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Is there a Map program that works like a GPS but instead of using gps using the data

connection to guide you?

danresvel said:
connection to guide you?
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Nope. The data conenction or cell-information is not accurate enough to pinpoint your exact location. To get an example, try Google Maps Mobile (maps.google.com/gmm on your mobile device). It has a 'my location' function that uses cell information, but you'll see it'll never have more than about 400m accuracy.

[Q] Is data plan required to use GPS on samsung captivate

Guys,
I jus bought Samsung Captivate. I am new to this.
Is data plan required to use Google maps/Google navigation/GPS on samsung captivate?
If yes, then what is meant by integrated GPS. On wirefly site it says pre-loaded google maps. Should not it behave like normal GPS then?
My GPS does not work unless 3G data or wi-fi (in short internet is on) enabled. I get the lock pretty fast if 3G data or wi-fi enabled. If I turn them off I keep getting message data connection lost.
I block my 3G data using APNDroid or JuiceDefender.
TIA.

ahh technically/theoretically? If you can get a maps program that has an offline cache of files, then no data wouldn't be required. I recall spotting some google map cachers and I think there was an extra android app or two you could use that utilize some sort of downloaded maps. MapDroyd looks like a familair name but I can't speak for any of them since I just stream with google and never tried anything offline anyhow.

kismmisk said:
Guys,
I jus bought Samsung Captivate. I am new to this.
Is data plan required to use Google maps/Google navigation/GPS on samsung captivate?
If yes, then what is meant by integrated GPS. On wirefly site it says pre-loaded google maps. Should not it behave like normal GPS then?
My GPS does not work unless 3G data or wi-fi (in short internet is on) enabled. I get the lock pretty fast if 3G data or wi-fi enabled. If I turn them off I keep getting message data connection lost.
I block my 3G data using APNDroid or JuiceDefender.
TIA.
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The program "Google Maps" is preloaded, but Google Maps requires a data connection. The GPS chip itself is integrated and you can get your Latitude and Longitude without needing a data connection.
So, yes you have Integrated GPS and Google Maps, but you need a data connection to use Google Maps in real time navigation or just pulling up a map.
As mentioned above, if you want to do mapping without a data connection then you need a way to store maps on your phone - All of North America usually takes up few gigs of space depending on the application.

Att will automatically recognize your phone as a smart phone and will add a data plan. I don't think there is a way around it.
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kismmisk said:
Guys, Is data plan required to use Google maps/Google navigation/GPS on samsung captivate?
If yes, then what is meant by integrated GPS. On wirefly site it says pre-loaded google maps. Should not it behave like normal GPS then?
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I do not know what 'preloaded' Google Maps is, but yes, Google Maps/Navigator does require data. If you want a GPS software that uses only the GPS chip (and no data), there are software that does that. Personally, I prefer CoPilot Live.

Thanks all for your replies and answers! It helped.

How about GPS???

Hello,
I am thinking of buying the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 WIFI P3110 but I have a question.
One of the things I really like to have on it is GPS. When I google for this model I get contradicting information. One website says it has build-in GPS while another website says it doesn't. Then somewhere else I read it uses A-GPS. I'm really confused now.
What I want is this: to be able to navigate without the use of a data connection. Is this possible???
Hope you guys (and girls) can help me out

My P3113 has GPS and it works fine. I'm guessing the P3110 has GPS as well, as I think the only difference is a lack of the IR Blaster.

yep

I've been unable to use navigation using just GPS.
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I also have the P3113 gmaps works fine with GPS also installed CoPilot works just as well
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@Lehocki
So is this working fine with just the GPS??? Or do you also have a data connection at the same time???

Galaxy S i9000 said:
@Lehocki
So is this working fine with just the GPS??? Or do you also have a data connection at the same time???
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When you speak of GPS and a data connection, you're talking about two different things. The GPS is basically a radio receiver that interprets the signals from orbiting satellites to determine your position. This capability is already present with the Tab. The practical application of this GPS data requires some kind of map interface to display the location information (from the GPS receiver). The "data" connection is needed to download the actual maps that display on your device as you move. Google maps does this. There are however programs that allow you to download all the needed maps at one time in advance and then store them on your device. Then when using the GPS, the data connection isn't needed because the maps are already on board. Two examples of this are CoPilot GPS and Back Country Navigator. I've used both and they work great. Hope this helps.

Google maps has a feature to save maps for offline use. I haven't actually tested it without a data connection though
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Yeah the GPS works great on mine. Very quick lock on and very accurate. Unfortunately I haven't tried it without a data connection, so I don't know how it works while you are out.

PickledJaW said:
Yeah the GPS works great on mine. Very quick lock on and very accurate. Unfortunately I haven't tried it without a data connection, so I don't know how it works while you are out.
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Same as me, on my GT-P3110 with a navigation map out of data:good:

OK, reviving this thread a lil bit. I recently cracked the screen of my Nexus 7. In the market for getting another tablet. The primary use of the N7 has been as a media center/navigation for my car. I listen to pandora and use Google Maps being tethered to my smartphone. The GPS is important as I have to make a few 18 hour trips halfway across the country and back to pic up my son for my time with him...and then repeat the trip to take him back. I have found a couple used galaxy tab 2's locally on craigslist. Having not really looked into the GTab 2, would this be a suitable replacement for my N7 or do you think I should just get another N7? Open to suggestions.

Endoroid said:
Google maps has a feature to save maps for offline use. I haven't actually tested it without a data connection though
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I don't think routing or searching for businesses etc works in offline mode. All you can do is view the map. Google doesn't believe you have the right to use navigation offline. You must always be connected.

GPS Accuracy

I'm on CyanogenMod 10.1.2 and I'm using Strava to record my cycling rides. For some weird reason the new track I rode isn't accurately recorded as you can see in the image attached. The lines are straight and not curved with the track. My friend that rides with me records his rides also and he's using a Nexus 4 and on his map it looks perfect. I attached the same part of the track from his map so you can see the difference.
I was wondering if the problem is with the GPS receiver being inferior to the Nexus 4 or is it a software issue?

I think that this is a software issue, open in app that you are using and search for gps settings or something there will byte probably to set gps refresh rate or to change on how many meters to track or fix gps peaks or something like that...(you can try another app and see does will be the same )
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Mile_zdr said:
I think that this is a software issue, open in app that you are using and search for gps settings or something there will byte probably to set gps refresh rate or to change on how many meters to track or fix gps peaks or something like that...(you can try another app and see does will be the same )
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Well, Google Maps is the tracking app, Strava only shows the relevant cycling data. So I think it's something with Maps that is incorrect. Couldn't find any GPS settings in it. I did turn off Google Location Services, maybe if I enable it the tracking will be more accurate? Or maybe it's just that Maps version that is buggy. Also, I'm not updating to Maps 7 cause it's buggy for some reason.

Pierrot Lunaire said:
Well, Google Maps is the tracking app, Strava only shows the relevant cycling data. So I think it's something with Maps that is incorrect.
Couldn't find any GPS settings in it. I did turn off Google Location Services, maybe if I enable it the tracking will be more accurate?
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why don't you try app like runkeeper https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fitnesskeeper.runkeeper.pro&hl=en
Or something like My Tracks from google https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.maps.mytracks&hl=en
and see how it goes

I already have a pretty nice database of rides recorded on Strava so it's kind of a bummer to switch apps now, but I will try for the testing.
Thanks

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It's weird, I actually just checked my past recorded rides and there the lines are correct. It's only recently that it started recording with these straight lines... I just have to figure out what have changed...

I figured out what was the problem in case anyone else is interested. I recorded those past rides with Maps 7 and since it was a bit glitchy I reverted back to Maps 6.14.4. Turns out the older version just tracks straight lines. I'm back with Maps 7 and the tracking is perfect!
I hope my phone won't go too crazy with Maps 7. As long as it tracks my rides correctly I'm glad

Great ,What i have told you it's a software problem
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[Q] Can I get my location using Cell towers only

Can I get my location with Wifi OFF 3g/LTE off and GPS off using only cell towers or does it need internet to get the info, my father says his Iphone 5 with apple maps doesn't need internet to get his location but what does my father know is this even possible and if so how do I do it on my nexus 5.

fleen said:
Can I get my location with Wifi OFF 3g/LTE off and GPS off using only cell towers or does it need internet to get the info, my father says his Iphone 5 with apple maps doesn't need internet to get his location but what does my father know is this even possible and if so how do I do it on my nexus 5.
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Settings > Location
Click Mode
Select Battery Saving Mode
Disable Wifi and Mobile Data if you haven't already
Your approximate location will now be determined using cell tower triangulation. However, if you are trying to use Google Maps for example, you need to have previously made the area in which you are currently located available offline, or have it in your Google Maps cache. Otherwise it won't display anything of value to you without some sort of internet connection to download the map data.
You can also use Device mode which will use GPS to pinpoint your location. Same maps caveat applies as above, and obviously you need to be able to get GPS satellite locks (ie. outside or next to a window).

fleen said:
Can I get my location with Wifi OFF 3g/LTE off and GPS off using only cell towers or does it need internet to get the info, my father says his Iphone 5 with apple maps doesn't need internet to get his location but what does my father know is this even possible and if so how do I do it on my nexus 5.
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You don't need internet to locate yourself only GPS.
Apps like Tasker and Llama can use cell tower location without draining your battery and requires a network connection but not data.
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xda_fanboy said:
Settings > Location
Click Mode
Select Battery Saving Mode
Disable Wifi and Mobile Data if you haven't already
Your approximate location will now be determined using cell tower triangulation. However, if you are trying to use Google Maps for example, you need to have previously made the area in which you are currently located available offline, or have it in your Google Maps cache. Otherwise it won't display anything of value to you without some sort of internet connection to download the map data.
You can also use Device mode which will use GPS to pinpoint your location. Same maps caveat applies as above, and obviously you need to be able to get GPS satellite locks (ie. outside or next to a window).
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I can't seem to get it to work I have downloaded google maps to view offline and it just stays there saying "waiting for location..."
And did the part "Settings > Location
Click Mode
Select Battery Saving Mode
Disable Wifi and Mobile Data if you haven't already"

Pretty sure the only way for that to work is if you have "WiFi always scanning" turned on.
You can set your locations to Device Only and it will just use the GPS and nothing else.
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fleen said:
I can't seem to get it to work I have downloaded google maps to view offline and it just stays there saying "waiting for location..."
And did the part "Settings > Location
Click Mode
Select Battery Saving Mode
Disable Wifi and Mobile Data if you haven't already"
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You need GPS on at least. Thats what gives you your location. You can get a location based off of three things: Your mobile data, WiFi networks or GPS itself. You said you turned it all off so yeah, you arent going to get a location that way.

jsgraphicart said:
You need GPS on at least. Thats what gives you your location. You can get a location based off of three things: Your mobile data, WiFi networks or GPS itself. You said you turned it all off so yeah, you arent going to get a location that way.
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I can get my location with wifi and cell towers together. No GPS so I think its possible with Cell Tower Triangulation only in theory.

fleen said:
I can get my location with wifi and cell towers together. No GPS so I think its possible with Cell Tower Triangulation only in theory.
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Well just from looking at the settings, you can either use GPS, WiFi and mobile networks....WiFi and mobile networks....or GPS only. So I guess, take your pick.
What are you trying to get out of this anyway? Just use your phone for calls and maps and thats it?

jsgraphicart said:
Well just from looking at the settings, you can either use GPS, WiFi and mobile networks....WiFi and mobile networks....or GPS only. So I guess, take your pick.
What are you trying to get out of this anyway? Just use your phone for calls and maps and thats it?
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You know those fitness apps that track where you have been and stuff, well I want to use one but outdoors theres no wifi and GPS uses too much battery

fleen said:
You know those fitness apps that track where you have been and stuff, well I want to use one but outdoors theres no wifi and GPS uses too much battery
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If you want to save some battery on the GPS side put your phone in airplane mode. That will shut down all but GPS. I use mine all the time with an app called Backcountry Navigation Pro. They have a free version so you can check out most of the features that way. You can set it to record a track from every 5 seconds to 30 minutes. I set it to 5 minutes and have pretty good accuracy as far as where I've been and the GPS use is only on for that time. You should be able to do that with any good mapping app.

theesotericone said:
If you want to save some battery on the GPS side put your phone in airplane mode. That will shut down all but GPS. I use mine all the time with an app called Backcountry Navigation Pro. They have a free version so you can check out most of the features that way. You can set it to record a track from every 5 seconds to 30 minutes. I set it to 5 minutes and have pretty good accuracy as far as where I've been and the GPS use is only on for that time. You should be able to do that with any good mapping app.
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This is an option but if I can get the cell tower location working I would prefer it.

fleen said:
This is an option but if I can get the cell tower location working I would prefer it.
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Cell tower triangulation is not precise at all. It's only used to help your device catch GPS fix faster. If one would only use cell towers the accuracy would in most cases not got below 300-500m...

One cell tower can provide signal for a very large area. It can not be used for precise tracking as you need.
When I drive away from my house it can take over 5 minutes to leave the area of my 3 "home" cell towers.
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So its not what I want ok guys thanks how can I close this thread now?