alright I'm downloading it to my phone and then I'll try to upload where you can pick it up. Any recommendations to a site other than drive that would be easy to get thru
I downloaded the original software and Troys rom in the SDcard. I made sure they are the right ones for my model, SM-N986U1.
I downloaded Odin to my desktop. I have also rooted twice before. But rooting seems a lot more complicated. I've read several rooting threads and it's confusing. It was hard before, but straight forward.
Please could someone walk me through the process? Or point me to a reliable paid service.
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I downloaded the original software and Troys rom in the SDcard. I made sure they are the right ones for my model, SM-N986U1.
I downloaded Odin to my desktop. I have also rooted twice before. But rooting seems a lot more complicated. I've read several rooting threads and it's confusing. It was hard before, but straight forward.
Please could someone walk me through the process? Or point me to a reliable paid service.
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There is none, anything above bootloader 1 can not be rooted, even with paid services
adj998 said:
There is none, anything above bootloader 1 can not be rooted, even with paid services
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People have rooted the Note 20 and there are ROMs available. Please explain. Did I buy the wrong version of the Note 20?
There is a Snapdragon version and an Exynos version. This dichotomy has been around for a long time for Samsung phones. However, despite being unable to root consider yourself lucky as the Snapdragon has significantly better performance/battery efficiency than the Exynos variant.
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People have rooted the Note 20 and there are ROMs available. Please explain. Did I buy the wrong version of the Note 20?
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There's no easy answer to your question. As others have mentioned if your device came with a recent version of Android then reverting back to the previous bootloader (Ver 1) from the current updated one is next to impossible. I don't believe the paid services folks have been able to get around that either.
Now the Exynos version is a bit more flexible in this regard if you're able to get the right model but here's the conundrum- Since you a have a U1 device which is the U.S unlocked version I'm assuming you're located Stateside. This makes it really difficult to find an Exynos version which supports U.S bands and if you do you'll have to deal with lack of carrier aggregation and various other headaches. You could potentially look for a Honk Kong or another Asian Snapdragon variant but you'll circle right back to where you started from with the same bootloader issues you're currently facing. Dig through the various threads and ask questions there if you still want to pursue it further.
Sorry bud. Not the answers you were hoping for but I hope this helps!