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Inspire 4G and the cyanogenmod (questions)

Im new to the android community and phones. I bought an Inspire with gingerbread (2.3.3) and would like to add cyanogenmod to it but the tutorials look so "harmfull" they scare me away so i have some question.
Can i downgrade from 2.3 to android v1?
Have anyone here rooted and flashed the same phone I have?
What is "radio? Can I change it to another one? how can I tell if it will work with my carrier?

please, please, please. READ
these questions you are asking concern me
1. you dont downgrade to v1....because it doesnt exist
2. we all have the same phone as you, otherwise we wouldnt have an inspire section
3. there is an entire thread dedicated to this very subject....look in the dev section.
there are easy to follow guides, tutorials, and walkthroughs here, but you have to READ...there is ZERO excuse for not reading and comprehending this stuff. if it is too much for you, you should NOT be doing any of it, and leave your phone stock

This is why I said..im NEW with this... none of what you helped in some way.

joandajer said:
This is why I said..im NEW with this... none of what you helped in some way.
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then you have some READING to do. nobody here is going to hold your hand.
ALL the information you seek is already here, but you have to READ
Sorry if all you want is someone to hold your hand and spoonfeed information to you
NEW or not, it doesnt matter. I was NEW to this phone when i got it. I READ, the same way i have done with all my other phones. I READ to understand what i am doing and how to do it.
heres the first thing you should have read when you came to the inspire boards:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353
its a sticky for a reason

Thanks for the link. Wil this tool The Ace Hack Kit work with 2.3.3 version? for rooting pourposes i mean?

joandajer said:
Thanks for the link. Wil this tool The Ace Hack Kit work with 2.3.3 version? for rooting pourposes i mean?
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from the OP in the ACE Hack Kit thread:
Both stock Froyo and Gingerbread supported
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this question has come up several times in the last month. yes it works just fine

Hi, i just rotted the unit and everything was fine
So i decided to use, cyanogenmod, it installed
now i can make calls but it does not connect to the data network portion.
Any ideas?
I noticed the radio baseband is slighly different than the original. could it be?

Sorry. was quick. i entered the APN settings and it is now connecting.. just Edge....before (stock rom) i had "H" (guessing is 3G). Now it only connects to E (edge i assume).
The weird thing is that before whenever i was in an area with only edge It would not allow me to browse but now I can.
any idea jedi master?

you can try a different radio. look at the radio thread in the dev section

Sorry to bother you so much. I was able to solve the radio issue. Now, since the market app wasn't included i followed the guide on how to install gapps but after doing so i can't get pass the boot screen "touch the android to begin".
I try to wipe and reflash but still does not let me do it. Any ideas?

did you touch the android to begin?

Yes, sir. But it will still restart.
i try to wipe data and restart the process but same thing happens.
Tried taping the four corners and an still happening.
Someone said the the gapps file might be corrupted.
Right now cyanogenmod is a pain. is there a way to install another room or the stock one through recovery?
Thanks for all your help!

joandajer said:
Yes, sir. But it will still restart.
i try to wipe data and restart the process but same thing happens.
Tried taping the four corners and an still happening.
Someone said the the gapps file might be corrupted.
Right now cyanogenmod is a pain. is there a way to install another room or the stock one through recovery?
Thanks for all your help!
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you can install any rom you like in recovery.
boot into recovery
go to mounts and storage
mount usb storage
on your computer, copy the rom zip onto the phone
back,
install zip file from sdcard
browse to rom zip
confirm flash

Thank you. I am downloading RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_Cingular_US_2.47.502.7_Radio_12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03_M_release_200368_signed.exe.... is this the correct stock?
Does it have to be on ZIP? if so, where can i find stock roms?

joandajer said:
Thank you. I am downloading RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_Cingular_US_2.47.502.7_Radio_12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03_M_release_200368_signed.exe.... is this the correct stock?
Does it have to be on ZIP? if so, where can i find stock roms?
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no. this will leave you an unrooted stock rom
why dont you browse the dev forum here and look at all the ROM offerings?

I think i will just go with the stock one and the do the same procedure (using the hack kit and just leave it stock rooted....
would that be ok?

joandajer said:
I think i will just go with the stock one and the do the same procedure (using the hack kit and just leave it stock rooted....
would that be ok?
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No because you'll still have s-off just flash pirateghost's rom its similar to stock rooted and is always good
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App

Nick281051 said:
No because you'll still have s-off just flash pirateghost's rom its similar to stock rooted and is always good
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App
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Gene Poole has a very nice stock sense 3.0 rom. its very stock. mine is slightly 'themed' with some added tweaks

Thanks I will try RUU and if that does not work will download the latest one he has: PD98IMG_Ace_Cingular_US_1.84.502.11_Radio_12.39a.60.19_26.06.06.30_M_release_184324_signed.zip

joandajer said:
Thanks I will try RUU and if that does not work will download the latest one he has: PD98IMG_Ace_Cingular_US_1.84.502.11_Radio_12.39a.60.19_26.06.06.30_M_release_184324_signed.zip
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thats not the latest rom.
are you scared of the dev forums? lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1018

[TOOL] Auto Deodex/Debloat AT&T One X

This tool will automatically deodex your AT&T One X if its rooted and has Busybox installed (one click root tool already does all of this for you). This should make it easier for folks to install modifications since we don't have a CWM .zip of deodexed files quite yet.
http://briefmobile.com/auto-deodex-tool-for-htc-one-x-att
Also, developers are encouraged to take a look at the batch commands. You guys can make custom ROM installers and such with very little effort. This will work until we have CWM.
Edit: Linux version thanks to JeepFreak! http://www.filefactory.com/file/58m4z62jgn51/n/linux-light-deodex_tar_gz
JeepFreak - This currently only works for the 1.72.X releases. It has not been successful on the leaked updates.

Downloading right now.
Will report back with results.
Edit: links are broken.

I click to download it, and says page not found
Oops, didn't realize previous poster had edited to say it.

Page Not Found
That page does not exist.

Will test this out as soon as links are back up. will report back for any issues.
Thanks kenn!!!

Will this work on the Rogers version too?
can i just install busybox from the market?

My bad folks! Links fixed. Just forgot an http://

equlizer said:
Will this work on the Rogers version too?
can i just install busybox from the market?
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It should work on a Rogers device, although you guys already have CWM (which is much easier/less messy). You can certainly install busybox through the market if you're rooted.

kennethpenn said:
My bad folks! Links fixed. Just forgot an http://
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Thanks. Download speeds are blazing fast.

Nice find

Deodex is a success.
Got the Android is upgrading screen.

Total noob here and had to look up what Deodex does. If this article is correct, then this is mostly just useful for theming? Otherwise what would be the benefit of this?

relic120 said:
Total noob here and had to look up what Deodex does. If this article is correct, then this is mostly just useful for theming? Otherwise what would be the benefit of this?
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Useful for theming and installing future modifications.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

hey ken if im on rogers this is going to give me that god awful at&t 4g logo isnt it?

SN4K3B1T3 said:
hey ken if im on rogers this is going to give me that god awful at&t 4g logo isnt it?
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yep, Im converting my rom to this. So be patient for another hour
EDIT: Currently testing the batch...

Worked perfectly!! Full deodex on at&t hox

how is deodexing a rom going to give you anything else than whats already on your rogers device?
So flash our CWM then this tool?

caution-
just a kind word of caution to fellow users:
the first time i ran this i got a soft brick, probably because i was already partially debloated.
however,
i flashed the stock RUU, rerooted, retried this program and it seems to have worked just fine. thanks for the tool!

kennethpenn said:
This tool will automatically deodex your AT&T One X if its rooted and has Busybox installed (one click root tool already does all of this for you). This should make it easier for folks to install modifications since we don't have a CWM .zip of deodexed files quite yet.
http://briefmobile.com/auto-deodex-tool-for-htc-one-x-att
Also, developers are encouraged to take a look at the batch commands. You guys can make custom ROM installers and such with very little effort. This will work until we have CWM.
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This added Bloat??? Also took away my internet app??? Help!

ealvinito said:
This added Bloat??? Also took away my internet app??? Help!
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The light deodex zip is the one you want for getting rid of bloat too.

CWM-flashable roms from the One X

Now that we have an unlocked bootloader and working recovery, has anyone successfully ported any of the roms from the international htc one x (tegra 3)? Feel free to post which rom you used and how it worked out for you.
DO NOT TRY AND FLASH THE BOOT.IMG FROM THE INTERNATIONAL HTC ONE X ROM. MAY RESULT IN SOFTBRICK

wrong section buddy

Yeah and I know no one is gonna read the general q&a. Besides we are all wanting immediate rom goodness

What? You can't flash a international rom. r u drunk
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expertzero1 said:
What? You can't flash a international rom. r u drunk
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I didn't say it was possible I asked has anyone tried to port one from the one x and you must be drunk if you can't read correctly

beeroatsnp90x said:
Now that we have an unlocked bootloader and working recovery, has anyone flashed any of the roms from the international htc one x (tegra 3)? I just tried Insert coin rom but it fails to install due to do mismatch in model id. I guess you could edit your build.prop to endeavor but I haven't tried it yet. Feel free to post which rom you used and how it worked out for you.
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beeroatsnp90x said:
I didn't say it was possible I asked has anyone tried to port one from the one x and you must be drunk if you can't read correctly
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I'm reading it and it says has anyone flashed, not ported. Lol

lol just make a backup in cwm. worst case scenario you have to restore like I did. Won't hurt to try.

Tiffany84 said:
I'm reading it and it says has anyone flashed, not ported. Lol
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Heh
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beeroatsnp90x said:
lol just make a backup in cwm. worst case scenario you have to restore like I did. Won't hurt to try.
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The international version has different hardware therefore their roms wil not work on our phone

beeroatsnp90x said:
Yeah and I know no one is gonna read the general q&a. Besides we are all wanting immediate rom goodness
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People read Q&A all the time. This is no reason to ignore the rules and clog up Development with random questions.

^^^^ you act like someone stole your cookie. stop crying like a baby about simple misplaced thread

So now i have an unlocked bootloader and i have CWM installed. If i were to use a RUU, the clean rom DE, would it remove CWM and put the stock one back on? Or would it leave CWM intact?

jason.hamilton said:
So now i have an unlocked bootloader and i have CWM installed. If i were to use a RUU, the clean rom DE, would it remove CWM and put the stock one back on? Or would it leave CWM intact?
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wait a day for a few roms. They're already out there, they just need to edit them a tad.

beeroatsnp90x said:
^^^^ you act like someone stole your cookie. stop crying like a baby about simple misplaced thread
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When you start calling people names, you are the one that appears immature and childish, no matter how correct you may be.
The problem is, though, you are not correct. Maybe it only appears as a "simple" mistake to you, probably because you don't care or haven't spent enough time in the forums, but for people who frequent XDA then it has become a cumulative nuisance.
Also, when the majority of users responding in the thread you started is either questioning the logic of your statement or placement of the thread then maybe you need to reflect on what you were trying to accomplish and maybe take into consideration how you can achieve better results in the future. Long story short, try to learn from your mistakes.

Okay, so, International One x won't be compatible because of hardware differences, but what about the One S roms? I just tried flashing the CM9 port for the S, and it flashed successfully but upon reboot the screen was just filled with green graphical glitches. Rebooting back into recovery and attempting to restore my backup of the stock system didn't work at all, so RUU for me... but, why wouldn't a One S ROM work? It has 99% of the same hardware... besides the qHD screen. I remember being able to flash a Droid 3 ROM to my bootloader-locked Atrix 2 and it booting up just fine. What's different here?

ShotSkydiver said:
Okay, so, International One x won't be compatible because of hardware differences, but what about the One S roms? I just tried flashing the CM9 port for the S, and it flashed successfully but upon reboot the screen was just filled with green graphical glitches. Rebooting back into recovery and attempting to restore my backup of the stock system didn't work at all, so RUU for me... but, why wouldn't a One S ROM work? It has 99% of the same hardware... besides the qHD screen. I remember being able to flash a Droid 3 ROM to my bootloader-locked Atrix 2 and it booting up just fine. What's different here?
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LTE radio for one. Probably some other minor differences too.

[MOD] No Banding - Dithered Holo Background - CWM

I have to sell my computer because I'm moving. I won't be able to make these for a while. They're very easy to do on your own though.
First, download this image and don't change its name.
This has probably been described a thousand times here, but I'm posting instructions for newcomers.
Steps:
1 - Extract ROM of your choice
2 - Navigate to /system/framework
3 - Using 7zip, open (don't extract) framework-res.apk
4 - Navigate to /res/drawable-nodpi/
5 - Drag background_holo_dark.png into the folder. It will replace the original
6 - Close 7zip window
7 - Using 7zip, open (don't extract) the original ROM download .zip
8 - Navigate to /system/framework
9 - Drag the edited framework-res.apk into that folder. It will replace the original
10 - Flash ROM
Using these instructions, you can take any .zip package made for Clockworkmod if you want to flash it after you install the ROM. Just delete folders except for meta-inf and drag a folder with the following directory structure into the .zip package: system/framework/framework-res.apk
That's it.
FLASH IN CLOCKWORKMOD -- ALWAYS BACK UP FIRST!!!!!!!!​
Credit to endursa for making the dithered background image
I took endursa's image and put it into a flashable zip for Clockworkmod. It worked fine on my device. YMMV
No more gross banding on the uninstall screen and wherever that background exists in the UI.
I know there was already a zip for this mod by KamikaZeeFu, but it didn't work on my stock (rooted, unlocked) AT&T One X because KamikaZeeFu built it for VillainTheme, so it didn't flash.
UPDATE: I'll add links for other ROMs, because if you flash one of these on a custom ROM it will likely screw things up.
This overwrites anything you have might have modified in framework-res.apk
For STOCK 1.82: http://www.mediafire.com/?k06sfrmg6fl498j
For STOCK 1.85: http://www.mediafire.com/?kwy2lk791ybeysn
For CleanROM 2.0 by scrosler: http://www.mediafire.com/?16calbhgkpbwzdx
For CleanROM 2.1 by scrosler: http://www.mediafire.com/?p1tazy2jta7zmta
For CleanROM 2.3 by scrosler: http://www.mediafire.com/?9nxfhn2920voz30
I CLAIM NO RESPONSIBILITY TO ANYTHING THAT GOES WRONG WITH YOUR DEVICE. FLASH AT YOUR OWN RISK!

Sitting at 1.73 I'm too scared to flash.. however these mods were great on my gnex. Good job!
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

ChongoDroid said:
Sitting at 1.73 I'm too scared to flash.. however these mods were great on my gnex. Good job!
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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I didn't do anything but put the image in the appropriate place. Check the link I put in the OP for the source. I'll update the OP to be more specific in giving credit.

Oh I wasn't implying anything, they simply took a higher rez image if my memory serves. Looked great on my nexus so I'm sure it'll look just as good on the hox
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ChongoDroid said:
Oh I wasn't implying anything, they simply took a higher rez image if my memory serves. Looked great on my nexus so I'm sure it'll look just as good on the hox
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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Oh ok.
If you're unlocked with clockworkmod, send me (well, upload it somewhere) the framework-res.apk from your phone and I'll add it if you want.

I planning to use the 1.82 one, do we have to be de-odex to flash this or can we flash it on stock? thanks.

NguyenHuu said:
I planning to use the 1.82 one, do we have to be de-odex to flash this or can we flash it on stock? thanks.
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I pulled the apk and flashed it back all on stock 1.82 and it worked for me. Everything is exactly the same as when it was pulled except for that one png file.

Great thanks, works as expected. something so simple can make such a big difference haha

NguyenHuu said:
Great thanks, works as expected. something so simple can make such a big difference haha
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+1

No problem.
And I totally agree. First of all, this should have been the image used in the stock build. Second, everyone who makes a custom ROM should consider including this image. Third, this image is used so often on the phone that it almost ruined the expericne for me before I found the original thread with that image in it. It's really easy to put this into any ROM, but if anyone is scared to mess with it, or just doesn't feel like it, let me know and I'll make more. I'll continue to make them until ROM cooks and developers start putting it in their ROMs.
Otherwise, there are tutorials for making/modifying your own flashable zips, but I can post a short tutorial later for any new people here. My daughter is using my computer to watch a movie right now.
I just finished a semester of learning C++. I'm going to try to learn Java over the summer to get a head start before next semester. Maybe I'll finally be able to contribute more in the near future. I've been saying that for almost two years... but I'm working on it.

jmattp said:
No problem.
And I totally agree. First of all, this should have been the image used in the stock build. Second, everyone who makes a custom ROM should consider including this image. Third, this image is used so often on the phone that it almost ruined the expericne for me before I found the original thread with that image in it. It's really easy to put this into any ROM, but if anyone is scared to mess with it, or just doesn't feel like it, let me know and I'll make more. I'll continue to make them until ROM cooks and developers start putting it in their ROMs.
Otherwise, there are tutorials for making/modifying your own flashable zips, but I can post a short tutorial later for any new people here. My daughter is using my computer to watch a movie right now.
I just finished a semester of learning C++. I'm going to try to learn Java over the summer to get a head start before next semester. Maybe I'll finally be able to contribute more in the near future. I've been saying that for almost two years... but I'm working on it.
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is it as simple as dragging and dropping the .PNG into systemui.apk? or do you have to decomplile and all that fancy stuff? Reason I ask is Cleanrom2.1 is release and has new changes so cant use the old one no more.

jmattp said:
Oh ok.
If you're unlocked with clockworkmod, send me (well, upload it somewhere) the framework-res.apk from your phone and I'll add it if you want.
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Hey that would be awesome! Cheers
http://db.tt/5lPQQSmw
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

NguyenHuu said:
is it as simple as dragging and dropping the .PNG into systemui.apk? or do you have to decomplile and all that fancy stuff? Reason I ask is Cleanrom2.1 is release and has new changes so cant use the old one no more.
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It goes in /system/framework/framework-res.apk/res/drawable-nodpi

jmattp said:
It goes in /system/framework/framework-res.apk/res/drawable-nodpi
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Just a normal drag and drop or do we need to decompile?

NguyenHuu said:
Just a normal drag and drop or do we need to decompile?
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Drag and drop
...into a flashable zip. I think you might run into problems doing it with a file explorer while the OS is running.
Or just put it in the ROM before you flash. That's what you're asking, right?

jmattp said:
Drag and drop
...into a flashable zip. I think you might run into problems doing it with a file explorer while the OS is running.
Or just put it in the ROM before you flash. That's what you're asking, right?
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yeah I did it via flashable zip, works fine, thanks.

ChongoDroid said:
Hey that would be awesome! Cheers
http://db.tt/5lPQQSmw
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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Link sent in a PM

jmattp said:
Link sent in a PM
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Worked great and looks awesome!
Here's a before and after for the folks that aren't quite sure what this does.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

Thanks for this fix!

After further use this mod seems to break CleanROM 2.1 reboot menu. Not sure about anything else.
I also am not sure if it has anything to do with CleanRom being deodexed.

[dump] system dump from vzw 4.4.4

Here is a sytem dump from my rooted pure ota 4.4.4 vzw i got it for myself to use.. But i figured i would share it with anyone that needs or wants to use it..
Feel free to use this as a base for a rom or feel free to grab files for your rom or if you need any apks etc ALL I ASK FOR IS PROPER CREDIT :highfive:
THIS IS NOT A flashable file this is mostly for devs an a few others
DOWNLOAD
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95747613655049433

Did the update lock your boot loader or give you s-on? Was thinking about taking the ota but I didn't want to lose my boot loader unlock

Awesome! Now I just need a stock, rooted ROM and I'll be all set!

jake.99x3 said:
Did the update lock your boot loader or give you s-on? Was thinking about taking the ota but I didn't want to lose my boot loader unlock
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No. I have never seen any HTC Update do that.

jake.99x3 said:
Did the update lock your boot loader or give you s-on? Was thinking about taking the ota but I didn't want to lose my boot loader unlock
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i could care less if the relocked my bootloader as long as i have s-off an like scott said i never seen that but someone has to roll the dice lol...if some crazy way the ran the lock cmd i know someone close that has a java card so i would be back to s-off real fast...as i used java card to s-off my last 2 phones:highfive:

riot1031 said:
Awesome! Now I just need a stock, rooted ROM and I'll be all set!
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i'm sure someone will drop a stock rom real fast..this makes it lil easier for them. eventually i will be dropping firmware an a stock rom. i just dont get much help from others when i ask so i'll get there soon..maybe i can make one for this ota im only stuck on one part once i figure out that i'll be good...i thought i found my answer with kitchen so i was going to set it up but i was told that isn't supported anymore so there went that. back to google some more lol

Tigerstown said:
Here is a sytem dump from my rooted pure ota 4.4.4 vzw i got it for myself to use.. But i figured i would share it with anyone that needs or wants to use it..
Feel free to use this as a base for a rom or feel free to grab files for your rom or if you need any apks etc ALL I ASK FOR IS PROPER CREDIT :highfive:
THIS IS NOT A flashable file this is mostly for devs an a few others
DOWNLOAD
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95747613655049433
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Thanks for this. I linked this to the InsertCoin thread so us VZW people can get some love from those guys...props for the upload, sir! :good:

Tigerstown said:
i'm sure someone will drop a stock rom real fast..this makes it lil easier for them. eventually i will be dropping firmware an a stock rom. i just dont get much help from others when i ask so i'll get there soon..maybe i can make one for this ota im only stuck on one part once i figure out that i'll be good...i thought i found my answer with kitchen so i was going to set it up but i was told that isn't supported anymore so there went that. back to google some more lol
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Yeah, I think Scott or santod had one up quick last time.

riot1031 said:
Yeah, I think Scott or santod had one up quick last time.
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[ROM][10/22/14] - Stock Rooted - VZW OTA 3.28.605.4 - WP removed - BusyBox and Root
Still uploading... But its all done. Used my own system dump

Tigerstown said:
i'm sure someone will drop a stock rom real fast..this makes it lil easier for them. eventually i will be dropping firmware an a stock rom. i just dont get much help from others when i ask so i'll get there soon..maybe i can make one for this ota im only stuck on one part once i figure out that i'll be good...i thought i found my answer with kitchen so i was going to set it up but i was told that isn't supported anymore so there went that. back to google some more lol
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You have never asked me for help
I help everyone that asks. Either on my site or here.

Scott, you are the man!!

scrosler said:
[ROM][10/22/14] - Stock Rooted - VZW OTA 3.28.605.4 - WP removed - BusyBox and Root
Still uploading... But its all done. Used my own system dump
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I know you did. Someone of your skill don't need this lol.

Tigerstown said:
I know you did. Someone of your skill don't need this lol.
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If you ever need help you can always PM me. I help a LOT of people.

scrosler said:
You have never asked me for help
I help everyone that asks. Either on my site or here.
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I sure haven't ask you maybe ill head over to your site an throw a question at you.:highfive:

deleted, wrong thread !!

thanks for this tigerstown im going to try and work some themeing magic with this while I wait on you and rolands ROM to upload