[Discussion] A full case really necessary? Bumper good enough? - Galaxy S 4 Accessories

This is the first phone I've owned where I ordered a case. My old phones (6800, Touch pro, touch pro 2, epic 4g... ) never really needed it as they had enough "plastic protection" (bulk) that dropping them didn't really cause much damage.
The more I think about it, the less it seems that a full case would really be necessary or beneficial. So my question, Is a case covering the back of the phone really necessary?
My thoughts on why its NOT:
Most (I would guess 99%) of drops end up hiting corners, not the front or back. Watch as many drop test videos as you want... how many of them drop flat on there back.... and out of those that drop flat on their back... how many land on a rock or something that pushes up past the rim (find one... I couldn't).
There isn't much need to protect on the back of the phone. If I were to drop my phone from head height and it landed flat on its back... on a rock... I would probably only crack the back cover.. which only costs like 3 bucks.
Protection from dirt... not. People like to say that a full back case would protect the phone from dirt. What they forget is that dirt will work its way into the case and small movements between the case and the phone will cause the phone to scratch on that dirt.
Doesn't really protect the camera. The only thing protecting the camera in the rim... which a bumper case has.
Also, I think a lot of the cases out there (the slim tpu cases, excluding the tech21 d30 case) probably don't provide much protection against screen cracking. Screen cracking seems to happen when you have a decent point load on the phone. More solid cases like aluminum bumpers, hard chell cases help distribute the point load to a larger surface area on the phone... causing less damage. Its like getting punched in the gut vs getting punched in the gut covered but a wood board. Either way your body still feels the full force of the blow, just one way the force is distributed over a larger area of your body.
Thoughts?

I had the same thought about the bumper and posted a thread asking for bumper recommendations here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2334648
What I got in response was mostly people ignoring my post and recommending different types of full case. I get the impression that most forum posters don't actually read posts before they reply but merely react to the title.
I agree with you about the bumper providing almost as much protection as a case but I think to keep the screen from cracking you need a soft bumper like TPU at least as an inner layer. If the phone lands on a corner with a hard bumper it will still have a lot of force concentrated in a small area will have no cushioning to dampen the impact.

It's not necessary, but it's still possible of something hitting the back case or the back case dropping onto something. You just need to outweigh the pros and cons yourself, then decide what to go with. If I was only worried about my phone being dropped, then I would get the bumper since I'm usually never in a environment with debris all over the ground. But I've had couple instances where things were dropped onto my phone. So I just buy a full case myself.

The necessity of having any case at all is dictated by your aversion to any inconvenience caused by a momentary ooops moment leading to a cracked screen or dented phone. Repair? Replace? I'd rather prevent my phone getting damaged in the first place.
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I think bumper/tpu cases in general are more for cosmetics and minor protection. And because of the chincy bezel on the s4, for example, ppl at work who like to put their phones glass side down. As well as protecting the camera and having a more flat back when using it on a desk/table. I myself own the neo hybrid and I don't think they offer any "REALLY GREAT" protection. Something in the middle would be the uag, which I think I will be ordering soon. It has the best of both worlds, IMO. And if you think ur gonna drop ur phone a lot for whatever reasons(clumsiness,blue collar work, or "you just never know"), I would go with a heavy duty full case for maximum protection from spiegen or otterbox.

reaeg said:
I had the same thought about the bumper and posted a thread asking for bumper recommendations here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2334648
What I got in response was mostly people ignoring my post and recommending different types of full case. I get the impression that most forum posters don't actually read posts before they reply but merely react to the title.
I agree with you about the bumper providing almost as much protection as a case but I think to keep the screen from cracking you need a soft bumper like TPU at least as an inner layer. If the phone lands on a corner with a hard bumper it will still have a lot of force concentrated in a small area will have no cushioning to dampen the impact.
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I ordered a couple (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42676653&postcount=22) bumpers and should get them soon. I think bumpers aren't the "popular" thing so thats why you didn't get a very good bumper response.
As for tpu for inner layer, most of the aluminum bumpers provide a small tpu layer (very small)... but I don't think its really necessary. A rigid bumper like the aluminum ones will still distribute the force through the 2 sides of the phone if hit in the corner. Its just like my board on the stomach analogy in the OP. There is no soft layer between the wood board and your gut,,, but it doesn't hurt as bad because the load is spread out over a larger space.
The softer inner layer just help absorb the impact... to help not jar internals.
DKYang said:
It's not necessary, but it's still possible of something hitting the back case or the back case dropping onto something. You just need to outweigh the pros and cons yourself, then decide what to go with. If I was only worried about my phone being dropped, then I would get the bumper since I'm usually never in a environment with debris all over the ground. But I've had couple instances where things were dropped onto my phone. So I just buy a full case myself.
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I didn't think about dropping something on my phone, ha. I've never done that. I guess that is a use case...
Every time I've ever dropped my phone, the corners get dinged... even my old old phones that took years of dropping, the front and backs look perfect... the corners look messed up.

The back is more prone to scratching than the front tbh, and I'd assume that having a rounded off flat back would cause less drops than a bumper with a lip on both sides
The poetic atmosphere case is pretty good, let's you see the back of the phone
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PoRco1x said:
The back is more prone to scratching than the front tbh,
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That could be... but does it matter... a new back cover is only a couple bucks, way cheaper than a pricey case . That said... I might bet an imitation neo hybrid... cause they make the phone look sweet.
My point of this thread is kinda questioning the untested idea that the whole case provides more protection than the open back.... from falls. You could probably argue that it doesn't based on the low probability of a back hit.

icevapor said:
A rigid bumper like the aluminum ones will still distribute the force through the 2 sides of the phone if hit in the corner.
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That's a very good point.
Personally, I'd change the board analogy slightly. A dropped phone is more like strapping a board to yourself and running into something. In that case, having a layer of something soft between yourself and the board would be a nice bonus. I've always thought the ideal protection would be a rigid outer layer with a soft inner layer for exactly that reason; the outer layer distributes the impact over a large area and the inner layer absorbs that distributed impact.
Another concern I had with the aluminum bumpers was that you have metal directly against the screen which isn't ideal but I saw another user mention adding a layer of neoprene tape in between which could actually give that rigid outer layer, soft inner layer in a bumper that I've been after.
Please post your impressions when you get the bumpers. I'd be especially interested in hearing about the impact on signal performance. I've heard half say they decrease signal strength and half say there's no effect.
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norml said:
I think bumper/tpu cases in general are more for cosmetics and minor protection. And because of the chincy bezel on the s4, for example, ppl at work who like to put their phones glass side down. As well as protecting the camera and having a more flat back when using it on a desk/table. I myself own the neo hybrid and I don't think they offer any "REALLY GREAT" protection. Something in the middle would be the uag, which I think I will be ordering soon. It has the best of both worlds, IMO. And if you think ur gonna drop ur phone a lot for whatever reasons(clumsiness,blue collar work, or "you just never know"), I would go with a heavy duty full case for maximum protection from spiegen or otterbox.
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I think a bumper could offer great drop protection if designed well. The heavy duty cases protect the screen with nothing more than a lip. The screen is the most breakable part of the phone so there's not much point in protecting the back more than the screen. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

There isn't really any point to make this thread. Its all personal opinions and choice if you want a bumper or full case.
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reaeg said:
That's a very good point.
Personally, I'd change the board analogy slightly. A dropped phone is more like strapping a board to yourself and running into something. In that case, having a layer of something soft between yourself and the board would be a nice bonus. I've always thought the ideal protection would be a rigid outer layer with a soft inner layer for exactly that reason; the outer layer distributes the impact over a large area and the inner layer absorbs that distributed impact.
Another concern I had with the aluminum bumpers was that you have metal directly against the screen which isn't ideal but I saw another user mention adding a layer of neoprene tape in between which could actually give that rigid outer layer, soft inner layer in a bumper that I've been after.
Please post your impressions when you get the bumpers. I'd be especially interested in hearing about the impact on signal performance. I've heard half say they decrease signal strength and half say there's no effect.
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The 2 bumpers I ordered look like they have a rubber/plastic barrier in between the aluminum and the phone. Some online show it, some don't.
I'll post infor when I get them.
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icevapor said:
So my question, Is a case covering the back of the phone really necessary?
Thoughts?
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i had the same thought process as you. the back cover getting scratched is no big deal, because i can always get a replacement back cover for relatively cheap. the front isn't a concern due to a screen protector. what my biggest worry was the sides getting dinged or scratched. so after using slim cases, i figured i'd get a bumper case and see if liked it better. i bought the roocase from amazon and i liked it a lot (i got the white for my white S4). it looked SO much better in person, too. however, i wound up returning it because it made swiping annoying, because the lip was a little higher and it covered the screen just a little bit more than my slim cases. if that doesn't bother you, i would definitely check out the roocase (it's really cheap and it's free 2-day shipping with amazon prime). as for me, i'm going to maybe check out an aluminum bumper and see if that feels better.

icevapor said:
The 2 bumpers I ordered look like they have a rubber/plastic barrier in between the aluminum and the phone. Some online show it, some don't.
I'll post infor when I get them.
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Alternative option of aluminum bumper for GS4 fabricated by DevilCase.
There is a video on their FB fan page. It seems like they just released bumpers for GS4 in few days ago, but can't find it at Amazon's marketplace yet.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Devilcase-Aluminum-Alloy-Bumper-Series/448520031891616
Some people discussed their bumpers for HTC One and had some reviews on its product. What do you guys think?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2316315&highlight=devilcase

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If I decide on not wearing a case...

So as everyone else in this forum, we all like the design and feel of the new HTC... Im an adict for feeling the metal in my hands and keeping the device as sleek as possible...
I have the silver grey edition, was wondering how sensitive is the phone to scratches if i decide on not wearing a case...
each time I put the phone nakud on a table of some sort, I hear that terrible metal sound scratching the surface of the table...
Am I just having a bad OCD or in the long run i will start seeing some heavy blemishes on the phone's body ?
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ransz said:
So as everyone else in this forum, we all like the design and feel of the new HTC... Im an adict for feeling the metal in my hands and keeping the device as sleek as possible...
I have the silver grey edition, was wondering how sensitive is the phone to scratches if i decide on not wearing a case...
each time I put the phone nakud on a table of some sort, I hear that terrible metal sound scratching the surface of the table...
Am I just having a bad OCD or in the long run i will start seeing some heavy blemishes on the phone's body ?
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It's aluminum - a pretty soft metal; there probably will be scratches after a time, its just inevitable. But the finish is pretty strong. I've had mine for about 2 weeks and only have one barely noticeable scratch and I'm pretty rough on phones. I'd recommend one eventually. Maybe get a skin if you don't want to add to the bulk.
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I had the M7 for a year, and never put a screen protector or body case/skin on it. I used the Seidio Spring Clip Holster for it, and there is just one, barely perceptible, dent in the back.You have to hold it JUST right in low light to even see it. No scratches, and I've even dropped it on the sidewalk (which left a teeny-tiny nick in the beveled edge, again you have to bee looking really hard to see it.)
I have the Spring Clip Holster on order for my just received M8, I plan on running it caseless/skinless as well. I have the dark grey version, and I just can't bear to cover this pretty thing up.
Admittedly, I'm not hard on devices. Were I to take it out in rough conditions (say, camping/hunting/shooting/hiking), I'd probably use a leather belt clip case. As it is, I work in an office. My husband used the Seidio Surface case and holster on his M7, and I have the Seidio Dilex case on the way for his new M8.
If you're a pocket carrier, though, I'd think long and hard about what you tend to keep in the pocket with it. Keys, loose change, pocket knife - no-go. Skin it, or change the way you carry it.
edit: Ok, this thing looks pretty damn tough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fzr7ULAiEk and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhwvXTVQoPM
You tempt me to go caseless with the htc...
I noticed from videos that the gun metal version is more vaunrable the scratches and small cracks if the device hits the groud.. im guessing its due to the color of the handset...
Decisions decisions...
ransz said:
You tempt me to go caseless with the htc...
I noticed from videos that the gun metal version is more vaunrable the scratches and small cracks if the device hits the groud.. im guessing its due to the color of the handset...
Decisions decisions...
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Mine is gunmetal, and will be caseless carried in a holster. My husband's is silver, and will be cased in a holster.If I do end up scratching it, I'll probably get a skin for it, like this one: http://www.slickwraps.com/HTC-One-M8-Brushed-Onyx-p/sw-one8-onyx.htm
Like all materials, it will scratch if brushed against something harder than it is. Aluminium is not the strongest of metals and is more easily scratched. Mine has some small scratches on the edges where my car mount holds it. I've since added some felt to the mount to prevent any more marks. In the grand scheme of things they're nothing and I'm sure it will get more as I use it. I feel the phone looks worse with a case of some sort stuck on it than it would with a few superficial scratches. I did get a case for when I know I'll be using it in a more active environment but most of the time I go without a case.
Wasted Money
Spent $25 on a Spigen slim armor case for my wife M8 and three days later she stops using it. Thinking of getting a temper glass screen protector.
Gahar said:
Spent $25 on a Spigen slim armor case for my wife M8 and three days later she stops using it. Thinking of getting a temper glass screen protector.
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Why did she quit using it?
I love my Slim Armor. It is slim and keeps the design aesthetics of the phone. My grip on the phone is better. A picture is below for those that haven't seen the cases. And they come in different colors that mirror the phone if you want.
I only went a few days without a case and dicked up my gun metal gray phone on two corners with a small drop onto concrete. My case arrived the next day. It still pisses me off.
85gallon said:
Why did she quit using it?
I love my Slim Armor. It is slim and keeps the design aesthetics of the phone. Picture below for those that haven't seen the cases.
I only went a few days without a case and dicked up my gun metal gray phone on two corners with a small drop onto concrete.
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She loves the phone but she said the case makes the phone taller. I don't want her to drop the phone because all it takes is one drop. I was thinking of putting a temper glass protector.
I have a fairly large scratch on the rear aluminum on my HTC One M8. I believe it got scratched from my retractable badge lanyard clip as I attach it on to my left pocket where my phone resides. It probably rubbed against the clip, introducing the scratch :/
FWIW, This is my first aluminum unibody phone. All of my past phones (EVO, EVO-3D, SGS3, SGS4) never had a single scratch and never had any protection (cases or screenguards) and still look mint. All of them were plastic however.
myn said:
I have a fairly large scratch on the rear aluminum on my HTC One M8. I believe it got scratched from my retractable badge lanyard clip as I attach it on to my left pocket where my phone resides. It probably rubbed against the clip, introducing the scratch :/
FWIW, This is my first aluminum unibody phone. All of my past phones (EVO, EVO-3D, SGS3, SGS4) never had a single scratch and never had any protection (cases or screenguards) and still look mint. All of them were plastic however.
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surprisingly I went and bought the cheap orignal HTC case that comes with some of the HTC's retailers, its pretty good... i mean its not like otterbox protection or spigen... but it keeps the case very slim and gives u a very good grip in the hand.
ransz said:
So as everyone else in this forum, we all like the design and feel of the new HTC... Im an adict for feeling the metal in my hands and keeping the device as sleek as possible...
I have the silver grey edition, was wondering how sensitive is the phone to scratches if i decide on not wearing a case...
each time I put the phone nakud on a table of some sort, I hear that terrible metal sound scratching the surface of the table...
Am I just having a bad OCD or in the long run i will start seeing some heavy blemishes on the phone's body ?
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I always dress my phone with good cases. Same as you, I don't want seeing my phone having scratches, dents and blemishes in the future.
case-mate barely there case is great for minimal, the aluminum was too slipery for myself.
This has a nice matte finish to it and add practically no bulk, won't do a whole lot in terms of protection against large drops/bumps, but for small scratches to the back and sides this is great.
I didn't want to put my M8 in a case, but that thing felt like a wet bar of soap in my hand. So I went with this case so I could still see that beautiful brushed aluminum.
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Always use hard case. It'll prevent your phone from scratches and all. For sweaty hands. And in case it fell, you have an extra protection. That's why I keep my phone with case all the time.

Anyone keep their phone naked, and notnuse a case?

Was just randomly wondering if anyone doesn't use a case for this phone. Seems like everyone uses a case, and I figured since I'm not selling or trading this phone, why not use it in all its glory. The only problems is, after a few minutes, it gets oily and really slippery, and it's a really thin phone, so it gets a bit uncomfortable using it without a case.
Also, when one hand scrolling, it does this weird thing where it doesn't scroll smoothly, and your palm gets in the way, and gives the scrolling a hitch. When using a phone case, the part of the case that sticks out on the screen naturally blocks your palm, and you never have that problem.
But anyways, who's using the phone naked, and find it to be the most comfortable and best option to go with?
Gimme some pros and cons of you will.
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Your scrolling problem is related to the size of your hands.
I don't use cases, most of them are fugly.
What's the point of having slim phones if we are going to put a case on it and thus it will become bulky anyway?
Might as well make the phones sturdier (which also means bulkier) to begin with.
The only thing I would agree with would be a side bumper. If you're not using a flip cover, even if you have a normal case, your screen will be endangered either way. A simple case only protects the edges and the back (though I don't know why the back cover would need protection). So might as well just stick to a bumper, which doesn't turn the phone into a brick.
I used to have a metallic bumper, though I stopped using it because it messed with the Wi-Fi and mobile signals, due to the metal's reflective properties.
I use the device as is. I also don't experience any grip issues, but that may be due to the fact that my model came with a leather-like back cover and is textured as such, which makes gripping easier.
GDReaper said:
Your scrolling problem is related to the size of your hands.
I don't use cases, most of them are fugly.
What's the point of having slim phones if we are going to put a case on it and thus it will become bulky anyway?
Might as well make the phones sturdier (which also means bulkier) to begin with.
The only thing I would agree with would be a side bumper. If you're not using a flip cover, even if you have a normal case, your screen will be endangered either way. A simple case only protects the edges and the back (though I don't know why the back cover would need protection). So might as well just stick to a bumper, which doesn't turn the phone into a brick.
I used to have a metallic bumper, though I stopped using it because it messed with the Wi-Fi and mobile signals, due to the metal's reflective properties.
I use the device as is. I also don't experience any grip issues, but that may be due to the fact that my model came with a leather-like back cover and is textured as such, which makes gripping easier.
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Yeah, you're not experiencing the slip issue because y9u have a leather back. Thst makes all the difference in the world, and matter of fact, I'm gonna order a leather back cover for this phone from Amazon. You actually reminded me to do that lol.
But yeah, been using it without a case for the last day, and just can't without it getting way too slippery. Always revert back to a case.
Gotta go the leather back route.
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I use a clear rubbery case that doesn't take up any space and is virtually invisible. Cost a buck shipped on ebay. Keeps the phone from slipping
Eh, screw it. I just can't use this phone naked, and don't feel like ordering the leather back. I'm just gonna use my candyshell grip case. This phone was made to put a case on it. Way too slim, even with a non slip back.
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I use it with no case and screen protector. I've been using it like this for quite a while. I don't really find any cons. I've dropped it a lot too but it's staying strong I got it 2nd hand like 2-3 years ago.
I go naked with it. My hands and fingers are always bumping into the screen sometimes and I'll get rapid taps/multi openings etc. And yeah it does get kinds oily and all fingerprinty 'up'd. Thats why I mostly use one of them pen things with a rubber end. A pencil works good too.
I hate bulky cases. I went to a Boost mobile store and bought a $15 rubber case that just covered the back and sides. No cover protector. Hate them too. That worked fine until I took it off to wipe down the screen and didnt want it back on again, lost it. So Im nude again. I like these phones better without cases. Plus I' take the cover off a lot too swap sd cards. But just a cheap chunk of rubber works.
I've dropped it a few times, luckily on carpets, never scratched the screen yet, and the back part wont scratch much anyway. I should get a screen protector though. I love Lanyard Holes, but for whatever reason they stopped manufacturing them with these newer phones over the past few years. I use to keep my phone around my neck or attached to my belt loop with that little tiny hole and a lanyard string. But, no more. I hate that.
Or just do what I did. Go to Home Depot and buy liquid spray rubber in a can and spray paint the phone in a rubber coating, let dry, razor blade/exacto knife, peel where needed. lol. It works.
x432hz said:
I go naked with it. My hands and fingers are always bumping into the screen sometimes and I'll get rapid taps/multi openings etc. And yeah it does get kinds oily and all fingerprinty 'up'd. Thats why I mostly use one of them pen things with a rubber end. A pencil works good too.
I hate bulky cases. I went to a Boost mobile store and bought a $15 rubber case that just covered the back and sides. No cover protector. Hate them too. That worked fine until I took it off to wipe down the screen and didnt want it back on again, lost it. So Im nude again. I like these phones better without cases. Plus I' take the cover off a lot too swap sd cards. But just a cheap chunk of rubber works.
I've dropped it a few times, luckily on carpets, never scratched the screen yet, and the back part wont scratch much anyway. I should get a screen protector though. I love Lanyard Holes, but for whatever reason they stopped manufacturing them with these newer phones over the past few years. I use to keep my phone around my neck or attached to my belt loop with that little tiny hole and a lanyard string. But, no more. I hate that.
Or just do what I did. Go to Home Depot and buy liquid spray rubber in a can and spray paint the phone in a rubber coating, let dry, razor blade/exacto knife, peel where needed. lol. It works.
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That's a damn good idea.
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Man, at the end of the day, I just can't use this phone without a case. Its way too thin and slippery. Speck candyshell grip for the win. Absolutely perfect case for this phone, light as a feather, thin, adds almost no bulk to the width of the phone, and incredibly grippy. Can't go wrong.
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I can't remember the last phone I owned where I didn't use a case. In fact, when I purchased my Nexus 4, I actually forgot to order a case, and when it arrived, I flat out refused to take it out the house before the case arrived.
I wouldn't consider myself clumsy, but accidents do happen and they usually involve my mobile phone. I always buy the same case, a plastic/silicone TPU case from eBay, and they range from 99p to about £3. I never spend more than that. This is the case I bought for mine:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ultra-Sli...hash=item36017ba2e3:m:mYsl2Xxl2euYRiFrqhugqKQ
I won't buy the hard shell cases because the aim is to absorb the impact. A hard shell case will simply distribute it elsewhere and therefore either the case will crack (causing damage to the phone) or the impact will simply transfer through into the phone itself causing pretty much the same amount of damage that you might get if you didn't have a case at all. A TPU case will genuinely absorb impact and protect your phone. I am lucky enough to say that from experience. I dropped my Galaxy S1 down a terrace at a football match (soccer) and while the case itself was scratched, the phone remained totally unscratched. I've dropped my S4 numerous times out the door of my car (usually falls out my pocket) and so far, there has been no damage to the phone itself, although that said I think the front camera has perhaps started to play up, so perhaps that's been caused by repeated drops, but it's nothing that can't be repaired for cheap and ultimately, the screen is still alive and looking gorgeous and that's the expensive part to replace.
My girlfriend dropped her uncased Nokia Lumia 900 once on a hard wood floor. The screen was smashed and the phone was never quite the same afterwards (I think there was some damage to the accelerometer). My friend has smashed many many iPhones by not keeping them in cases (it only takes one drop). I am yet to smash a phone despite repeated efforts.
One last thing, if you do buy a TPU case, make sure there is a lip. That will add a huge amount of protection to the screen. No lip, no real protection offered to the glass.
Definitely a case for me ... Otter Box
Started off without one till i dropped it and broke the front glass. After months of seeing it damaged i replaced the glass myself then ordered an Otter Box case. Sure it adds bulk but at least i don't worry too much about it falling again. It took a tumble from the top of the stairs the other day and no damage, I thought for sure it was a done deal when i watched it tumble faster as it went down.
The glass replacement wasn't as hard i had thought it would be especially using the 3rd party adhesive and i must say the screen feels stronger than the original. I do agree however it is a sleek phone without a case but too slippery to leave unprotected IMO
Otter box cases are unnecessarily bulky imo, but there we go.
skezza said:
I can't remember the last phone I owned where I didn't use a case. In fact, when I purchased my Nexus 4, I actually forgot to order a case, and when it arrived, I flat out refused to take it out the house before the case arrived.
I wouldn't consider myself clumsy, but accidents do happen and they usually involve my mobile phone. I always buy the same case, a plastic/silicone TPU case from eBay, and they range from 99p to about £3. I never spend more than that. This is the case I bought for mine:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ultra-Sli...hash=item36017ba2e3:m:mYsl2Xxl2euYRiFrqhugqKQ
I won't buy the hard shell cases because the aim is to absorb the impact. A hard shell case will simply distribute it elsewhere and therefore either the case will crack (causing damage to the phone) or the impact will simply transfer through into the phone itself causing pretty much the same amount of damage that you might get if you didn't have a case at all. A TPU case will genuinely absorb impact and protect your phone. I am lucky enough to say that from experience. I dropped my Galaxy S1 down a terrace at a football match (soccer) and while the case itself was scratched, the phone remained totally unscratched. I've dropped my S4 numerous times out the door of my car (usually falls out my pocket) and so far, there has been no damage to the phone itself, although that said I think the front camera has perhaps started to play up, so perhaps that's been caused by repeated drops, but it's nothing that can't be repaired for cheap and ultimately, the screen is still alive and looking gorgeous and that's the expensive part to replace.
My girlfriend dropped her uncased Nokia Lumia 900 once on a hard wood floor. The screen was smashed and the phone was never quite the same afterwards (I think there was some damage to the accelerometer). My friend has smashed many many iPhones by not keeping them in cases (it only takes one drop). I am yet to smash a phone despite repeated efforts.
One last thing, if you do buy a TPU case, make sure there is a lip. That will add a huge amount of protection to the screen. No lip, no real protection offered to the glass.
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Dual layer is the best way to go. Light, slim, and offer the most protection for the least amount of size.
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d3athd3al3r said:
Started off without one till i dropped it and broke the front glass. After months of seeing it damaged i replaced the glass myself then ordered an Otter Box case. Sure it adds bulk but at least i don't worry too much about it falling again. It took a tumble from the top of the stairs the other day and no damage, I thought for sure it was a done deal when i watched it tumble faster as it went down.
The glass replacement wasn't as hard i had thought it would be especially using the 3rd party adhesive and i must say the screen feels stronger than the original. I do agree however it is a sleek phone without a case but too slippery to leave unprotected IMO
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Not only slippery, but just awkward to hold after a few minutes. Its way too thin and rectangular, instead of a square shape. They made the phone way too long, and not wide enough for adult hands to hold comfortably for more than a few minutes.
The design was FOR SURE made for a phone case to be put on it. I'm certain of this.
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A battery cover with wireless charging made it better IMO
tikay00 said:
Not only slippery, but just awkward to hold after a few minutes. Its way too thin and rectangular, instead of a square shape. They made the phone way too long, and not wide enough for adult hands to hold comfortably for more than a few minutes.
The design was FOR SURE made for a phone case to be put on it. I'm certain of this.
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Update: After purchasing a new battery cover that allows for wireless charging I ditched the OtterBox Deffender case since it wouldn't fit. Though still made of shiny plastic I feel its a better option than the stock cover because it's slightly thicker, adds weight, makes the phone feel more solid and offers better protection for the rear camera lens. I can see this as an option for anyone who is looking for an alternative to not wanting to cover it up with a case.
d3athd3al3r said:
Update: After purchasing a new battery cover that allows for wireless charging I ditched the OtterBox Deffender case since it wouldn't fit. Though still made of shiny plastic I feel its a better option than the stock cover because it's slightly thicker, adds weight, makes the phone feel more solid and offers better protection for the rear camera lens. I can see this as an option for anyone who is looking for an alternative to not wanting to cover it up with a case.
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Yeah, if I had a leather back cover, I'd probably use it without a case. I just need to order one. Even then, I don't know if it would be comfortable, because of the shape of the phone, and the physical dimensions.
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I never use a case or screen protectors because I want to feel the actual phone in my hand.
OK, been using this phone without a case for the past few days, and its butter. Can't go back to cades now lol. You guys were right.
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butt ass naked here since it came out.
mother gifted me a case but it felt like I was holding a brick.
Ive dropped this thing 3,216,546,163 times and it still works fine.
last month though its not reading my sd card properly for some reason, so time to replace soon maybe.
cant submit an image to show you how banged up the sides are(not much surprisingly), no broken screen though.
No case, only a velcro pasty.
This is a very relevant thread. I finally broke the glass on my i9295 a month or so ago. The phone struck the corner of a solid object on the way down. I suspect that an Otter Box protective housing could have saved the screen. However, if I was going to be carrying around my phone in an Otterbox, I would not have a ruggedized IP67 rated phone like the i9295. I carry my phone almost naked with only a 2" x 3" swatch of fuzzy Velcro material stuck on the back. This allows me to stick the phone on the dash of my car or boat where I have a swatch of hookey Velcro material. I also do like the feeling of the fuzzy material on the back of the phone. Makes the phone feel less like a slick bar of soap. I do really like the idea of spraying the phone w/rubberized tool coating. BTW, I did finally just get around to replacing the glass a couple of days ago .

Tough case for mi mix?

Maybe I'm hoping against hope but is there an otter box style case out for this yet?
Scared to smash it as I don't fancy repairing it.
retrend said:
Maybe I'm hoping against hope but is there an otter box style case out for this yet?
Scared to smash it as I don't fancy repairing it.
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At 1st,I wouldn't have thought there'd be much in the way of cases,as I believed production was gonna be frozen @ 10,000 units.
However,I've seen in a few articles/etc.... stating that was the number per month,so,perhaps we'll see a better variety soon should that pan out..
I haven't Googled for anything on the subject of quantities,so IDK which way/how long this phone will be in production.
I'm set w/cases,but,I'm always looking around. If I find anything,I'll post it in this section of the Mi MIX forum. :good:
I saw a LOVE MEI powerful case for the MI mix on ebay.
I looks decent. Certainly the most protective case out there.
It'll make the mix pretty chunky but what can you do.
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Maybe I'm hoping against hope but is there an otter box style case out for this yet?
Scared to smash it as I don't fancy repairing it.
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I've ordered about five different cases from eBay and Amazon. When I get them in, ill post my results.
I've ended up cancelling my order. Guess I can't handle the concept part as much as I thought.
ChodTheWacko said:
I saw a LOVE MEI powerful case for the MI mix on ebay.
I looks decent. Certainly the most protective case out there.
It'll make the mix pretty chunky but what can you do.
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Love mei will not create case for mi mix.
Ohh im so sorry. I was thinking about zerolemon.
And yes. I had love mei on my sg s3. Il lbuy it for mix
I just bought a new tougher case from eBay and I just recieved it today. So far I'm loving it, great hand feel and the corners have a little bit of extra cushion.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/360-Protect...hash=item543f7c2ba7:m:mQ_GyzsJA3be8_VklW7ZqwA
Considering I was using a thin clear Tpu case till now and I dropped my MI mix with no damage twice now with that very case. I'm positive this case will protect my phone really well.
neovalkyr said:
I just bought a new tougher case from eBay and I just recieved it today. So far I'm loving it, great hand feel and the corners have a little bit of extra cushion.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/360-Protect...hash=item543f7c2ba7:m:mQ_GyzsJA3be8_VklW7ZqwA
Considering I was using a thin clear Tpu case till now and I dropped my MI mix with no damage twice now with that very case. I'm positive this case will protect my phone really well.
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I ordered the same one.
It looks like the love Mei will make the phone a good ..... 1.5 cm? taller? That's too much for me, the MIX is barely pocketable as is.
What I mainly want is:
1) More protection on the corners
2) A thick lip around the screen to protect against front face-falls. (or just so I can lay the phone screen down with less worry)
Basically an urbanarmorgear type of case.
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Just noticed this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Slim-Silico...hash=item51f11b8c3e:m:mLw9P_jxAXUMPG59DBBUCAA21
Which is not bad! less padding on the corners, but decent lip and kickstand is welcome.
Edit2: and another one! Where were these 5 days ago?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Slim-Silico...hash=item1ebe3dc8ae:m:m4vgV61CHJtU_r21Z_Jfo1w
- Frank
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Slim-Silico...hash=item51f11b8c3e:m:mLw9P_jxAXUMPG59DBBUCAA21
This case kinda sucked. the buttons were very hard to push. The kickstand is extremely flimsy and it would probably break quickly.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Protection-...hash=item2378cfb0ef:m:mM9azb4ww9WvQezxYc-Wzcg
This one is not bad, and it's the one I'm using. It feels like tough rubber.
The buttons are easier to push than the stock case (volume easier than power).
There's probably 1 mm of lip thickness. better than stock case (which had what, half a mm?).
I'd like something thicker, but it's okay for now.
For MI MIX,DAYJOY Extreme Shockproof dirtproof snowproof Armor Tank Metal Heavy Duty sturdy Case with silicone back cover for XIAOMI MI MIX (YELLOW) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBLZGW6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_6xTBybS483WH7
So this just turned up on Amazon. Two different types. Many colors. This is on paper the best rugged case I've seen.
Have you tried it?
nikhil.mehta said:
For MI MIX,DAYJOY Extreme Shockproof dirtproof snowproof Armor Tank Metal Heavy Duty sturdy Case with silicone back cover for XIAOMI MI MIX (YELLOW) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBLZGW6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_6xTBybS483WH7
So this just turned up on Amazon. Two different types. Many colors. This is on paper the best rugged case I've seen.
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Have you tried it?
ytsu12 said:
Have you tried it?
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I find it funny and strange that some would want to use such case. You bought a phone without bezel and you put on a case that has so much bezel. Sure you won't break the phone but...don't know, it may just be me thinking that. I personally go for the low profile case to keep Mix's original style.
wu5262 said:
I find it funny and strange that some would want to use such case. You bought a phone without bezel and you put on a case that has so much bezel. Sure you won't break the phone but...don't know, it may just be me thinking that. I personally go for the low profile case to keep Mix's original style.
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Exactly my thoughts. Even I bought the Love Mei Powerful case considering how fragile this device is. But like you said, using the Love Mei case is like adding bezels to a bezel less device. The Mix would lose its advantange over other flagships at that point.
Then it got me thinking that I bought this device paying a premium over the current all round flagships, sacrificing the camera quality, all because I could experience the bezel-less display.
So I may return the Love Mei case or keep it for when the phone requires more protection during outings or outdoor activities.
I'll stick to slimmer cases that stick to the design while offering some form of shock absorption for my daily use.
Not my reason
wu5262 said:
I find it funny and strange that some would want to use such case. You bought a phone without bezel and you put on a case that has so much bezel. Sure you won't break the phone but...don't know, it may just be me thinking that. I personally go for the low profile case to keep Mix's original style.
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I am buying a phone because of the large screen, not the lack of bezel, it also has 6GB ram and a Snapdragon 821.
I do not care about thin bezels, I like the look of the phone, but without the extra grip/bezel (where I can more easily place my fingers and wrap my hand around the phone) my Ehlers danlos, psoriatic arthritis (mainly confined to my lower body, but it has been migrating), and my CRPS (a nerve disorder) make it very hard and painful for me to hold since most phones are so slippery and I can't provide the needed pressure to hold onto it. Which is why I had to give up a lot of cases which I liked on my 6P (the carved case, a few wood skins, and simpler hard plastic cases) just due to I wasn't able to hold the phone that well.
ytsu12 said:
I am buying a phone because of the large screen, not the lack of bezel, it also has 6GB ram and a Snapdragon 821.
I do not care about thin bezels, I like the look of the phone, but without the extra grip/bezel (where I can more easily place my fingers and wrap my hand around the phone) my Ehlers danlos, psoriatic arthritis (mainly confined to my lower body, but it has been migrating), and my CRPS (a nerve disorder) make it very hard and painful for me to hold since most phones are so slippery and I can't provide the needed pressure to hold onto it. Which is why I had to give up a lot of cases which I liked on my 6P (the carved case, a few wood skins, and simpler hard plastic cases) just due to I wasn't able to hold the phone that well.
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I think with this case: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBLZGW6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_6xTBybS483WH7
You can forget about the look of the phone, as this case pretty much cover up the whole phone and change it's dimension and body ratio. No one can tell it's a Mix you are using, or any other phone for that matter because this case is one of the highest profile case I have ever seen. But I do feel your pain, and I understand your need, I hope you find something suitable for you. And enjoy your phone! Everyone buys it for different reasons.
satishp said:
Then it got me thinking that I bought this device paying a premium over the current all round flagships, sacrificing the camera quality, all because I could experience the bezel-less display.
So I may return the Love Mei case or keep it for when the phone requires more protection during outings or outdoor activities.
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What are the dimensions of the Love mei case?
In particular, the height, which affects pocketability?
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wu5262 said:
I think with this case: You can forget about the look of the phone, as this case pretty much cover up the whole phone and change it's dimension and body ratio. No one can tell it's a Mix you are using
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Some people, like me, don't care.
Interestingly, I have yet to have anyone actually comment on my phone in public.
(although I don't exactly go waving it around or anything).
Also Most of my friends don't like big phones, so their first impression is usually "oh yuck, too big". ha ha ha
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What are the dimensions of the Love mei case?
In particular, the height, which affects pocketability?
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Some people, like me, don't care.
Interestingly, I have yet to have anyone actually comment on my phone in public.
(although I don't exactly go waving it around or anything).
Also Most of my friends don't like big phones, so their first impression is usually "oh yuck, too big". ha ha ha
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I did a quick search on how big this case actually is, i can't find data for Mix in particular, but the same case for other phones suggested that it's about 1cm on each side. so you have 1cm on left bezel, 1cm on right, 1cm on top and 1cm on bottom. I can't find out how much thickness it would add to the phone as it does has an extra gorilla glass. If you ever used an Otterbox case before, i think it has similar footprint. It would however adds quite a bit of weight to your phone due to it's material.
So 1cm at bottom may not a big deal, 1cm on top would however take off the bezel-less feeling of Mix, (i think that's the most noticeable part of Mix, the top). And 1cm for side bezel is not small either. It will quite simply make this bezel-less phone the most bezel phone in 2016.
Just for fun, original Mix has the following dimensions: 158.8 x 81.9 x 7.9 mm
If the info is correct and the Love Mei case does add 1cm (10mm) to all sides, it will make the dimension to be 178.8 x 101.9 x thickness unknown.
So on front screen (length x width) alone, you are looking at 40% size increase already. And you times that with whatever thickness the case adds so i guess we are looking at around 45% size increase at least. (Could be much more since LoveMei has quite an unique way to put on case with many different layers.
For quick comparision, the case I am using is adding 0.6mm instead of 10mm xD. But protection wise, you can't go run with LoveMei case. I feel like you can take this case to warzone and throw at people as a weapon.
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In particular, the height, which affects pocketability?
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Here is a link to their official page. They have a lot of pictures showing the phone in the case. As you can zee, it does increase the dimensions but not by much. Its just as if adding bezels to the device. Its definitely not 1cm on all sides as mentioned above. But more like 5mm. Also the case isn't very thick from what I see in the images.
Yes, your phone will look taller and wider than it actually is.
Mine is still on the way. Haven't received yet. Will update once I receive it.
Made some mistake in my calculation, if the lovemei case is adding 1cm on each side, on front screen alone, that's a 40% size increase already. Then you times that with the thickness to get the overall size increase.
While searching on net, saw some cases. Just posting in the forum as reference.
1) leather back case in ebay. the rim is gold color though. don't know how much protection this gives.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luxury-Plat...-Xiaomi-Mi-Mix-5s-Soft-TPU-Case-/322333960673
2) aluminium metal bumper case.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luxury-High...me-Case-Cover-For-Xiaomi-MI-Mix-/132052858181
3) ultra thin hard aluminium bumper case.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LUPHIE-Ultr...me-Case-Cover-For-Xiaomi-Mi-MIX-/252675545746
4) Finger ring case -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-Xiaomi-...nd-Hard-Plastic-Case-Cover-Rose-/262773183344
5) for the people who like leather flip cases.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mofi-Vintag...of-Cover-Case-For-Xiaomi-Mi-Mix-/112245767614

Pure Edition "Naked Phone Challenge" 2017

When I started using this device, I held it in a Cimo Grip TPU casing basically from day one, and while it doesn't look that great, it does add some badly needed grip on the edges. The other day, I had to remove the sim card, which required taking the TPU casing off, and while doing so, I realized that the Pure Edition looks a lot better without it. From here, I got to thinking - is this casing really necessary?
To answer that question, I set out on a seven day journey of daily life to find out by using the Moto X Pure Edition with no casing at all whatsoever. What I found is that it actually is somewhat functional without the TPU, (at least more so than other phones) but with some caveats. For propping/leaning the device up against plates and dishes for consuming multimedia in the kitchen, the rubber backing material actually offers just enough grip for this to work, as long as the angle is far enough back (too step up-and-down, and it'll slide down a bit). Beyond that, it also works pretty well for operating the device in one hand while sitting, standing, or walking around. In fact, the only situations that left me wishing for the TPU were when the device needed to be propped up at a steeper angle or when I was holding it by only the slick metal edges to take pictures or watch videos laying down. Also, the buttons are far too easy to activate accidentally.
So, after this strange experiment, will I go back to using the TPU? Probably. But maybe not all the time. The Pure Edition is actually more grippable than I originally gave it credit for. Also, I don't have to contend with the massive lip on the left and right edges of the screen that make it difficult to make selections there. I'm not sure how casings affect heat dissipation or wireless reception, but that could potentially be another reason to scale back on those types of accessories. I have considered switching to one of those "bumper" frame-only casings, (such as the Case-Mate Tough Frame) which solves the grip problem on the perimeter of the device while still leaving the back exposed, but I can't seem to be able to find one of those to purchase anywhere. Does anybody have any thoughts on those or know where to find one?
With that, what does everyone else think? Do you use your Pure Edition "naked" or do you use some kind of casing or bumper? If you do use casing, would you consider trying the 7-day Naked Phone Challenge?
Bill720 said:
With that, what does everyone else think? Do you use your Pure Edition "naked" or do you use some kind of casing or bumper? If you do use casing, would you consider trying the 7-day Naked Phone Challenge?
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I just wanna warn that you should be extra careful with a naked MXPE
it has a very beautiful design and the material is fantastic, no doubt in that. but when i got my mxpe last year, i was using it without any protection, not even the provided bumper (as i always prefer my phones)
one week later i was sitting on the ground with my phone in my pocket, as i stood up, it dropped down from a height of no more than 20cm, and the screen shattered as it fell down on its metal side
since then ive been using bumpers with mxpe, it's a delicate phone
I like my moto x the way I like my women. NAKED!!
I used the original bumper until it broke and I've been naked ever since.
good luck when your glass gets broken
While I like the phone and how it handles naked, I just don't trust it taking a fall off any height without a case. I still have the original bumper case but have never used it because it is seemingly made with brittle plastic. Of course I opted for the plain silicone backing so I really don't have any special back to show off. I'm more interested in OS function over cosmetic visibility so while the phone feels nice naked, I prefer not to have to replace the screen due to an accident.
Naked Phone Challenge 2017 Conclusion
Thanks for the thoughts everybody. After my week-long excursion of using the Pure Edition without "protection ," I went back to the Cimo TPU, but also kept my eyes open for alternatives. I was really hoping to find a "bumper" style TPU, like the Case-Mate Tough Frame, but was unable to locate one anywhere. This transparent TPU found on eBay seems to be the next best thing. It's much thinner than the Cimo and also doesn't have such a massive lip up on the edges of the screen, which makes it great for use without a screen protector. My only complaints are that the camera hole isn't perfectly lined up vertically and that it's really easy to see any dust that gets trapped.
Still, it provides the grip I need along with a pleasing aesthetic without making the phone any bigger than it needs to be, so I think this might just be a good compromise. Time will tell if it stays clear or becomes yellow.
For about a year, I kept my Moto X Style completely caseless. I dropped it several times too, and even though it looks a bit banged up and scratched on the edges, the rest of the phone and screen are fine. I just got a TPU case for it recently because I didn't want to push my luck. I do prefer it naked though
i never use screen protector or case
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Same here .. I have case I use occasionally.
Been using the phone naked for over 1.5 years. What's the use of having a good looking phone just to cover it up with some ugly case. People need to be careful when handling phones as they are so fragile.
Conspiracy theory...
Notstewie said:
Same here .. I have case I use occasionally.
Been using the phone naked for over 1.5 years. What's the use of having a good looking phone just to cover it up with some ugly case. People need to be careful when handling phones as they are so fragile.
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That's a good point. The number of people who break their phones, even these modern ultra-durable machines, is absolutely staggering. If they can't hold on to them, then a grippy TPU is essential. Or perhaps we've just uncovered the conspiracy behind the poor grip inherent in so many newer devices that still manage to garner praise from both the pundits and the peanut gallery.
naked from day one...
I used that bumper initially for a week and then threw it away. Since then its all naked and survived a few drops.
Using a phone naked is a way of paying respect to whoever designed it. What's the point of somebody designing a phone if its design will get covered by an ugly case?
Plus, Motorola thought about providing a bumper plastic protector -- it really worked for a while, until it broke apart.
One a jerk side note: people who cannot take care of something expensive should not spend money on that expensive thing. I always laugh at people who carry their iPhones with ugly cases; they don't deserve it due to their lack of attention.
1) Moto X pure as my main driver: everything stock
2) second-hand OnePlus 2 (PureNexus) as a backup
3) Moto 2015; later gifted to my father.
EsteBandido4444 said:
Using a phone naked is a way of paying respect to whoever designed it. What's the point of somebody designing a phone if its design will get covered by an ugly case?
Plus, Motorola thought about providing a bumper plastic protector -- it really worked for a while, until it broke apart.
One a jerk side note: people who cannot take care of something expensive should not spend money on that expensive thing. I always laugh at people who carry their iPhones with ugly cases; they don't deserve it due to their lack of attention.
1) Moto X pure as my main driver: everything stock
2) second-hand OnePlus 2 (PureNexus) as a backup
3) Moto 2015; later gifted to my father.
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While I can see your point, I can also see the other side of the fence. I didn't buy this phone because of the physical aesthetics, buy rather for the specs at the price range offered. I didn't spend extra money for the wood or leather backing. And given that accidents can happen, i have a protective case. And there were bumper cases at one point which allowed for the looks of the phone to show through to some degree while offering protection.
Fair points
EsteBandido4444 said:
One a jerk side note: people who cannot take care of something expensive should not spend money on that expensive thing. I always laugh at people who carry their iPhones with ugly cases; they don't deserve it due to their lack of attention.
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I agree with that as well to some degree, but more so for people who actually break their devices as a direct result of carelessness. As far as I'm concerned, they (in some ways) deserve a broken phone to help reinforce that lesson.
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While I can see your point, I can also see the other side of the fence. I didn't buy this phone because of the physical aesthetics, buy rather for the specs at the price range offered. I didn't spend extra money for the wood or leather backing. And given that accidents can happen, i have a protective case. And there were bumper cases at one point which allowed for the looks of the phone to show through to some degree while offering protection.
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This is also fair. I too have been looking for the elusive CaseMate Tough Frame, (the only grippy "bumper" available for the Pure Edition as far as I know) and nobody seems to have it in stock anymore. These days, I rotate between the black Cimo Grip TPU, the eBay Special transparent grip TPU, and nothing at all. Two of those let the aesthetic of the device shine through, but the very act of switching seems to freshen things up enough to keep the phone interesting.
totally understood points.
On a side note: Lenovo is destroying Motorola inside-out :'(
I prefer a quicksand finish back case (for the extra grip only) .

Bumper-only Case?

RhinoShield so far is the only option I've found for a BUMPER-ONLY case solution for our Note 9. I've bought this case twice after giving it a second chance and sent it back for the second time. The bumper frame itself is fine. It's got a fair amount of front lip to allow me to lay the phone face down to show off my Dbrand skin. Strangely enough, the lip on the back of the bumper frame is taller than the front.
Anyway, the biggest issue with this bumper-only case is the buttons. Oh my god, they have the worst buttons I've ever tried. I've mentioned in other threads that Spigen is the king when it comes to the buttons they build into their cases. They are raised a healthy amount so they're easily found and they have the best feedback ever. Very "clicky".
This RhinoShield bumper case buttons are so hard to register a click. They're too firm. The plastic is not soft at all. The second time I bought this case I tried pressing the buttons without the phone to try and soften them (like hundreds of pressings) and that did nothing to make them more malleable. I bought this case for the OnePlus 6T and the buttons on that case were just as ****ty as the one for the Note 9.
The other issue was the area around the S-Pen is too small, making retrieving of the pen more difficult compared to the dozens of cases I've tried before. I'm an average sized dude. My hands aren't huge but they're not small either. If I had longer nails maybe getting the S-Pen out would be easier but I don't.
Clear cases are not an option for me. They'll always reflect glare and distort the look of my drband skin. I just need a bumper-only solution. Just something to protect the edges of this phone. I cannot believe this type of case is not more popular. Like, why Spigen and others do not offer this as an option. Hell, if they could just make some kind of rubber band-like thing that I can wrap around the edges, that would be fair.
If anyone finds any BUMPER-ONLY cases, please share them with me. Thank you.
I've got one and I agree that the volume buttons are too stiff. I had to play / force them in and out with my plastic card holder edge to soften them a bit.
The lateral part are not that "firm" around the phone so unfortunately it feels a bit flabby.
It still makes the phone bulky, but according to one YouTube video where the guy toss the phone very high a few times without the phone being damaged at all, the protection is REALLY good.
roaduardo said:
RhinoShield so far is the only option I've found for a BUMPER-ONLY case solution for our Note 9. I've bought this case twice after giving it a second chance and sent it back for the second time. The bumper frame itself is fine. It's got a fair amount of front lip to allow me to lay the phone face down to show off my Dbrand skin. Strangely enough, the lip on the back of the bumper frame is taller than the front.
Anyway, the biggest issue with this bumper-only case is the buttons. Oh my god, they have the worst buttons I've ever tried. I've mentioned in other threads that Spigen is the king when it comes to the buttons they build into their cases. They are raised a healthy amount so they're easily found and they have the best feedback ever. Very "clicky".
This RhinoShield bumper case buttons are so hard to register a click. They're too firm. The plastic is not soft at all. The second time I bought this case I tried pressing the buttons without the phone to try and soften them (like hundreds of pressings) and that did nothing to make them more malleable. I bought this case for the OnePlus 6T and the buttons on that case were just as ****ty as the one for the Note 9.
The other issue was the area around the S-Pen is too small, making retrieving of the pen more difficult compared to the dozens of cases I've tried before. I'm an average sized dude. My hands aren't huge but they're not small either. If I had longer nails maybe getting the S-Pen out would be easier but I don't.
Clear cases are not an option for me. They'll always reflect glare and distort the look of my drband skin. I just need a bumper-only solution. Just something to protect the edges of this phone. I cannot believe this type of case is not more popular. Like, why Spigen and others do not offer this as an option. Hell, if they could just make some kind of rubber band-like thing that I can wrap around the edges, that would be fair.
If anyone finds any BUMPER-ONLY cases, please share them with me. Thank you.
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I meant to do a review of the rhinoshield to warn everyone how awful they are. I had the exact same esperience as you and to add insult to injury, when I contacted the company to voice my concern they wanted me to ship it back with me paying for the shipping and would only accept it if it was BRAND NEW WITH NO SIGN OF WEAR. Really? Very bad customer service and crappy product..
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I meant to do a review of the rhinoshield to warn everyone how awful they are. I had the exact same esperience as you and to add insult to injury, when I contacted the company to voice my concern they wanted me to ship it back with me paying for the shipping and would only accept it if it was BRAND NEW WITH NO SIGN OF WEAR. Really? Very bad customer service and crappy product..
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That why I bought that case from Amazon. Can't beat Prime.
I had Rhino bumper on SGS7, totally agree with you. Hard buttons and slipery material. My buttons chopped off after almost a year of wear and tear.
My gf is using Ringke Fusion (clear back case) + dbrand skin. It looks beautiful so I ordered same case for Note9 + dbrand skin. It looks much better with lighter skins. Darker skins looks great when there is enough light around you. In low light it acts almost like a mirror.
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No way I go back to Rhyno again. It's not bumper case but I don't mind to flip it over and show camo skin
roaduardo said:
RhinoShield so far is the only option I've found for a BUMPER-ONLY case solution for our Note 9. I've bought this case twice after giving it a second chance and sent it back for the second time. The bumper frame itself is fine. It's got a fair amount of front lip to allow me to lay the phone face down to show off my Dbrand skin. Strangely enough, the lip on the back of the bumper frame is taller than the front.
Anyway, the biggest issue with this bumper-only case is the buttons. Oh my god, they have the worst buttons I've ever tried. I've mentioned in other threads that Spigen is the king when it comes to the buttons they build into their cases. They are raised a healthy amount so they're easily found and they have the best feedback ever. Very "clicky".
This RhinoShield bumper case buttons are so hard to register a click. They're too firm. The plastic is not soft at all. The second time I bought this case I tried pressing the buttons without the phone to try and soften them (like hundreds of pressings) and that did nothing to make them more malleable. I bought this case for the OnePlus 6T and the buttons on that case were just as ****ty as the one for the Note 9.
The other issue was the area around the S-Pen is too small, making retrieving of the pen more difficult compared to the dozens of cases I've tried before. I'm an average sized dude. My hands aren't huge but they're not small either. If I had longer nails maybe getting the S-Pen out would be easier but I don't.
Clear cases are not an option for me. They'll always reflect glare and distort the look of my drband skin. I just need a bumper-only solution. Just something to protect the edges of this phone. I cannot believe this type of case is not more popular. Like, why Spigen and others do not offer this as an option. Hell, if they could just make some kind of rubber band-like thing that I can wrap around the edges, that would be fair.
If anyone finds any BUMPER-ONLY cases, please share them with me. Thank you.
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The only way you can fix the button issue, is get an Stanley blade and cut the sides of the button.. So the top and the bottom of the button is the only place where the plastic is connected.. Then they will be so easy to press!
I did that on my case on day 2, it helps but I wouldn't say it is enough. At the end, when my Rhyno bumper buttons wear I even tried to cut them out and flatten the area around button. I've got choped case with holes where buttons are placed and it was bad experience. Hard plastic, rough edges, not easy to dig and not pleasant to fingers. Too bad, unfortunately, I've used cases on same phone (sgs7 like I said) with much more tactile buttons so I gave up on Rhyno.
N1NJATH3ORY said:
The only way you can fix the button issue, is get an Stanley blade and cut the sides of the button.. So the top and the bottom of the button is the only place where the plastic is connected.. Then they will be so easy to press!
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I'm tempted to buy this case for the 3rd time and try this method but I don't know. The buttons are not raised enough to begin with. If they were as tall as buttons you'd find on Spigen cases, then for sure I'd try this razor method to try and fix the faulty design but I don't know.
I just cannot understand why RhinoShield is the only one making cases like this. Why is this type of case not more popular? Why would more users not want a bumper-only design. Why doesn't Dbrand and other skin makers not make a bumper-only case that helps show of their awesome skins better?
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I'm tempted to buy this case for the 3rd time and try this method but I don't know. The buttons are not raised enough to begin with. If they were as tall as buttons you'd find on Spigen cases, then for sure I'd try this razor method to try and fix the faulty design but I don't know.
I just cannot understand why RhinoShield is the only one making cases like this. Why is this type of case not more popular? Why would more users not want a bumper-only design. Why doesn't Dbrand and other skin makers not make a bumper-only case that helps show of their awesome skins better?
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I think what’s happened as Rhinoshield get there case made in China, plus they purchase in bulk, there has been a manufacturing defect...
So at the moment Rhinoshield are stuck with the defect stock, I asked the exact same thing they would not answer me.. LOL
Razor blade is your only option! Some user say it works fine others say it dont so it's your call!
Or you can wait until they get rid of this stock and order more stock without defect! But that could be in the note 10 days!
Plus they aren’t telling me when they will get new stock, so I am guessing!
roaduardo said:
I'm tempted to buy this case for the 3rd time and try this method but I don't know. The buttons are not raised enough to begin with. If they were as tall as buttons you'd find on Spigen cases, then for sure I'd try this razor method to try and fix the faulty design but I don't know.
I just cannot understand why RhinoShield is the only one making cases like this. Why is this type of case not more popular? Why would more users not want a bumper-only design. Why doesn't Dbrand and other skin makers not make a bumper-only case that helps show of their awesome skins better?
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I honestly don't think I've ever been pleased w/Rhinoshield's bumpers.
I gave 'em a shot only after this design/model from Nillkin disappeared,in the Note 3/4/5 days (guessing you had one) :
Supcase had something similar,but,it's nowhere to be found on devices from the past 2-3 yrs as well.
Anyhoo,I think the problem w/Rhinoshield is their marketing pitch is strength/brute protection & if they pared down the overall width/thickness & eased-up on the button stiffness,they'd fail on that account.
IIRC,I 1st gave Rhinoshield a shot w/the S8+ & found the fit to be way too loose. IDK how the button situation was,as I returned it as soon as I got an RMA.
The exact opposite w/the S9+,a very snug fit,but,the construction lended itself to adding too much width to the grip & the buttons were stiff.
It got little use & I tossed it in the garbage soon after taking delivery.
IDK why no one steps up to the plate & makes a backless bumper that has a decent fit/low profile & usable buttons,or,for that matter,just have cutouts for the buttons.
I get it on the less popular phones,but,I'd think it'd be profitable for at least one mfg (if not Samsung themselves) to make such a bumper for the Galaxy S & Note lineup.
I suppose we shouldn't be surprised,as we've seen feature loss since the good 'ol Note 4 days,the same applies to case variety....................................
KOLIOSIS said:
I honestly don't think I've ever been pleased w/Rhinoshield's bumpers.
I gave 'em a shot only after this design/model from Nillkin disappeared,in the Note 3/4/5 days (guessing you had one) :
Supcase had something similar,but,it's nowhere to be found on devices from the past 2-3 yrs as well.
Anyhoo,I think the problem w/Rhinoshield is their marketing pitch is strength/brute protection & if they pared down the overall width/thickness & eased-up on the button stiffness,they'd fail on that account.
IIRC,I 1st gave Rhinoshield a shot w/the S8+ & found the fit to be way too loose. IDK how the button situation was,as I returned it as soon as I got an RMA.
The exact opposite w/the S9+,a very snug fit,but,the construction lended itself to adding too much width to the grip & the buttons were stiff.
It got little use & I tossed it in the garbage soon after taking delivery.
IDK why no one steps up to the plate & makes a backless bumper that has a decent fit/low profile & usable buttons,or,for that matter,just have cutouts for the buttons.
I get it on the less popular phones,but,I'd think it'd be profitable for at least one mfg (if not Samsung themselves) to make such a bumper for the Galaxy S & Note lineup.
I suppose we shouldn't be surprised,as we've seen feature loss since the good 'ol Note 4 days,the same applies to case variety....................................
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I'm tempted to try and modify one of Supcase's clear backs but the razor knife that I have doesn't seem strong enough to slice through that kind of plastic because I've tried to modify some other cases I have to create a backless case. It's so, so, so stupid that case makers don't see the benefits of a bumper-only design. It's frustrating for users like me who don't drop their damn phones all the time. I haven't used a screen protector since my iPhone days and my displays have always been great during the time I've had them until I sold/donated them off to another user.
If only I could find some kind of rubber band material that I can wrap the edges of my phone. That's something that these case makers could do. Make rigid edges (with soft, clicky buttons) but top and bottom elastic material so there's a tight fit. Does that make sense? Because getting the phone in and out of a RhinoShield bumper case is difficult. Yet another design issue with their cases.
roaduardo said:
I'm tempted to try and modify one of Supcase's clear backs but the razor knife that I have doesn't seem strong enough to slice through that kind of plastic because I've tried to modify some other cases I have to create a backless case. It's so, so, so stupid that case makers don't see the benefits of a bumper-only design.
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I've tried modding a few cases where it had a clear distinction from the bumper part of the case & the back cover portion.
Same here,no success,as the remaining bumper didn't have enough rigidity to hold shape.
roaduardo said:
If only I could find some kind of rubber band material that I can wrap the edges of my phone. That's something that these case makers could do. Make rigid edges (with soft, clicky buttons) but top and bottom elastic material so there's a tight fit. Does that make sense? Because getting the phone in and out of a RhinoShield bumper case is difficult. Yet another design issue with their cases.
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I totally get your design idea.
It's a different take on the 2pc metal bumper design,but,w/o the necessary assembly (screws). Remove the screws from the design,build-in some elasticity on two of the sides for easy removal-installation,yet,still holding shape & retaining edge protection.
That's actually a very nice idea,perhaps you have a friend or two who have some experience w/CAD software & sell the idea/patent/etc.... to one of the case mfgs...................
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That's actually a very nice idea,perhaps you have a friend or two who have some experience w/CAD software & sell the idea/patent/etc.... to one of the case mfgs...................
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If only I had the time and resources. I'm happy to see someone else take this kind of thing and run with it so I can just get myself one case. I just need one for my 6T and one for my Note 9. lol
I got the rhino shield bumper, no trouble with the buttons, just not as clicky as I would like. It is also quite slippery and doesn't stay put on the vehicle dash.
With that said, my dbrand grip should be here in a week or so, it is the best case I have had, and loved it on my note 8. They are taking preorders still for shipment in Feburary, so check them out for a bumper style case.
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nuclearrage said:
I got the rhino shield bumper, no trouble with the buttons, just not as clicky as I would like. It is also quite slippery and doesn't stay put on the vehicle dash.
With that said, my dbrand grip should be here in a week or so, it is the best case I have had, and loved it on my note 8. They are taking preorders still for shipment in Feburary, so check them out for a bumper style case.
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Is it wrong to assume the dbrand grip would be almost impossible to pocket?
I was just about to order the Rhino Shield.
Dbrand is slightly bigger, but very VERY grippy. I wear Duluth Trading Co. Cargo pants and always have 2 phones in the front left cargo pocket.. also fits in my work shirt front pocket. Not sure about jeans or skinny fitting clothes.
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One thing that I really do not like the look of with this case is that there are no raised buttons. The sides of the case appear to be flat, which would make it hard to find the right buttons you're looking for in a pinch or when the phone is inside your pocket or bag.
It's the one thing that's holding me from ordering this case. It looks pretty thick. That's fine but in my opinion if the case is going to be a bit thick you may as well have easily accessible raised buttons on the sides.
I just wish, considering the advancement with 3D print tech, that we could just design our own unique case for our phones. A case the way we want/need it. Like, if I could just have one of Spigen's cases but just the bumper, just the edges and no backing.
roaduardo said:
One thing that I really do not like the look of with this case is that there are no raised buttons. The sides of the case appear to be flat, which would make it hard to find the right buttons you're looking for in a pinch or when the phone is inside your pocket or bag.
It's the one thing that's holding me from ordering this case. It looks pretty thick. That's fine but in my opinion if the case is going to be a bit thick you may as well have easily accessible raised buttons on the sides.
I just wish, considering the advancement with 3D print tech, that we could just design our own unique case for our phones. A case the way we want/need it. Like, if I could just have one of Spigen's cases but just the bumper, just the edges and no backing.
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It may have different texture for the buttons for us to feel them.
If you scroll a bit the page, you may see it.
dfwfreaks said:
Never like rhinoshield case.
They don't know how to make cases
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It's CrashGuard #3 for me today. Trying this case out for third time since it's the only viable option today for a bumper-only case.
I followed the advice of some users who suggested using a razor to slice into parts of the volume button grooves in order to make them more tactile. I'm happy to report that it worked pretty well. The buttons are actually registering clicks much easier than out of the box. Just to make it easier, I did the same thing for the power and Bixby button.
The other problem I had with this case is the area around the S-Pen makes it very difficult to remove the S-Pen. It's too small. I have average-sized hands and I have to use my pinky in order to get the S-Pen to eject. So I also modified that area and make some incisions with my razor. Then there's how tight the case can be as you try to put it on so skins can be pushed from the edges as you can see from the photos.
I just can't stand RhinoShield's tone-def response to criticisms to their CrashGuard cases. You have users reporting defective design features and they do nothing but push back with their half-baked suggestions to make their product work instead of correcting their design flaws.
They need to listen and stop deflecting. Spigen needs to also listen to us and give us a bumper-only solution.
dfwfreaks said:
Just get a tempered glass screen protector and D brand skin, bruh.
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Already had the Dbrand on for weeks and I've never used a screen protector on any Android phone. Last time I used a screen protector was on my iPhone 4s.

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