[Q] Questions before purchase about S Pen - Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am looking at the Note 10.1 for purchase and I am trying to get information about handwriting recognition using the S Pen and saving what has been written to a .txt document or RTF doc or doc file. Searching for this answer on this forum and others has not helped - at least I have not found the answer. What I want to be sure that I can do is handwrite a document - for example an article for publication - and save the handwriting recognition text version and be able to use it then on a PC in software like Word or Notepad. Can this be done using the included Polaris Office app? What I have seen so far about the S Notes app is that it only saves to pdf or jpg files. Is that true?
Then somewhere I saw that files cannot be attached to emails sent from the Note 10.1 - is this true? If I installed an app like K9 Email on the Note 10.1 which has file attachment capabilities on other Android devices will I be able to attach the text files from the Note 10.1 that I have written using handwriting recognition (if txt files are possible using handwriting recognition)?
I am not interested (at least now) in annotating documents - I need to be able to create new text documents with the S Pen and be able to save and edit them as text both on the Note and then on a PC.
Thanks!

Hi 1776,
You can write straight into Polaris Office (or any other office app, google docs etc) using the handwriting recognition keyboard option and save into whatever format those apps support.
I've become an S Pen junkie over the last month for taking notes and docs for my work. A Note 10.1 a month ago, and a Note 2 phone (for easy noting on the move) this week.
I find the S Pen option ( Language and input | Samsung Keyboard Settings | Handwriting | Recognition type | Complete recognition) best for this (as opposed to 'Stroke recognition' option)
Good luck with it!

You can also save the files to a cloud service and retrieve them anywhere using this...

For that matter, you can even move your PCs My Documents folder to Dropbox, and use Dropsync on your tablet to do a completely automatic 2-way sync so that you can edit the files from the PC or at tablet at any time :thumbup:
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Or switch to google docs and scratch the office suite altogether. Or use sNote and sync to Evernote.
Lots of options available.
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Thanks to all! I knew I would get a fast response from this forum to answer my question. I now know from you that I can use the SPen to write into Polaris or an office suite or Google Docs and get my articles ready. There is a good price right now at Costco and I am going to take advantage of it.
Thanks again!

Sorry to bring this back up again - I went to Best Buy today and wanted to try the S Pen with Polaris Office. I opened Polaris Office and looked for the gear symbol to start handwriting recognition at the bottom of the keyboard next to the microphone symbol for voice recognition. It was not there. Only the microphone was there. I went into S Pen settings on the Note 10.1 and did not see much to set. A salesman came over and asked him how to get this display model to let me use the S Pen in Polaris Office and he said it cannot do that. He insisted the pen only works in S Note. I told him differently, explained what I expected to find and all of the more knowledgeable people than him (I did not say that part) that are on this forum say it works with Polaris and other apps. He tried and found nothing to get it to work.
So now I have a new question - does this now work with an update that perhaps their display did not have? He also tried it on the Note 8 that was on diplay and said it did not work.
You all say it works and I am sure it does. I would just like to see it do it before I plunk down almost 500 bucks.
What is needed to do to make it work? And if there was an update and the displays were not updated - would it then not work?
TIA!!!

Long press on the microphone button on the keyboard gives you a selection box. One of the choices switches the keyboard to pen entry.
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FYI I found the default pen settings to be less than optimal for my writing style. Keep this in mind while trying it out. You'll likely customize it to your liking once you own it.
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Thanks once again. I went to a different Best Buy today and did as was described here and long pressed the mike key - and there was the button to start handwriting recognition. I worked fairly well. Thank you to bsaman who warned me about having to customize the settings to get it to write smoothly. In the store, words were split, wrong letters were put in, but I can see that with some adjustment it will work just fine and I test saved a doc handwritten in Polaris and saw in the file manager that it was saved as a .doc file which is what I need it to do.
One other question - every time my hand leaned on the glass when writing with the pen in the input box that was across the lower half of the screen, it brought up a new screen scrolling up from the bottom. I assume that this can be turned off?

The only thing I can think of is the Multi-window option bar that pops up when you touch the carret in the navbar. Don't know about disabling it though.
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I went to Costco today and bought the Note 10.1 ($417 including a leather case) and now I have to start setting it up. Thanks to all!

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[Q] Note taking apps?

So I was thinking of buying this capacitive stylus: http://www.amazon.com/Acase-Capacit...aybook/dp/B003ULE6GU/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
But I was wondering if there are any decent note taking apps designed for use with a pen. Because if there aren't, it's kind of pointless, I don't think there's really anything else I would use the stylus for, except maybe drawing.
Thanks!
I'm not sure of a good app, but I do own this stylus. Once I get my Transformer tomorrow, I will let you know how well it works.
Not sure to what extent you plan to use notes, but I use "Note Everything Pro" and absolutely love it!
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Handwritten notes
If you're talking about handwritten notes, some people from the xoom forum suggested handrite, check it out and tell me if it works with the transformer. There is a free version with ads. Also many users suggest get rid of the auto insert feature through the settings for the app and it becomes much more usable.
Amazon 1-click Order is dangerously easy. Just ordered it. I'll play around with the note taking apps and let you know what I find. Tablet's coming tomorrow, stylus should arrive on Tuesday.
I'm using flext9 it can be used as swipe which works faster than the one installed on the transformer and it also has a writing to text feature that's pretty cool.I take my notes on evernote which also has a share button to email/ share it to a computer. You can also create an account and sync your documents up to access anywhere.
I can't believe this, from the time since the beginning of Android to now, NO ONE has created a combinable Text & Handwriting note program.
Where is the app that lets you draw and type within the same note? This was possible in Windows Mobile, 10 years ago!!!
All the programs available seem to at best be able create drawing notes separately from typing note, WTF?
klau1 said:
I can't believe this, from the time since the beginning of Android to now, NO ONE has created a combinable Text & Handwriting note program.
Where is the app that lets you draw and type within the same note? This was possible in Windows Mobile, 10 years ago!!!
All the programs available seem to at best be able create drawing notes separately from typing note, WTF?
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Hey dummy, read the post above yours.
I can confirm this. FlexT9 works great on the Transformer. It does an AWESOME-fast Swype style. Then it also has a handwriting-recognition mode that allows you to write within any app.
Screw note-taking apps, when you have a keyboard like this you don't need them.
The post above mine previous (#6) mentions two things:
FlexT9: an input method, not a program that supports scribble drawing & text notes
EverNote: an notes program, without any scribble drawing support
Care to enlighten me with your wisdom again?
+1 for flexT9, it is now my keyboard of choice too, much quicker than handwriting or typing in my opinion.
There is another note taking app called Tabnotes, currently under development. It looks very promising and could potentially be the killer notepad app. Works really well with handwriting with a stylus.
A trial is available on the market for you to try out, the program has been developed with tablets in mind.
At present you cannot use keypad entry, I have emailed the developer of the app for this function, we'll see what happens.
i am using writepad with Evernote and it works flawlessly. I was nervous because the writepad application cost $10. But if you go to the developers site you can test it free for24 hours.
Note everything pro
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Note everything pro
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Do you know if this will sync with multiple devices?
Edit - I found out it currently does not sync with multiple devices.

Annotate PDF in Polaris

I do not have a 10.1 yet, but I am seriously considering getting one. I went to try and test it the other day at a local retailer and figured out a number of interesting things.
However, when I played with the pdf viewer in Polaris, I found the option Annotate, but after selecting it, nothing happened, that is, I was not able to free draw or insert text or comments anywhere.
I have read in other threads lots of suggestions on other apps which work very well for annotating PDFs, but of course those cannot go on split screen. So I am really interesting in figuring whether this Annotate option actually does anything in Polaris with PDF's.
Has anyone figured what that does, if anything?
Thanks.
andycolch said:
I do not have a 10.1 yet, but I am seriously considering getting one. I went to try and test it the other day at a local retailer and figured out a number of interesting things.
However, when I played with the pdf viewer in Polaris, I found the option Annotate, but after selecting it, nothing happened, that is, I was not able to free draw or insert text or comments anywhere.
I have read in other threads lots of suggestions on other apps which work very well for annotating PDFs, but of course those cannot go on split screen. So I am really interesting in figuring whether this Annotate option actually does anything in Polaris with PDF's.
Has anyone figured what that does, if anything?
Thanks.
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I have a note and I am unable to figure thus out as well...I have tried using the s- pen all around d screen to no avail
IM also facing the same problem. It would be great if I could use this feature, specially in meetings. Hope someone can help.
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If anything you can import the PDF into S Note and annotate it from there.
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It's broken. Here's my correspondence with them. They're working on it.
But S Note converts you pdf to images and it always crash while import for me. Polaris office is slow and it has issues displaying equations. And it can't annotate pdf with pen
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Adobe Reader has surpringly good annotation ability. I've got ezPDF as well (it was on sale for $0.10 last Christmas!), but I think I'm going to stick with Adobe.
PDFs are one of the main reasons that I got this tablet. I thought kno would be a good resource, but it is rather clunky, doesn't display some images properly, and has terrible palm recognition. My PDF workflow is now Scholarly (to sync with my Mendeley database), then Adobe Reader to view/annotate. Also, Adobe Reader saves annotations in place, whereas ezPDF wants to make a copy, which it then stores in some unspecified location. This means that if I open a PDF from Dropbox in Adobe and make some comments, those comments then sync through Dropbox to my computer.
Never thought I'd have so much praise for an Adobe product!
Charbucks said:
Adobe Reader has surpringly good annotation ability. I've got ezPDF as well (it was on sale for $0.10 last Christmas!), but I think I'm going to stick with Adobe.
PDFs are one of the main reasons that I got this tablet. I thought kno would be a good resource, but it is rather clunky, doesn't display some images properly, and has terrible palm recognition. My PDF workflow is now Scholarly (to sync with my Mendeley database), then Adobe Reader to view/annotate. Also, Adobe Reader saves annotations in place, whereas ezPDF wants to make a copy, which it then stores in some unspecified location. This means that if I open a PDF from Dropbox in Adobe and make some comments, those comments then sync through Dropbox to my computer.
Never thought I'd have so much praise for an Adobe product!
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Can't adjust thickness and color of the pen and no pressure sensitivity?
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Can't adjust thickness and color of the pen and no pressure sensitivity?
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As with ezPDF, adjusting thickness and color is non-intuitive... *after* you've written your annotation, long-press on it. Then you should be able to modify the appearance. Whatever settings you choose will remain with the pen for the next time you use it.
No pressure sensitivity, you're right.
I've been using ezPDF which now on the Note 10.1 offers multiwindow which is cool. Use pen to annotate, rather than pencil..
Haven't figured a good workflow on how to use it with Mendeley yet...
I just downloaded eZ pdf and it crashes constantly. It does have the multi window function which is pretty cool, but useless until they fix the crashes. I downloaded Adobe but they still don't support the multi window function, and the built in Kno app doesn't support multi window either.
Edit: Did some more digging and found out that there is an app we can download in the app store called multi window which allows you choose any app to give multi window functionality to it. The pdf that I was trying to annotate on was protected SO the only way I can write notes on it was to use it in the Kno app! Thanks for the info guys!

Where is scrap book

When I was do a screen shot using the pen I get an option of scrap book apart from other options but I cannot find scrap book can anyone tell me where it is
Have you checked snotes?
That is where it is by the way
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When I was do a screen shot using the pen I get an option of scrap book apart from other options but I cannot find scrap book can anyone tell me where it is
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I have no scrapbook option when using the s pen to take a screen shot, which leads me to believe it is an app you installed, or is country specific, and would probably be found with the rest of your apps.
toenail_flicker said:
I have no scrapbook option when using the s pen to take a screen shot, which leads me to believe it is an app you installed, or is country specific, and would probably be found with the rest of your apps.
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Are you not on jelly bean?
Scrapbook is a new feature with jellybean. It resides in S Note, but you will need to save something to it before it shows the folder for the first time. I don't have it on my note 10.1 yet but do have on my note 2 phone and really love this feature!
I love the Scrapbook as well for quickly collecting scraps.
Where I am stumped though is how to get data from the scrapbook anywhere else.
I would really want to be able to copypaste data from Scrapbook to another notebook in S Note, or even "save as" the Scrapbook so I can "upgrade" it to a real note.
I must be missing something, right? It cannot be that the scrapbook is a black hole from which data cannot escape except as a jpg or pdf via the export function?
Usually whatever I copy to the scrapbook is automatically put on the clipboard. From there I can use my "scraps".
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The clip key on keyboard
I'm on jelly bean stock samung keyboard on right lower side has a key to open the scrap book verry buttom right key icon pn key
While I concede that this method of accessing the clipboard does kind of work it is not practical at all.
I collect stuff in the scrapbook over weeks, adding handwritten notes and stuff to it. So all of this stuff is a) not in the clipboard, b) too complex to to copy&paste from a clipboard and recreate.
That's the whole point of the clipboard for me. It's just really really quick to get info into it. But unfortunately seemingly impossible to get it out.
I suppose I will have to do the slightly slower thing of actually directly importing my clippings into the relevant note from the beginning.
Which still is not ideal cause things change over time. You decide to split up the content of a single note into two or more, or something similar. I mean, that's the whole point of text editors isn't it? To be able to edit, transpose, cut, copy, paste as one requires....?

[Q] Polaris and multiview...

Hello everyone,
I bought the Note 10.1 about one month ago and am mostly satisfied with it, except for one point.
As a student, I use the SNote app a lot during lectures, and I like to import images from pdf presentations in my notes. The multiview is very handy for that, but the problem comes from Polaris (and possibly the multiview mechanics?).
1. Is there a way to change polaris fonts ? The texts and math formulas are displaying in a very ugly way. If I don't zoom, some letters are half-erased, sometimes the letters are not equally spaced within a word or sentence. In Adobe reader, it display fine as it would on any computer. This is annoying and sometimes unreadable... Is there a way to fix this somehow ?
2. When I'm done importing files, or any time I don't need the second window, I usually close the multiview. But that quits the app and I cannot resume where it was left. Pretty annoying when I have to reopen the same pdf 5 times during a lecture... Is there a way to make it so that the app just goes in the background without quitting ?
I am using a GT-N8010, 4.0.4, version number (if it's of any use) IMM76D.N8010XXALGC.
My Polaris version is 4.0.5002.33. I updated it recently to see if the above issues would be resolved, but unfortunately not.
Thanks in advance for your answers.
Askherion
The only advice I can give is to be patient and wait for jellybean as I believe it fixes your problem with multi app view. I've seen demonstrations on YouTube where you can have lots of apps open and you can resize them to any size you want, including full screen. The other apps are still open in the background and you can bring them forward as needed.
Do a search for "galaxy note 10.1 jelly bean", and look for Zedomax multi window demo. I believe this is what you are asking for in your second question.
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Note Taking on 10.1

I do like my 10.1 but still very disappointed with apps. I probably want One Note with inking and reminders but nothing comes close to a perfect note taking app yet.
Am I alone -
Written notes and typed.
I do Not need handwriting recognition.
Sync with desktop.
Quick entry with pen, keyboard or camera when you want a quick reminder.
Rich text formatting on typed text with bullets and para format.
Alarms or reminders on notes.
Ability to draw on images without messinv with switching layers.
Folder structure.
Choice of paper formats and ruling.
Looks and feels like a modern app.
S Note was not bad until it was messed up in the last version, and thd Evernote sync is useless for desktop use. Lecturenotes promisinv but way too complex for handling text and formatting sections of text easily - just not intuitive.
Am I the only one that gets excited with a new App only to find myself after 10 minutes back to using a combination of paper notepads and Evernote.
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krmurphy said:
I do like my 10.1 but still very disappointed with apps. I probably want One Note with inking and reminders but nothing comes close to a perfect note taking app yet.
Am I alone -
Written notes and typed.
I do Not need handwriting recognition.
Sync with desktop.
Quick entry with pen, keyboard or camera when you want a quick reminder.
Rich text formatting on typed text with bullets and para format.
Alarms or reminders on notes.
Ability to draw on images without messinv with switching layers.
Folder structure.
Choice of paper formats and ruling.
Looks and feels like a modern app.
S Note was not bad until it was messed up in the last version, and thd Evernote sync is useless for desktop use. Lecturenotes promisinv but way too complex for handling text and formatting sections of text easily - just not intuitive.
Am I the only one that gets excited with a new App only to find myself after 10 minutes back to using a combination of paper notepads and Evernote.
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I was just thinking about the same.
It really seems that developers are not used yet to the potential of the S Pen or that they don't use much the apps they create...
Anyway there's an app (Awesome Note) that has many (but not all) of the features listed in the OP.
See here
Sv: Note Taking on 10.1
My vote goes to LectureNotes, the only decent note taking application out there if you ask me. It don't match all your criteria, but I would really give it a try if I were you!
Written notes and typed.
Check!
I do Not need handwriting recognition.
Great, cause it hasn't.
Sync with desktop.
Check! All your notes are saved as individual bitmap images, and with foldersync or a similar app you can sync it to Dropbox and by that your desktop. The typed text is either in the image or as a separate text file.
Quick entry with pen, keyboard or camera when you want a quick reminder.
Well, it's not ideal for this but you can take an image and select share to LectureNotes after which it's automatically imported to the app. It supports multiwindow, so you can easily access it that way.
Rich text formatting on typed text with bullets and para format.
Well, it depends on how you define rich but it has a few.
Alarms or reminders on notes.
Not that I know unfortunately.. But maybe acadoid can implement it if you ask him in the LectureNotes thread here
Ability to draw on images without messinv with switching layers.
Check! You can get it to automatically import images in another layer than the one you're writing in.
Folder structure.
Check!
Choice of paper formats and ruling.
Check! Actually, since it's supporting JavaScript customization it cannot get any better since you quite easily can make your own.
Looks and feels like a modern app.
Hmm, well not really. But it's really functioning, and to me that's the most important.
But I totally agree, there's no note taking app that is perfect or even close to and that really is a shame on such a great tablet. However, LectureNotes is to me the best compromise.
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