On extended batteries... - Samsung Infuse 4G

Hi all, just stopping in for a bit with some information pertaining to extended batteries.
Most, if not all extended batteries made for the Infuse were made when the phone was first introduced over 2.5 years ago. That being said, understand that Li-Ion batteries do have a shelf life not unlike that of alkaline batteries in the sense that their useful life gets shorter over time. Li-ion batteries come from the factory with a full charge in preparation for the perceived storage time, and will usually be sold before the end of their useful life cycle. Most times this is around 3 years.
See where this is going?
If the extended batteries were made when our phone was introduced, and our phone is now around 2.5 years old, AND Li-Ion batteries only have around a 3 year shelf life, what's to say were not being sold junk when we buy an extended battery from an online auction site?
I've had good experiences and bad ones with buying extended batteries online, and most vendors are willing to work with you in the event of a failed battery, but you will notice that less and less of these extended batteries will be offered for sale, and the ones that are will be nearly brand new with a hefty price tag to boot.

PoXFreak said:
Hi all, just stopping in for a bit with some information pertaining to extended batteries.
Most, if not all extended batteries made for the Infuse were made when the phone was first introduced over 2.5 years ago. That being said, understand that Li-Ion batteries do have a shelf life not unlike that of alkaline batteries in the sense that their useful life gets shorter over time. Li-ion batteries come from the factory with a full charge in preparation for the perceived storage time, and will usually be sold before the end of their useful life cycle. Most times this is around 3 years.
See where this is going?
If the extended batteries were made when our phone was introduced, and our phone is now around 2.5 years old, AND Li-Ion batteries only have around a 3 year shelf life, what's to say were not being sold junk when we buy an extended battery from an online auction site?
I've had good experiences and bad ones with buying extended batteries online, and most vendors are willing to work with you in the event of a failed battery, but you will notice that less and less of these extended batteries will be offered for sale, and the ones that are will be nearly brand new with a hefty price tag to boot.
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My thinking exactly, didn't know if it was legitimate though, and I was only guessing at approximate shelf life so thanks Pox for confirmation! I ordered a new battery just yesterday!
Only 1800 mAh though. I'm only trying to see if it's the infamous power button issue or not that's causing shut downs and I need to rule out a faulty battery (currently running some cheap 1450 mAh $5 battery from cellphoneshop.net, first and last time I get that one) as an issue.
I generally found that every extended beyond 2100 mAh requires a new back, making the phone thicker and therefore incompatible with most cases.

Well, as to prove a point and make me look foolish, the extended battery in my gfs Infuse decided it was time to let out the magic smoke just last night.
It erupted with enough force to crack the screen from the inside (outer screen is undamaged) and got hot enough to melt the sim card to the socket!
I will be taking pictures as I would like to try to get the seller of the battery to either replace or repair the phone. If not I'll be seeking another Infuse...

PoXFreak said:
Well, as to prove a point and make me look foolish, the extended battery in my gfs Infuse decided it was time to let out the magic smoke just last night.
It erupted with enough force to crack the screen from the inside (outer screen is undamaged) and got hot enough to melt the sim card to the socket!
I will be taking pictures as I would like to try to get the seller of the battery to either replace or repair the phone. If not I'll be seeking another Infuse...
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THAT'S POSSIBLE? :-O Sorry to hear that, dude. Post the pics!

Rayk1080 said:
THAT'S POSSIBLE? :-O Sorry to hear that, dude. Post the pics!
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Nice, eh? How do you like the swirling effect the smoke made on the inside of the screen? Oh, and the battery was glowing red when it popped.

PoXFreak said:
Nice, eh? How do you like the swirling effect the smoke made on the inside of the screen? Oh, and the battery was glowing red when it popped.
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:-OOOO
Tough break, Pox! Or...tough break Pox's gf! Lol so is it beyond repair?
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I don't think it's beyond repair, but to be honest I don't think it's worth the effort.
It does boot with nothing on the screen but a screen to fit this phone is actually more than I can get the phone for.
I was able to boot the phone and extract the over 8gig of pics and various other stuff, now the phone is sitting in waiting for Samsung or the seller of the defective battery to get back to me about a possible replacement.

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Mugen 4500mAh Extended Battery for G2X

Look what I found on Mugen's international site. Of course it has a new back cover for the phone because the battery is so chubby. But 4500mAh, dang!
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...tery-for-lg-optimus-2x-p990-t-mobile-g2x.html
thanks for the link but NO WAY! $100+ is way to rich for my blood...
i just ordered 2 of these. i like the idea plus they are solar and charge all my gadgets on top of my phone. and shipping from china is 22 for dhl but they are worth it and are the size or smaller than our phone! holds almost twice the charge with multiple voltages including 3.7v which is ours.
Total was around $52 after shipping but just sell one or keep the other for twice as much! ill repost this link in thread.
http://www.chinavasion.com/product_...arger-for-mobile-phones-and-mini-usb-devices/
Dolphinwigs said:
thanks for the link but NO WAY! $100+ is way to rich for my blood...
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Too expensive and UGLY
Wow, out if my budget.
I could buy 3 external batteries including shipping, for that.
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look at the back cover on that thing and then the shape of the batter! what a waste of space!
I am sorry but I get plenty of juice out of my battery, i dont know what i would do with a battery twice the size let alone three times the size of my current one... that **** would last all week without needing a recharge!
honestly for the same price, little bigger and more juice i could just lug around a mini nuclear reactor... where is tony stark when you need him? im trying to hook my phone up with that mini arc reactor bro!
Yeah, that is way too bulky for the size. If they wanted to extend the back of it, why wouldnt they make the battery a sort of P shape that extends further up the back so it doesnt have to bulge as much?
I MIGHT buy a battery that only makes the back case flush with the camera. I already dont like that camera hump on the back, so a battery that only needed to extend that much or a tiny bit more would be perfect. Maybe like a 2500mAh?
Thread cleanup, back on topic please.
My question here is this: Is it completely safe to use this battery?
I'm thinking perhaps in the future I might want to buy one because I deplete my battery extremely fast with constant use. The only thing I'm worried about is if it will hurt my phone in any way.
lightningomega said:
My question here is this: Is it completely safe to use this battery?
I'm thinking perhaps in the future I might want to buy one because I deplete my battery extremely fast with constant use. The only thing I'm worried about is if it will hurt my phone in any way.
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you know I was thinking this too, but I did watch some reviews on youtube on their other 4500 mah extended batteries for other android phone models. It doesn't look that bad, infact it seems to make the phones look like a tiny miniature powerhouse PCs from the future.
Right now it says their sold out and will get new stock in June, I'm definitley gonna get one. If like the reviews say that some people don't have to charge this extended battery after 3 days of heavy use then I'll be in G2x heaven. Infact, I would bet as LG was in the design proces for the phone that they were shooting for a phone that could last for 3-5 days on one battery charge, but since marketing research thinks consumers will only buy a slim form factor cell phone, they opted to cut corners on performance for cosmetics, which absolutley sucks in my opinion.
just ordered it. Will post a review once I receive it.
I ordered the 4800 one for my atrix as well. I just received that one today. Will try it out when I get home!
dilwaala said:
just ordered it. Will post a review once I receive it.
I ordered the 4800 one for my atrix as well. I just received that one today. Will try it out when I get home!
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Right on, can't wait for the review. Just wanted to ask though, I saw that they were out of stock and that they'd get more in stock and if I ordered on that certain day I looked on the site, I would get it on June 3rd. I looked at the site again and it said if I ordered that day I'd get it on the 10th, now I checked again today and it said if I ordered I'd get it on the 6th. What gives with all the different ship dates?
You also said you just got the 4800 for your Atrix.
When did you order that one and how long did it take for you to recieve it?
How was it shipped out to you, UPS or USPS?
How did you purchase, with credit card or paypal?
How professional are they and quality of the product?
Does the product come with a specific charger?
And how long did your Atrix last on standard battery and how long does the Mugen battery last?
Sorry for the questions, I'm just very interested in this battery and I'm so ready to purchase, just waiting till they get it in stock, before I ordered, although I'm so anxious just to put in the order now and wait for them to ship it out to me on the proposed date a couple weeks later. But is that wise?
Remember most extended batteries are scams
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Suprah said:
Remember most extended batteries are scams
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Check the forums for an easy to build tester. I tested a few, and stock batteries for g2 and vibrant, none of the extended ones lived up to their claims. They had more capacity, but not what they claimed, and some caused instability. Stock oem tested within 5%. Extended varied wildly, best being about 25% shy of stated. Imo, that's false advertising at best.
I still have the tester set up. Ship me a battery and I'll test it for you if you like. I'll even pay to ship it back to you, but I will post about it here if you do. Personally, I'm not wasting any more money on them for myself.
jacob808 said:
Right on, can't wait for the review. Just wanted to ask though, I saw that they were out of stock and that they'd get more in stock and if I ordered on that certain day I looked on the site, I would get it on June 3rd. I looked at the site again and it said if I ordered that day I'd get it on the 10th, now I checked again today and it said if I ordered I'd get it on the 6th. What gives with all the different ship dates?
You also said you just got the 4800 for your Atrix.
When did you order that one and how long did it take for you to recieve it?
I ordered it on 5/13 and received it on 5/20
How was it shipped out to you, UPS or USPS?
Came via USPS
How did you purchase, with credit card or paypal?
I used paypal. Had no issues
How professional are they and quality of the product?
The quality of the product is awesome. At least so far. This is my second Mugen battery. I had one for the nexus one as well. worked just fine. The one for the atrix ROCKS right now. On average usage (with stock battery) I would get about 1.5 days. With the Mugen, I hit 3 days with 1 full charge under the same usage pattern
Does the product come with a specific charger?
Nope. Just the battery and the back cover.
And how long did your Atrix last on standard battery and how long does the Mugen battery last?
1.5 days vs. 3 days
Sorry for the questions, I'm just very interested in this battery and I'm so ready to purchase, just waiting till they get it in stock, before I ordered, although I'm so anxious just to put in the order now and wait for them to ship it out to me on the proposed date a couple weeks later. But is that wise?
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You also said you just got the 4800 for your Atrix.
When did you order that one and how long did it take for you to recieve it?
I ordered it on 5/13 and received it on 5/20
How was it shipped out to you, UPS or USPS?
Came via USPS
How did you purchase, with credit card or paypal?
I used paypal. Had no issues
How professional are they and quality of the product?
The quality of the product is awesome. At least so far. This is my second Mugen battery. I had one for the nexus one as well. worked just fine. The one for the atrix ROCKS right now. On average usage (with stock battery) I would get about 1.5 days. With the Mugen, I hit 3 days with 1 full charge under the same usage pattern
Does the product come with a specific charger?
Nope. Just the battery and the back cover.
And how long did your Atrix last on standard battery and how long does the Mugen battery last?
1.5 days vs. 3 days
By the way, I had a Milestone as well, which also had an extended battery but from Seidio, and that battery i was NOT happy with. Did not add anything in addition to the stock.
The only way to test a battery is using an external load / voltmeter jig. Based on my past experience with Mugen, their 4500mAh battery will test out much lower, my bet is somewhere around 3400mAh. Just enough to make you feel like you got value for your money. Theres no way the average consumer can compare battery life using the phone itself.
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The only way to test a battery is using an external load / voltmeter jig. Based on my past experience with Mugen, their 4500mAh battery will test out much lower, my bet is somewhere around 3400mAh. Just enough to make you feel like you got value for your money. Theres no way the average consumer can compare battery life using the phone itself.
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Yup you're right. I do not have a voltmeter handy so I'm just relaying my observations.
So far, it's been good (I'm still talking about the Mugen Atrix battery since I haven't reeived the G2x one yet). Far better than the stock battery (not just by a couple of hours but by days) so I'm happy
rotohammer said:
The only way to test a battery is using an external load / voltmeter jig. Based on my past experience with Mugen, their 4500mAh battery will test out much lower, my bet is somewhere around 3400mAh. Just enough to make you feel like you got value for your money. Theres no way the average consumer can compare battery life using the phone itself.
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I'll pay a hundred bucks to get at least 2-3 days on one charge. Anything to get rid of this miserable battery life that makes you feel anxiety when you're away from an outlet, especially if you use the G2x like I do which is on the internet constantly browsing and watching vids and playing vid games.
Although on another note, auto airplane mode does indeed make the phone somewhat viable and stops the drastic bleeding when the phone is not being used, and I also notice that under settings> accounts & sync> background data turned off also helps very much with the horrible battery drain when on standby.
Tmobile has sent me a replacement battery which I had to pay $10 shipping, so I might recieve it on the 3rd of June, I'll hold off on the Mugen 4500 mah and see how the replacement from tmobile goes and play around with the other settings I just mentioned. I just don't like the idea of switching out the batteries each time. Gonna put wear and tear on the battery cover and all, so even though I have an extra battery, I'm still considering the Mugen extended.
jacob808 said:
I'll pay a hundred bucks to get at least 2-3 days on one charge. Anything to get rid of this miserable battery life that makes you feel anxiety when you're away from an outlet, especially if you use the G2x like I do which is on the internet constantly browsing and watching vids and playing vid games.
Although on another note, auto airplane mode does indeed make the phone somewhat viable and stops the drastic bleeding when the phone is not being used, and I also notice that under settings> accounts & sync> background data turned off also helps very much with the horrible battery drain when on standby.
Tmobile has sent me a replacement battery which I had to pay $10 shipping, so I might recieve it on the 3rd of June, I'll hold off on the Mugen 4500 mah and see how the replacement from tmobile goes and play around with the other settings I just mentioned. I just don't like the idea of switching out the batteries each time. Gonna put wear and tear on the battery cover and all, so even though I have an extra battery, I'm still considering the Mugen extended.
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I know exactly what you mean! That is the reason I was willing to spend $100+ on a battery because I didn't want to bother carrying extra batteries all the time or swapping them out or worry about charging each one..
I have one, lasts me 3+ days and don't have to swap anything.
Might not be ideal for most people, might be heavy but hey... it's perfect for me
Without a doubt, there is value in having a battery that can last 2 or 3 days. I've purchased large capacity batteries from Mugen and Seidio, and happily used them.
But, for the price paid for these batteries, I also expected to get what was advertised in terms of mAh rating. It irritates me that these companies feel that they can just print whatever inflated rating they want on these batteries and there is no consequence for them.
Heres what I've determined: High quality OEM batteries I've used in the last 4 years all have been around 1500mAh, as that seems to be the sweet spot in terms of size vs capacity for a phone manufacturer. Mugen & Seidio use cheaper cells, typically 1200mAh for the same physical dimensions as the OEM cell. From there, its simple math, 2 cells equals 2400mAh (not the 3000mAh stamped on the sticker. My guess, without even looking at a picture, is that the Mugen 4500mAh battery is a 3 cell unit with a real capacity of 3600mAh.
3600mAh is not a bad setup, I'd throw $100 for it. But I'd still be irritated.
What would be really nice is the manufacturer giving us the option of buying another cell, the stock oem battery with a replacement back that had a charge balance circuit and anything else it would need to be reliable. Known good cells, just an extra one.

Extended Battery Question

So I was on amazon looking for extended batteries. I've heard that the anker and hyperion batteries are reliable, and that some batteries can be worse than others. I wanted to get two extended batteries (3500mAh ones) and this seemed good:
http://www.amazon.com/Aftermarket-P..._1_6?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1337731035&sr=1-6
does anyone know if this is any good? The fact that it comes with a belt clip is sort of appealing
Would've been nice if it came with an external charger, but I can probably do with the one I already have.
Anyways, anyone have any tips or suggestions concerning good/decent extended batteries for the epic 4g?
1LastBreathx said:
So I was on amazon looking for extended batteries. I've heard that the anker and hyperion batteries are reliable, and that some batteries can be worse than others. I wanted to get two extended batteries (3500mAh ones) and this seemed good:
http://www.amazon.com/Aftermarket-P..._1_6?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1337731035&sr=1-6
does anyone know if this is any good? The fact that it comes with a belt clip is sort of appealing
Would've been nice if it came with an external charger, but I can probably do with the one I already have.
Anyways, anyone have any tips or suggestions concerning good/decent extended batteries for the epic 4g?
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There Generic so its going to be a hit miss situation from my understanding and what iv'e seen go down with the reviews. but take a look here and get your information on the Generic 3500 mAh for our phones
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25030648&postcount=10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25392549&postcount=31
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25729513&postcount=37
Here's a few screenie's from my phone using the Hyperion 3500 mah i have 2 of them and they're about the same.
On CM7 i could get a day's worth of battery with about 1-2 Hours of actual screen on time. Or6 Hours of screen on time and 7 hours on the battery just straight streaming netflix. I have gotten 2 Days before on Cm7 with 1.5 Hours of screen on time for display.
On ICS i can get about 15-18 Hours depending on usage
XxLostSoulxX said:
There Generic so its going to be a hit miss situation from my understanding and what iv'e seen go down with the reviews. but take a look here and get your information on the Generic 3500 mAh for our phones
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25030648&postcount=10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25392549&postcount=31
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25729513&postcount=37
Here's a few screenie's from my phone using the Hyperion 3500 mah i have 2 of them and they're about the same.
On CM7 i could get a day's worth of battery with about 1-2 Hours of actual screen on time. Or6 Hours of screen on time and 7 hours on the battery just straight streaming netflix. I have gotten 2 Days before on Cm7 with 1.5 Hours of screen on time for display.
On ICS i can get about 15-18 Hours depending on usage
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so none of them are actually 3500 mAh right? and it looks like they can actually be worse than the stock batteries?? I guess it wouldn't be too bad since I don't really mind changing batteries (i'll be getting 2 "3500" mAh batteries)
1LastBreathx said:
so none of them are actually 3500 mAh right? and it looks like they can actually be worse than the stock batteries?? I guess it wouldn't be too bad since I don't really mind changing batteries (i'll be getting 2 "3500" mAh batteries)
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It would be in your best interest to get the hyperion. I've had great results with both of the ones i have. I barely even complained about a broke backing and they sent me a brand new complete unit free of charge. Cant go wrong with Hyperion.
ÜBER™ said:
It would be in your best interest to get the hyperion. I've had great results with both of the ones i have. I barely even complained about a broke backing and they sent me a brand new complete unit free of charge. Cant go wrong with Hyperion.
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Exactly my 2 have been outstanding and it has been more than a month and have still same performance.
1LastBreathx said:
so none of them are actually 3500 mAh right? and it looks like they can actually be worse than the stock batteries?? I guess it wouldn't be too bad since I don't really mind changing batteries (i'll be getting 2 "3500" mAh batteries)
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Definitely spend the 15$ and grab the Hyperion, much better.
Or 2x 1800 mAh ankers.
I am actually going to get the Ankers they will be here tomorow so i will go ahead and test them out and reply back here and other battery stat thread.
wonder if this would fit in ours granted its the Epic Touch it should but for us the highest ive seen is 3500 so this could be interesting to see
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-Sams...92/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337739010&sr=8-12
ÜBER™ said:
It would be in your best interest to get the hyperion. I've had great results with both of the ones i have. I barely even complained about a broke backing and they sent me a brand new complete unit free of charge. Cant go wrong with Hyperion.
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my bro insisted on Anker batteries (he has an Anker battery for his SG2, working really well), and they have much better reviews than the other batteries. Hyperions sound good too... I'll look into it.
thanks for the input! XD
ÜBER™ said:
It would be in your best interest to get the hyperion. I've had great results with both of the ones i have. I barely even complained about a broke backing and they sent me a brand new complete unit free of charge. Cant go wrong with Hyperion.
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I'd love to have yours on my test bench to clear their name, because the only one I've tested didn't out shine 2/3 generics I have.
1LastBreathx said:
so none of them are actually 3500 mAh right? and it looks like they can actually be worse than the stock batteries?? I guess it wouldn't be too bad since I don't really mind changing batteries (i'll be getting 2 "3500" mAh batteries)
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They aren't 3500mAh no, but while they don't reach their claimed capacity, they offer a hefty value as far as capacity/dollar is concerned. True OEM 1500 batteries can be closer the same price ($7.89 here, still more expensive though) and true OEM 1800mAh batteries are more then double the 1500's in cost (best price I found here was $17.66).
If the swivel case isn't a huge loss for you, maybe get just one battery and see for yourself for much cheaper, $6.53 here
XxLostSoulxX said:
There Generic so its going to be a hit miss situation from my understanding and what iv'e seen go down with the reviews. but take a look here and get your information on the Generic 3500 mAh for our phones
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25030648&postcount=10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25392549&postcount=31
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25729513&postcount=37
Here's a few screenie's from my phone using the Hyperion 3500 mah i have 2 of them and they're about the same.
On CM7 i could get a day's worth of battery with about 1-2 Hours of actual screen on time. Or6 Hours of screen on time and 7 hours on the battery just straight streaming netflix. I have gotten 2 Days before on Cm7 with 1.5 Hours of screen on time for display.
On ICS i can get about 15-18 Hours depending on usage
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Sounds about on par with how I'd expect the Hyperion to perform, and it's hard to say since it was my oldest Generic but it *seems* as though the larger print "3500" batteries don't perform as well as the small print labeled ones (which if you ever looked at the Hyperion, it has the small print label )
(Thanks for the thread rep'n btw )
1LastBreathx said:
my bro insisted on Anker batteries (he has an Anker battery for his SG2, working really well), and they have much better reviews than the other batteries. Hyperions sound good too... I'll look into it.
thanks for the input! XD
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I've heard good things about Ankers as well but sadly have not got a chance to test any so word of mouth is the best review we have for them
As for the Hyperion, I know it's only one test but they seem to be just as hit or miss with more to lo$e
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25154927&postcount=11
for other batteries check out my battery thread in my sig!
iviyth0s said:
As for the Hyperion, I know it's only one test but they seem to be just as hit or miss with more to lo$e
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25154927&postcount=11
for other batteries check out my battery thread in my sig!
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i think you just got a bad one im telling you both mine and both UBER's Kick A$$
BTW did you take a look at the 3800 mAh Hyperion
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-Sams...92/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337739010&sr=8-12
iviyth0s said:
I'd love to have yours on my test bench to clear their name, because the only one I've tested didn't out shine 2/3 generics I have.
They aren't 3500mAh no, but while they don't reach their claimed capacity, they offer a hefty value as far as capacity/dollar is concerned. True OEM 1500 batteries can be closer the same price ($7.89 here, still more expensive though) and true OEM 1800mAh batteries are more then double the 1500's in cost (best price I found here was $17.66).
If the swivel case isn't a huge loss for you, maybe get just one battery and see for yourself for much cheaper, $6.53 here
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I ordered the $6.53 ones (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004MB66B0/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new) just for the heck of it, along with 2 1800 mAh Anker+charger for $20. Will see how this turns out
1LastBreathx said:
I ordered the $6.53 ones (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004MB66B0/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new) just for the heck of it, along with 2 1800 mAh Anker+charger for $20. Will see how this turns out
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Let us know!! I'd love to test your two Ankers though to add some more variety to my testing
XxLostSoulxX said:
i think you just got a bad one im telling you both mine and both UBER's Kick A$$
BTW did you take a look at the 3800 mAh Hyperion
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-Sams...92/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337739010&sr=8-12
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Well one or both of you needs to send them to me to clear their name so I can recommend them
I did see that but I wonder if it will fit differently since it's for epic touch....I'm mighty tempted though haha
iviyth0s said:
Let us know!! I'd love to test your two Ankers though to add some more variety to my testing
Well one or both of you needs to send them to me to clear their name so I can recommend them
I did see that but I wonder if it will fit differently since it's for epic touch....I'm mighty tempted though haha
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just wondering, how exactly do you conduct these tests? and the epic touch's battery is a few millimeters longer than the epic 4g's ='( and it's 4 pronged or w/e while the epic 4g is 3. if aligned correctly, the battery is able to power the epic 4g though
1LastBreathx said:
just wondering, how exactly do you conduct these tests? and the epic touch's battery is a few millimeters longer than the epic 4g's ='( and it's 4 pronged or w/e while the epic 4g is 3. if aligned correctly, the battery is able to power the epic 4g though
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I'm not worried about length or width as the OEM Epic Touch battery (aka the 1800mAh) fits easily into our phones, though I always heard that the Epic 4G's batteries were slightly longer so I was more worried about the Hyperion Epic Touch version being a slight bit too deep (to fit the same capacity) to work...though I think there is a little extra space in the current Generic battery cover that may allow for what little more depth there *may* be (as you can shake the phone and hear the battery jostle around slightly)
iviyth0s said:
I'm not worried about length or width as the OEM Epic Touch battery (aka the 1800mAh) fits easily into our phones, though I always heard that the Epic 4G's batteries were slightly longer so I was more worried about the Hyperion Epic Touch version being a slight bit too deep (to fit the same capacity) to work...though I think there is a little extra space in the current Generic battery cover that may allow for what little more depth there *may* be (as you can shake the phone and hear the battery jostle around slightly)
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oh nvm! i believe i was referring to the t-mobile version of the epic touch, which is probably a lot different from the sprint one, sorry!! XP
1LastBreathx said:
oh nvm! i believe i was referring to the t-mobile version of the epic touch, which is probably a lot different from the sprint one, sorry!! XP
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Yeah it's weird that sometimes they do that, change some of the phone so that they aren't compatible. Probably the most absent minded business strategy I've ever heard
Just to let you guys know there is actually a set of the 1800 mAh's for our phone and the Epic Touch i got the one for our phone and the 1st charge i got 15-16 HRs and about 3 Hrs of screen on time
I personally use the Yoobao 2800 mAh extended battery from here
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Extended-Battery-Replacement-Cover/dp/B004G7JWT8/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1337876031&sr=1-1 its a little more pricey but im running CM9 AOKP build 35.2 and get about 18 hours out of it, with at least 4-5 hours of usage on the web or talking on the phone. I watched several videos on Youtube with recommendations and thats what made me get one. I dont think I have ever had it die all the way on me during the day, as long as I charge it every day or two I have no problems. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al_po8oanz0 this guy has multiple videos reviewing these batteries and after trying it out versus a generic 3500 mAh, it is much preferred.
charliet1010 said:
I personally use the Yoobao 2800 mAh extended battery from here
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Extended-Battery-Replacement-Cover/dp/B004G7JWT8/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1337876031&sr=1-1 its a little more pricey but im running CM9 AOKP build 35.2 and get about 18 hours out of it, with at least 4-5 hours of usage on the web or talking on the phone. I watched several videos on Youtube with recommendations and thats what made me get one. I dont think I have ever had it die all the way on me during the day, as long as I charge it every day or two I have no problems. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al_po8oanz0 this guy has multiple videos reviewing these batteries and after trying it out versus a generic 3500 mAh, it is much preferred.
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That's okay? but the 3500 mAh Hyperion i can get 4-5 Hours of screen on as well as 18-24 Hours on ICS. Hell on CM7 i got close to 2.5 Days with about 1.5 Hours of screen on time.
Not to mention the 1800 Ankers are slim so it fits without a big back and gets still decent battery life i just got 16 Hours and 3 Hours of screen on time on the 1st charge just opened the battery up and put it in the phone @100% so it hasn't even settled in yet.
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That's okay? but the 3500 mAh Hyperion i can get 4-5 Hours of screen on as well as 18-24 Hours on ICS. Hell on CM7 i got close to 2.5 Days with about 1.5 Hours of screen on time.
Not to mention the 1800 Ankers are slim so it fits without a big back and gets still decent battery life i just got 16 Hours and 3 Hours of screen on time on the 1st charge just opened the battery up and put it in the phone @100% so it hasn't even settled in yet.
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i just got 2 1800 mAh anker batteries today charging them with external chargers atm, will see how good they really are XD
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That's okay? but the 3500 mAh Hyperion i can get 4-5 Hours of screen on as well as 18-24 Hours on ICS. Hell on CM7 i got close to 2.5 Days with about 1.5 Hours of screen on time.
Not to mention the 1800 Ankers are slim so it fits without a big back and gets still decent battery life i just got 16 Hours and 3 Hours of screen on time on the 1st charge just opened the battery up and put it in the phone @100% so it hasn't even settled in yet.
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ICS? do you have a leaked version or a rom or something?
We have Cm9, AOKP, MIUI V4, ect.
Sent from my SPH-D700 CM9 ANDROID 4.0.4

"Gold Business Batteries" for the G2/Desire Z Review

My wife and I have both had t-mobile g2's for almost 2 years now. I had wanted to get addition batteries or replacement higher capacity batteries for a while. There were plenty of cheap batteries on ebay that claimed 1500 or 1600 mAh that would theoretically be an upgrade over a stock battery but it would be a relatively small upgrade and might not even really be an upgrade if they didn't actually live up to their advertised capacity so I had been procrastinating doing anything. Two things changed and I finally stopped procrastinating. First we decided we were going to keep our g2's for about another year. Second I noticed a number of Gold Business Batteries showing up on ebay at a relatively cheap price. They claimed a really high 2450mAh which I figured was not realistic but even if it fell well short of that it should still be a good upgrade. You can find them on ebay with a search for Desire Z gold battery. Can't post a link yet =)
Ordering and shipping was pretty much what you'd expect for cheap ebay purchases from china. The description was poor and communication with the seller was in broken English but I had no major issues. I just selected the cheapest seller at the time and I'm not even sure if that seller is still selling the batteries now. Shipping was predictably slow and packaging was minimal but everything arrived undamaged and is working fine.
The batteries seem to be a little tighter fit than the OEM batteries which seems to be a common complaint about these replacement batteries. I suspect that they would fit better if you removed the "gold" label as it seems to be somewhat stiff and thick for a label but I haven't tried that yet.
No surprise but the batteries don't seem to live up to their claimed capacity. I installed a battery monitor app and ran several full cycles on my battery and it came up with a measured capacity of ~1850mAh. I haven't tried to do the same on my wife's battery but it is enough of an improvement over our original OEM batteries that it is easily noticeable and she has commented on it and prefers the new battery. We got a charger with one of the batteries so she could easily swap batteries rather than charging the battery in the phone but she prefers to charge the gold battery and not swap back to the OEM battery unless she has to. My impression is the same. The new battery definitely lasts longer and was a nice improvement.
I no longer have the battery monitor installed (flashed to a CM9 Mod now) but after a couple months of use I subjectively haven't noticed a large drop in performance for the batteries.
Short review-
Good capacity cheap battery that doesn't require a replacement battery cover and I'd recommend them or by another in the future.
THX for your return man
I agree with OP's assessment. Definitely better than stock. I also notice that they get a lot less HOT than stock battery, which often felt like it would burn a hole in my pants. This battery produces no significant heat. Key word is "significant" since it is obviously impossible to produce NO heat. I suspect that the increased capacity compared to stock is due to much less energy lost as heat.
Just ordered a 2680mah one. Will report back when tested. With any luck it'll come before the weekend as my trip to London will be a good test.
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[Q] Finding a NEW Skyrocket battery

I'm in Canada, with Rogers and have had a 727R for about 18 months. It's time for a new battery mid-contract.
But Rogers doesn't sell them any more. Nor does Best Buy, Future Shop, the Source etc. There are lots of phone vendors around, but I find that they sell them at $20 - $30, and they must be used, because even after a few cycles and battery calibration, they are usually worse than my old battery. I've bought two from different vendors in the Pacific Mall, they were awful.
I've been told that unless Samsung sells it to you, it's a refurbished battery. Don't even know what that might be...how do you refurb a battery?
So with the retailers no longer stocking batteries for non-current phones, where does one get a NEW Skyrocket battery in Canada?
Also looking for a Verizon Samsung Nexus Extended Battery (2200) as per another thread here. They are gone! Nobody has them. I'd love to try one on my Skyrocket, as it's a higher capacity and most say the fit is not an issue, but nobody seems to sell those either. Ebay sellers are out of stock with no idea if they are coming back in.
Is this what it's come to? Do you throw your phone away after 18 months???
I have the Verizon nexus battery and it fits fine. I guess I should hold on to my stock one just in case. Having said that, I've had mine for 14 months and I haven't noticed any degradation in battery life.
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Do you Canadians have Amazon eh?
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hechoen said:
Do you Canadians have Amazon eh?
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We have Amazon, but there are Samsung Nexus Extended Battery (2200) left anywhere, and the cheap $20 batteries all seem to be refurbished, none of them last very long.
How about ebay?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-OEM-Sams..._Cell_Phone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item2ec80ff6f1
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/OEM-SAMSUNG-..._Cell_Phone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item257de3d643
ebay.ca seems to have a lot of listings
stock battery http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3984.m570.l1313.TR9.TRC1&_nkw=i727+battery&_sacat=0&_from=R40
ext. battery http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_odkw..._nkw=Samsung+Nexus+Extended+Battery+&_sacat=0
Almost all of those batteries aren't "refurbished". For refurbishing the battery you need to replace the battery itself, keeping the battery controller chip and battery housing. This is mostly done in laptops.
However, housing is almost non-existent on i727 battery - it consists of 2 plastic covers, lower and upper, with the upper holding the controller chip. All the rest of the space is the battery.
What you get when you buy a battery from eBay will most likely be counterfeit, AKA fake. It's a smaller battery wrapped in plastic housing with a chip. It won't have NFC even if written on it, and it'll hold 1/2 the time of the original battery - and the "SAMSUNG" glued paper on it will be just that - a paper.
I've disassembled one of those, so the info is first hand.

Safety of replacement batteries

I'm looking for a replacement battery for my S4. Since it's replacement it doesn't have to be as good. What scares me though is that those cheap ebay/dealextreme batteries might hurt my phone somehow (those golden batteries etc). Is this possible, or is it safe to use those 'fake' batteries?
Also I would love if you guys could recommend a decent replacement battery for a good price (even better with a wall battery charger).
Check out the thread for registering your device with Samsung. You get a 50% off coupon to their store.
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mnazary said:
Check out the thread for registering your device with Samsung. You get a 50% off coupon to their store.
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda app-developers app
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Sadly I don't think that's possible in my country...
sofar so good
i bought some there (Ebay) was a deal 3 batteries and battery charger for 10 bucks. haven't had any problems yet. going on a week and a half.
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i bought some there (Ebay) was a deal 3 batteries and battery charger for 10 bucks. haven't had any problems yet. going on a week and a half.
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Could you share a link please?
Buy a Zerolemon.
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Buy a Zerolemon.
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I have a problem with the huge ass batteries, I like my phone the way it is, so I'm looking for regular size.
frrlod said:
I have a problem with the huge ass batteries, I like my phone the way it is, so I'm looking for regular size.
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Suit yourself, but I'm going on 19 hours off of a full charge with my Zerolemon and I still have 55% left.
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I have a problem with the huge ass batteries, I like my phone the way it is, so I'm looking for regular size.
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ZeroLemon will be doing a regular sized battery as well which is what i'm waiting for. And ZeroLemon are known for their reliability (and actually being 3000 mAh). I wouldn't trust the ebay ones.
i got one of this to test and it was the perfect replacement battery. So just ordered this from amazon expecting delivery right about now...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CI8L1NC/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
jax5ter said:
i got one of this to test and it was the perfect replacement battery. So just ordered this from amazon expecting delivery right about now...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CI8L1NC/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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After some research I came to a conclusion I want that one too. Can you check if it's just the same size as the original battery? As I've seen some Anker batteries which were good but slightly too large.
frrlod said:
After some research I came to a conclusion I want that one too. Can you check if it's just the same size as the original battery? As I've seen some Anker batteries which were good but slightly too large.
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the one i tested was non nfc, these are nfc enabled but i doubt that would make them that much bigger to bulge, but ill let you know as soon as this UPS man arrives at my office, gotta love amazon prime! :laugh:
I bought the Anker batteries. Get 2 batteries and a wall charger. The wall charger also has a USB port which can output 1A, which it pretty good to carry around if needed. I've read reviews how when these first came out it was a really tight fit, but it seems that they made adjustments because the ones I received fit in just fine, like the OEM ones.
Being that I dont have 10 post I can't post urls this is
Seller name was -valuebuybattery
Title-3X Battery for Samsung Galaxy SIV S4 GT-i9500 with External Charger 3250 mAh
worth it
I almost always buy the cheapo chinese batteries for my phones. Here are my findings:
They will last throughout the day about as long as genuine batteries... for the 1st year
After the 1st year, they will start to degrade.... depending on your use, lack of use, temperature, etc... I have some 2.5 year old chinese epic 4g batteries that still work.. but only last about 4 hours. My original battery will still go a good 12hrs. I only keep them around for emergencies, but I don't really use that phone anymore.
The cheapo chargers that come w/ it is very handy and usually work pretty well.
Depending on how much you use them, they will last you a couple years.
Why i think they are worth it:
For ten bucks, they are a great backup battery. By that I mean, when get home from work and my battery is almost dead.... I can swap out the battery for the rest of the evening and don't have to put my phone on the charger till bed.
I'm a normal smart phone user, a normal batter will last me the day most days. I don't game or do too many intensive things..
I get them because I know that I will get a new phone every 1.5 to 2 years... so why do my batteries need to outlast the phone?
Who shouldn't use them:
People who really drain their batteries. They simply won't go as many recharge cycles as a normal battery (by that I mean full empty to full charge).
Tips:
Mark your crappy batteries with a permanent marker. The chinese clones look so good that you probably can't tell the difference between them and a real on. Mark the fake ones so that you can use your real on days when you know you really need lasting power. This isn't so important the first 9 months... but after that it could be.
Watch for reviews on a good battery seller (if buying from ebay)... there are good cheap-o batteries and their are crappy ones. I like to let other people figure it out

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