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Power plug charging sometimes

I have a power plug and sometimes charges and sometimes don't. It also gets hot after about 10mins of charge but it is charging.
I know there has been a few faults but has anyone experienced this charging sometimes and hot to the touch?

The charger getting hot is a good sign; that shows that it is working. The charger will get (very) hot during charging and will cool off when it is done charging.
My recommendation to fix the sometimes charging/sometimes not charging problem is to pull the cord out of the plug unit and plug them back together. The cord is a little finicky and so it might need to be reseated. Make sure the cord is plugged ALL the way into the plug unit (it can be a little hard to get them to be perfectly together).

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hipertec said:
I have a power plug and sometimes charges and sometimes don't. It also gets hot after about 10mins of charge but it is charging.
I know there has been a few faults but has anyone experienced this charging sometimes and hot to the touch?
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I have called Asus on this issue and while they agreed to RMA the charger I just can't be without it right now so i wait. Chargers getting warm are normal, but chargers getting as hot as mine does is not normal and not good. I would estimate this charger is getting in the 160-180 degree range. Mine has also failed to charge on one occasion. One post i ran across said to change the polarity of the charger by turning it over so that the word ASUS is upside down when the viewing the outlet with the ground pin below the prongs. Seemed to help but not sure if its actually better or just wishful thinking, ymmv.

roryhawke said:
I have called Asus on this issue and while they agreed to RMA the charger I just can't be without it right now so i wait. Chargers getting warm are normal, but chargers getting as hot as mine does is not normal and not good. I would estimate this charger is getting in the 160-180 degree range. Mine has also failed to charge on one occasion. One post i ran across said to change the polarity of the charger by turning it over so that the word ASUS is upside down when the viewing the outlet with the ground pin below the prongs. Seemed to help but not sure if its actually better or just wishful thinking, ymmv.
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Turning the charger over does not effect the heating of the charger, it simply eliminates the possibility of stray AC voltage on the shield of the cable and frame of the TF. The heating of the charger is caused by inefficiencies in the inexpensive charger and fact that it appears to be working close to its design limit. A few tips that have worked for me.
Use an outlet that good air circulation around it.
If used on an extension cord. sit on a heat conductive surface not on a carpet.
If tablet and dock are deeply discharged, charge separately and allow charger to cool between charge sessions.
If the charger gets too hot, it appears to shut off. Allowing it to cool generally gets it going again.

ASUS said i spoilt the power plug
sigh...i bought 2 units of EEE PAD **** TRANSFORMER...2 of the power plugs also loose...after 2 weeks of use...they said i spoilt the plugs and is not under warranty..i need to buy replacement...
how low quality is ASUS product or eee product...????

hipertec said:
I have a power plug and sometimes charges and sometimes don't. It also gets hot after about 10mins of charge but it is charging.
I know there has been a few faults but has anyone experienced this charging sometimes and hot to the touch?
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The charger and plug for the wall are a 2 piece unit. Ensure that that end that contains the wall prongs is seated all the way down. There is a line between the 2 units. The pieces on both sides of the line should be flush.
Regarding temperature, mine gets pretty warm. Warm enough that I would not want to handle it.

[Q] How does wireless charging works?

This might look like a stupid question. But I really wanted to know how is a phone charged without a wire connection. I mean you need to pass electrons while charging right? There must be a layer of air(No matter how slight) in-between the charger and the device which has a resistance of about 10^13 to 10^16 ohms. So how does the electrons passes through this layer?

Induction

Krazhil said:
Induction
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Thanks. I just got it. The process is something like an electric transformer. Just one part of it is on the charger side, and the other is inside the Cell phone. So ain't we wasting a lot of power through the process. I mean efficiency is never 100%, is it?

I believe the wasted power is related to the coil's material (the less resistive, the less dissipated power).
So yes, efficiency could never be 100% because there's no material with 0 resistivity.

Slazur said:
So yes, efficiency could never be 100% because there's no material with 0 resistivity.
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I mentioned compared with the wired charger. It's wastage r8? And it's not really wireless(got a cable between the charger and wall socket) so what's the point?

I can't recall correctly, but there will be a little bit more of wasted power compared to wired charging (due to the air's permeability to let the electromagnetic field produced by the coil "flow")
Well yes, it's still wired, but the joke is to not plug the phone.
Personally, I always charge my phone on the same spot when I'm home, so it certainly could come in handy.

Slazur said:
Well yes, it's still wired, but the joke is to not plug the phone.
Personally, I always charge my phone on the same spot when I'm home, so it certainly could come in handy.
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So you are keeping the charger plugged into the wall socket all the time? If not than I still didn't get the point why if yes you are wasting a lots of energy of over the day. I thought we are looking for an energy efficient world. I'm I wrong?
I do support if it's built inside a cars dashboard or something like that. Just to put the phone on your dashboard and it's charging. But in case of home still wired is better. Though if it was something like wifi that could work from a distance would make a good point. You know what I mean....

[Q] Phone warm when charging wirelessly?

I just got myself a Nokia DT-900 Wireless charger (Got it at a clearance at the Nokia store) for use with my Nexus 5 and my Nexus 7.
I charged the nexus 5 with it now. While it charges perfectly, even with a case on, the back of the phone gets a little warm. Not hot, just warm. I was wondering if this is any cause for concern, or if this is normal. Have not tried with my nexus 7 though.
Does the nexus 5/7 work perfectly with the Nokia wireless charger, or is it Incompatibility that is causing the phone to warm up a little?

srivas95 said:
I just got myself a Nokia DT-900 Wireless charger (Got it at a clearance at the Nokia store) for use with my Nexus 5 and my Nexus 7.
I charged the nexus 5 with it now. While it charges perfectly, even with a case on, the back of the phone gets a little warm. Not hot, just warm. I was wondering if this is any cause for concern, or if this is normal. Have not tried with my nexus 7 though.
Does the nexus 5/7 work perfectly with the Nokia wireless charger, or is it Incompatibility that is causing the phone to warm up a little?
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I noticed the same thing with a LG Qi charger. This is my first wireless charger and I believe that it's normal.

Primokorn said:
I noticed the same thing with a LG Qi charger. This is my first wireless charger and I believe that it's normal.
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If the same thing happens with the Official LG Nexus charger, then it must be normal. Thanks!

srivas95 said:
If the same thing happens with the Official LG Nexus charger, then it must be normal. Thanks!
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It's actually this one: http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-WCP-300-Wireless-Charging/dp/B00C6VP03I

Primokorn said:
It's actually this one: http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-WCP-300-Wireless-Charging/dp/B00C6VP03I
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As it's an LG, I doubt it's any different from the Nexus one. Both have the same specs. Have emailed Google regarding this, their reply was the standard 'We do not recommend using Non-Nexus chargers for Nexus devices'. I told them all QI chargers were actually supposed to work, and am awaiting their reply. Will follow up on this.

i get worried with how wireless charging heats up my phone, so i try to avoid it

Enddo said:
i get worried with how wireless charging heats up my phone, so i try to avoid it
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I bought a QI wireless charger when I purchased the phone based on excellent reviews on Amazon. I've since stopped using it just because of random overheating and generally the phone was warmer than when charging via USB. It was a feeling that overtime my phone would suffer.
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3DSammy said:
I bought a QI wireless charger when I purchased the phone based on excellent reviews on Amazon. I've since stopped using it just because of random overheating and generally the phone was warmer than when charging via USB. It was a feeling that overtime my phone would suffer.
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my thoughts exactly

Wireless charging, by its very nature, generates a small amount of heat. It is perfectly normal for your phone to get a bit warm whenever you're charging via any means, but especially when wireless charging. The key is the phrase "a bit warm." It should never be hot to the touch, just warm. The phone was designed to handle this, and there will be no adverse effects. In fact, the heat generated is much less than is generated by the CPU during heavy use (such as during a graphic intensive game).
I regularly use my phone with the official nexus charger (in my car), the Nokia DT-910 (the stand-up version of the DT-900 -- my main overnight charger), and the Samsung S-Charger Pad (at work). All are perfectly compatible with the N5. In fact, the only name-brand charger I'd steer clear of is the Tylt Vu, because there have been numerous incidents of overheating with that charger (i.e., the phone gets very hot to the touch).

3DSammy said:
I bought a QI wireless charger when I purchased the phone based on excellent reviews on Amazon. I've since stopped using it just because of random overheating and generally the phone was warmer than when charging via USB. It was a feeling that overtime my phone would suffer.
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Sent google a screenshot of my Battery info and temp while it was at max temp, they said there are no issues with it

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Wireless charging, by its very nature, generates a small amount of heat. It is perfectly normal for your phone to get a bit warm whenever you're charging via any means, but especially when wireless charging. The key is the phrase "a bit warm." It should never be hot to the touch, just warm.
I regularly use my phone with the official nexus charger (in my car), the Nokia DT-910 (the stand-up version of the DT-900, and my main overnight charger), and the Samsung S-Charger Pad (at work). All are perfectly compatible with the N5. In fact, the only name-brand charger I'd steer clear of is the Tylt Vu, because there have been numerous incidents of overheating with that charger (i.e., the phone gets very hot to the touch).
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Yep, I read online that the Tylt Vu has some issues.
I spoke to Google about the Nokia charger, and they said the temp of the phone is normal. They did warn me that the Nokia does not cut charging automatically when it gets to 100%, and that I should Take it off manually

Using a case increases the distance between the phone and coil which can cause the phone to heat up even more. Even wired charging heats the battery so some extra warmth from the 25% lost energy seems normal.
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bblzd said:
Using a case increases the distance between the phone and coil which can cause the phone to heat up even more. Even wired charging heats the battery so some extra warmth from the 25% lost energy seems normal.
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Okay, Maybe I should remove the case and try charging it

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Wireless charging, by its very nature, generates a small amount of heat. It is perfectly normal for your phone to get a bit warm whenever you're charging via any means, but especially when wireless charging. The key is the phrase "a bit warm." It should never be hot to the touch, just warm. The phone was designed to handle this, and there will be no adverse effects. In fact, the heat generated is much less than is generated by the CPU during heavy use (such as during a graphic intensive game).
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Lots of people who use wireless chargers say this but I am still skeptical. I would like to see battery capacity tests from two of the same devices. One that was only charged with wireless charging and the other only charged via USB.
My money says the wireless charged device will have significantly less battery capacity than the usb charged device after 1-2 years of use.

Enddo said:
Lots of people who use wireless chargers say this but I am still skeptical. I would like to see battery capacity tests from two of the same devices. One that was only charged with wireless charging and the other only charged via USB.
My money says the wireless charged device will have significantly less battery capacity than the usb charged device after 1-2 years of use.
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Yes, But seeing as most of us use the phone for only 1-2 years, I personally don't see a difference. Maybe the battery will lose capacity over time, but that's going to happen anyway. This will maybe speed up the process by about 20%.

Enddo said:
My money says the wireless charged device will have significantly less battery capacity than the usb charged device after 1-2 years of use.
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That may be true, but that argument lies on shaky ground, since there are a lot of other ways you can (theoretically) reduce battery life as well. In theory, not allowing the battery to drain completely during each charge cycle, or not removing the phone from the charger the instant it's fully charged can reduce battery life, yet nobody charges their phone that way. There's also the counter-argument that plugging the charging cable in every single day can prematurely wear out, or break, the (very fragile) USB connector on the phone, which would result in the inability to charge at all. (I went through SOOO many Galaxy Nexuses... Nexes? Nexii? Whatever... because of that issue.)
The point is that sometimes, convenience takes priority over the possibility of slightly reduced battery life, and it's hard to argue against the convenience of wireless charging.
Plus, as Srivas95 stated, most of us will move on to the next device long before any such battery degradation becomes an issue.

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That may be true, but that argument lies on shaky ground, since there are a lot of other ways you can (theoretically) reduce battery life as well. In theory, not allowing the battery to drain completely during each charge cycle, or not removing the phone from the charger the instant it's fully charged can reduce battery life, yet nobody charges their phone that way. There's also the counter-argument that plugging the charging cable in every single day can prematurely wear out, or break, the (very fragile) USB connector on the phone, which would result in the inability to charge at all. (I went through SOOO many Galaxy Nexuses... Nexes? Nexii? Whatever... because of that issue.)
The point is that sometimes, convenience takes priority over the possibility of slightly reduced battery life, and it's hard to argue against the convenience of wireless charging.
Plus, as Srivas95 stated, most of us will move on to the next device long before any such battery degradation becomes an issue.
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which is fine. i just plan on using my N5 longer than a couple years and will do what i can to keep it as healthy as possible

Enddo said:
which is fine. i just plan on using my N5 longer than a couple years and will do what i can to keep it as healthy as possible
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Whatever works for you man. To each his own

joneytatya said:
Have you been using the official nexus charger? Mine used to heat the phone earlier before I bought this one from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Nexus-Wireless-Charger-Smartphones-Tablets/dp/B00GN1YKBU
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I tried with my friend's Official Nexus Charger, Phone still got a little warm. It's okay though, Now that Google have confirmed it with me. No issues

jt3 said:
That may be true, but that argument lies on shaky ground, since there are a lot of other ways you can (theoretically) reduce battery life as well. In theory, not allowing the battery to drain completely during each charge cycle, or not removing the phone from the charger the instant it's fully charged can reduce battery life, yet nobody charges their phone that way. There's also the counter-argument that plugging the charging cable in every single day can prematurely wear out, or break, the (very fragile) USB connector on the phone, which would result in the inability to charge at all. (I went through SOOO many Galaxy Nexuses... Nexes? Nexii? Whatever... because of that issue.)
The point is that sometimes, convenience takes priority over the possibility of slightly reduced battery life, and it's hard to argue against the convenience of wireless charging.
Plus, as Srivas95 stated, most of us will move on to the next device long before any such battery degradation becomes an issue.
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What you say is right, my Nexus 5 has been with me for just 4 months and I can already see that the jack is kind of loose. That is one of the reasons I got a wireless charger in the first place.

[q] Wireless Charging Vs Wired Charging - Impact on Battery

Hey guys,
I was looking for some clarification on this topic.
So I heard on a youtube video (can't remember which, for the life of me, I just know it was an S8 video) that Wireless Charging has a better impact on battery in the long run.
They had stated that the battery would continue to hold a better charge over time, where as, if you used wired charging, the amount of charge the battery can hold over time would be much less to when you first got it.
Now I do know that battery gets worse over time, however, I have never heard anything about how wireless charging can increase the longitivtiy of the battery.
Maybe someone on here might have more information on this?
I will try to find that youtube video but if this is the case, then I will definitely need to get a wireless charger.
Regards

Unless this youtuber tested 2 phones for a year, charging one with a cable and another with wireless charging i wouldn't listen to what they're saying.

peachpuff said:
Unless this youtuber tested 2 phones for a year, charging one with a cable and another with wireless charging i wouldn't listen to what they're saying.
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Yeah I agree. A believe a charge cycle is the same regardless of how it is being charged.
Would never think wired charging puts more stress on battery life.

I think though that with wireless charging once the phone is fully charged the pad cuts out so it won't over charge
With a wired connection when the phone is charged its still consistently trying to charge which can end up damage battering the long term

craigels said:
I think though that with wireless charging once the phone is fully charged the pad cuts out so it won't over charge
With a wired connection when the phone is charged its still consistently trying to charge which can end up damage battering the long term
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This is also what I have been wondering. If this is true then I may get a nice wireless pad for charging overnight (maybe the new official samsung "convertible" one but its damn expensive). I would have thought that the phone itself knows when a battery is charged and stops drawing the current from the cable though, so it would make no difference either way if that is true (but perhaps its not?).
But I did hear the exact opposite to op, that wireless charging was worse for the batteries, possibly due to the heat generated. But I don't know how true that is.

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It's better for the battery because it charges it more slowly than a direct wired connection. There is no more heat buildup than using a wired charger, in fact likely less since the charging rate is lower.
As for the other comment that a wired charger doesn't shut off but keeps charging once the battery is full is patently false. The charging circuits whether wired or wireless are quite intelligent and gradually ramp down the charging current as the battery approaches capacity, ultimately delivering just enough current to keep the phone running. In a closed system the energy has to go somewhere and if the charger didn't do this you'd have 18W of power being dissipated as heat and a serious problem on your hands.

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It's better for the battery because it charges it more slowly than a direct wired connection. There is no more heat buildup than using a wired charger, in fact likely less since the charging rate is lower.
As for the other comment that a wired charger doesn't shut off but keeps charging once the battery is full is patently false. The charging circuits whether wired or wireless are quite intelligent and gradually ramp down the charging current as the battery approaches capacity, ultimately delivering just enough current to keep the phone running. In a closed system the energy has to go somewhere and if the charger didn't do this you'd have 18W of power being dissipated as heat and a serious problem on your hands.
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For wireless I believe the heat generated is more, it is about the method of delivering the power, not the speed. The induction used to transfer power wirelessly is obviously going to be far less efficient and will generate more heat to get even a slower transfer rate then getting the power straight down a cable (but if someone knows otherwise then feel free to correct me). But then I guess the slower charging rate might also put less stress on the battery which is probably good.
For the wired, what you are basically saying is that leaving a phone plugged in to a wired charger will not harm it since the current will have been reduced in the same way a car battery charger might reduce it to a "maintenance" mode once it is fully charged. So people are believing the old myths that you can overcharge a phone, which would seem to be impossible (although I do wonder why they keep slapping up notifications saying things like "FULLY CHARGED! UNPLUG CABLE!" as if leaving it plugged in would in some way damage it!).
Just saw this which explains the overcharging possibility (or lack of)
http://www.androidauthority.com/leave-phone-plugged-overnight-703078/

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For wireless I believe the heat generated is more, it is about the method of delivering the power, not the speed. [/url]
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The coils themselves don't generate a significant amount of heat, it's the battery itself that causes the phone to get hot. Slower charging means less heat, which is better for your battery so wireless charging will increase your battery life. As the article notes it is also best to keep your phone above 40% charge, partly because fast chargers slow down significantly after 50% to save the battery. That initial burst from 0-50% is done to save you from a dying battery but it takes its toll.
Also note that the S8/S8+ have new battery technology that provides much improved battery life. They're saying 5% loss of capacity after two years compared to 20% for previous generations.
As a bonus not continuously plugging/unplugging a cable from your USB port will make that last longer too. I hardly ever plug my S7 Edge into a physical cable, and I know quite a few people who have killed their USB ports and can no longer charge and or transfer data from them.

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The coils themselves don't generate a significant amount of heat, it's the battery itself that causes the phone to get hot. Slower charging means less heat, which is better for your battery so wireless charging will increase your battery life. As the article notes it is also best to keep your phone above 40% charge, partly because fast chargers slow down significantly after 50% to save the battery. That initial burst from 0-50% is done to save you from a dying battery but it takes its toll.
Also note that the S8/S8+ have new battery technology that provides much improved battery life. They're saying 5% loss of capacity after two years compared to 20% for previous generations.
As a bonus not continuously plugging/unplugging a cable from your USB port will make that last longer too. I hardly ever plug my S7 Edge into a physical cable, and I know quite a few people who have killed their USB ports and can no longer charge and or transfer data from them.
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Yeah I am torn at the moment between using cable and getting a wireless charger. I like my stuff charged asap but that's partly because i never leave it plugged in overnight and want it charged before bed (which I now know is not a problem anyway) and partly because i want to be able to unplug it to use it if i get a message or email, which isn't an issue with wireless as I can just pick it up and put it back on there after. I assume taking it off the charging pad and putting it back on will not have any detrimental effects to the battery. I am just trying to weigh up the pros and cons of each. All things considered I am leaning towards wireless, particularly if it isn't worse for the battery (although lets face it the difference in degradation between wireless and wired, is going to be so small it's probably not even noticeable after a couple of years by which time I would have a new phone anyway). I wonder if there is a better wireless charger which will be more future proof than the new convertible samsung one (in case I ditch samsung in future) and still give max speed, I would like one that is tilted so I can see the screen though.
My s5 is 3 years old and has only ever been charged by the massive double width "micro USB" cable which takes some force to get in and out of the socket. Still works perfectly though. Never had any usb port of any kind on any device fail, no idea what these other people are doing to kill them!

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Yeah I am torn at the moment between using cable and getting a wireless charger.
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Having the dock by my bed is very convenient. Just place it on at night and pick it up during the morning. If I need to grab it for anything I can without getting tangled up in wires and it even sits at the right angle so that the always on display becomes my nightstand clock/alarm clock. Once you've gone wireless you won't go back.

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Having the dock by my bed is very convenient. Just place it on at night and pick it up during the morning. If I need to grab it for anything I can without getting tangled up in wires and it even sits at the right angle so that the always on display becomes my nightstand clock/alarm clock. Once you've gone wireless you won't go back.
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I always turn my phone off at night anyway so I don't get disturbed by some spam message or something (I know I can probably set it up to be silent at certain times, but then why leave it on at all, using the battery for nothing). £70 for that Samsung charger though!! I know there are much cheaper ones but I am not sure they will charge at the same rate, the new samsung one charges faster than any previous wireless charger AFAIK and I would want one where the phone can sit up, and most are just flat. Hmmmm although the do have it for £50 on amazon sold by "fonejoy", still steep though.
This one looks good https://www.amazon.co.uk/CHOETECH-W...=UTF8&qid=1492192247&sr=1-9&keywords=choetech but not sure if itll charge at the same speed as the new samsung one and doesnt use a USB-C connector which probably rules it out. May as well just get the samsung one.

I use the US version of this and it works fine. https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Mobile-P...d=1492192742&sr=1-5&keywords=rav+power+qc+2.0. The Fast Charging Dock comes with a cable so that should be all you need.
And yes, I have my Do Not Disturb settings to suppress notifications 10:30PM to 6:30AM. Wife complained she couldn't sleep with all that noise going on

craigdamey said:
I use the US version of this and it works fine. https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Mobile-P...d=1492192742&sr=1-5&keywords=rav+power+qc+2.0. The Fast Charging Dock comes with a cable so that should be all you need.
And yes, I have my Do Not Disturb settings to suppress notifications 10:30PM to 6:30AM. Wife complained she couldn't sleep with all that noise going on
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Thats a wall charger? I'm talking about the charging pad itself. I believe the new Samsung one outputs 15w so is faster than any previous ones which are all 10w I think.

ewokuk said:
Thats a wall charger? I'm talking about the charging pad itself. I believe the new Samsung one outputs 15w so is faster than any previous ones which are all 10w I think.
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There are only two types of charging dock, standard and fast-charge. None of them output 15W to the phone. The expensive Samsung is just a fancy fast-charge dock so it will charge at the same rate as the Seneo and others that support fast-charge. The Samsung fast-charge adapter only provides a maximum output power of 15W (9V @ 1.67A) so it would require 100% transfer efficiency to charge the phone at that power, and in reality it's only about 65% so at most you'll see 10W versus standard Qi charging at around 7W.
All of the Seneo chargers I have coupled with RavPower or Samsung Fast-Charge adapters charge at the same rate (10W to begin with tapering off to 7W above 50% charge).

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There are only two types of charging dock, standard and fast-charge. None of them output 15W to the phone. The expensive Samsung is just a fancy fast-charge dock so it will charge at the same rate as the Seneo and others that support fast-charge. The Samsung fast-charge adapter only provides a maximum output power of 15W (9V @ 1.67A) so it would require 100% transfer efficiency to charge the phone at that power, and in reality it's only about 65% so at most you'll see 10W versus standard Qi charging at around 7W.
All of the Seneo chargers I have coupled with RavPower or Samsung Fast-Charge adapters charge at the same rate (10W to begin with tapering off to 7W above 50% charge).
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Ahh ok, I will have to check out a few seneo pads.

If your using fast charging AKA Adaptive charging it shouldn't matter either way. The Fast charging port on the phone, and the wireless charging should go through the phone and the phone should automatically stop all charging going to the battery. This is the reason why if you were to leave your fast charger on all night whether it be Wireless or wired, you can pick your phone up at 99% or 98% instead of 100%. The phone stopped charging, then when it drops to a certain % it starts to charge up again.
As far as which is actually best for strain, it shouldnt matter because afaik to the battery its the all the same. Wireless charging just has some coils almost that send the charge wirelessly, but it still goes to the same place.
This is what I have read from google, so I am no expert on the subject, but it seemed pretty legit, and makes sense to me, a person with a Tech background. If anyone knows better please be my guest.

I'm going with wireless charging pads at home but a magnetic cable for in the car.
Not found a good car holder that has the wireless pad built in so I will stick with my ibolt for a bit longer
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There is no correct answer to this question. Battery life is function of many things -
1. Every battery has specified charge cycle. One full charge from min to max is 1 cycle. Two full charge from mid to max is also 1 cycle. So the more you use your device, charge cycles will come to an end more quickly. For example if you use two similar spec phones; first one you use heavily requiring full cycle charge everyday vs second which you use less and requires full charge every alternate day (or to phrase in other way, first is almost completely discharged by evening, second is half discharged). So the theory goes that second phone battery will last double the time than first.
2. Every battery articles you read, you will find recommendation to charge battery in specified current or usually slow charging. Today's battery technology should be immune to this but I still turn fast charging off. It is likely that not all the batteries are immune.
3. Heat is bad for battery. Some wireless chargers heat up. The TYLT VU that I use get uncomfortably warm when I place phone vertically (possibly coils do not align and multiple of them gets activated). Heat build up is there during fast charging too. If you play CPU intensive games and charge at the same time, phone gets warm. All this heat is working negative to the life span of battery.
4. Lithium ion batteries have less chemical stress when they are not fully charged or fully discharged. If you research you will find articles telling one to keep battery between 40% to 90%. Hence I usually do not charge to 100% and if I do, I watch or play games to bring battery level down. Search for best charge level to store lithium ion batteries, I think it is from 45% to 50%. This I guess keeps batteries at the least chemical stress state. So do your maths if you are type who likes to keep battery at 100% charge at all the times.
As you can see there is no straight answer to this question. Battery life is function of all these factors.
Added: I didn't read full article but you can check this link which speaks about impact of heat and leaving battery to full charge state.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

Thanks for everyones input on this!
By the way, not sure if it has been mentioned, but this is a pretty cool read:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...ill-degrade-less-quickly-than-the-galaxy-s7s/
So looks like the S8 won't deteriorate as much over time!

I got the OEM samsung convertible fast charging pad but it doesn't come with a wall plug as I read somewhere (I guess thats just us in the UK getting screwed over yet again). The manual says "Use only Samsung-approved chargers that support fast charging (9v/1.67A, 9v/2A, 12v/2.1A).". So I need a wall plug that will be able to provide the fastest charging speeds from it (which I am guessing is one that does 12v/2.1A??). I dont think all the standard plugs with 2.4a sockets are going to do it right? The "30w" RAVpower one that craigdamey linked says it can do 12v/2A but only for QC3.0 (which I obviously wont get since its just being plugged straight into the charging pad), otherwise its 5v/2.4a. Not sure what one to get now. Theres an Anker 24w one but that says 2.4a per port (I know little about electrics and how these things work!).

Does wireless chargers hurt the battery or phone long term?

Topic! I know cables can wear out the port. Never had a wireless.

Hmm... Personally I think wireless charger have a potential to do so... It does heat a lot (especially if you're wearing a case or loving in a quite hot place as I do)..
Cable charger is able to wear ports, but I don't think it is that notable.. My 1.5 year old S8 always use a cable charging, and I often put on OTG and DeX system.. But, until now, the port still holds out very well..

tdoto said:
Topic! I know cables can wear out the port. Never had a wireless.
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Wherever you charge,just have a small desktop fan to keep things cool,whether you charge wirelessly or not.
I place my phone on a stand or the QI Charger stand & direct the fan right at it.
I'm not a battery stat nerd,but,I'm guessing overall charging speeds will increase as well if you use a fan to keep the temperatures down while charging......

Wireless charging itself won't hurt the battery. Heat & frequent 100% & <20% charging cycles will hurt it more. Download AccuBattery from the play store and monitor your charging temperature. Depending on your environment, If it's below 40C while charging(mine is ~36C), it should be OK.
The way I do it is NOT charging it overnight, and top it up during the day between 40-80% using wireless charing stand. AccuBattery also has the alert feature when it charges till 80%, that's when I take it off the charging stand.
If you plan to upgrade in a year or so, don't worry about any of those as modern battery/charging circuit will take care of itself in such a short time. It shouldn't affect the battery life.

Oh yeah let's talk about this stuff. This is my bread and butter
Long story short. Yes it has the potential to cause issues. It's not so much the temperature but the fact it is being bombarded by 110-200ish khz. Is it something that a typical user will notice? No you are talking leaving your phone in a wireless charger for years at time. To that's why when you look at some quality chargers under the coil they have some shielding. Phones have this to. I haven't looked into the note 9 internally but I'm guessing the components that would be sensitive to that are shielded.
You should not need to worry about it. Leave it on for 12 hours a day. Heck I bet it could take a few years of 24/7 on one without an issue.
Temps. Most battery's can handle discharge at a temp of 60c for 30 min just fine. The max I think is around 75c where a thermal fuse blowes and the battery is gone. I haven't looked into the note 9's battery but I'm guessing it's close. So 60c is fine. Ideally you would wanna keep it around 45c but 60c won't hurt it. I have taken battery's to around 60c and never noticed any impact in performance. Just don't do this every day. 45c-50c is the max I would say that would not have an impact on it. I'll spare you from the chemical changes that occurs when they are exposed to high temps for long periods of time.
Electronics. 60c is nothing. Remember everything soldered in your phone gets heated to at least 150c for 3 min. The components may say they have a max op temp fo say 70c but that's specs for the hundreds of thousands of hours they spec the part for. People seem to think hitting a high temp is the end for some components when they have already been exposed to temps almost 3 times higher.
Wireless charging is fine. You don't need to worry about it.

I have a Samsung wireless charging dock(upright) and when placing my phone, usually position it with a bit of space between the phone and charge so that air would flow between them, which aids in keeping it cool while charging.

shinew said:
Wireless charging itself won't hurt the battery. Heat & frequent 100% & <20% charging cycles will hurt it more. Download AccuBattery from the play store and monitor your charging temperature. Depending on your environment, If it's below 40C while charging(mine is ~36C), it should be OK.
The way I do it is NOT charging it overnight, and top it up during the day between 40-80% using wireless charing stand. AccuBattery also has the alert feature when it charges till 80%, that's when I take it off the charging stand.
If you plan to upgrade in a year or so, don't worry about any of those as modern battery/charging circuit will take care of itself in such a short time. It shouldn't affect the battery life.
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Exactly what he says ^^
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Good info. Does the quality of the charger matter? Even qi certified ones range from $8-$40. How about standard vs quick charge?