[Q] Ridiculous battery usage - General Questions and Answers

Hey there.
Two days ago I bought an android-based Sony Walkman (NWZ-Z1060) and I had an interesting problem with it.
When I got, the first thing I did was an upgrade to ICS 4.0.4.
First of all, when I charge it, the battery NEVER reaches 100%, the maximum charge level for the battery is ALWAYS 98%, and when it reaches this value it says 'Fully Charged.'
But this isn't the problem. Once I disconnect it from the charging source (either PC or AC Adapter), the battery goes from 98% to zero in about eight hours.
Funny that while the battery drains (no music playing, no Wi-Fi, the device is simply in standby, with the LCD turned off) the device is extremely hot, which makes me think there is some CPU/GPU-heavy process running in the background.
I haven't installed ANY application yet, nothing should be running in background.
What do you think it's causing this massive battery drain?

Its happened to me once
Try to make factory rest first then if this problem still exist flash your Rom again.
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[Q] Battery Lag?

Hey guys, I have a problem with my Sensation. Whenever I fully charge it and then remove it from the charger, use it for like an hour or two, the phone still thinks the battery is 100% charged. When looking inside the battery usage, it shows the graph with 0s underneath it, while in the previous screen where you see the apps battery usage it says 2h 5m 13s or something like that.
This wouldn't really be a problem, but when I started up Maps Navigation and plugged the charger in the car, it wouldn't charge because it still assumed the battery was 100% charged!
Any of you also having this problem? Thanks in advance!
atticus182 said:
Hey guys, I have a problem with my Sensation. Whenever I fully charge it and then remove it from the charger, use it for like an hour or two, the phone still thinks the battery is 100% charged. When looking inside the battery usage, it shows the graph with 0s underneath it, while in the previous screen where you see the apps battery usage it says 2h 5m 13s or something like that.
This wouldn't really be a problem, but when I started up Maps Navigation and plugged the charger in the car, it wouldn't charge because it still assumed the battery was 100% charged!
Any of you also having this problem? Thanks in advance!
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Does it stay 100% forever? Then you may have the inexhaustible battery... (not sure if this is grammaticaly correct )
I wouldn't consider this a problem. You can download a battery monitoring app from the market and see what's going on with your phone and if the 100% that it's rerporting is correct. Also, check that the battery contacts are clean.
Not sure my phone does that but it can be on half charge then when I reset phone it's gone up a notch. This morning it didn't look like it had charged although it had been plugged in. When I switched it was on orange then it did the charging animation for a few seconds without charger plugged in then stopped on full. Odd.
Mine stays on 100% for a couple of hours too, has done since I got it.
I think perhaps HTC are "cheating" (or using "creative coding", whichever expression you prefer) in the way they report the battery percentage. Make the battery appear better than it is. Just a theory, of course.
This morning it didn't look likeit had charged although it had been plugged in. When I switched it was on orange then it did the charging animation for a few seconds without charger plugged in then stopped on full. Odd
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That happens to me a lot too. Woke up this morning, phone had been charging for nearly 5 hours, but was only on 82%. After a couple of minutes of the screen being on, it had leapt to 100% and stopped charging.
Also, once the battery is below about 20%, it will sometimes drop 2-3% at a time. Odd.
Looks like they totally screwed the battery meter hardware or something in the software. Remembers me of my iPod touch
Experienced the say.. hopefully either it will auto be fine due to charge cycle or via updates
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The Battery driver that LG used for the G2X has the same problem,a simple reboot fixes it,hope this helps "temporarily" that is.Cheers
Not just the sensation - my wildfire does the same yet my galaxy tab doesnt
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sjgore said:
Mine stays on 100% for a couple of hours too, has done since I got it.
I think perhaps HTC are "cheating" (or using "creative coding", whichever expression you prefer) in the way they report the battery percentage. Make the battery appear better than it is. Just a theory, of course..
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Thanks for your answer, so it's probably a general problem that may be fixed by either HTC or the Cooks that make ROM's for our beautiful new phones
Can you tell me how long it takes for your phone to fully charge?My phone needs 3-4 hours to fully charge..is this normal?!
Hmm mine doesn`t lag but it takes times to charge. Usually with my hd2 take around less than 2 hours to fully charge now with sensation around 3 hours
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Using it almost half an hour,battery felt from 100% to 99%...And I checked the battery useage,it isn't wrong..
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Although it is dual core,I think the battery life is much better than DHD..
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I received my phone yesterday and charged it for 4-5 hours throughout the day. Last night it was close to 100% while I was playing with it (off the charger). I then charged it over night for 9 hours. This morning the battery says it's at 50% but has 15 hours left.
Weird :\
Charge the battery with the power turned off overnight, in the morning unplug the charger, turn the phone on, and shutdown again, and plug the charger back for 30
mins phone still turned off. After that start using the phone normally, this way you calibrate the phones battery meter properly.
EnhancerFIN said:
Charge the battery with the power turned off overnight, in the morning unplug the charger, turn the phone on, and shutdown again, and plug the charger back for 30
mins phone still turned off. After that start using the phone normally, this way you calibrate the phones battery meter properly.
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Thanks mate! I'll do that tonight

[Q] Battery Drains with Phone Off?

I have long suspected something was wrong here. So last night, I charged my G2X to 100%, then turned the phone completely OFF!
Nine hours later I turned my phone back on, saw the nice Trinity animation, and saw that my battery was now at 89%!!!
WTF? Can anyone tell me what's going on here? My battery is only 7 months old! How does the battery drain so much with the phone off???
It could be that the battery is lying when it's at 100%... but I have read that the g2x drains while shut off.
Next time charge to 100, reboot phone, see what % it's at, then shut off the phone and test.
When I had charged the battery to 100%, I had left it connected to the charger for about five hours at 100%.
EEngineer said:
When I had charged the battery to 100%, I had left it connected to the charger for about five hours at 100%.
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Still doesn't change the fact that it could be lying.
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Mine does this along with a few others, there is a thread on the subject already.
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mt3g said:
Mine does this along with a few others, there is a thread on the subject already.
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Some say it could be the kernel, but there doesn't seem to be any resolution.
As to battery gauge accuracy, I have Battery Monitor Widget Pro installed and it verifies the sensor accuracy.
Charged to 100%, pulled the battery & let it sit for 8 hours. Just put the battery back in and the fuel gauge and Battery Widget Pro both say 100%.
With the way virtually every rechargable battery works this is pretty normal. When you charge a phone battery or anything really overnight it doesn't actually take the whole time to reach 100%. Most phones only require a few hours and after it hits the 100% mark it actually starts draining a little (as you have it plugged in) to about 95% or a little lower (your phone however is programmed to still display 100% to reduce user anxiety and will slowly adjust to the actual battery percentage as time goes on) And as someone already said, leaving the battery in the phone (even while it is off) will drain the battery too. This can be fixed by simply removing the battery until you want to use it.
ehafling said:
With the way virtually every rechargable battery works this is pretty normal. When you charge a phone battery or anything really overnight it doesn't actually take the whole time to reach 100%. Most phones only require a few hours and after it hits the 100% mark it actually starts draining a little (as you have it plugged in) to about 95% or a little lower (your phone however is programmed to still display 100% to reduce user anxiety and will slowly adjust to the actual battery percentage as time goes on)
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This is false and contradicts my measurements. BTW, the Android battery API shows the real percentage of the battery and doesn't "display 100% to reduce user anxiety". A battery meter that lied about its charge would INCREASE user anxiety.
it is well known that modern Android phones, including iPhones, have sneak circuits that still operate when the phone is switched off, including the GPS. It's a big privacy issue.
Then why doesn't it happen all the time on all phones and roms? I can confirm while using hfp 2.1 it drained with phone off and battery inside, but on cm7 nightly latest and stock kernel it hasn't done it to me yet.
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Because it's up to the kernel. Different kernels behave differently when the phone is off.
Kernel
Prob Has to do with Kernel. Maybe its the battery driver your using.
For example I'm using Hellfire phoenix Rom with this Kernel > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073626
I can use the one with DebouchedSloth's Battery Driver "(funky readings, but great battery performance)" or with the Official CM7 Battery Driver "(smooth readings, but battery life is slightly less than DebouchedSloth's driver)"
I think it's because the phone isn't actually off when you "power it off." I say this because when it's "off" and you plug in a power source the screen shows a charging graphic almost immediately, so it must still be on in order to detect the charger and show something on screen that quickly.
I had mine charged to 100%, turned it "off", came back 3 weeks later and it was dead.
Not sure why they'd design it like that. I guess the phone needs to be "on" in some sense to be able to charge while "powered off." I assume other phones can charge the battery while the phone is actually completely off.
O.K., just lost 10% battery overnight when powered off.
I've read that a draining battery when off is caused by the Fast Boot setting. When powered off some things are still running so the phone boots up faster.
In OEM Android there is a "Setting > Power > Fast Boot" that I can uncheck, but on CM7 I can't find that setting. Any ideas?

Faulty Hardware Battery drain?

Hey everyone,
I recently upgraded to android ICS 4.0.4 from 4.0.3 with the hope of the battery issue no longer an issue with my nexus s...
Though my battery drains around 1% every 2-4minutes with normal use, as in just scrolling and going through settings (not using apps), very very light use. I have factory wiped it , I have installed new roms and kernels - mixed and matched, uninstalled apps and installed apps one at a time (to see what drains), I even disabled some the high % wasting applications...
My screen dim is on the lowest, wifi is off, data is off, sync is off, gps is off, screen rotation is off, yet still no improvement, I even fully discharged my battery and re-charged it (while phone is off)- no improvement. And i also changed the CPU settings to 800max and still no improvement.
and when i'm playing a game or something it drops around 10% in ten - fifteen minutes, sometimes drops more.
When my screen is sleeping it takes around 1-2% every 1 hour-2hours, which I think is normal.
My screen is usually 45-50% Battery used by the display and backlight
Android system is usually 15%-20%
Android OS is usually 3%-10%
My battery is only about 4-5 months old, and I've always charge it when its 5-10% left, I don't let it die. I'm going to purchase a new battery to see if the problem occurs, if it does, can it be something with the phone hardware?
But any suggestion on what it is?
I've looked around on forums etc and none of the solutions have worked.
The display is going to use the most. There is no way around it. What are your average use times? If you're only losing a few % an hour idling, that's great! The only things I can think that would help is using black backgrounds whenever possible. You also have to keep in mind you're gaming with your phone and that's CPU intensive, which will cause more drain.
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The display is going to use the most. There is no way around it. What are your average use times? If you're only losing a few % an hour idling, that's great! The only things I can think that would help is using black backgrounds whenever possible. You also have to keep in mind you're gaming with your phone and that's CPU intensive, which will cause more drain.
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Yeah the display will use the most, but I remember it used to be around 30-35%, I've just been seeing how the battery is lately - just going through settings etc and it goes down every 2-3 minutes by 1%, it used to last much longer than that - 1% every ten mins. Sad thing is - I do use a black background lol to save battery and with games I hardly play them but when I do bye bye battery.
try battery callibration apk from market before you recharge your phone and no use 3g just 2g and make conservative 100/1000 the governor.
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I'll try the battery calibration and see how that goes, and change the governor as well to see if any improvement.
J.Jon said:
Hey everyone,
I recently upgraded to android ICS 4.0.4 from 4.0.3 with the hope of the battery issue no longer an issue with my nexus s...
Though my battery drains around 1% every 2-4minutes with normal use, as in just scrolling and going through settings (not using apps), very very light use. I have factory wiped it , I have installed new roms and kernels - mixed and matched, uninstalled apps and installed apps one at a time (to see what drains), I even disabled some the high % wasting applications...
My screen dim is on the lowest, wifi is off, data is off, sync is off, gps is off, screen rotation is off, yet still no improvement, I even fully discharged my battery and re-charged it (while phone is off)- no improvement. And i also changed the CPU settings to 800max and still no improvement.
and when i'm playing a game or something it drops around 10% in ten - fifteen minutes, sometimes drops more.
When my screen is sleeping it takes around 1-2% every 1 hour-2hours, which I think is normal.
My screen is usually 45-50% Battery used by the display and backlight
Android system is usually 15%-20%
Android OS is usually 3%-10%
My battery is only about 4-5 months old, and I've always charge it when its 5-10% left, I don't let it die. I'm going to purchase a new battery to see if the problem occurs, if it does, can it be something with the phone hardware?
But any suggestion on what it is?
I've looked around on forums etc and none of the solutions have worked.
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Yesterday morning i charged it full 100%. I took it off the charger and left it on the table. It had no wifi or games running at all( at about 8 am) I leave it there all day until about 6 or so. and when i come back its down to 30% WTF IS THAT!. On my dads phone he could have 1% battery and leave it standing by all day and night and he can still turn it on without losing the last percent. Its not an iphone either. Hopefully 4.1 Jelly Bean will have some battery fix for the nexus
BetterBatteryStats. Your best friend when it comes to battery life.
Yeah. Mine isn't bad, but I also just go by my screen usage. If can't get at least 3 hours by the end of the day(which is probably 13 hours), then something is up. Note on calibration, it won't do anything. Those stats are reset once the phone is charged past 90% IIRC. On top of that, our batteries have a different way of reporting the charge. It's not the same as htcs.
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I managed to get my screen down to 40ish% and my Android system is under 10% and I've been timing my battery and noticed every 4minutes exactly it still goes down. I tried calibration does nothing as you said. I'm gonna download betterbatterystats and I have cpu spy running atm...
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CooLoserTech said:
Yesterday morning i charged it full 100%. I took it off the charger and left it on the table. It had no wifi or games running at all( at about 8 am) I leave it there all day until about 6 or so. and when i come back its down to 30% WTF IS THAT!. On my dads phone he could have 1% battery and leave it standing by all day and night and he can still turn it on without losing the last percent. Its not an iphone either. Hopefully 4.1 Jelly Bean will have some battery fix for the nexus
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If we even get jellybean
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J.Jon said:
If we even get jellybean
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xda will do it!
I have the same issues. 10 hours max not touching the phone at all. Stock, custom, matrix, nothing helps.
Maybe 6 hours if I start using it moderately
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Similar issue here. Tried all combinations of ROMs (jb,ics,gb) and kernels (air,marmite,matr1x,lucid) to no avail. Even reverted back to stock GB ROM, radio, and bootloader. Nowhere near 6 hours talk time or 200 hours standby time. I get between 8-10 hours standby time if I'm lucky. I even tried turning the phone off overnight, with a full charge even, and when I went to turn it back on in the morning the battery was dead and I had to plug it in to turn it on.
I picked up a new battery today but the issue seems to persist. I put the new battery in at noon with 98% charge and now 2.5 hours later I'm down to 70%. I am convinced there is a hardware problem that is causing the battery to drain excessively. GSAM Battery Monitor and stock battery stats all look normal with screen using the most battery followed by Android System etc etc. Aside from the battery problem, the phone is awesome and I really don't want to have to buy a GNex when this phone is still salvageable.
So what part of this phone could drain the battery so fast with the screen off? It could be the CPU, GPU, screen digitizer perhaps?
I know you tried with your old battery, but could you try again with the new battery with your phone turned completely off? If there's a drain, then there's definitely a hardware issue.
polobunny said:
I know you tried with your old battery, but could you try again with the new battery with your phone turned completely off? If there's a drain, then there's definitely a hardware issue.
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Phone off for half hour yielded a 9% drop in battery life. I'll keep the responses in this thread only. I just realized every time I respond to a thread it gets bumped to the top of the forum!
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Phone off for half hour yielded a 9% drop in battery life. I'll keep the responses in this thread only. I just realized every time I respond to a thread it gets bumped to the top of the forum!
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Definitely something wrong. I don't lose anything with phone off, so something is messing up hardware wise. Did the phone get water damage?

[Q] Charging and battery indicator

Hi everyone
My problem is.. my DS started to charge slowly.
Now it doesn't really charge slowly, If I check the voltage, I will get like 4220mv but as soon as it reaches that, the charging graph just goes flat.
If say I have charged it to 70% and it started going slow. i switch it off, place on the charger, and the lamp goes green. I turn it on, and it is showing 100%.
I have tried calibrations, diffirent kernels, wiping, factory resets e.t.c.
Another thing is that if I will run a v6 battery calibrator,it will show that actually I should have a 100% charge although a phone is showing only 70%.
So the summary: Phone charges normally when off (when recovery monitors charging), showing the correct voltage when on... But showing the wrong percentage if on charge.
Also sometimes if the battery is like 14% left. And I turn the phone off and then on again, it will show 22% bearing the same voltage as when it was 14%.
Question: Is there any way to tweak the battery indicator so it would show % values same as the v6 calibrator does it or is it a hardware fault, if yes, which part of it ?
This happens to me on my older (original) battery, but not my new one. I bought the second battery when this problem started happening. So, I think it's just a symptom of an old battery.
By the way, if you leave it on charge long enough, it will eventually jump up to 100%.
Other than this weird behaviour, it has no real impact on anything.
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Thought so, mines been acting similarly lately, but strangely enough it seems to be getting better
I think I found out..
I actually purchased a new battery recently, because my old one was jumping like crazy and started discharging in a few hours..
This new battery I bought from a mobile repair shop.
It is a cheap chinese battery with no name, anyhow I just took it out to take a look at it...
And guess what, it sais 1200mah..
Can the phone be confused because of that ?

[Q] Restarting the phone gives MORE Battery?!

Yes, this is exactly what I get lots of time. Today, I had been charging my phone for around 3 hours starting from 14% battery. Till now it had reached around 55 % when I had to remove the charger and I put my phone somewhere. Then after some minutes I connected my phone to the PC to charge via PC now, as the charger was unavailable to me for the moment. I found that the phone had been turned off automatically. OK, so I turned it on but I saw that the battery is 100% !!
Similar thing happened yesterday when I was charging phone and decided to restart mobile thinking of getting more RAM, for it had not been restarted since a while. I restarted at 20% battery and turned it on to find that it was above 50% !
Why is it happening? Does my battery get charged quickly but phone does not tell me or is my battery behaving funny? (actually, not funny at all)
My brother's HTC Amaze charges from zero to 100% in around 2.5 hrs and other brother's Xperia Arc also charges from zero to 100% in around 2 hrs.
But my Sensation normally takes 5-6 hours.
This is a known "issue" and is due to (closed source) htc drivers. Those jumps are rather large though, could also be due to bad battery calibration; something to be expected just after flashing a rom.
84Guzz said:
This is a known "issue" and is due to (closed source) htc drivers. Those jumps are rather large though, could also be due to bad battery calibration; something to be expected just after flashing a rom.
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I have never flashed or rooted.. didn't they give a solution?
Actually it happens even if you're completely stock. It's a known issue in everyone sensation, i think. I also think It won't give you more juice as percentage will reduce faster to where it should be.
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Actually it happens even if you're completely stock. It's a known issue in everyone sensation, i think. I also think It won't give you more juice as percentage will reduce faster to where it should be.
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That's what I experienced yesterday.. it dropped down real fast.
As mentioned above, it may also be a calibration issue. I am saying this because I sometimes charge with charger and sometimes with PC (USB charging Mode), and even sometimes switch between these while going from 0-100%.
I think it doesn't matter how you charge or deal with your phone. I don't think that battery calibration will solve it. If you reboot it'll increase your battery percentage, even if you don't use a charger.
it is a common htc issue with battery percentage
it happens with my device too
while charging if i do a reboot it jumps to a higher percentage

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