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[Q] Can you all point me to a Reliable Fast and Supported Tablet?

So after the past week or so i have done some casual research. Looking thru various sites getting some not so reliable feedback i figured i would just ask at the top.... And i dont know why i didnt in the first place..
I am looking to get a Android Tablet when taxes come. Something not to expensive but not a cheap piece of junk either.
I am looking for something reliable, fast good graphics, a decent camera if possible certianly gps, wifi, bluetooth. I would like to dock it in my car for its Gps potential, and for movies and certianly its music capabilities (like power amp) and pandora last fm ect. I figured i would tether it to my Droid 2, and no i wont be watching movies on it thats more for my wife, friends ect.
I would defenatly want it to have the android market on it, wether i have to put it on there myself or if it was stock. I want to be able to play games like angry bird or whatever. Not just simple low end games but the potentintal to play anything i might want to..
And lastley i would like something that defenatly has some community backbone to it. Something that has been rooted, that people know and i can get reliable support on. I dont want to be running 1.6 on it it has to be like 2.0 or 2.2 and i can upgrade it. Something that runs really smoothly and has at least one decent rom.
I see some of these people who bought cheap tablets off ebay from Hong Kong or whatever and there having to scour the net just to find out what excatly it is called.. I dont really wana do that lol.
If i can find it locally great! If i got to order it off the net then so be it. I just want something that is open, reliale, smooth, fast and has some support behind it...
Sorry if this is the wrong section i looked for a overall tablet form but couldnt find one on XDA and i didnt want to post in every forum. If you have anylinks or even one u are thinking about buying like a link let me know id love to check it out!
Thanks Everyone!

Dude, get a NookColor! $249, supported in ROM Manager, and I'm sure soon to have full ROMs released..
It doesn't have a camera (but your Droid 2 does...) so that might be a deal breaker. It's not a tablet, it's an e-reader, but it's a neat little thing. I can't wait to see the development take off.
Other than that, the Motorola Xoom looks promising, but it's currently unreleased.
-pd

I would recommend the nook Color as well except for the fact that it is lacking a GPS. Therefore it does not fit into the car model. I have one for my son and it is a nice device.

The gps is kind of a nessisity for me, i could give up the camera but im stuck with the gps. But the nook or nook color is out for me. I see it as lacking later on because of its processor and it wasent built to be a tablet. I want something that will ride out for a few years if possible. It needs a 1 ghz prosessor and sufficent ram. And i got to have 2.2+ on it. And 7 inch minumum. Thank you for the suggestion thus far though

Consider the Archos 101 or 70.
Pretty sure it has everything.
There is a forum for it here too.

as far as I know no tablet meets your demands ( 1ghz/2.2/lotso ram/etc) probably best shot at the moment is a flytouch II from lightinthebox ...
10", decent rom support coming together, inbuilt gps, 2 cardslots for storage, android 2.1 with kernel 2.6.32.9 once you upgrade/update it to v1568 firmware.
another OEM provider promised 2.2 was going to be out last weekend but havent seen anything filtering out as of yet

chachi said:
as far as I know no tablet meets your demands ( 1ghz/2.2/lotso ram/etc) probably best shot at the moment is a flytouch II from lightinthebox ...
10", decent rom support coming together, inbuilt gps, 2 cardslots for storage, android 2.1 with kernel 2.6.32.9 once you upgrade/update it to v1568 firmware.
another OEM provider promised 2.2 was going to be out last weekend but havent seen anything filtering out as of yet
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Actually, Archos already has 2.2 with 1ghz
http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_101it/specs.html?country=ca&lang=en
The RAM is not listed on that page but it would be easy to find out.
I'm just stepping out.
And there seems to be a GPS solution here http://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=37910

Sry... what I meant was I want to run the most uptodate firmware I can so im kosher with 2.1 what im hoping to avoid is where I have seen a lot of them running 1.6. I've been thinking about archos but I just haven't heardb from anyone who ones a archos or a flytouch.. I would defenatly like to hear experiences... thanks again everyone
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Also and i forgot to mention it.. It has to have a Capacitive and Multitouch screen like my Droid X or Droid 2.... Does that FlyTouch have that? cause i cant seem to find any information pertaining to that.

no flytouch2 is not multitouch but otherwise i am more than happy with mine, best €130 ish i've ever spent

[Q] Motorola Xoom for studies? no, yes?

Hello
I just orderd a Motorola Xoom 32GB 3G for 220€ and I was wondering if Motorola Xoom will work fine to complement for studies in example universety? What app's is then required that works fine for Xoom+studies? I understand that the Ipad is superior when it comes to handy apps for studies is there something likely for Xoom or should I cancel the order? Does any bluetooth keyboard+mouse work or is it only a few?
Let me hear your thoughts..

The Motorola BT keyboard and mouse work great, and I know that a number of others also do. There are lots of writing/note taking apps as well as apps that allow you to read and mark-up pdfs, etc.
It has a good wifi connection ability, and is very portable, as you know. You should update it to ICS as soon as possible.

a favorite or two
just quick... i am not currently a student but i am a teacher. i use Springpad a lot to take notes on projects and meetings and such. it is an essential for me. after that the essentials are thumbpad and an office program. I just saw a thread that looked like it would review the office apps. the only reason the ipad. is better is it got to the market first, it isn't actually better.

okantomi said:
The Motorola BT keyboard and mouse work great, and I know that a number of others also do. There are lots of writing/note taking apps as well as apps that allow you to read and mark-up pdfs, etc.
It has a good wifi connection ability, and is very portable, as you know. You should update it to ICS as soon as possible.
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Is there any apps that is compatible with microsoft's word? If I for instance write something on my Xoom and then want to edit it with Microsoft Word, is that possible?
Do any keyboard/mouse with bluetooth or USB work with Xoom?

romdroid. said:
Is there any apps that is compatible with microsoft's word? If I for instance write something on my Xoom and then want to edit it with Microsoft Word, is that possible?
Do any keyboard/mouse with bluetooth or USB work with Xoom?
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I'm using the Bluetooth Keyboard case and love it along with the logitech bluetooth mouse. But any bluetooth mouse will work.
And there are various programs you can use to do that. I like Quickoffice Pro personally.

omac_ranger said:
I'm using the Bluetooth Keyboard case and love it along with the logitech bluetooth mouse. But any bluetooth mouse will work.
And there are various programs you can use to do that. I like Quickoffice Pro personally.
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Is Quickoffice Pro compatible with Microsoft's Word? If so then I dont thing i'll never find a greater laptop/netbook for the price of this Xoom with dualcore, camera etc.
Also is it neccesary to be a wirless bluetooth keyboard? regular wirless keyboard with usb-stick that goes in the usb-port in pc for example doesn't work in xoom?
Radio (RF) does it work with xoom?

romdroid. said:
Is Quickoffice Pro compatible with Microsoft's Word? If so then I dont thing i'll never find a greater laptop/netbook for the price of this Xoom with dualcore, camera etc.
Also is it neccesary to be a wirless bluetooth keyboard? regular wirless keyboard with usb-stick that goes in the usb-port in pc for example doesn't work in xoom?
Radio (RF) does it work with xoom?
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Yeah Quickoffice pro is compatible, the only issue is that you might have to go back to word to do some final formatting (like the headers and such). Other than that it works great. I have all my schoolwork synced with Dropbox so I can edit it on the go with Quickoffice. It has built in support for Dropbox.
If you want to use a usb device you're going to have to order an micro-usb to usb OTG adapter. It doesn't have a full size usb port, which I'm sure you know.
I do not believe that radio works on the xoom...

My Xoom is great for what I do at school. I've had it for a semester so far, and I must say it's fantastic to just have to carry this around rather than a backpack full of stuff. With the Kindle app I can download most of my textbooks, and you can highlight and bookmark pages right in the app. Plus with the apps that support office documents (QuickOffice, DocumentstoGo, ThinkFree, and others) you can edit and even print (with compatible printers) papers and stuff. It's a great tool. I plan on buying a logitech keyboard/stand for mine for when I go back to school, that way it's easier to take notes in class.

omac_ranger said:
Yeah Quickoffice pro is compatible, the only issue is that you might have to go back to word to do some final formatting (like the headers and such). Other than that it works great. I have all my schoolwork synced with Dropbox so I can edit it on the go with Quickoffice. It has built in support for Dropbox.
If you want to use a usb device you're going to have to order an micro-usb to usb OTG adapter. It doesn't have a full size usb port, which I'm sure you know.
I do not believe that radio works on the xoom...
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Are you sure that RF radio wirless keyboard's and mouse doesn't work? I thought i read somewhere it did but u need to use an otg cable

I use my Xoom to read .pdf's all the times, and use Internet when class is boring! but just for it, I hate "typing" in Xoom, so I use notepads yet!

romdroid. said:
Is there any apps that is compatible with microsoft's word? If I for instance write something on my Xoom and then want to edit it with Microsoft Word, is that possible?
Do any keyboard/mouse with bluetooth or USB work with Xoom?
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All of the full office suite will allow that but I recommend Office Suite Pro. It has the most compatibility and the most features, IMHO.

I always had typing lag issues with that one, which annoyed the hell out of me
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omac_ranger said:
I always had typing lag issues with that one, which annoyed the hell out of me
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ICS has eliminated any typing lag, for me and from all reports, from just about everyone.

Does anyone know for sure if any RF wirless keyboard and mouse work with Xoom? With OTG cable..?

romdroid. said:
Does anyone know for sure if any RF wirless keyboard and mouse work with Xoom? With OTG cable..?
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I'll be able to test this soon. I've ordered an OTG cable from Amazon that should be here any day. I also have a couple of wireless devices so I'll let you know when I get it in.

One thing to be aware of is the increasing amount of homework that is done online now. You need very specific OS/software requirements to be able to do these online assignments. If the only computer you have is a xoom you will have to borrow a roommates PC or use a computer lab to do all your homework. Depending on your major there may also be software tools that you can only use on a PC. So just be prepared for that.

nukedukem said:
One thing to be aware of is the increasing amount of homework that is done online now. You need very specific OS/software requirements to be able to do these online assignments. If the only computer you have is a xoom you will have to borrow a roommates PC or use a computer lab to do all your homework. Depending on your major there may also be software tools that you can only use on a PC. So just be prepared for that.
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I currently use my Xoom for all of my online homework. The only issue it's given me is no keyboard pops up when in flash based content. But other than that it had been compatible with everything so far.
I do see where you're coming from as far as actual software goes. Just wanted to give a heads up saying that it works well for everything else.
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omac_ranger said:
I currently use my Xoom for all of my online homework. The only issue it's given me is no keyboard pops up when in flash based content. But other than that it had been compatible with everything so far.
I do see where you're coming from as far as actual software goes. Just wanted to give a heads up saying that it works well for everything else.
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I wasn't as fortunate. Every online homework program was different so I think it just comes down to luck. One application required me to open specific ports for communication, another only ran in explorer, ect. Just a real PITA. But like I said there is always a computer lab or a roommate where you can find a PC if you need one. If you live on campus its not an issue to get to a computer lab. I always lived off campus and did homework late at night after lab hours so I had a netbook that was portable and had 9 hours of battery, plus guaranteed compatibility with any required program. I was taking mostly science courses and document collaboration was necessary so using a tablet to make edits to a document would have been doable but not ideal. PowerPoint presentation would have been impossible on a tablet given the complex nature of the presentations. Like I say you just have to evaluate your specific needs.

I use my Xoom for graduate school class to take notes and for presentations at work. A cheap laptop is sometimes a better deal. I bought mine at launch and for that price it was a waste of money but if you can get one for less than 250 USD, it isn't a bad deal for that use.
Even with Office Suite Pro (I've also tried all the others,) the office like apps are lacking. You still need the desktop version of Word to do real work with it. It still loses some page formatting and references aren't robust enough yet. OneNote just doesn't seem to be happening. There is a program out there that sort of does it but we really need the attention that Microsoft gave iOS for the iPhone and iPad versions. The office emulators are worth waiting until Amazon is offering them for free. The development teams should charge more for the apps but integrate more features. It's cheap now, but it's hard to justify $10 when you have to go to the desktop anyway. You could have saved your money, used a free text editor and put the document on a desktop to finalize. Editing office docs is convenient but you still run the risk of losing things.
It still isn't that good for PowerPoint presentations. If you convert your slide show to PDF you get along a little better. The Xoom's screen is a lot nicer than what you'll be getting out of most projectors so you have to be careful. Plugging in through HDMI will not save it. This isn't the fault of the Xoom it's just what happens when you use cheap projectors. It's just more noticeable when you have nice visuals in your hands yet on the big screen it's a washed out mess for hundreds of people to see.
Just remember that this is a cheap stop gap measure until the technology catches up. If lightweight mobility in a device that you can use to organize your teaching work is the biggest priority, this isn't a bad option but if you really need the features and not a toy, you're better off with a cheap HP laptop. It can do everything you need even though it's a boat anchor.
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Thanks for your reply's guys. I wont start university untill after the summer, hopefully I then will begin law school, if I am lucky I have a chance to go to an universety near my home and then having avablity of a PC will not be a problem.
I bought the Xoom for 325$ with motorolas dock, otg cable and folder case. It is the 32GB with 3G. Do you think that the apps for tablets will expand and we can have similar good apps like ipads?

USB Blu-ray or DVD players that work with the Transformer Infinity

I've seen a Portable USB Blu-ray players posted on Amazon.com from Panasonic ($55-60) and Samsung ($85). But some require an AC adapter and others require 2 USB ports to power them.
Has anyone tried one with the Infinity? Can you please tell me your experience?
Here are some links to relevant discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033887
Another XDA thread about Android and External DVD/Blu-Ray Players
http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...54-tf201-dock-usb-external-bluray-drives.html
Basically says that Android lacks UDF 2.5 filesystem support as well as an OEM to build Android drivers for their Blu-ray player.
http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...ns/9784-usb-port-play-external-dvd-drive.html
Here is a drama and information filled thread that covers a lot of related topics. The basic result is that they don't expect Blu-ray support on the Transformer line, ever, as digital content is what is being pushed now. Google especially has a Play Store designed to get you to buy movies and shows in digital format and not on BD or DVD.
http://www.transformerforums.com/forum/asus-video/3377-play-bluray-external-usb-bluray-drive.html
Another thread with basically the same info. Not much to read.
I'll update this thread with more information as I research this topic.
The basic issue that I'm trying to address is the following:
I'm trying to replace my mother in law's old Acer laptop with an Infinity. I've been able to resolve my questions about printer and printing support from the Infinity. I've also resolved just about every other question that would stand in the way of doing this. The last remaining issue is that she owns a number of DVDs (and very few BDs) and she enjoys watching them when she travels. She does have a portable DVD player, but it is a shame to watch that poor quality screen when you have a 1280 Super IPS+ screen sitting next to it.
So I'm kind of on the fence right now. There are certainly some thoughts that I should just make things easy and return the Infinity and get her another laptop. But Windows has already caused her endless troubles over the last 4 years and I would really like to avoid repeating that. I'm not really looking forward to sitting down and ripping all of her existing DVDs, but I guess that it could be done over the period of some weeks. Hrm...

Splaktar said:
I've seen a Portable USB Blue-ray players posted on Amazon.com from Panasonic ($55-60) and Samsung ($85). But some require an AC adapter and others require 2 USB ports to power them.
Has anyone tried one with the Infinity? Can you please tell me your experience?
I'll update this thread with more information as I research this topic.
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Your issue is not getting the hardware to work, with the right drivers you might very well get to use the drive as a data drive, but there is no software apps for android to decrypt commercial blue ray movies. If you want to have it as a drive then you may eventually get drivers in a custom ROM to make this work, but in the near future you're not gonna get commercial blue ray movies on your tab. Your best bet is to rip the movie on a computer move it to your tab or play it off the network.
Also keep in mind that Blu-rays come in 2 major flavors right now, some use h.264 video and some use vc1 video, the infinity can easily play back full spec h.264, but I have had no luck getting it to play back vc1.

Updated the OP with links to related discussions and a blurb about why I'm looking into this. I have to make a decision in the next couple weeks about keeping the Infinity or returning it and going with a traditional laptop.

Guess what - I was just able to connect my portable USB DVD burner to my TF700, mount a DVD and actually read it!! I remember trying this with the TF101 and would not work but it's working on TF700! Here's how (have to be rooted, I believe):
1. Connect the USB DVD device (I'm using a Toshiba "Portable Super Multi Drive").
2. Insert a DVD
3. Create a directory to mount the DVD to:
# mkdir /mnt/cdrom
4. Mount the DVD:
# mount -t iso9660 /dev/block/sr0 /mnt/cdrom
5. That's it! If you do a "ls -l /mnt/cd", you'll see your CD/DVD files! You can now see the DVD files via ES FIle Explorer, etc too!
So, I can now read DVD's with my TF700 - something that was always lacking with my Transformer!
What would really be cool is to be able to write DVD's now!
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2

jtrosky said:
Guess what - I was just able to connect my portable USB DVD burner to my TF700, mount a DVD and actually read it!! I remember trying this with the TF101 and would not work but it's working on TF700! Here's how (have to be rooted, I believe):
1. Connect the USB DVD device (I'm using a Toshiba "Portable Super Multi Drive").
2. Insert a DVD
3. Create a directory to mount the DVD to:
# mkdir /mnt/cdrom
4. Mount the DVD:
# mount -t iso9660 /dev/block/sr0 /mnt/cdrom
5. That's it! If you do a "ls -l /mnt/cd", you'll see your CD/DVD files! You can now see the DVD files via ES FIle Explorer, etc too!
So, I can now read DVD's with my TF700 - something that was always lacking with my Transformer!
What would really be cool is to be able to write DVD's now!
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Awesome! But can you actually play a DVD movie via any of the available media players?

Splaktar said:
Awesome! But can you actually play a DVD movie via any of the available media players?
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I will give it a shot (need to find a DVD - haven't used one in years - stream EVERYTHING now!). I highly doubt it will work via video DVD"s though as they are encrypted, etc...
I'll report back.
But, being able to read data CD's/DVD's fixed that one last thing that you could still do on a laptop, but not on a Transformer (read optical media)...
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In short > since its for OLD FOLKS > who often get easily frustrated @ things not workin right from first try ,,,,
IMHO... and having helped number of folks in that generation(s) .... i would buy her a LAPTOP ... you can get one with BD player easy for less than "infinity+DOCK" now
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In short > since its for OLD FOLKS > who often get easily frustrated @ things not workin right from first try ,,,,
IMHO... and having helped number of folks in that generation(s) .... i would buy her a LAPTOP ... you can get one with BD player easy for less than "infinity+DOCK" now
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That's the thing. Her old laptop hasn't 'just worked'. The webcam drivers have to be reinstalled every 2 months. The firewall and virus scan pop ups are needed but cause great confusion. Automatic backups have been problematic. The battery doesn't last long enough. The laptop is too heavy. It gets too hot. Her fingers get tired and sore using a keyboard and mouse.
So really an ultrabook with an external bd player might be the best solution if money wasn't an issue. But that is currently $350 more and doesn't have a touch interface or the ability to remove the keyboard.

Well if dvd and bluray playback is required, i think your best bet may be to wait for the surface tabs and hope microsoft includes bluray/dvd decryption. Their intel based model will surely work but will also be ultrabook expensive.
Right now ripping and or streaming are your only real options.

Splaktar said:
The basic issue that I'm trying to address is the following:
I'm trying to replace my mother in law's old Acer laptop with an Infinity. I've been able to resolve my questions about printer and printing support from the Infinity. I've also resolved just about every other question that would stand in the way of doing this. The last remaining issue is that she owns a number of DVDs (and very few BDs) and she enjoys watching them when she travels. She does have a portable DVD player, but it is a shame to watch that poor quality screen when you have a 1280 Super IPS+ screen sitting next to it.
So I'm kind of on the fence right now. There are certainly some thoughts that I should just make things easy and return the Infinity and get her another laptop. But Windows has already caused her endless troubles over the last 4 years and I would really like to avoid repeating that. I'm not really looking forward to sitting down and ripping all of her existing DVDs, but I guess that it could be done over the period of some weeks. Hrm...
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I would recommend you help her convert her movie collection to a digital portable format. It's a little time consuming at first, but once you are used to doing it you can do it overnight and not really notice the time it takes.
There are sooo many tools out there for converting videos. I love free ones (Handbrake, MediaCoder, DVDShrink, DVDFab HD Free) but they take a lot more work to learn how to use properly, in my opinion. There are easier to use tools like the DVDFab suite which will rip (copy) and convert all in one. Many of the free ones require you to use two or three programs to achieve your goal. One of my favorite compression programs is TMPGEnc, but it isn't free and it doesn't "rip" (copy) discs by itself either so you still need something to copy. It is very powerful and works very well.
What ever you pic, plan on taking some time to learn how to use it right, find guides on how to use it and experiment. Once you settle on what works for you and her, you can usually streamline it and make it easier.

Thanks guys, seems like a lot of work just to watch a video. Like mentioned I stream everything as well. I guess this would be good for road trips and hooking the tf700 to a dash. Thanks!

Thanks for the compilation. Any new / recent news / updates?

johnlgalt said:
Thanks for the compilation. Any new / recent news / updates?
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I've been keeping my eyes open for news about this or new BD players designed for Android. So far nothing new but I haven't done any more in depth research. Probably soon...

Yeah, in another thread jrotsky said that ISO9660 support in 10.4.4.16 seems to have disappeared....if that is the case then that seems more like a reversion to me....

Splaktar said:
I've seen a Portable USB Blu-ray players posted on Amazon.com from Panasonic ($55-60) and Samsung ($85). But some require an AC adapter and others require 2 USB ports to power them.
Has anyone tried one with the Infinity? Can you please tell me your experience?
Here are some links to relevant discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033887
Another XDA thread about Android and External DVD/Blu-Ray Players
http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...54-tf201-dock-usb-external-bluray-drives.html
Basically says that Android lacks UDF 2.5 filesystem support as well as an OEM to build Android drivers for their Blu-ray player.
http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...ns/9784-usb-port-play-external-dvd-drive.html
Here is a drama and information filled thread that covers a lot of related topics. The basic result is that they don't expect Blu-ray support on the Transformer line, ever, as digital content is what is being pushed now. Google especially has a Play Store designed to get you to buy movies and shows in digital format and not on BD or DVD.
http://www.transformerforums.com/forum/asus-video/3377-play-bluray-external-usb-bluray-drive.html
Another thread with basically the same info. Not much to read.
I'll update this thread with more information as I research this topic.
The basic issue that I'm trying to address is the following:
I'm trying to replace my mother in law's old Acer laptop with an Infinity. I've been able to resolve my questions about printer and printing support from the Infinity. I've also resolved just about every other question that would stand in the way of doing this. The last remaining issue is that she owns a number of DVDs (and very few BDs) and she enjoys watching them when she travels. She does have a portable DVD player, but it is a shame to watch that poor quality screen when you have a 1280 Super IPS+ screen sitting next to it.
So I'm kind of on the fence right now. There are certainly some thoughts that I should just make things easy and return the Infinity and get her another laptop. But Windows has already caused her endless troubles over the last 4 years and I would really like to avoid repeating that. I'm not really looking forward to sitting down and ripping all of her existing DVDs, but I guess that it could be done over the period of some weeks. Hrm...
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Why not use handbrake and rip all her content to dropbox or drive, then let her stream them? Problem solved
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dasunsrule32 said:
Why not use handbrake and rip all her content to dropbox or drive, then let her stream them? Problem solved
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Mostly just because she gets new content every week or so. That would mean that I'd be spending a lot of my time ripping discs. It's obviously an option, but I'm not sure how effective it will be.
I did keep the TF700 and am still planning on giving it to her, but I still might end up just keeping it for myself and giving her a new laptop instead. One issue with just streaming everything from the Play Store or Amazon, etc is that she lives in Peru most of the year and many of those streaming services are not allowed/supported there. I've also heard stories of people traveling from the US to Europe and being unable to access their purchased video content from the Play Store due to the country that they were in.
I'm not sure if Drive/Dropbox/Box have any of those issues with access/support internationally or not.

i brought one but it had two usb ports and didnt read on my tablet

NO HDMI for the GT-P3113 tab 2 7.0 (returning)

I am seriously considering that the tab 2 7.0 needs to be returned for lack of HDMI support. I have called Samsung three times concerning HDMI or TV out support, they told me it is coming. But the tab 2 10.1 now has HDMI support, so I am thinking that 7.0 support might never materialize.
Has anyone else decided to return thier 7.0 for lack of HDMI support? Has anyone tried and been successful? I bought mine from Amazon the first week.

I dont understand why people buy these devices and start crying about hdmi support, honestly who gives a crap?
In reality how many times will you exactly use the feature? Netflix? Xfinity? Because last i seen xbox 360 has the apps.
Unless you doing powerpoint presentations then its a pointless feature. A tablet is a "portable device" meaning its meant for you to carry it around for portable entertainment, i highly doubt you gonna carry a hdmi cable around and plug it into every tv you see.....
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rvdangel630 said:
I dont understand why people buy these devices and start crying about hdmi support, honestly who gives a crap?
In reality how many times will you exactly use the feature? Netflix? Xfinity? Because last i seen xbox 360 has the apps.
Unless you doing powerpoint presentations then its a pointless feature. A tablet is a "portable device" meaning its meant for you to carry it around for portable entertainment, i highly doubt you gonna carry a hdmi cable around and plug it into every tv you see.....
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Don't own an Xbox and do not subscribe to Netflix. I do have a lot of movies that are watched on my tab and when visiting friends they sometimes want to share a movie viewing together, when they are not pretending to be a soldier or a badman of course. There are times when stuck in a hotel room before a regional meeting and I need to review a presentation that bigger would be better. But the main reason I would consider returning the tab is because it was sold with HDMI support.
Imagine if your game would not allow you to get the BIG gun you spents weeks trying to earn.
Okay, just kidding a little.
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Didn't know we were supposed to have HDMI support. Any idea how they added the support to the 10.1" model?
I had a microHDMI spot on my Droid Charge and never used it and didn't know anyone that used it more than one or two times just to see if it worked. IMO, it's more of a gimmick than anything else. I would think that using the AllShare app that comes with the tablet would be easier to use than playing around with HDMI cables.

Well if you knew you needed hdmi then you should of gotten one that has support for it. But instead you whine about not having it. If you needed it that bad there are plenty other tablets. But instead you opted to get the cheapest tablet on the market and hoped to get support for it later. Its stupid to start a thread about an item you returning anyway. Just my opinion.
And to add hdmi is not the only way to share a movie at a friends house, and most hotels still have not upgraded there tube tvs so its still pointless.
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Well if you knew you needed hdmi then you should of gotten one that has support for it. But instead you whine about not having it. If you needed it that bad there are plenty other tablets. But instead you opted to get the cheapest tablet on the market and hoped to get support for it later. Its stupid to start a thread about an item you returning anyway. Just my opinion.
And to add hdmi is not the only way to share a movie at a friends house, and most hotels still have not upgraded there tube tvs so its still pointless.
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Truly dude !!! i don't think anybody is whinning, The first manual clearly stated that the tab2 7.0 supported this feature, nobody made this crap up!!! Samsung did, so anybody that purchased the TAB2 with this feature in mind is screwed!!! now what? Return it, call Samsung and complain!!! Why does a customer have to go through this crap...seriously. So please don't give an opinion if you don't know the facts!!!
Thanks,

I would have returned this too. I am looking for a nice cheap tab with hdmi out to play stuff on my big screen tv. Did samsung release the fix

get an android set top box. The cost of the cable will be half of those boxes anyway

rvdangel630 said:
I dont understand why people buy these devices and start crying about hdmi support, honestly who gives a crap?
In reality how many times will you exactly use the feature? Netflix? Xfinity? Because last i seen xbox 360 has the apps.
Unless you doing powerpoint presentations then its a pointless feature. A tablet is a "portable device" meaning its meant for you to carry it around for portable entertainment, i highly doubt you gonna carry a hdmi cable around and plug it into every tv you see.....
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Well, this doesn't help the OP at all. Who are you to question how people use their devices? A tablet is a multimedia device that should have video output, and most of us do give a crap about it. That's why some of us purchased the first Galaxy Tab 7 CDMA/GSM. So what if the stupid xbox has apps?... a $60 DVD player has apps. They aren't portable. And, yes, we do carry HDMI cables around- like when we travel and connect the device to a hotel TV. But, I guess if you stay in your room all day playing video games, you don't really travel.
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get an android set top box. The cost of the cable will be half of those boxes anyway
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Another useless response. Don't get me wrong- I have a Logtitech Revue and love the Google TV. But, again, it isn't portable.
The lack of video output on the newer tablets is what keeps me from buying any of them. I still stick with my old SPH-P100 for it's features that the new ones don't have. I honestly don't see how these companies decide that HDMI out- either directly or indirectly- is worth the "savings". I personally would pay the extra $10 it takes to add it to the tablet. Hell, my Rezound is HDMI-out capable. Why can't a tablet have the same feature? Especially a 7" tablet, which is seriously too small for more than one person to watch anything. Sometimes you just need to show stuff on the big screen.
Android is all about versatility- and cutting back on the hardware is just tying the OS's hands. The companies should let the consumers decide which features to use instead of forcing them to accept the limited ones they provide. There has to be a way to get an all-around great mid-size tablet with every useful feature for under $250.
So, in answer to the OP- no, the new tablet doesn't appear at all to have any video output. I don't even think the old docks work with the new tablets. Otherwise, I would suggest rooting and flashing a different ROM that would support video out using the old multimedia dock. I also see that there is nothing in the tablet's specs mentioning any type of video output... so if it did before, shame on Samsung for false advertising.
It is possible for Samsung to add video output with a firmware update and a hardware adapter... the question is, will they?

I only interested when using the Gtab2 as presentation device (using Wifi to laptop, and then laptop to projector)
There's no need for HDMI anyway, the cable is expensive & too short

ITs' pretty clear from Samsung's specs on the G Tab 2 .7 that it does not have the hardware for HDMI. If you had bothered to read any of the reviews you would have seen they dropped that hardware as a way to cut the cost. You can't fix it if it don't exist in the device.

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ITs' pretty clear from Samsung's specs on the G Tab 2 .7 that it does not have the hardware for HDMI. If you had bothered to read any of the reviews you would have seen they dropped that hardware as a way to cut the cost. You can't fix it if it don't exist in the device.
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But... but, the original manual said it DID had the support for HDMI.

When I bought my US GT-P3113 it was advertised as having HDMI by every website that had a pre-released review posted. I was not satisfied by the third party confirmation for HDMI support. So I placed calls to Samsung support asking for a PDF user guide or confirmation that the tab supported HDMI. They confirmed that it would support HDMI but that the online user guide was not available for download.
I bought my tab from Amazon for $249.00 full retail the first week that it was released. The manual that was enclosed with the tab did verify that HDMI was supported. I asked people on this forum to confirm that it worked with thier HDTV adapter. They answered and the answer was "it does not work". I called Samsung and they told me that a new adapter was on the way and that my tab would support HDMI soon.
I waited a few months and then it became apparent that HDMI would never be supported. I called Amazon for a refund and at first they refused until a supervisor was engaged and they approved a fulll refund instantly.
After not having my tab for a week I stopped by MicroCenter in my area and they had the US GT-P3113 for $199.00. I bought it from them and it had the updated manual which does not state support for HDMI (Build date 06/2012), I am happy with my tab and use DNLA with my Samsung LED TV, but I would still like HDMI support.

Well I wasn't around for pre-release hype, but as it stands now, the P3113 has no hardware inside to support this function. The P6200 and P6210 (Gtab 7 Plus) both have hardware and do support the function. Bottom line is you cannot make software support hardware that doesn't exist.

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Bottom line is you cannot make software support hardware that doesn't exist.
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Wow!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob_AeSbB-qg
anyone know if this works?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob_AeSbB-qg
anyone know if this works?
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Sure, very easy! Just get the P1000 model of the tablet, and this accessory cable that they show. The Amazon link is in their blog post. But what does this video have to do with the Tab 2?

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Sure, very easy! Just get the P1000 model of the tablet, and this accessory cable that they show. The Amazon link is in their blog post. But what does this video have to do with the Tab 2?
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Aha! Apparently nothing. I thought the dude was using a tab 2 in the vid. Thanks for the clarification.

[Q] Just ordered it, so any advice

I just ordered my shield and really looking forward to using it. hopefully it arrives as quickly as amazon promised*touch wood*
honestly i got it mainly for game emulation like a lot of others. so i just wanna ask anything in particular i should be on the watch for like
during set up,
programs you'd recommend
which emulators to use
are roms easy to get on to it
do certain games or systems not work
or just general things i need to watch out for
thanks in advance

deano_ue said:
I just ordered my shield and really looking forward to using it. hopefully it arrives as quickly as amazon promised*touch wood*
honestly i got it mainly for game emulation like a lot of others. so i just wanna ask anything in particular i should be on the watch for like
during set up,
programs you'd recommend
which emulators to use
are roms easy to get on to it
do certain games or systems not work
or just general things i need to watch out for
thanks in advance
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Alot of people complain of emulator slowdowns when using the newest system software. However i havent experienced any. I use snes9x for snes games, haves used it since the psp and on windows as well. Drastic for ds emulation, kinda spendy but it works really well too and worth the money. Espxe for ps1 emulation. Thats all about all i use. I bought a mini hdmi and ps3 controller for when i use it on my bigscreen and its awesome. Game streaming is also awesome. Playing watch dogs on the shield is pretty sweet haha. Roms are straight forward copy and Paste to the shield when its hooked up to pc via usb. Or u can pull the sd card and put it in a usb reader. Transferring via wifi is pretty easy as well. Half life 2 and portal are worth the money even though i have both already i bought them again [emoji1] everything is pretty straight forward and easy. Dont know if you plan on rooting it but thats pretty easy too. Any more questions ppst away

If mainly emulation, no real point in updating. I have all my roms on the sd card. Saves for emulators do not work if on the card with kitkat. Best to stay away from kitkat IMO if just emulators and Android games.

cheers guys, managed to get everything working except mame4all. cant seem to find the roms folder