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[Possible DEFECT] UPDATE! (Sep. 16, 2011) Touchscreen Responsiveness Issues

Ok I've been meaning to make this thread for a while now but held off on it assuming it was just my phone, or maybe even just a small batch of phones. But now that I have noticed a lot of people having the same problem as mine the I feel that it should definitely be addressed and hopefully more people will be more aware of it.
Basically the problem is with the touchscreen while I am typing. Certain keys will just "lock" up and become unresponsive. The most noticeable key would be the "Delete" key. It won't work and would be completely unresponsive, only way it will come back in working form is if I just simply wait, or close/re-open the keyboard. Other keys get affected as well, such as other vowels and the letter "O" is prominent as well. But pretty much almost every key gets affected here and there, the "delete" key is just the most prominent and happens more than the others.
Now the obvious first act would be to pin-point the problem. Various possibilities would be:
- Keyboards fault
- Kernel/ROM's fault
- Or if it's just a manufacture defect
First I thought it was just the stock Android KB's problem, so I'e literally tried almost every mainstream KB out there in the market such as:
- SmartKeyboard Pro
- SwiftKey X
- Flex T9
- Swype
- HTC's Touch Input
- Go Keyboard
And with all of those I still experience the problem. So I counted out the possibility of the KB being the cause of the problem. So then i figured it was the ROM itself, but I've tried numerous ROM's such as Virtual Fusion, Virtual Unity, speedDEMON MIUI, CM7 and it's numerous RC's/Nightly's. And the problem still persisted with all of those ROM's.
The only ROM's I know it doesn't happen on is Royal Ginger 2.1 and the stock T-Mobile mySense build. Also I've had other MT4G's in the past that did not have this problem on any ROM.
That confused me as now I can't tell if the problem is software or hardware related.
Thus, I called TMO for a warranty exchange. The phone I had where the problem happened was good screen with BAD eMMC chip. The new one I just received is good screen with GOOD eMMC. With my new phone the problem still persists.
So basically I would just like to get to the bottom of this problem and see if anyone else is having this problem, and if so please post your issue here as well. I would really like to know if this is just maybe a kernel issue with the latest MT4G kernels that are out, or if it's just another one of the plethora of hardware problems that haunts the MT4G.
====UPDATE====
Okay, so there seems so have been a fix floating around for this and it was DEFINITELY not what I had expected. Credit goes to the dude that found it and for jberg22 for bringing it to the attention in this thread. Here is the thread that you can read up on. I'm not sure if it's a 100% fix but it has been a fix for some. Try it and let us know what your results are! It would be nice to know if this has worked for people with this problem. Here's a picture of what it looks like on our MT4G thanks to Mathato!

Glad you decided to post about this. Since more and more people are having touchscreen issues, it's definitely becoming a problem. The mystery is why the problem occurs on all ROMs except for RG. Hopefully more people will post here with their issues and we can get this thing nailed down!

TeeJay3800 said:
Glad you decided to post about this. Since more and more people are having touchscreen issues, it's definitely becoming a problem. The mystery is why the problem occurs on all ROMs except for RG. Hopefully more people will post here with their issues and we can get this thing nailed down!
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I had that problem with my first mytouch 4g and then ended up bricking it trying to unroot it...but i've never had a problem with this one.

never had any problems like this before... did it happen over time? or immediately after you flashed the ROM?

saranhai said:
never had any problems like this before... did it happen over time? or immediately after you flashed the ROM?
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Pretty much after a day I started to notice it with VU. But it's usually instant.

I've been complaining about this for a while. Since it doesn't happen on stock rom I don't know wtf to think.
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I've definitely seen this,
Some keys lock,
The answer button when receiving a call,
The pull down bar not sticking, for example able to grab it but once sliding it down an inch it goes right back up.
All this on ONLY VU.
No other ROM does this to me, but I stick with it because I love unity!
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I wonder if this is happening on 2.3.4 builds only?

my2sense said:
I wonder if this is happening on 2.3.4 builds only?
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I'm assuming the ota 2.3.4 doesn't have this issue?
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Phateless said:
I'm assuming the ota 2.3.4 doesn't have this issue?
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Good question. I have yet to try the official TMO OTA ROM. But I would assume the problem would disappear in that build. I'll probably flash it to check one day.
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If there's at least one build that doesn't have this bug (and which happens to be the original build) - it means that it's SW issue.

Jack_R1 said:
If there's at least one build that doesn't have this bug (and which happens to be the original build) - it means that it's SW issue.
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I agree. I went back to stock, almost hoping to see the issue appear again, but it didn't.

Jack_R1 said:
If there's at least one build that doesn't have this bug (and which happens to be the original build) - it means that it's SW issue.
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I would tend to think so too, but I've run VU since the day it was released with no issues, yet Mackster can't run that ROM because he's unable to type. I think it's possible that within the MT4G production run, there are slight H/W differences somewhere within the phone's internals. I mean, the problem occurs on almost every ROM for him (everything except RG). The problem seems a little more complex than a simple ROM bug.

This happens on my phone as well. Thought it was just me... it didn't happen on stock mySense, or RoyalGinger 2.1. I'm currently running RoyalGinger 3.0 & it hasn't happened yet. It DOES/DID occur on CM7 (nightly & stables), MIUI, Virtuous unity & virtuous fusion ...
I currently have a mt4g with the good screen & bad eMMC chip...
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cbutt said:
This happens on my phone as well. Thought it was just me... it didn't happen on stock mySense, or RoyalGinger 2.1. I'm currently running RoyalGinger 3.0 & it hasn't happened yet. It DOES/DID occur on CM7 (nightly & stables), MIUI, Virtuous unity & virtuous fusion ...
I currently have a mt4g with the good screen & bad eMMC chip...
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God damn dude, same exact situation as me. What are the odds?? Lol. Weird ain't it?
I have a new phone now with good eMMC and it doesn't happen nearly as much, but still happens a little.

mackster248 said:
God damn dude, same exact situation as me. What are the odds?? Lol. Weird ain't it?
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I don't think it's chance. I think we're onto something here. On phones that have the touchscreen typing problem, it occurs on every ROM except for stock and RoyalGinger. So the question is, what's different about RG? What does it have in common with the stock OTA ROM?

I believe RoyalGinger should be considered stock for this discussion - because it's based on stock.
The pattern you're pointing to might mean that there are indeed some HW differences within MT4G production run, that are accounted for by the stock drivers, but aren't accounted for by other drivers.

Jack_R1 said:
I believe RoyalGinger should be considered stock for this discussion - because it's based on stock.
The pattern you're pointing to might mean that there are indeed some HW differences within MT4G production run, that are accounted for by the stock drivers, but aren't accounted for by other drivers.
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How is it based on stock btw? Because isn't RG pretty much like 99% CM7? And I think he said his kernel is based off of Zinx's?

Jack_R1 said:
I believe RoyalGinger should be considered stock for this discussion - because it's based on stock.
The pattern you're pointing to might mean that there are indeed some HW differences within MT4G production run, that are accounted for by the stock drivers, but aren't accounted for by other drivers.
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I think you're thinking of RoyalGlacier, which is based on mySense. RoyalGinger is an AOSP-type CM7-based ROM. I think you're right that this issue may be driver related. It'd be nice to figure out what's different about the stock and RG drivers, compared to all other ROM's hardware drivers.

TeeJay3800 said:
I think you're thinking of RoyalGlacier, which is based on mySense. RoyalGinger is an AOSP-type CM7-based ROM. I think you're right that this issue may be driver related. It'd be nice to figure out what's different about the stock and RG drivers, compared to all other ROM's hardware drivers.
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I think for the purpose of testing we should roll back to a 2.3.3 build of cm7, because I never noticed this until a couple months ago.
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Total Disappointment

I got to say that even with all of the great development here this phone has been overly disappointing..
This is my Wife's phone I use an SGS II. I was going to keep it stock but she was complaining about it locking up occasionally and poor battery life. So i rooted and have had her try out several roms of several flavors, sense 3.0 and 3.5 gingerbread of all sorts, and different kernels and all.. It seems no matter the combo the general use of the device seem sluggish at times.
Her biggest complaint is how sometimes she needs to pull for the notification bar 3 or 4 times before it will pull down.. Whats crazy is non of these issues are present at first, usually do not show for a few days.
I at first thought it was the set up but after so many mixes of different things i checked that off, then i thought it was an app but i had her go for a few days without installing anything and it eventually still happened..
I have decided it either the device just plain sucks or its the sense garbage clogging it up..
Any good ASOP rom recommendations?
Or any recommendations at all? Maybe someone else who had had issues with this device and who has found happiness could point me in a good rom kernel combo for this POS...
Sorry had to vent.. and any help would be great..

No problems whatsoever on the ROM I'm running. Did you make sure to superwipe in between each ROM flash?

Ngo93 said:
No problems whatsoever on the ROM I'm running. Did you make sure to superwipe in between each ROM flash?
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Yes Superwipe is my friend. Honestly It could just be that this device is just not as good as her G2 which she now wants to go back to lmao.. but whatever..

PJcastaldo said:
I got to say that even with all of the great development here this phone has been overly disappointing..
This is my Wife's phone I use an SGS II. I was going to keep it stock but she was complaining about it locking up occasionally and poor battery life. So i rooted and have had her try out several roms of several flavors, sense 3.0 and 3.5 gingerbread of all sorts, and different kernels and all.. It seems no matter the combo the general use of the device seem sluggish at times.
Her biggest complaint is how sometimes she needs to pull for the notification bar 3 or 4 times before it will pull down.. Whats crazy is non of these issues are present at first, usually do not show for a few days.
I at first thought it was the set up but after so many mixes of different things i checked that off, then i thought it was an app but i had her go for a few days without installing anything and it eventually still happened..
I have decided it either the device just plain sucks or its the sense garbage clogging it up..
Any good ASOP rom recommendations?
Or any recommendations at all? Maybe someone else who had had issues with this device and who has found happiness could point me in a good rom kernel combo for this POS...
Sorry had to vent.. and any help would be great..
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No one else seams to have these problems i get no lag what so ever but if your looking for a good AOSP Gingerbread ROM have you tried Cyanogen Mod 7????? or eve MIUI as far as ICS ROM i like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1408351

have you tried swapping/formatting your SD card?
other than that, it sounds like you've tried everything...you may just have a bung handset...your problems are not common

I was having some of the same problems. No matter what Rom/kernel combo I had there were bugs. I went back to stock and voila... Smooth as butter. I guess the updates tmo released really fixed all of the problems I had when I first purchased the sensation. I suggest you try it out.
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I have been using sensation for 4+ months now. Yes the stock ROM is buggy but definitely not as bad as you are experiencing. I rooted and install custom ROM after one week stock ROM usage. May be you can try by 1) factory reset if not fixed then 2) format or new memory card.
All Gingerbread based ROM's are pretty good in terms of feature, performance and stability. For starters you can try insertcoin or android revolution HD. I would not recommend ICS based ROM since they are still work in progress kind of mode. Though most of the things will work with ICS ROM, looking at your frustrating experience I would recommend only GB based ROMs.
All The Best!

Faulty handset.
Get it replaced/fixed.

Never have I experienced any of these issues with my Sensation.
I use ARHD 3.6.x since day 1 and it's still as smooth as butter.
I use Daemon controller to take the CPU down to 1GHz.
I have many many apps installed and have nearly filled the internal memory with a few apps on the SD too.
I have removed a few system apps using root. What accounts are you using on the device? I have heard that a sense account can be a bit of a drain on battery and resources.
Phil

sromer said:
Faulty handset.
Get it replaced/fixed.
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I'd agree.
All of symptoms "pull for the notification bar 3 or 4 times before it will pull down.. Whats crazy is non of these issues are present at first, usually do not show for a few days. " are VERY similar to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239238
There was another link 150+ pages relating to it but can't that one. Anyway, get it replaced.

I think because her nails are long

I had a lot of sluggishness with stock but now I'm using MIUI and it's really smooth and is better on batt life w/o all that stock bloat nonsense. I don't know why I waited so long to root. Every now and then I have issues pulling the status bar but I figure it's just my finger placement or another app is running a task and hogging the CPU for a sec.
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AngrySalad said:
I had a lot of sluggishness with stock but now I'm using MIUI and it's really smooth and is better on batt life w/o all that stock bloat nonsense. I don't know why I waited so long to root. Every now and then I have issues pulling the status bar but I figure it's just my finger placement or another app is running a task and hogging the CPU for a sec.
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Honestly though with a dual core device you should be able to pull the notification bar down at will.. at least my SGS II has never done this..
bomczz said:
I think because her nails are long
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LMAO I actually thought this at first.. but it did it to be too.
animaleyes76 said:
I'd agree.
All of symptoms "pull for the notification bar 3 or 4 times before it will pull down.. Whats crazy is non of these issues are present at first, usually do not show for a few days. " are VERY similar to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239238
There was another link 150+ pages relating to it but can't that one. Anyway, get it replaced.
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This maybe a possibility that she has a faulty touchscreen making it seem to be laggy when infact its not..
Thank you guys for so many responses im going to have her try an ASOP rom like CM7 and see if it helps if not maybe ill get it replaced..

My sensation is sluggish on the stock rom. It operates very smooth on cm7 alpha #10 and the latest miui which i am sporting at the moment. Do u use titanium backup at all in her phone. Ive read some shiz bout TB.
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I got the same problem. Takes couple tries to unlock the phone, some on-screen keyboard keys are not responding, notification bar not coming down. It was very annoying and frustrating. But all the problems are gone once I installed CM7/MIUI.

DDeveryday said:
I got the same problem. Takes couple tries to unlock the phone, some on-screen keyboard keys are not responding, notification bar not coming down. It was very annoying and frustrating. But all the problems are gone once I installed CM7/MIUI.
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Well shes not home from work yet and im going to class tonight, but I will be putting her on CM7 especially after reading your comment.

I think your phone (hardware) is defected. Get a replacement. I run many of the custom ROM for the past few months and none of them have the problem you described. Good luck.

sumasage said:
I think your phone (hardware) is defected. Get a replacement. I run many of the custom ROM for the past few months and none of them have the problem you described. Good luck.
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I really think that you guys are just used to a less than smooth experience. and i don't mean this in a bad way. I have not only been exposed to my wife's Sensation but the weird dude upstairs Sensation >though its stock< is slow and choppy and has horrible battery life as well.. just saying its bad when when you take her G2 running a sense 3.0 rom and put it next to the Sensation running a similar rom and the older device is running it better..
OK, So after trying out the CM7 build and now Hypersensation I am going to say even without waiting <but the next few days will tell> sense is what really hinders this phones performance. Totally 1000% more responsive than ANY Sense rom i have had on this device.. still not up to par where i feel it should be but much nicer..

Ok if shes still in cm7 just leave it dont overclock it. Give it a few charges to settle. Everything should work smooth except the video camera. Glad i could help u.
PJcastaldo said:
I really think that you guys are just used to a less than smooth experience. and i don't mean this in a bad way. I have not only been exposed to my wife's Sensation but the weird dude upstairs Sensation >though its stock< is slow and choppy and has horrible battery life as well.. just saying its bad when when you take her G2 running a sense 3.0 rom and put it next to the Sensation running a similar rom and the older device is running it better..
OK, So after trying out the CM7 build and now Hypersensation I am going to say even without waiting <but the next few days will tell> sense is what really hinders this phones performance. Totally 1000% more responsive than ANY Sense rom i have had on this device.. still not up to par where i feel it should be but much nicer..
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If she doesnt like cm7 give the latest miui a go. Everything works great. Only bug ive noticed is the wifi likes to turn on by itself once in awhile so keep an eye on it if u try miui. Ive came over from a nexus s and comparing both phones id say the sensation is a hair better plus the build quality is much much better.
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Touchscreen responsiveness

I had read all the post, and tried all those method. But it seems didn't help.
After updating to official GB, the touchscreen turns intolerably unresponsive. I used to use my tips to unlock the pattern but now I have to press harder. Further more, when I use swype, a lot of times it would lost the touch in the middle of a word.
I read others and find the similar problem, has anyone be able to fix it?
I really like gingerbread, for I no longer need to put the task killer in my default screen, and the status bar is much better.
Thanks

reactorcooler said:
I had read all the post, and tried all those method. But it seems didn't help.
After updating to official GB, the touchscreen turns intolerably unresponsive. I used to use my tips to unlock the pattern but now I have to press harder. Further more, when I use swype, a lot of times it would lost the touch in the middle of a word.
I read others and find the similar problem, has anyone be able to fix it?
I really like gingerbread, for I no longer need to put the task killer in my default screen, and the status bar is much better.
Thanks
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Umm root and Zeus?? That will fix your touchscreen problems... I know because I am using it right
now.
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It seems that a lot of people is talking about the issue now. I'm just wondering if it's the problem of my phone or the rom.

Erik_T said:
Umm root and Zeus?? That will fix your touchscreen problems... I know because I am using it right
now.
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It seems that a lot of people is talking about the issue now. I'm just wondering if it's the problem of my phone or the rom.

reactorcooler said:
It seems that a lot of people is talking about the issue now. I'm just wondering if it's the problem of my phone or the rom.
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I'd you're on official Zeus then I do believe that it is the rom. Havent had a touchwcreen problem with my phone and I never went to official gb. Try Zeus. It won't take that long... you will be happy. Promise. Battery is fantastic. I doubt that Samsung made a better rom...
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The Canadian GB version (ROGERS) doesn't seem to have any sort of touchscreen problem. Was the AT&T update recent? Maybe they messed something up (after taking how long to release it?)

hardslog said:
The Canadian GB version (ROGERS) doesn't seem to have any sort of touchscreen problem. Was the AT&T update recent? Maybe they messed something up (after taking how long to release it?)
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the Canadian version downgrades video recording and doesn't HDMI.
Might as well as flash one the uclk2 based rom here. It'll still be a step up.
Really, imo, Victory, Numas, Zeus are at the pinnacle of what gb as to offer.
If you want hdmi, run Victory, and still retain root.

I haven't tried official gb and I haven't noticed any touchscreen issues
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I was on stock UCKL2. I also feel issue of screen unresponsive many times. Specially after ending a phone call.
Yesterday i just flashed the Heimdall One-Click Return to Stock UCLB3. Phone seems more smooth now.
Thanks
Nits

B3 is a better leak. Try some of the B3 roms are now available. You will see and feel the difference
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Erik_T said:
Umm root and Zeus?? That will fix your touchscreen problems... I know because I am using it right
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R3VOLUTION is also a very good ROM.
I used to use Serendipity, and was too lazy to change, but after installing R3VOLUTION my phone feels like it's a new device. Its performance has improved markedly.

[Q] Best debloated mt4gs ICS Rom that works 100%?

1-) Sick of GB and Im not a huge Sence fan, although I can live with it if needed... Is JB possible? Working 100%?
2-) HBOOT 1.45.0013, S-ON, & I don't really feel like doing any wiretrick, although I will if needed, is this still the best way to go?
edit #1: CM9 installed! (flashed boot.img with fastboot), back button doesnt work on front of phone.. researching..

Wipe dalvik, wipe cache then flash Gapps. That's fixed it in several instances.

Or use jellybam or pacman
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Whoareyou said:
Or use jellybam or pacman
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Eh he wants ICS not JellyBean. I may go on a scattered search to see if either ROM has an ICS counterpart though
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Eh he wants ICS not JellyBean. I may go on a scattered search to see if either ROM has an ICS counterpart though
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Trying JellyBAM. Camera crashes the phone when flash goes off (although flashlight works fine). My corporate mail/calendar account also can't access the right security settings, so I'm crippled for work purposes. If you use these features, consider something other than JellyBAM.
Tried PACman but switched. Don't recall why, now. Maybe I'll try it again. . . .

greowulf said:
Trying JellyBAM. Camera crashes the phone when flash goes off (although flashlight works fine). My corporate mail/calendar account also can't access the right security settings, so I'm crippled for work purposes. If you use these features, consider something other than JellyBAM.
Tried PACman but switched. Don't recall why, now. Maybe I'll try it again. . . .
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PACman and JellyBAM have the same base and kernel so you will have the same issues connecting to work email.
I've seen other users post this about the camera flash crashing things, but I was never able to recreate it. So I just summed it up to an improper wipe/flash. No one has offered any kind of logs either to go along with said crashes, but that's not saying it will help because again we can't recreate these issues during testing.
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sheybklyn said:
1-) Sick of GB and Im not a huge Sence fan, although I can live with it if needed... Is JB possible? Working 100%?
2-) HBOOT 1.45.0013, S-ON, & I don't really feel like doing any wiretrick, although I will if needed, is this still the best way to go?
edit #1: CM9 installed! (flashed boot.img with fastboot), back button doesnt work on front of phone.. researching..
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MT4GS ICS ROM that works 100%? It doesn't exist.

Scverhagen's CM9.1 releases have far fewer issues in my opinion than the MyTouch Stock gingerbread 2.3.4. I'm still running r7.

davidf9 said:
Scverhagen's CM9.1 releases have far fewer issues in my opinion than the MyTouch Stock gingerbread 2.3.4. I'm still running r7.
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Inaccurate exaggeration is nobody's friend. It's a nice ROM, sure, but saying it has less issues than stock? You just lost any further credibility.

Happens to be my opinion based on my own personal experience however. And will remain so.

I'm kinda like you david, I consider a ROM 100% when it runs 100% of the things I have to have or need. I realize it can't be like that for everyone but for those that it is, it allows a person to enjoy WAY more ROMs. JMO.....

WeekendsR2Short said:
I'm kinda like you david, I consider a ROM 100% when it runs 100% of the things I have to have or need. I realize it can't be like that for everyone but for those that it is, it allows a person to enjoy WAY more ROMs. JMO.....
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But when I read reviews of a ROM, maybe I'm wanting to try it but trying to determine what things other people are encountering. Someone who says, "This ROM is perfect! Everything works!" but then I find out that, no, everything doesn't work and even they later admit that "some things aren't working but I can overlook that", well, that totally invalidates the entire thread. How am I to trust anything that person writes about anything else? Yes, we have subjective opinions about ROMs, but it does nobody any favor to exaggerate the abilities of a ROM. If you tell me a ROM is perfect and "better than stock", then I have some extra high expectations.

I understand completely. But there is more to a declaration of perfection than the statement itself. It would depend on who makes it and their knowledge of different ROMs but to me it just means it's damn close. I usually find out the details when I run it myself. That's when I'm reminded that nothing is perfect. Even the original developers don't distribute perfection and there is a HUGE well paid team of them.
I can appreciate anyone's expectations of a shared original ROM or a port to be one of perfection but that usually means the person with those expectations just doesn't realize all that's involved. People have to remember that this is more a personally fulfilling "hobby" than their vocation.

My biggest frustration is people wanting something that works 100%. Compared to what? Stock? Half the time the "Stock" ROMs have their own issues. That's why we root and ROM, to improve the experience over Stock.
What features do you want? What's your opinion of 100%? Sense? AOSP?
Hell, even the title of the thread isn't 100% accurate. There isn't an official ICS ROM, so there can't be a debloated version. And the word "Best" implies that there are at least 2 ICS Roms that work 100%....
[/Rant]
(Crap, I obviously need more sleep over the weekends....)

Weekends are too short ya know.

Fuzi0719 said:
MT4GS ICS ROM that works 100%? It doesn't exist.
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Exactly This.
In even the best ICS "closest to what factory would be" ROM I've found (Virtuous Primadonna), 1080p recording, WiFi calling, and tethering were borked. To me 100% means 100% as in all options the phone came with work and not having options taken away.
MikTouch is still the best I've found. Once the Xperia ZL drop for purchase I'm bailing on my MT4GS. I absolutely love this phone, but I hate HTC with a burning of a thousand suns for bailing on this phone which was supposed to be a flagship device.

WangChung81 said:
Exactly This.
In even the best ICS "closest to what factory would be" ROM I've found (Virtuous Primadonna), 1080p recording, WiFi calling, and tethering were borked. To me 100% means 100% as in all options the phone came with work and not having options taken away.
MikTouch is still the best I've found. Once the Xperia ZL drop for purchase I'm bailing on my MT4GS. I absolutely love this phone, but I hate HTC with a burning of a thousand suns for bailing on this phone which was supposed to be a flagship device.
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wifi calling works on ALL ics roms. there is a workaround for tethering involving barnacle and open garden. so that leaves 1080p recording

mattlowry said:
wifi calling works on ALL ics roms.
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News to me. Last I read a week ago when I looked into it T-Mobs app still wasn't working correctly

WangChung81 said:
News to me. Last I read a week ago when I looked into it T-Mobs app still wasn't working correctly
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Did you flash the wifi calling patch and push gan optimizer.apk to system apps?
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How to upgrade the LG G2x P999 to Android 4.1.1 JB via CyanogenMod 10 (Unofficial)

Hi All!
Recently, while surfing through the ocean of ROMs for my LG G2X P999, I came across this ROM. Couldn't find any link related to this on XDA. So thought of pointing the G2X owners to this link:
http://www.androidauthority.com/g2x-p999-t-mobile-cyanogenmod-10-cm10-unofficial-115536/
Flashed it just yesterday. Apart from the Video-recording did not notice any bugs so far. In fact I haven't used it enough to comment on bugs. But I can confirm that Calls and Wifi are both working fine.
If any one knows any prior publication of this work on XDA; please let me know so we can avoid duplicates.

Hackfest in development section.
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Wifi calling probably does not work
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Pain-N-Panic said:
Wifi calling probably does not work
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It doesn't,
I can't get it to work on anything that is not CM7 based.

Kinda blows that our phone is limited to cm7. I love cm7 as it is treating me well, but selection is always a nice privilege
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nagenderjeet said:
Hi All!
Recently, while surfing through the ocean of ROMs for my LG G2X P999, I came across this ROM. Couldn't find any link related to this on XDA. So thought of pointing the G2X owners to this link:
http://www.androidauthority.com/g2x-p999-t-mobile-cyanogenmod-10-cm10-unofficial-115536/
Flashed it just yesterday. Apart from the Video-recording did not notice any bugs so far. In fact I haven't used it enough to comment on bugs. But I can confirm that Calls and Wifi are both working fine.
If any one knows any prior publication of this work on XDA; please let me know so we can avoid duplicates.
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so data is working? i thought the data or radio was still broken. does this mean we may get a somewhat stable build of JB?

Still a hackfest.
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Pain-N-Panic said:
Kinda blows that our phone is limited to cm7. I love cm7 as it is treating me well, but selection is always a nice privilege
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I tried a couple different versions of CM7 over the past few days, and its nothing but a nightmare. It will run flawlessly for hours and then something quirky will happen and I either cant get data, or cant make calls, or my screen locks up, and im rebooting the phone or looking for a fix on google. Wound up just going back to the stock rom with faux123 kernel.

Spawne32 said:
I tried a couple different versions of CM7 over the past few days, and its nothing but a nightmare. It will run flawlessly for hours and then something quirky will happen and I either cant get data, or cant make calls, or my screen locks up, and im rebooting the phone or looking for a fix on google. Wound up just going back to the stock rom with faux123 kernel.
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Well the problem is that other developers take the vanilla cm7 code and tweak/mod the hell out of it which is always awesome but they put out an unstable build/ROM. If you haven't tried vanilla CM7.2 from get.cm (latest build) then you're missing out. I have had the ROM installed running with mazout's latest kernel for over a week now and its been running extremely well. All and any problems that I experienced with this setup were directly due to ignorance and human error as I'm still a flaming n00b. At the same time they were great learning experiences and easily fixed.

Spawne32 said:
I tried a couple different versions of CM7 over the past few days, and its nothing but a nightmare. It will run flawlessly for hours and then something quirky will happen and I either cant get data, or cant make calls, or my screen locks up, and im rebooting the phone or looking for a fix on google. Wound up just going back to the stock rom with faux123 kernel.
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The problem is going to lie in your setup somewhere.
Maybe kernel level as it is known that some G2xs will run great on Trinity but crash on Faux and vice versa. That's just a quick example.
I've run vanilla CM7 for like 13 months now and do not encounter the issues you are describing.
Soooo...what's your setup.
ROM w/build date
Kernel and version
Baseband date
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Data does work
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so data is working? i thought the data or radio was still broken. does this mean we may get a somewhat stable build of JB?
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Data does work but there is issue related to rapid battery drain. Back to my stock ROM. This hasn't been updated since a long time. I wonder if any developer at all is working on this phone or not!

nagenderjeet said:
Data does work but there is issue related to rapid battery drain. Back to my stock ROM. This hasn't been updated since a long time. I wonder if any developer at all is working on this phone or not!
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You are late to the party... This device is a dying device. There's 1 dev working on a CM7 Kernel and that's about it. More than likely we will never see fully working 4.1.1 or higher on our device. They tried real hard and are some talented people (our devs), but LG handed them a broken pile of excrement and said, "here you go... Jellybeans!!"...

New2my8125 said:
You are late to the party... This device is a dying device. There's 1 dev working on a CM7 Kernel and that's about it. More than likely we will never see fully working 4.1.1 or higher on our device. They tried real hard and are some talented people (our devs), but LG handed them a broken pile of excrement and said, "here you go... Jellybeans!!"...
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That's almost all true! I have another old phone, Mytouch4g/HTC Glacier. On that one I am running 4.2.2 and there is a lot of development still on. Huge number of ROMs which can be used as daily drivers. But here we don't even have a perfectly working 4.0.4. But again, no complain to Developers. they have tried really hard with a lot of time invested in this device. All the blame on LG.
This phone is lightning fast on 2.3.X variants. still very much usable. I may be late to the party, but the party is yet not over

I just want to chime in that I used this and the phone is working. The camera seems slower (and therefore more blurry). Other than that everything that I use (I do not use bluetooth, tethering, or wi-fi calling) is working. It's about the same speed as CM7 I had on here before. Don't know about battery since I only just did it.
If anyone knows any tricks for the camera please share. I babysit a toddler and his face is often blurry in photos. I'm pretty sure with this new ROM it will be even more blurred. I have already removed the plastic cover over the camera lens, it's not that issue. This is clearly software as it has gotten slower with this ROM.

We thought we might have a jellybean breakthrough when cm started deving cm10.1 on the p990 and had the courtesy of posting a half port of their work in progress. I believe it's called AdamPK's cm10.1 and is usually found with Mazout360 kernel. Hardware Acceleration Work so no camera, camcorder, sluggish or other problems that plagued the hackfests but they ran into and issue with the radio because O2x and G2x use different radio chips. So you have wifi but no data and battery can't be read correctly but other than that it would be as close to a perfect 4.x as we could get.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1977573