Reasons why some people consider S4 as an evolutionary upgrade
Number 1. The design- The design jump from S2 to S3 was a big jump for galaxy s devices to jump from a squarish look to a a more rounded edges look. But the S4 still retains the design of its predecessor and most likely they hate the design. Samsung somewhat thinks that because many millions of peoplebought the galaxy S3 means that the design was good. But the reason why S3 is because of the inside, not the outside.
Number 2 The OS- S2 was running 2.3.6 when galaxy s3 launched with ICS,they call it a big jump because of no lags when swiping homescreen, overall better experience and a totally new look. But the jump from 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 wasnt that massive (not samsungs fault) but the problem is its UI looks became so complicated that normal users will have harder time looking for all the new features of the galaxy S4 and UI doesnt change but it becames more complicated
Number 3 Features- More likely this is the selling feature that made the galaxy S3 famous, the addtions of features from 4.0 was the face unlock, lock screen features, and etc but most likely the features are from google itself, not samsung. And the features added by samsung are more gimmickry. Then samsung add more of them in the S4 which average might not even touch even 1 of them. And not all the features are game changing they are just for show-offs. And those camera features are utter not sensoble to be called inovation, its good to have it here but samsung must just focus on the thing that makes galaxy S4 looks like a dump of bloatware
And lastly, the lag. 4.1.2 on S3/Note 3 was already smooth but this 4.2.2 on the galaxy S4 lags, iknow this can be fix by tweaks in rooting but for average user S4 look like a mid range phone cause of lag. I know that S4 is the first 4.2.2 non-nexus device,but samsung must make android less laggy, than adding features and apps which are prior useless or sometimes considered bloatware
Im not against galaxys4 but its time for Samsung to realize to make the Note 3 a game changing device ^^
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I guess my S4 is bugged, cause I've never even had something that reminds me of the word lag.
But if you say so... I'm sure you know what you're saying
Which mobile do u have???
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No lag here. Ever.
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Who really cares? Either people like it and buy it, it they don't! Yeah the jump isn't huge from s4 to s3, neither was the s2 to s3! Majority of users probably won't upgrade more than once every two years or so. Provided all phones are an improvement in the ones the customers are coming from, what does it really matter if it was only an evolution rather than revolution?
Calm down OP. You'll get yours s4 finally one day. No need to depeciate the phone publicly.
You know it's an amazing device.
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For me its revolutionary as well as evolutionary..as we are about to see much on such a specification. ..n anyway whoever owns it proudly show it off..who dont for them grapes will always be sour..
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It's evolutionary because it is a touch screen phone like it's predecessors.
The first iPhone was revolutionary, but that was a long time ago.
Nevertheless it is the best, ever made!
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Yeah wots with all the lag complaints? I've got the 9505 flavour and consider myself a real heavy user. My s3 was always running low in resource and suffering lags and redraws when pushed but I can honestly say its pretty much non existant on this device.
Also remember we are on very early firmwares at the mo so things will improve as the software matures.
My favorite improvement over the s3 is defo the ir blaster, kids always stealing my remotes and hiding them so just this one new feature for me makes the s4 a revolutionary step a remote for all my home hardware that I can call if I cant locate genius
I love the vanilla android expierience on nexus but I dont think the s4 would have that wow factor without the skins features etc thay come with the s4 and samsungs tweaks.
Also the s4 is the first galaxy I haven't rooted because I havent had any need to change anything. Every other galaxy I have had and ive had 12 and 3 was rooted and touchwizless
Sview is also awesome. Just wish the case offered more protection.
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Reasons why some people consider S4 as an evolutionary upgrade
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Compared to what? Do you consider the HTC One revolutionary because its metal? The iPhone's been metal for years. Are the SGS4 Active and Xperia Z revolutionary because they are waterproof? Waterproof phones have been out in Asia for years. Is there any phone currently on the market that has better h/w specs than the SGS4?
The problem is phones have advanced so quickly we're running out of "revolution." As for the design, Samsung's clearly applying a common design ethos to all their devices as every device released soon before and after the SGS4 all look the same. So you may not like Samsung's design choices but they are following in the footsteps of Apple, BMW, and M-B who all evolve their designs in the name of branding. Based on the initial sales reports I'd say it seems to be working.
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iknow this can be fix by tweaks in rooting but for average user S4 look like a mid range phone cause of lag.
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LOL for god sake..
BarryH_GEG said:
Compared to what? Do you consider the HTC One revolutionary because its metal? The iPhone's been metal for years. Are the SGS4 Active and Xperia Z revolutionary because they are waterproof? Waterproof phones have been out in Asia for years. Is there any phone currently on the market that has better h/w specs than the SGS4?
The problem is phones have advanced so quickly we're running out of "revolution." As for the design, Samsung's clearly applying a common design ethos to all their devices as every device released soon before and after the SGS4 all look the same. So you may not like Samsung's design choices but they are following in the footsteps of Apple, BMW, and M-B who all evolve their designs in the name of branding. Based on the initial sales reports I'd say it seems to be working.
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HTC One X -------> HTC One = huge difference
Xperia S -------> Xperia Z = huge difference
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Calm down OP. You'll get yours s4 finally one day. No need to depeciate the phone publicly.
You know it's an amazing device.
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I already have it bro, going to sell it then buy note 3
here we go again on the "gimmick" word. i bet if those features are released on iOS first they will be herald as "innovative" and "amazing" features
but yeah this is samsung so every new feature they release will be "gimmicky"
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HTC One X -------> HTC One = huge difference
Xperia S -------> Xperia Z = huge difference
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and guess what SGS3 is greater than those two phones (one x and xperia s), samsung just went into "milk the market" mode and the product of that is the SGS4
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HTC One X -------> HTC One = huge difference
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Huge? They both have 4.7" displays, the One X used S3 and the One uses S-600, and neither have removable batteries or expandable storage.
What's "new" on the One? Dual front speakers? Samsung started that with tablets a year ago. BlinkFeed? It's written by Mobile Republic and not HTC and download Socialife from Sony and you'll have a better version of the same thing on your SGS4. A 4MP camera with bigger photosites? First introduced by Nokia and the One's camera gets mixed reviews. Zoe? A single "scene" uploads 20 uncategorized pics to Dropbox and Flickr. The SGS4 has GG3, DDR3 RAM, and a ton of new sensors and is also thinner, lighter, and has a 5" display in a body the same size as the SGS3. So "huge" is in the eye of the beholder. People that equate design with "revolution" need to get over it. Based on all the recent devices Samsung's released looking "familiar" I wouldn't expect anything radical any time soon.
No phone released this gen appears truly "revolutionary". The software is ultimately what's driving much of the innovation in smartphones, and software is just what Samsung focused mostly on, while also providing the best hardware. The beauty of "gimmick features" is that they can be disabled, but they're also there if you want to use them. Don't want them on your phone? Just root and remove. Want to get them back? Recovery is easy.
I'm still impressed that the S4 managed to be about the same size as its predecessor, while being lighter, having a bigger screen, and getting jam packed with more sensors and better hardware, including a larger battery. In addition to its partnering with tech companies like Mobeam to altar the way you make payments or deal with physical gift/membership cards. Things like that may not be "revolutionary", but it's a damn great way to evolve.
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Hello Dear Viewers,
I am here to gather your opinions. This is just a discussion and not a debate. So please be nice.
I am posting this in the Galaxy S2 forum because i use it currently.
I am selling my iphone 4 and i was thinking which phone to go for next.
The features that i require are:
A fantastic camera, the iphone 4s has the best image capabilities i see.
And a call record mod which allows me to record calls. Which is not available on the iOS.
Now my question is should i buy the galaxy s3 or the htc one x or the iphone 4s.
And i already know the specs of all the phones. I just need your personal preferences.
And i know that people dont buy the iphone for its hardware , they buy it for that ease of use.
I'm choosing a s3 due to its screen resolution and the 22nm chipset, I feel comfortable with open source and the support from xda devs then ios, would like to try siyah on a s3, one x doesn't interest me, no sdcard, no removable battery and the battery drain from the lcd screen,the tegra is weaker I hear,
I'm planning to get a s3, that with paranoid android and its dpi per app would be perfect.
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Hello Dear Viewers,
I am here to gather your opinions. This is just a discussion and not a debate. So please be nice.
I am posting this in the Galaxy S2 forum because i use it currently.
I am selling my iphone 4 and i was thinking which phone to go for next.
The features that i require are:
A fantastic camera, the iphone 4s has the best image capabilities i see.
And a call record mod which allows me to record calls. Which is not available on the iOS.
Now my question is should i buy the galaxy s3 or the htc one x or the iphone 4s.
And i already know the specs of all the phones. I just need your personal preferences.
And i know that people dont buy the iphone for its hardware , they buy it for that ease of use.
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If I were you if that's all you need from an android phone go with the s3. If you want to flash roms and stuff wait for the next nexus or buy a galaxy nexus and an slr
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Thank you for your replies, i am leaning towards the galaxy s3
The iPhone 4S, Samsung Galaxy S3 and HTC One X all have excellent, fairly similar cameras
Stay with your sgs2 then wait for the next Google phone.....welcome,you made the right choice.
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S3 my friend. The sound quality and picture quality are superb. The S3 has the Same Camera chip as the 4s, but a slightly improved one of that chip. Also, zero lag shutter means you DON'T even realize when pictures are taken because it is so fast. In burst mode, 20 pictures in 3 secs. It also has HDR and other functions in the camera settings you'll probably like
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Stay with your sgs2 then wait for the next Google phone.....welcome,you made the right choice.
IN CODEWORKX WE TRUST.
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Nexus lacks good camera until now and stock Android doesn't support call recording
Go for s3
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Go for S3, Android is limitless unlike on ios...
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Out of those three devices, NONE.
Wait for the next Nexus and iPhone, then decide.
I own an iphone 4 and recently acquired sgs2. My first 6 months of iphone i was happy with it. 7month i jailbroke it. Then i was happy agaib. 8th month im looking forward to heavily tweak my iphone. After that i did some stuffs like tweaking the system.however i got bores due to the closed and restricting ios. I cant have enough so i acquired galaxy s2 first day im soo happy with it because it is fast. 2nd day i go to xda to find how to root flash etc etc. Then 5th day i flashed speedmod kernel then 6th day flashed neak. Im so happy with my droid. and o i was a wm user back in the old days of the first xperia i also tweaked and mod and flashed it.
To make it short . SGS3 FTW. ANDROID FTW HAHA
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republicano said:
I'm choosing a s3 due to its screen resolution and the 22nm chipset, I feel comfortable with open source and the support from xda devs then ios, would like to try siyah on a s3, one x doesn't interest me, no sdcard, no removable battery and the battery drain from the lcd screen,the tegra is weaker I hear,
I'm planning to get a s3, that with paranoid android and its dpi per app would be perfect.
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You meant 28nm CPU right? You are referring to the Qualcomm MSM8960 CPU? OP, you need to differentiate between the US Galaxy S3, which uses this 28nm CPU and International S3 which uses a 32nm Exynos 4.
I don't think choosing any of these phones from S2 is a good idea, better wait till the end of this year for newer nexus or Note 2 if you don't like nexus devices
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Go for S3, Android is limitless unlike on ios...
High On Android
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The TRUTH.
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Wow thank you everybody, i am staying with android. I will wait till the year end to upgrade i guess and honestly i never got bored of my galaxy s2, so many RoMs so many new features... but iOS just has cydia... and thats it. Cant even tweak it...
I'd go for the SGS3 unless you really don't like samsung's touchwiz so much that you'd rather wait for the next nexus. And you can always use other launchers. ADW EX launcher is a good one with a lot of options.
If you had an upgrade what would you choose.........
My choice would be the one. I like the LCD screen found on the DNA. I have alot of faith in the 4 Ultra pixel camera. I want a phone that doesn't feel like a child's toy. The quadrant scores on the One were amazing, although I'm sure the S4 will come close. What would you choose?
FYI: all phones have ultra pixels, however there 1.1. The ones found on the One are 2.0. Just saying
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After samsungs sharade unpacked event of the galaxy s4/s3 pebble 2 with shiney stuff around the edge ..
My kids inheratance would be heading towards htc
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HTC uses perfect materials, it feels great when you hold it in your hand
Currently on an htc phone and with HTCs inability to update software in a timely fashion that makes me question them all together.
I have a samsung tablet but I am leaning towards the S4 due to samsung overall being the better product and updating things in a timely manner.
It took htc nearly a year to get ics on this and it's horrible for everything.
Go with Samsung. Overall it's just better supported and more highly recognized
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HTC uses perfect materials, it feels great when you hold it in your hand
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Did you just say perfect materials? If by plastic you mean perfect your on the wrong track by far
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ShapesBlue said:
Currently on an htc phone and with HTCs inability to update software in a timely fashion that makes me question them all together.
I have a samsung tablet but I am leaning towards the S4 due to samsung overall being the better product and updating things in a timely manner.
It took htc nearly a year to get ics on this and it's horrible for everything.
Go with Samsung. Overall it's just better supported and more highly recognized
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Did you just say perfect materials? If by plastic you mean perfect your on the wrong track by far
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Wait, so we should get a device based on what is more recognized? That's an awesome view you have there, lol!
Wondering what was so bad with ICS? I have an Amaze the wife uses and runs fine, funny she has actually had 3 OTA updates compared to my two on my s3.
I can't wait till the One drops! Definitely my next phone for sure.
Oh and you think HTC uses plastic now? The One is all aluminum....wow, so misinformed....
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Wait, so we should get a device based on what is more recognized? That's an awesome view you have there, lol!
Wondering what was so bad with ICS? I have an Amaze the wife uses and runs fine, funny she has actually had 3 OTA updates compared to my two on my s3.
I can't wait till the One drops! Definitely my next phone for sure.
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Well currently the htc one isn't available on my carrier. So the best phone available is the S3 and soon to be S4. I don't hate htc I just could care less to stick with them
And it's called my opinion for a reason. If you don't like it then that's your opinion
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Support support support.
Samsungs got the best devs !
If you like to customize your phone. Go with sammy.
Also I just wsnna say HTC designs have always been nice. They have lackluster batteries though.
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Jooosty said:
Support support support.
Samsungs got the best devs !
If you like to customize your phone. Go with sammy.
Also I just wsnna say HTC designs have always been nice. They have lackluster batteries though.
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Dude that's the truth with the batteries for sure
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The event for the unpacking of the GS4 was ridiculous! Seriously I watched the hole "show" and I was awaiting for the new killer feature that would erase the concurrents.
First of all, the design. Some of you may say "don't change the lineup of a working team" but personally I'm tired of the same designs with Samsung devices lately. It's the same on the GS3, on the note 2 and now on the GS4 ? Show some innovation Samsung!
I love Android, I never had an iPhone and never wanted one, but from the design, iPhone 5 is way better built.
HTC really got that and the amazing device that is the ONE is the proof.
You can't say "yeah I choose my device because it'll have more updates!". Wrong!
Every high marketed device comes with killer features ! 2gb of RAM? That's normal now. 32 or 64 gb of storage / 5 inch screen? Normal too...
The thing is they all look alike in a hardware point of view, that's why nowadays the design is very important.
A good design means a device built with beautiful and premium materials and that the device's design changes from the device that came out before.
Samsung didn't get that. Although the S series of Samsung is gonna sell at uncomputable numbers every one knows that, I don't think it's a major need to upgrade from the s3 to S4 because I just don't see the point except waisting money.
I think it may attract some of those who will walk in a store and see the device (thanks to the amazing job of marketing that Samsung always does) but for those who were waiting it to be a great and revolutionary device, the disappointment is the real feeling.
HTC ONE is the killer smartphone of 2013's beginning, sorry Samsung you'll do better next time. Or not ^^
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The event for the unpacking of the GS4 was ridiculous! Seriously I watched the hole "show" and I was awaiting for the new killer feature that would erase the concurrents.
First of all, the design. Some of you may say "don't change the lineup of a working team" but personally I'm tired of the same designs with Samsung devices lately. It's the same on the GS3, on the note 2 and now on the GS4 ? Show some innovation Samsung!
I love Android, I never had an iPhone and never wanted one, but from the design, iPhone 5 is way better built.
HTC really got that and the amazing device that is the ONE is the proof.
You can't say "yeah I choose my device because it'll have more updates!". Wrong!
Every high marketed device comes with killer features ! 2gb of RAM? That's normal now. 32 or 64 gb of storage / 5 inch screen? Normal too...
The thing is they all look alike in a hardware point of view, that's why nowadays the design is very important.
A good design means a device built with beautiful and premium materials and that the device's design changes from the device that came out before.
Samsung didn't get that. Although the S series of Samsung is gonna sell at uncomputable numbers every one knows that, I don't think it's a major need to upgrade from the s3 to S4 because I just don't see the point except waisting money.
I think it may attract some of those who will walk in a store and see the device (thanks to the amazing job of marketing that Samsung always does) but for those who were waiting it to be a great and revolutionary device, the disappointment is the real feeling.
HTC ONE is the killer smartphone of 2013's beginning, sorry Samsung you'll do better next time. Or not ^^
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Really the iPhone is a better built phone? It's built in the same foreign countries with the same parts except for the processor. IPhones are boring useless pieces of crap
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Me getting S4. Although HTC One has better build quality but for everything else, HTC is not the company I would bet on. It will probably never get updates after one or two.
On the other side Samsung is adding more and more features in each update and from last year when I purchased S3, I already got 3-4 updates. Plus they already working on another one with all these latest features.
On hardware side, I think S4 has upper hand on HTC One. Battery is larger, processor is faster, S4 Screen is bigger but phone is little smaller. S4 Screen is better. Not to mention expendable microSD slot and replaceable battery.
So I would not want a phone with better built quality but strong specs and better features.
I think that's the main reason why I switched from iPhone to S3 in the first place. I know a lots of people might hate me for saying this but iPhone has best build quality among all phones out there.
So definitely Galaxy S4.
I said " I love Android, I never had an iPhone and never wanted one, but from the design, iPhone 5 is way better built."
So please understand my sentence as it sound ^^
I'll say again maybe in other words this time, when you grab an iPhone 5 and when you grab a S3, don't tell me that the S3 has a more premium look and feel... And that's not a question of opinion, that's a fact.
I never mentioned the prices of the devices but if you want to, we'll see the price of the S4, when they'll show it at 699$ then you'll tell me the difference with the iPhone. The only device that is worth talking on a price basis is the Nexus 4. The rest of'em are just a scam
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I said " I love Android, I never had an iPhone and never wanted one, but from the design, iPhone 5 is way better built."
So please understand my sentence as it sound ^^
I'll say again maybe in other words this time, when you grab an iPhone 5 and when you grab a S3, don't tell me that the S3 has a more premium look and feel... And that's not a question of opinion, that's a fact.
I never mentioned the prices of the devices but if you want to, we'll see the price of the S4, when they'll show it at 699$ then you'll tell me the difference with the iPhone. The only device that is worth talking on a price basis is the Nexus 4. The rest of'em are just a scam
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iPhones honestly aren't worth the price no matter how discounted they are.
While they may be built better your comparing apples to oranges. No pun intended on the apple thing.
But really I think we can all mostly agree here that android overall is better.
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You can't say "yeah I choose my device because it'll have more updates!". Wrong!
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Well it's probably true for new buyers. But for a experienced users, it matters.
When I switched S3 from iPhone, I didn't actually know about all this. I had option to choose S3 or HTC One X and I went with S3 because it's more popular and had better support.
From what I learn in last year, I could never buy HTC or Motorola phones.
These companies never support their devices. They even lock bootloaders so we cannot update our devices ourself or install updated custom roms.
I am also a little disappointed with S4 release but I would pick S4 over HTC one any day.
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Me getting S4. Although HTC One has better build quality but for everything else, HTC is not the company I would bet on. It will probably never get updates after one or two.
On the other side Samsung is adding more and more features in each update and from last year when I purchased S3, I already got 3-4 updates. Plus they already working on another one with all these latest features.
On hardware side, I think S4 has upper hand on HTC One. Battery is larger, processor is faster, S4 Screen is bigger but phone is little smaller. S4 Screen is better. Not to mention expendable microSD slot and replaceable battery.
So I would not want a phone with better built quality but strong specs and better features.
I think that's the main reason why I switched from iPhone to S3 in the first place. I know a lots of people might hate me for saying this but iPhone has best build quality among all phones out there.
So definitely Galaxy S4.
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I have to agree with everything you just said. Even the iPhone built quality part. But really, if I were you, I wouldn't waist money upgrading from S3 to S4...
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Samsung really pulled an Apple with this Galaxy S3s. But HTC is not to be trusted
rl421403 said:
Well it's probably true for new buyers. But for a experienced users, it matters.
When I switched S3 from iPhone, I didn't actually know about all this. I had option to choose S3 or HTC One X and I went with S3 because it's more popular and had better support.
From what I learn in last year, I could never buy HTC or Motorola phones.
These companies never support their devices. They even lock bootloaders so we cannot update our devices ourself or install updated custom roms.
I am also a little disappointed with S4 release but I would pick S4 over HTC one any day.
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Yea I've completely gone away from Motorola all together myself and that's a selling point for me being able to root my phone and changing it around nearly completely
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This was exactly like last year for me.
I wanted a phone with huge storage capacity/microSD capacity and long battery life/removable battery with decent specs. And QWERTY but I have given up on the last thing.
The HTC One X was released and as pretty as the White one was, it definitely was not a purchase I was willing to make and I waited for the Samsung Galaxy S3 announcement. The announcement came and Samsung gave me what I wanted. I bought the S3.
Fast forward this year. HTC One announced. Still no microSD slot but looks like decent battery life. Looks very pretty too (I still think the white One X is the best looking HTC phone though). Not bad this time around HTC but let's wait to hear from Samsung. S4 gets announced and again, they have what I want from last year.
If I was choosing again between HTC or Samsung this year: Samsung Galaxy S4 because it has what I want from last year.
Luckily I want more stuff this year which is why I'm not going to buy a S4. My S3 is lovely and I don't need to buy an S4. However, I now really want a bigger screen. This year, I'll be looking to buy a Note 3 or competitor version as long as it has a huge screen, huge capacity/microSD, huge battery.
Honestly, I don't care what company you are or even what your phone looks like (I bought the S3 for god sakes). Just give me what I want and I'd buy it. I'm also eyeing the Blackberry Q10 simply because of the QWERTY but I think my lust for a bigger screen will win out. Plus the stylus is alright...right?
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I have to agree with everything you just said. Even the iPhone built quality part. But really, if I were you, I wouldn't waist money upgrading from S3 to S4...
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No, I am not saying, I am upgrading S4 from S3. But I would pick S4 over HTC One.
I will probably get Note 3. I also do not rule out possibility to get S4, if I get some cool discount.
I bought S2 just after S3 came out. I thought to myself - who needs these modifications, S2 will do the work and will cost less.
Ow, I was wrong.
Now S4 is the latest cry. I wish I had money for all of Samsung gadgets!
What I heard so far about the S4 - the specs/advantages are not that big compared with the S3. Most of the announced features are app driven and I wil never go to use the stock roms and the manufacturer apps - I prefer to go with custom roms.
I will not be one of the early adopters ...
Except for the bragging right S4 is not much better that the S2.
S2 can do anything s4 can do and is lighter.
Point of thread being?
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Except for the bragging right S4 is not much better that the S2.
S2 can do anything s4 can do and is lighter.
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I don't want to bash the S2, but really?
I guess it depends on what you need on a phone, and I do understand you trying to justify keeping the S2 instead of buying a new one, but you cannot deny that the S4 is a lot better than the S2 in almost every single area (things improve quickly in mobile phones hardware, so in about 2 years, a lot has changed).
My girlfriend has the gs2 and it's not even in the same league as the gs3. The gs4 is better than the gs3, so it might be a bigger upgrade than you think.
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Except for the bragging right S4 is not much better that the S2.
S2 can do anything s4 can do and is lighter.
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I'm not even a Samsung fan and I have to say that's a crazy statement. The s4 blows the s2 away. Gandalf is right.
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Except for the bragging right S4 is not much better that the S2.
S2 can do anything s4 can do and is lighter.
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You are wrong.
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You are wrong.
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How's that?
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Name 1 thing the s4 or s3 can do that the s2 can not do?
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Name 1 thing the s4 or s3 can do that the s2 can not do?
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Uhhhh full 1080p high def screen with a retina crushing pixel density of 441.
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Doesn't do anything more than the s2... just high resolution.
Given me a feature or function that only the S4 S3 can do that my s2 can not that would have a significant improvement or impact on my life. Not just some spec upgrade...
Can s4 make pizza or something?
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Doesn't do anything more than the s2... just high resolution.
Given a function that only the S4 S3 can do that my s2 can not. Not just some spec upgrade...
Can s4 make pizza or something?
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S4 can be used as a tv remote via the infared thingy...and most things the s2 can do...well the s4 will be able to do it better/faster/smoother
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I have a thing called Tv remote...
I can totally see what he is saying. For the average person the LG dare would be MORE than enough phone and doo what they need to do even compared too the sgs3. But I will be UPGRADING from my sgs3 to the s4 on launch day because I want a higher res screen, larger screen, processor, gpu, camera, gimmicky? Features.the ability to say.hey i have an s4 and you have an s2. Sure they can do most the same things. But my s4 it's gonna do it blazing fast and look better while i do it inside that gigantic case I'm going to put it in and hide all the pretty.
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Saying S4 is not really different from S2 is like saying a computer based on the 3rd generation Core i7 is not that different from a Pentium D, either plain ignorance or just in denial. Raw specs alone will make many things that require raw processing power possible. A denser display means better experience to the eye, especially for the elderly if they wish to zoom heck in for text. There's just so much you can do with better hardware, just compare how choppy Android even back when S2 was released. S3 and same gen phone is the turning point where Android starts to have a more fulfilling user experience. Now S4, One, Optimus Pro improves it even further and I think this is pretty much a transitional stage where wearable device is going to be the hot item next year instead of a piece of monolithic plastic with giant display slapped onto it.
my S2 with Neatrom JB is very smooth already.
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my S2 with Neatrom JB is very smooth already.
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Yet you still need to tweak it. For people here, yes it might be an easy feat to do, but for many other normal customers ? Out of the box experience might not give us the true potential of a phone but normal customers will be turned off by choppy stock performance. I really hate it when people here only see it from the view point of people who have the know how to tweak their phones.
If humanity has the mentality like this, I doubt we would even see smartphone which has monster spec rivaling that of a notebook which is many times larger and heavier. I doubt humanity itself will progress for the better. Why should I settle for inferior experience when there is something better in front of me ?
So, basically, my 2012 iMac is really no different from the old iMac that used PowerPC processors, just because both can surf the web? Sometimes, these things just need plain raw power. And btw, I would say that the S4 is a good device to upgrade to from a 2011 device.
Sure, my arc s runs fine on Jb 4.2.2 for everyday usage with a couple init.d tweaks and some mods. But the newer phones are just going to be faster and more efficient. You can't argue with that.
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So, basically, my 2012 iMac is really no different from the old iMac that used PowerPC processors, just because both can surf the web? Sometimes, these things just need plain raw power. And btw, I would say that the S4 is a good device to upgrade to from a 2011 device.
Sure, my arc s runs fine on Jb 4.2.2 for everyday usage with a couple init.d tweaks and some mods. But the newer phones are just going to be faster and more efficient. You can't argue with that.
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And I love playing games like Mc4 and Shadowgun but I can't because my phone just can't handle that. Find me a way to run MC4 on my phone without going back to GB and I will not upgrade to the s4.
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I hate when people bash a new device because they own the previous generation and their's is now obsolete. It doesn't take a scientist to tell you the gs2 is worse then the s4.
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Im looking to purchase the GS4 but i see people saying it's more like an S3S upgrade than a true GS4 upgrade. But looking at the specs and the host of software upgrades the GS4 actually has more features upgraded from the GS3 than the Iphone 4 to Iphone 5. Do you guys think it's worth the upgrade coming from a GS3?
Because those are apple I.idiots. There is been a huge update only design changed a little. But for isheep update is only when design change completely.
I never owned S3 but will get S4 soon
Here are some updates:
-Biger screen same phone size
- Slimer
- New faster and more energy efficient CPU and GPU
- Double Ram
- Biger battery
- 2 new sensors
- Better camera
- Wireless charging
- tons of software new functions. Some are jut gimmicks but a lot of them are nice add-ons like music sharing and drama shots etc
Show me that much changed between 4 and 4 s
Most people are stupid they think if Samsung make a triangle phone then it will be an update lol
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This has been discussed to death, so in short.
If you got cash and always want to have the latest and greatest, buy it.
If not, the S3 is still a great phone after all.
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Im looking to purchase the GS4 but i see people saying it's more like an S3S upgrade than a true GS4 upgrade. But looking at the specs and the host of software upgrades the GS4 actually has more features upgraded from the GS3 than the Iphone 4 to Iphone 5. Do you guys think it's worth the upgrade coming from a GS3?
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Depends if you got the money for it. Most of the features will eventually come to the S3, if you can wait it could end up saving you some cash.
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Im looking to purchase the GS4 but i see people saying it's more like an S3S upgrade than a true GS4 upgrade. But looking at the specs and the host of software upgrades the GS4 actually has more features upgraded from the GS3 than the Iphone 4 to Iphone 5. Do you guys think it's worth the upgrade coming from a GS3?
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Here's Apple's iPhone upgrade evolution. Based on it, you tell me whether the SGS4 is really a "SGS3s." And on the design side their devices are no more evolved from version-to-version than Samsung's devices.
Lol
Ofcouse annual upgrades don't take water to wine, but in my books just the new GS4 sensores ( new exclusive features) are enough to get the "S" from GS3.... and there's more.
That question is pretty subjective, but in my opinion the hardware has changed enough for me to consider this a full step up.
I think he was hiding under the rock and woke up after 2 months, lol. I think you should check out some reviews to know how powerful this device is.
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Im looking to purchase the GS4 but i see people saying it's more like an S3S upgrade than a true GS4 upgrade. But looking at the specs and the host of software upgrades the GS4 actually has more features upgraded from the GS3 than the Iphone 4 to Iphone 5. Do you guys think it's worth the upgrade coming from a GS3?
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I think you should listen to the idiots and ignore the facts.
It's the same with any phone. None are massive upgrades.
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In fact, it's more like iPhone 4s -> iPhone 5 than from iPhone 4->4s
what would you consider worthy of getting the next number (in this case 4) instead of a (s)
hardware wise we pretty much hit a plateau with smartphones. as for software, there is very little new features on both platforms that current hardware can't support.
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Im looking to purchase the GS4 but i see people saying it's more like an S3S upgrade than a true GS4 upgrade. But looking at the specs and the host of software upgrades the GS4 actually has more features upgraded from the GS3 than the Iphone 4 to Iphone 5. Do you guys think it's worth the upgrade coming from a GS3?
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The biggest problem the gs4 has is that it looks very similar to a gs3. There's no doubt imo that feature wise it's an upgrade. While users of xda may not give a rats ass how a device looks as long as it has the latest and greatest hardware, the general public may want a little more. You need to decide whether you need a little more...
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The biggest problem the gs4 has is that it looks very similar to a gs3. There's no doubt imo that feature wise it's an upgrade. While users of xda may not give a rats ass how a device looks as long as it has the latest and greatest hardware, the general public may want a little more. You need to decide whether you need a little more...
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It's actually the other way around. I think here on xda and tech savvy people are the One who care about the looks. The General public couldn't care less. If it says Galaxy S 4 instead of 3 then it's good to go. It means its newer and they don't really ask questions plus Samsung does a great job at advertising.
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I don't really get it how people are talking about design and s4 before even holding it in their hands and seing it for themselves.
I had th s1 then s2 then s3 then note2 and now I have the s4... let me tell you that design wise...The s4 is a lot better than the s3 and better even than the note2... when I look at the s3 now and then look back to the s4 I really hate the s3 looks... The s4 looks and feels more premium and a lot better looking and holding than the s3....
When you people get the s4 in your hands and still don't see the design difference you can at that point in time talk about it but not before.
I feel the whole thread is useless until then.
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I don't really get it how people are talking about design and s4 before even holding it in their hands and seing it for themselves.
I had th s1 then s2 then s3 then note2 and now I have the s4... let me tell you that design wise...The s4 is a lot better than the s3 and better even than the note2... when I look at the s3 now and then look back to the s4 I really hate the s3 looks... The s4 looks and feels more premium and a lot better looking and holding than the s3....
When you people get the s4 in your hands and still don't see the design difference you can at that point in time talk about it but not before.
I feel the whole thread is useless until then.
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I agree. People always judge without even holding the device itself. We are just a few days away from its release so we will find out soon enough.
The physical differences between the S3 and the S4 are not radical but still very obvious to me. The S4 doesn't have the chubby sides like the S3 and it's more rectangular, which I like. I just never liked the S3 design because of its chubby side bulges and the asymmetrical placement of its home button.
I personally used HTC one and now am using Galaxy s4.The only area where the HTC one excelled is the build quality but to be honest s4 quality is not too bad .it is really solid compared to the Galaxy s3.HTC one is loaded with creepy software where everything is a confusion.not many new options are introduced in the htc one except the boom sound,blink feed .I dont know why the blogs are giving bad reviews to the galaxy s4.it is lot better compared to htc one,xperia z or zl and any other smartphones now even the one of the most useless iphone 5 which is the longest phone according to Apple :cyclops:
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I personally used HTC one and now am using Galaxy s4.The only area where the HTC one excelled is the build quality but to be honest s4 quality is not too bad .it is really solid compared to the Galaxy s3.HTC one is loaded with creepy software where everything is a confusion.not many new options are introduced in the htc one except the boom sound,blink feed .I dont know why the blogs are giving bad reviews to the galaxy s4.it is lot better compared to htc one,xperia z or zl and any other smartphones now even the one of the most useless iphone 5 which is the longest phone according to Apple :cyclops:
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Only American reviews bashed the s4. Also blogs tend to want to start trends so if the big ones start talking about plastic vs aluminum everyone else will. All bad reviews are based on build materials only. Anyway you can't force your choice on others
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I personally used HTC one and now am using Galaxy s4.The only area where the HTC one excelled is the build quality but to be honest s4 quality is not too bad .it is really solid compared to the Galaxy s3.HTC one is loaded with creepy software where everything is a confusion.not many new options are introduced in the htc one except the boom sound,blink feed .I dont know why the blogs are giving bad reviews to the galaxy s4.it is lot better compared to htc one,xperia z or zl and any other smartphones now even the one of the most useless iphone 5 which is the longest phone according to Apple :cyclops:
so please share your opinions about the s4...
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Don't have the S4 yet but from vids, reviews and users I can say that the S4 has a better build quality then the One. Build quality is no the same as design and choice of material. Many One users complain(Ed) about speakers falling off, gap between the screen and the body of the phone stuff like that. The S4 doesn't have a flaw in its build. Sure its plastic but it is well build. There's no crack any where, no holes or nothing.
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I have to say, I just switched from the HTC One to the S4. The One is a quality piece of hardware. The speakers on the front is really nice and it feels really good in the hand. I have 2 primary issues with it. One, Sense has not kept up with the latest good features that have been added to JellyBean. It seems to be a really dated interface. Two, ok, so you don't like the OS provided, unlock the bootloader using the HTC supplied method. OOps, now you have voided your hardware warranty (and they know about it). Big problem when your non-user serviceable battery dies a year into your 2 year contract....
The S4 is not as sexy a hardware platform, but it has better OS, and given enough time, you should be able to root/unlock and install your own OS. Even if it voids your warranty, you can still replace the battery, add micro SD memory and more. Right now I will settle for rooting it and removing bloatware.
I also don't have the Samsung Galaxy S4 yet but I would love to buy as soon as payday comes. I love the features and also I am looking for the quality of camera when buying a phone and it's good. Hoping to have the phone soon.
Where is the setting to add app shortcuts to the lockscreen?
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Where is the setting to add app shortcuts to the lockscreen?
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Lock screen setting
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Lock screen setting
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this made me lol for some reason
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this made me lol for some reason
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Lol then you are easily amused =p
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