[Q] Auto toggle 3g when screen is ON (not off) - General Questions and Answers

i know there are alot of apps that will switch off 3g and wifi when the screen locks. i use juicedefender and it works good. i'm talking about taking it to another level.
is there an app that will auto switch 3g off while you are using your phone and screen is ON and in active use to save even more juice? and only switch the 3g on when any app requires it. sort of like how juicedefender has the "traffic threshold" feature, but when the screen is on. there are times when i stay on a page for a long time and not using data and the radio is on.
is there any app that basically only turn on data while the screen is on and an app requires data, then auto toggle it off when lets when a traffic threshold is reached (lets say under 1kbps/per 5 seconds etc), then switch it back on when your app needs to connect. or is this just overkill of trying to save juice? lol.

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[APP] Tasker

I use Tasker for automating a lot of redundant tasks on my phone. I figured I would post a couple I'm using with hope that others will share with me some stuff they use it for.
action: Docked.
Tasks done when docked: Bluetooth on, wifi off, gps on, auto brightness set off [if time < 1800, Display Brightness set to 255 if time < 1800, pandora set on.
exit tasks: Bluetooth off, auto brightness on if TIME < 1800, pandora set off, gps off.
Action open Application Maps/Nav or any gps app.
Tasks done: GPS on
exit tasks done: GPS off.
action: phone face down
Tasks done: airplane mode on if time < 2200, all sounds off except for alarm
exit tasks: airplane mode off, all sounds revert to previous settings.
these 3 i use, if you have any others let me know. If you need help with the program let me know too.
here is where you can grab tasker.
http://tasker.dinglisch.net/
Sounds something that I would definitly use. I beleive its a paid app, but still worth it. I'll look into it. Does it have settings for wifi e.g.- 1 touch WIFI on, because i'm using the stock wifi on/of toggle but I then have to go into wifi settings and actually see my phone connecting to my network in order for i to work and turn on.... ??????
Yeah there are settings for connecting to wifi. Mine does it automatically when I get home based on the gps. Works most of the time, had to turn it on manually a couple times because the gps wasn't on.
generic.imitation said:
Action open Application Maps/Nav or any gps app.
Tasks done: GPS on
exit tasks done: GPS off.
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How do you set up an OR for the app launch context? I'm trying to get it to turn on GPS when I open Maps, Foursquare, Yelp, or Places, but it doesn't let me multi-select apps and if I add a context, Application isn't there.
Make it separate tasks.
make 1 for each app.
Foursquare - turn on gps. Turn off gps when exit.
Ect.
also, I guess there is a wiki with a bunch of samples I guess. I'm out at a remote beach on northern oahu right now, but if someone doesn't post it before me I'll post the link when I get home.
generic.imitation said:
Make it separate tasks.
make 1 for each app.
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Yeah, that's what I've been doing. It'd just be nice if you could have conditionals in the context. IF Yelp OR Foursquare OR Maps OR Places then ...
Post over there and make a feature request, they should put that in I agree .
Just bought Tasker and so far I like it. Can't seem to figure out how to do the following task though.
I need to set to static IP when on a certain wifi connection. I already have the IP set and the only thing that will need to be done is to toggle the static IP checkbox in the advanced setting of wifi. I know how to specify the wifi network but how can I make it toggle that checkbox/setting?
Thanks for any info.
i made a simple widget to toggle the screen brightness to two preset brightens for inside and direct sunlight.
i could not find an app that let me choose the brightness, they either made it full dark/bright.
i can't work out however to toggle a different widget icon to indicate on/off...
i've tried set icon but with no luck
its not really needed but would be good to have/know for future apps
also, can anyone explain how the HTTP (get info from net) works?
i want to try a few things but not really sure how it works
This app is the best app on the market... hands down. #Win
generic.imitation said:
Yeah there are settings for connecting to wifi. Mine does it automatically when I get home based on the gps. Works most of the time, had to turn it on manually a couple times because the gps wasn't on.
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You should use "wifi near" as a condition instead of "gps". That way it just toggles you wifi on and off periodically and if it is near... it will connect.
Gps is so demanding on the battery... and not always accurate... as you see
I set mine up so whenever I plug in my headphones my music app opens
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ichigopow said:
I set mine up so whenever I plug in my headphones my music app opens
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I set my heaphones the same.. but at the same time, it cuts my media volume up (in case it was down) and when I unplug them... it returns my media volume back to it's previous value
MrDanger said:
I set my heaphones the same.. but at the same time, it cuts my media volume up (in case it was down) and when I unplug them... it returns my media volume back to it's previous value
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I do the same except my volume goes down when I plug them in so I don't have music blaring in my ears.
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I also have a profile that texts my gf a random message at a random time that is between 7:30 am and 7:40 am (so she don't think it's automated lol) every morning. I got that idea from LexusBrian
Again.. great app!
Here was I have got going on with tasker.
Car dock: gps on, bluetooth on, display always on, notification volume off. On exit they all do the opposite.
When home: wifi on. Exit wifi goes off.
At work: phone goes to vibrate for everything.
10pm to 545am: phone goes quiet.
I second it a best app ever. Wifi, gps, and bluetooth are never on when I don't need em. Come on you can't beat that. What a battery saver.
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Tasker is an incredibly handy utility.
Here's the profiles I use:
GPSonForLocationApps - I think this one has already been covered by this thread.
WifiOnAtHome - I use the wifi near option... although I think it's causing issues with my 3G signal... it will occasionally turn on wifi to check if I'm at home which seems to turn off 3G. Still playing with this one.
LowVolumeDuringWorkHours - sets various volumes appropriately so I can still hear stuff but doesn't annoy folks working near by. I turn this on/off based on day of week and time of day. Upon exiting this profile it returns my volumes back to normal.
NoficationsOffAtNight - I turn off notifications at night and if my phone is plugged into AC.
SilentForMeetings - if I have a calendar entry where I'm marked as busy it turns my phone to silent mode.
Openwatch?
Hello
I am new to Tasker, and I'm starting to understand exactly how much you can do. Uses open watch a lot and have done a lot of settings to make my clock better. But I wonder if I can get messages from one app to my watch. The app is an ice hockey results service. And each time it becomes a goal, I get it as income message in the status bar. But can I get the message in the clock at the same time? Right now I just get a message in the watch which I've written, but would like it says in the status bar so you do not I pick up the phone to look at the result. Is there perhaps a few codes to enter, instead of my message is? Hope you understand me?
I have mine set to enable WiFi when I connect to a certain cell tower. Keeps the drain on my batter to nothing more than it was already at, and GPS is only enabled for about 5 minutes to and from the house. I'm sure the drain for that combined 10 minutes is much less than periodically checking the GPS or if a network is near.
I am turning off gps when I get to my home cell tower and turning on my wifi at the same time.
For my multimedia apps like pandora, I have my screen stay on when plugged to a power source.
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Juice Defender settings

What settings do you use for Juice Defender. I've been messing with this app but is unsure on what is the best settings to use.
I had it on balanced and it said it was saving me 1.22x batterylife and one day I switched it to custom and I swear I changed very little and now it shows 1.89.
Give that a try.
I am a bit skeptical on these battery saving apps. They run in the background, using more memory and battery.
I'll mess with it a bit more...
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I only use Juice Defender to shut off mobile data when Wifi is turned on and when certain apps run... otherwise, I dont let it shut off my data or wifi because the phone has fantastic battery power, so I let it stay on 24/7.
I use it to turn WiFi and data on or off by location.. night mode and on custom stewing and get about a day and a half on a charge with pretty heavy use
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caliber177 said:
I only use Juice Defender to shut off mobile data when Wifi is turned on and when certain apps run... otherwise, I dont let it shut off my data or wifi because the phone has fantastic battery power, so I let it stay on 24/7.
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Mind sharing your settings?
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Actually juice defender does a very good job for the battery life mainly on stand-by. If you are unsure of the settings i suggest using the ,,balanced,, option. But here are some of my tips (i use a lot of 3g internet on my phone, so the settings are a little more internet-permissive )
About tab: I selected here turn data network on screen wake-up ( i use the friends stream network, mainly for twitter updates and i like to have a 3g connection rigt after i wake-up the screen (default is turn on 3g when you unlock)
Control tab: I didn.t change here anything, the default settings are good
Schedule : I choose some peak times here ( from 12 - 16 weekdays) when the 3g stays always on, even if i turn off the phone - i recive alot of emails during this time (also i set up mail peak times during this interval to 1h update)
This is what i changed on my device. It may not suit you or any other user, but as i said, personally i noticed a good change in battery life in standby (this is what Juice Defender actually does by turning off data connection when not needed, simple but effective)
I use the dim screen option, set at 55%, and min at 80%, max at 150% and enabled the dimmer option under about
I'm using mainly the default settings and so far so good.
The only issue i have found is that i could not install an .apk from SD card when juicedefender is active. I had to disable it in order for the "install" button to work! Any ideas?
I love juice defender, it says it gets me 1.90x more battery.
i use custom setting and i have night time where it disables most things between certain times when im asleep, the apps i tell it turn things like twitter and stocks not to access internet at all, as i dont even use them.
its very clever and i have just looked at the advanced options and there is so much more you can do. need to learn a bit more about it before i used advanced.
Thanks for the replies. I'll mess around and test it a bit more.

You and I both know there ia an app for that...

I just don't know what it is called...
I am looking for an app to turn data on/off at specified times. Something that allows for 3g/4g programing would be great, but anything is better than nothing. Thanks, hive mind!!
I think Tasker does what you want...it'll do pretty much anything! It's a paid app, but well worth it. You can have the phone modify settings, turn on/off settings, or launch apps based on triggers (time, location, etc.). It's a bit difficult to program at first, but once you get the hang of it, it's a breeze. I have it set to turn on wifi when I get close to my house (using aGPS only, to save battery life), and to turn the ringer on when charging (and back to vibrate when not). It's awesome.
Juice defender pro it has a option called night mode but you can set it when ever or just do what I do add a HTC widget to your home page from settings called mobile network and just open it when you want to use it. That saves even more power.
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Thanks, MadMan. Exactly what I was looking for! I don't want to press buttons. I want to set it and forget it!
Does Tasker allow data on/off on Gingerbread?
Llama also works great for Froyo, but no more data on/off on Gingerbread.

[Q] Mod or kernel hack to force GPS to stay on?

I would like to disable the ability to disable the GPS in the phones for use with an "invisible fence" app.
I don't care if the toggle in the notification area goes off or on, but I would like the phone to enable GPS on bootup, and just keep it on regardless.
Any ideas?
Why would you want it to stay on? It is a huge battery hog.
voldomart13 said:
Why would you want it to stay on? It is a huge battery hog.
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mrcpu said:
I would like to disable the ability to disable the GPS in the phones for use with an "invisible fence" app.
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I think I was pretty clear in the original post.
WTF is an invisible fence app??
and any app that requires GPS, will use GPS as needed. OLD Facebook app version for example, as long as it was on your screen, GPS was constantly locking. But it would kill the battery in less than 2 hours from full charge. so the facebook app changed the gps to lock once every so often, while the app is open on screen.
Other apps run a background service to access GPS at a set or random interval. Google Latitude for example. Not on screen, but will check-in or update location when-ever.
As you see the APP needs to have the set permissions, and options selected.
and in the end. your battery is dead in 2 hours with what you *think* you want
TRusselo said:
WTF is an invisible fence app??
and any app that requires GPS, will use GPS as needed. OLD Facebook app version for example, as long as it was on your screen, GPS was constantly locking. But it would kill the battery in less than 2 hours from full charge. so the facebook app changed the gps to lock once every so often, while the app is open on screen.
Other apps run a background service to access GPS at a set or random interval. Google Latitude for example. Not on screen, but will check-in or update location when-ever.
As you see the APP needs to have the set permissions, and options selected.
and in the end. your battery is dead in 2 hours with what you *think* you want
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This is not correct. (at least on the apex rom I'm running).
If you turn off the GPS in settings (not using the toggle on the notification bar), then fire up google maps, the first thing it does is tell you that not all the options for locating the user are turned on, and to go to settings and turn on GPS.
I recall reading somewhere that Google disabled the ability for apps to turn the GPS on and off. They could query it if it was enabled, but couldn't turn it on if it was off.
If the user can turn it off in settings, then that defeats the purpose. I want the GPS on all the time, regardless of settings.
I don't care about battery life, I have 4 captivates in this house, I am well aware of their capabilities and limitations. And I don't really care if you think it's a good idea or not, all I'm asking is if anybody knows of a way.
there is a difference between switching GPS "on" and having GPS activated or locking signal.
in the android settings or with any toogle app, you can turn GPS on or off.
I have it ON 24/7, I bet you do too.
you turn GPS "on", so apps CAN use/activate it if they try to.
you turn GPS "off" to prevent apps from using it, thus reducing battery drain and increasing security.
having GPS on 24/7 doesn't do crap to battery, it depends on the apps, and how they are programmed to use GPS, and if they were programmed to work like you want, they would work like I SAID.
there have been apps that used GPS like you suggested. THEY GOT FIXED. you really dont understand how fast it drains the battery.
and i dont mean to offend, but you also dont understand how the apps interact with the GPS.
Originally Posted by mrcpu
I would like to disable the ability to disable the GPS in the phones for use with an "invisible fence" app.
I think I was pretty clear in the original post.
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No. You weren't, WHAT THE FRICK an invisible fence app? and how does using the LARGE font help?
house full of captivates? did your dad get a family plan?

[Q] Juice Defender Ultimate

So using this app, I want to be able to listen to live radio but when my screen turns off JD turns off all data connections (expect if I'm on wifi)
What settings do I need to set JD at to keep it from doing that?
Thanks.
Theres a simple setting that is "turn off data when screen is off" or something to that effect. Don't use that setting, and it won't cut off your data.
Be aware that this is one of the main features that Juice Defender uses to save battery, but as you've found out, you get no background data. This means no streaming, but also no push updates from any services.
Keep in mind as well that if you're using your phone frequently, but not for a long time (aka frequent e-mail or text replies, etc.), so you're turning the screen on/off often, JD might actually drain more battery than simply leaving the phone stock. It takes a long time and subsequently a lot of battery power to be turning the data services on and off dozens of times a day. Sometimes moreso than simply letting it stay on. 3G data doesn't really drain a lot of battery unless its actively transmitting.
YoungGun821 said:
So using this app, I want to be able to listen to live radio but when my screen turns off JD turns off all data connections (expect if I'm on wifi)
What settings do I need to set JD at to keep it from doing that?
Thanks.
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I'm using the advanced settings in JDU. If you go to the Triggers tab you can try 2 things. Right now I have traffic set to enabled. If live radio is playing and using data then it should continue to do so until the data stream stops. You can play with the settings if you think it needs more or less time or data, obviously.
Previously I used the Apps trigger and told it to give Pandora, Amazon music, etc., full rights to use data. That might be another option for whatever program you are using.
Just go to the Trigger tab (note: You might have to choose Advanced as profile to see the Trigger tab). Then, in the "apps" section, choose activate (or enable, I'm not sure what is called in the english version) if not already chosen. Then tap below on "Configure apps". In that list you look for your Radio app and set it at "Enable/screen off". Then the data connection for your radio app should be enabled even if the screen goes off.
I use it for cut 3g and battery life, do his job, nice app
I would recommend using Tasker instead. You can configure it so that data stays on if the radio is on, but turns off when the radio is off.
Mekanikz said:
I would recommend using Tasker instead. You can configure it so that data stays on if the radio is on, but turns off when the radio is off.
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What's the advantage of using Tasker instead of Juice Defender?
staud said:
Just go to the Trigger tab (note: You might have to choose Advanced as profile to see the Trigger tab). Then, in the "apps" section, choose activate (or enable, I'm not sure what is called in the english version) if not already chosen. Then tap below on "Configure apps". In that list you look for your Radio app and set it at "Enable/screen off". Then the data connection for your radio app should be enabled even if the screen goes off.
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This seems to work but what I didn't know was that the app has to be in full screen mode. Can not just run it from the widget on my home screen...

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