Ive been reading through the threads, and I havent been able to use my 64GB SDCARD on the latest firmware update, Ive tried formatting it on FAT32 and NFTS, it still wouldnt support whereas it supports my Samsung Galaxy note 10.1 . Ive read through the threads and it seems the only way to do so is by installing a rom which would require an irreversible bootloader unlock. Some of the threads suggests that the unlocking of the bootloader will slow down the processes and GPU of the tablet, and I really dont know personally and would like to find out if it is true, thank you.
If all you want to do is get the 64GB card to work, I would not unlock the bootloader. I'm sure there are other benefits, but doing so will void your warranty. I don't think it's worth it just to get a particular card to work.
I've seen 64GB cards work on the tablet before. I would try a different card or a different brand, and make sure it's formatted. Once you unlock the bootloader, there's no going back.
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If all you want to do is get the 64GB card to work, I would not unlock the bootloader. I'm sure there are other benefits, but doing so will void your warranty. I don't think it's worth it just to get a particular card to work.
I've seen 64GB cards work on the tablet before. I would try a different card or a different brand, and make sure it's formatted. Once you unlock the bootloader, there's no going back.
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I am also interested in unlocking the bootloader and testing out the roms and whatnot, but in posts it has claimed that the device slows down after unlocking it, not even flashing rom or anything that after it undergoes that process it significantly looses its graphical processing, I want to validate if this is true or not
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Ive been reading through the threads, and I havent been able to use my 64GB SDCARD on the latest firmware update, Ive tried formatting it on FAT32 and NFTS, it still wouldnt support whereas it supports my Samsung Galaxy note 10.1 . Ive read through the threads and it seems the only way to do so is by installing a rom which would require an irreversible bootloader unlock. Some of the threads suggests that the unlocking of the bootloader will slow down the processes and GPU of the tablet, and I really dont know personally and would like to find out if it is true, thank you.
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My Samsung 64G class 10 was working fine with the original bootloader but it was formatted in exFAT. I believed that FAT32 allocating table only supports up to 32G. In another word, you will loose about half of your MicroSD memory. Maybe someone with a better knowledge on this matter can give you a better explanation.
abhisek1994 said:
Ive been reading through the threads, and I havent been able to use my 64GB SDCARD on the latest firmware update, Ive tried formatting it on FAT32 and NFTS, it still wouldnt support whereas it supports my Samsung Galaxy note 10.1 . Ive read through the threads and it seems the only way to do so is by installing a rom which would require an irreversible bootloader unlock. Some of the threads suggests that the unlocking of the bootloader will slow down the processes and GPU of the tablet, and I really dont know personally and would like to find out if it is true, thank you.
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The firmware update did not have anything to do with the tablet not seeing the card. More likely it has to do with you formatting it. What have you used to format the card. Hopefully not Minitool....
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Noob question I know but I've tried reading up on the subject as much as I can - I still don't fully understand what exactly the locked loader does to this phone (aside from making it more difficult to root) and would really appreciate a brief explanation.
As I understand now the phone can be rooted, ROMs can be loaded (but they have to be specific to the VZW S3 right?), and full recovery options as well. Basically wondering what the disadvantages are and if they're more significant than just a little more work to root/mod the phone? Much thanks!
It prevents root access, you know jail breaking. You can't control your rom. You use the one provided to you by Verizon with all their bloatware. You can't change what software was delivered to you.
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It prevents changing boot.img
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Noob question I know but I've tried reading up on the subject as much as I can - I still don't fully understand what exactly the locked loader does to this phone (aside from making it more difficult to root) and would really appreciate a brief explanation.
As I understand now the phone can be rooted, ROMs can be loaded (but they have to be specific to the VZW S3 right?), and full recovery options as well. Basically wondering what the disadvantages are and if they're more significant than just a little more work to root/mod the phone? Much thanks!
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A locked bootloader is ultimately intended to prevent you from potentially costing the carrier $money$ by:
Bricking your phone and then playing dumb when you return it for an exchange. (people on xda opening admit to this kind of fraud. kinda sad. you brick it you keep it!, or buy another)
Modifying your phone and then blaming bugs on the carrier. A support vampire.
Assuring content providers they've made exclusive deals with that their content is "secure".
Great Question!
If your phone was a Windows 7 computer....
If you rooted it, you'd have an account with Administrator access.
As for the bootloader... Suppose you wanted to upgrade to Windows 8, even though it hasn't been authorized by your ISP, on this Windows 7 computer with a locked bootloader.
You cant, c:\windows is locked. If you change anything in that directory, your Windows 7 computer will start, but only to display "Invalid System Software Installed! Please shutdown and return this computer to your ISP's store for assistance."
What we have on Verizon, is a phone with admin rights (rooted), where we can't re-install the software needed to boot a different operating system.
If you're interested in more detail on how the hardware prevents the bootloader from being cracked, and what the attack vectors are, you might be interested in the presentation linked from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766638
(And yes I know that c:\windows isn't actually the boot partition on windows. Just trying to make it easier for the OP to understand.)
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Great Question!
If your phone was a Windows 7 computer....
If you rooted it, you'd have an account with Administrator access.
As for the bootloader... Suppose you wanted to upgrade to Windows 8, even though it hasn't been authorized by your ISP, on this Windows 7 computer with a locked bootloader.
You cant, c:\windows is locked. If you change anything in that directory, your Windows 7 computer will start, but only to display "Invalid System Software Installed! Please shutdown and return this computer to your ISP's store for assistance."
What we have on Verizon, is a phone with admin rights (rooted), where we can't re-install the software needed to boot a different operating system.
If you're interested in more detail on how the hardware prevents the bootloader from being cracked, and what the attack vectors are, you might be interested in the presentation linked from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766638
(And yes I know that c:\windows isn't actually the boot partition on windows. Just trying to make it easier for the OP to understand.)
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Thank you for this explanation, I found it helpful to hear such an analogy.
jmacko said:
Great Question!
If your phone was a Windows 7 computer....
If you rooted it, you'd have an account with Administrator access.
As for the bootloader... Suppose you wanted to upgrade to Windows 8, even though it hasn't been authorized by your ISP, on this Windows 7 computer with a locked bootloader.
You cant, c:\windows is locked. If you change anything in that directory, your Windows 7 computer will start, but only to display "Invalid System Software Installed! Please shutdown and return this computer to your ISP's store for assistance."
What we have on Verizon, is a phone with admin rights (rooted), where we can't re-install the software needed to boot a different operating system.
If you're interested in more detail on how the hardware prevents the bootloader from being cracked, and what the attack vectors are, you might be interested in the presentation linked from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766638
(And yes I know that c:\windows isn't actually the boot partition on windows. Just trying to make it easier for the OP to understand.)
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Thanks that really helped. So in the example of Jelly Bean -sounds like we need to wait for Verizon to release a version of it? Do all custom ROMs as well have to be based off of the VZW file that checks ok with the bootloader?
I'm really only concerned with Jelly Bean (knowing how long VZW takes to release stuff) and that wifi nag screen, I want to punch someone in the nose every time i see it...I will check out that presentation over lunch, would love to learn all about the details.
interesting and helpful topic.. however.. i thought i understood the locked bootloader situation on my droid bionic i could flash any rom i wanted to in conjunction with bootstrap wich i believe to be a bootloader by pass based recovery but no kernals were able to be flashed that is what i understood to be a locked b.l was not overclocking or custom kernals maybe i was wrong this whole time..
Bfitz26 said:
interesting and helpful topic.. however.. i thought i understood the locked bootloader situation on my droid bionic i could flash any rom i wanted to in conjunction with bootstrap wich i believe to be a bootloader by pass based recovery but no kernals were able to be flashed that is what i understood to be a locked b.l was not overclocking or custom kernals maybe i was wrong this whole time..
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Weird this is how i understood it as well. I'm coming from the Droid X2 and thanks do DK we had cm9 up and running with ICS but the bootloader was locked down. I took it that bootstrap is a recovery tool that works in a way of when your phone is off and you plug it in you boot up to the bootloader. This would allow you to re-flash a rom if your current one was corrupt.
So in my mind you can run different roms and different android versions its just harder to get them on the phone. But from what i've seen you cant flash a new kernal if the bootloader is locked.
Maybe i miss understood this if so i really would like to know fully how this works
On the verizon gs3 the locked bootloader is keeping us from flashing a custom kernel thru odin...we can root and flash a custom rom / recovery but it has to utilize the stock kernel currently. Our bootloader debacle is nothing like moto devices and I wish folks would stop comparing the 2!
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On the verizon gs3 the locked bootloader is keeping us from flashing a custom kernel thru odin...we can root and flash a custom rom / recovery but it has to utilize the stock kernel currently. Our bootloader debacle is nothing like moto devices and I wish folks would stop comparing the 2!
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Exactly, what a locked bootloader will allow you to do will vary on different phones and firmwares. I've known some which would not even allow you to flash a recovery.
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I really hope we get the bootloader unlocked would love to see cm on this phone with some of invisblek's great kernels. btw will I be able to even usrge "set cpu" to overclock and under clock with verizon stock kernal or can this be done with tweaks in the build.prop file, forgive me if this sounds stupid its been a while and I am a samsung's odin first time user.
Sadly this is the outcome of Americans NOT buying a device without a subsidy from the carrier.
Kind of like whining about NOT getting the best Porterhouse steak when buying with food stamps......
I would love to see an end to carrier subsidies.
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I am disappointed in samsung they start to look like Apple can not my apps to my sd card write that they have locked that 2
I like all am excited about the bootloader finally being unlocked. Question is if it even matters. When running the batch file does the zip folder or file need to be on the phone (memory/ext sd card) to run it. I did it right from my windows desktop and it ran fine and finished but not sure if it really did anything.
aliasgx said:
I like all am excited about the bootloader finally being unlocked. Question is if it even matters.
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Unlocking the boatloader will keep this from being the backwater of the Galaxy world. Now the d2vzw is the best phone on the best network in the US, without any reservation. In the really short term we won't see any difference, but it will lead to more developer interest. Developers can build ROMs for the device using the skills they already know without the hassle of learning Kexec and a different boot process. It'll allow official CyanogenMod support, and hopefully more cross-pollination with the other US GS3 variants. So yes, we wanted this.
Hi all, new to the site.. I have been trying to find sites on google to help me understand better about unlocked tablets.
I recently bought an Asus TF300T transformer pad on ebay, the seller told me everything was in excellent condition except when the machine is powering up, there is a message in the corner that says ' Device is unlocked'. I started researching on this a little and Ive found that the asus tablet has its bootloader unlocked, and it leads to rooting.
I really have no desire to root, this will be a present to someone i care about. Unfortunately i cannot return the item as the seller has stated nonreturns are available. So my question is, if i happen to leave the bootloader unlocked, but not root at all, is there any longtime problem that will occur? Im worried about not being able to update to the latest software. Hope Im in the right place asking this question.
Yamato Cannon said:
Hi all, new to the site.. I have been trying to find sites on google to help me understand better about unlocked tablets.
I recently bought an Asus TF300T transformer pad on ebay, the seller told me everything was in excellent condition except when the machine is powering up, there is a message in the corner that says ' Device is unlocked'. I started researching on this a little and Ive found that the asus tablet has its bootloader unlocked, and it leads to rooting.
I really have no desire to root, this will be a present to someone i care about. Unfortunately i cannot return the item as the seller has stated nonreturns are available. So my question is, if i happen to leave the bootloader unlocked, but not root at all, is there any longtime problem that will occur? Im worried about not being able to update to the latest software. Hope Im in the right place asking this question.
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Ok, there is no long term issue with unlocked device. The pros: you can install custom rom/kernel to make your device runs faster. Cons, you will have to manually upgrade your firmware, the OTA update is no longer works for unlocked device. In short unlock without rooting or unlock with rooting have NO EFFECT on your device,
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Ok, there is no long term issue with unlocked device. The pros: you can install custom rom/kernel to make your device runs faster. Cons, you will have to manually upgrade your firmware, the OTA update is no longer works for unlocked device. In short unlock without rooting or unlock with rooting have NO EFFECT on your device,
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Hi buhohitr, thanks for giving me that answer. I also forgot to put this down but can the tablet, being unlocked that is without roooting, can it still download apps from google store without any problems? and will the apps run just as it would on a locked tablet? Thank you again for your previous answer, appreciate it.
As the other guys said, the only things that change are the lack of OTA updates, the manufacturers warranty is void due to the unlocking, and that the user can (whenever they feel like it) install a custom ROM.
Everything else remains exactly the same, like being able to use/download apps and stuff.
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SteveG12543 said:
As the other guys said, the only things that change are the lack of OTA updates, the manufacturers warranty is void due to the unlocking, and that the user can (whenever they feel like it) install a custom ROM.
Everything else remains exactly the same, like being able to use/download apps and stuff.
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Thank you SteveG and Buhohitr, sorry if this was posted in the wrong section.
Bought my Huawei G520 direct from China
Never occured to me that it would have no access to google apps
Anyway I found out the bootloader was also locked so i couldn't flash anything (except for those complete roms with INSTALL file)
Sent an email to Huawei with phone details requesting the code to unlock the bootloader
They sent me the code the very next day!!!
With the message "Thanks for supporting Huawei"
Brilliant
but my hopes were soon dashed - the phone *still* wont root??????????????????
I must of tried 10 different root methods and how I haven't bricked it I'll never no - but they all fail at some point
I mean, the bootloader is now definitely UNlocked, (it reports UNLOCKED and used to report LOCKED), it even has clockwork mod on it some how and it works fine, but any attempt to install roms fail
I have Rom Explorer on the phone and that quite clearly says the phone is not rooted???
I dont know whats going on?
Any ideas what else might be locked on it?
JethroUK said:
Bought my Huawei G520 direct from China
Never occured to me that it would have no access to google apps
Anyway I found out the bootloader was also locked so i couldn't flash anything (except for those complete roms with INSTALL file)
Sent an email to Huawei with phone details requesting the code to unlock the bootloader
They sent me the code the very next day!!!
With the message "Thanks for supporting Huawei"
Brilliant
but my hopes were soon dashed - the phone *still* wont root??????????????????
I must of tried 10 different root methods and how I haven't bricked it I'll never no - but they all fail at some point
I mean, the bootloader is now definitely UNlocked, (it reports UNLOCKED and used to report LOCKED), it even has clockwork mod on it some how and it works fine, but any attempt to install roms fail
I have Rom Explorer on the phone and that quite clearly says the phone is not rooted???
I dont know whats going on?
Any ideas what else might be locked on it?
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It sounds like a filesystem issue, maybe a hardware problem, like bad flash memory. Are you able to install apps and copy files to it?
Did you install CWM, or did it come with it?
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It sounds like a filesystem issue, maybe a hardware problem, like bad flash memory. Are you able to install apps and copy files to it?
Did you install CWM, or did it come with it?
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I think cwm just appeared after running one of the rooting tools
Have no trouble installing apps and copying files over
From what I have read, the answer is no but I have some more questions so I guess Id ask anyway.
Transformer was very expensive and I have more than a year of warranty left. On the other hand I would very much like some of the features that require root. What action is possible to roll back? Unlocking, rooting or flashing a custom rom? I need to unlock the device before I can root it right?
I would use a number of features that rooting allows, but my main desire is to be able to use keyboard dock and mouse or even a gamepad as game controllers. Only program that can do that (joy2touch) requires root. But if I had root I guess I would try Cyanogenmod too because I can only see people praising it for how greatly it improves experience.
Also, there is lots of information around here but its still not dumb enough for someone who just wants to root a device but has no idea where to start (its pretty confusing). So sorry in advance for possibly asking obvious questions.
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From what I have read, the answer is no but I have some more questions so I guess Id ask anyway.
Transformer was very expensive and I have more than a year of warranty left. On the other hand I would very much like some of the features that require root. What action is possible to roll back? Unlocking, rooting or flashing a custom rom? I need to unlock the device before I can root it right?
I would use a number of features that rooting allows, but my main desire is to be able to use keyboard dock and mouse or even a gamepad as game controllers. Only program that can do that (joy2touch) requires root. But if I had root I guess I would try Cyanogenmod too because I can only see people praising it for how greatly it improves experience.
Also, there is lots of information around here but its still not dumb enough for someone who just wants to root a device but has no idea where to start (its pretty confusing). So sorry in advance for possibly asking obvious questions.
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If you just want root to use joy2touch, then your warranty is still good. If you unlock your device, then your warranty is voided... you can find more information about unlock and root here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212
Good luck..:fingers-crossed:
Yes but, there is rooting for either unlocked devices or devices running ICS or lower. And whatever rooting for JB I found (im running newest OTA) is only for unlocked devices as well. As I understand it, rooting does not void the warranty but unlocking does? Does that mean im screwed? I dont even know the difference between unlocking and rooting...
3DeX said:
Yes but, there is rooting for either unlocked devices or devices running ICS or lower. And whatever rooting for JB I found (im running newest OTA) is only for unlocked devices as well. As I understand it, rooting does not void the warranty but unlocking does? Does that mean im screwed? I dont even know the difference between unlocking and rooting...
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A rooting is allowed you to access your system files so you can modify them as will. A unlocking is allowed you to install custom rom and recovery. Someone else may have a better explaination for you.
No, you still can root your device if you have a bootloader .8 or earlier. If you have the latest bootloader, you can downgrade and root it..
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No, you still can root your device if you have a bootloader .8 or earlier. If you have the latest bootloader, you can downgrade and root it..
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Rooting exploits a bug in the kernel, not in the bootloader, so it's the ROM/kernel build 10.6.1.14.8, not the bootloader build. But it's always the same on locked devices anyway.
Uhm... you are confusing me even more. So is there a rooting guide that doesnt involve unlocking, can be reverted or doesnt void warranty, and works with newest stock OTA?
To my knowledge I dont have any kind of bootloader.
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Rooting exploits a bug in the kernel, not in the bootloader, so it's the ROM/kernel build 10.6.1.14.8, not the bootloader build. But it's always the same on locked devices anyway.
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Thanks _that. What I meant is the latest firmware from Asus.
@3DeX
1. Download the Asus firmware 10.6.1.14.8
2. Backup your personal data and everything that you like to keep to your computer or your external SD.
3. Make sure that your battery is full so it is not shutdown during the installing process..
4. Unzip it once because there is another zip file insde it.
5. Copy the second zip file to the root directory of your internal SD.
6. Reboot your tablet.
7. After reboot, you will see the downgrade notification in the lower right corner.
8. Click on the downgrade notification and follow the instructions.
9. During the installing process, Do not try to turn it off. It will reboot by itself when the installation is completed. It may take 2 to 3 minutes..
10. Use motochopper to root your device.
Good luck..