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I downloaded dolphin browser HD from the market last night to give it a try. I wanted to see if it would make the browsing even smoother and faster than it already is on frf91, or run flash better or something. I don't notice anything different. I understand that it has a lot of great features like gestures, tabs, add ons that the regular browser doesn't. But as far as just the performance of page loading or scrolling or anything, do you guys see any difference? What do you like about it?
Lol you answered it in your own post.. It's about the extra features it has
Right I was just wondering if people saw a performance increase in certain types of pages or something. Or if anyone was noticing speed increases.
I don't see any improvements whatsoever with speed. For Dolphin, I have a bunch of gestures set up that makes my lift a lot easier by having a shortcut to "select text".
I guess the only other thing that helps is the convenient access to wipe history and cache. You can also set it to private browsing mode so it never remembers history.
I like being able to exit/close the browser
I have noticed a few features that make Dolphin browser great.
First is the UAs (user agent settings) can be set to desktop client always. I hate going to about:debug every single time on the N1 stock browser. The MT3GS has a stock browser with UAs options in the stock settings. Not having that, after already having it in a stock browser is just annoying.
Downloading is much more efficient with Dolphin for me. I have been able to get everything posted on xda through rapidshare and others. If I am about to download something on my computer, I chrome to phone the link, and use dolphin to download it and astro to move it to the root.
Text clarity is much better on Dolphin. This was especially noticeable when reading text sites, like the news.
The flash player is on Demand, which is annoying when your first testing it out, but I have grown to love that feature. Especially when a lot of sites are fattened up with flash advertisements and useless widgets all over the place. News sites are the worst of all. Even when your in an EDGE only zone a news story should load fine, but an animated advertisement loading in the middle of the page will slow you down.
Downside. I can't seem to establish a secure connection when attempting to connect to a website using verisign to verify the secure connection. I don't know if it is the secure connection that isn't working or the verification? I emailed Dolphin, maybe they will tell me.
I use Dolphin primarily, but the great thing about Android is that you can run both of them, or either of them whenever you please. Getting the best of both worlds.
What I like the most is the simple refresh and stop button next to the address bar
I just wish it had a better theme...the theme tries to be too flashy and the additional themes are equally as gaudy...a simple stock browser theme (same tabs and buttons and whatnot but with the stock android theme styling) would be great...oh well.
Just so I know, dolphin browser uses the default webkit browser core, correct? And it just basically is like the default browser with different settings, UI, and "skin" overtop of the default browser.
no one uses xscope?
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no one uses xscope?
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Only for downloading files that Dolphin Browser seems to not want to download...
Skyfire 2.1 has improved alot. Its fast, the multi touch is better than it was with 2.0, and its flash player works much better than before. I use this when browsing casually (not logging in anywhere.) Love to watch worldstarhiphop videos with it cause flash 10.1 performance sucks on that site.
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i use xscope. although i like that dolphin has ability to sync bookmarks
Nope, stopped using Dolphin HD for a couple reasons:
1) It has tabs, which is awesome, but it's a little too complicated to reach them compared to the old dolphin. I liked being able to swipe down to bring down the bar.
2) It's buggy as hell. I've uninstalled and reinstalled it about three times now. Sometimes it doesn't register my clicks, sometimes it brings about the crazy screen problem, and sometimes it just doesn't try to load my pages.
I just wish the stock android browser had tabs implemented.
Xscope has 0 bugs and its fast
The ability for fullscreen mode. That's most important to me as I don't want the notification bar to waste space and to prevent further lcd screen burn in for my N1.
Although that feature is broken in the recent version but a fix is coming.
kolyan said:
Xscope has 0 bugs and its fast
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Fast yes. Zero bugs? No... it doesn't do text reflow on XDA forums properly vs. Dolphin.
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I do. Downloaded X-Scope and Dolphin the same day. There was something Dolphin did that I did not like, but can't remember what it was. But it was often enough it annoyed me. Never had an issue with X-Scope
Love xscope lite. Looks great, great features. many people don't know this but you can set up Flash to run automatically vs. "on demand"
I wasn't sure if all the browser improvements on 2.2 were just for the stock browser but doesn't seem anyone has noticed a difference in speed between stock and alternatives.
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Fast yes. Zero bugs? No... it doesn't do text reflow on XDA forums properly vs. Dolphin.
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Not sure what you mean by text reflow, but I set it to "wide" in one of the settings and it made the xda forums look exactly the same as dolphin/stock browser.
Well i got my android phone a week ago (motorola defy) and ever since i've been finding out some lag and some minor problems with the apps running on it. The slide lock lagged but i installed a new one with widgets and it works just fine. Now i need some advices about other ones.
1. Youtube stock app for android 2.1: When the video loads and i move the bar within the place where the video had been loaded, but guess what, it gets stuck and does the loading again, and not like the windows browser's youtube...Is it suppose to be that way?
2. The keyboard is kind of hard to type with and i've been looking at some keyboard layouts but whenever i installed one, it said that it'll record whatever i'll type so in a way is it dangerous? because when i type my password on internet, does it get sent over to some website or is it totally safe?
3. Also I'm using launcher pro, it works fine but i was wondering if the stock launcher is working in the background as well which can cause lag along with launcher pro?
4.Also my stock browser laggs sometimes when it's zoomed in. So i would need some suggestions about another faster browser?
Thanks for any kind of help and advice
funny, i expected something from you guys as my questions are one of the common questions...or is someone can't be bothered here to help me out? ...
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Well i got my android phone a week ago (motorola defy) and ever since i've been finding out some lag and some minor problems with the apps running on it. The slide lock lagged but i installed a new one with widgets and it works just fine. Now i need some advices about other ones.
1. Youtube stock app for android 2.1: When the video loads and i move the bar within the place where the video had been loaded, but guess what, it gets stuck and does the loading again, and not like the windows browser's youtube...Is it suppose to be that way?
2. The keyboard is kind of hard to type with and i've been looking at some keyboard layouts but whenever i installed one, it said that it'll record whatever i'll type so in a way is it dangerous? because when i type my password on internet, does it get sent over to some website or is it totally safe?
3. Also I'm using launcher pro, it works fine but i was wondering if the stock launcher is working in the background as well which can cause lag along with launcher pro?
4.Also my stock browser laggs sometimes when it's zoomed in. So i would need some suggestions about another faster browser?
Thanks for any kind of help and advice
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1. No idea...
2. Its safe, no worries, slideit is imo the best keyboard. But there are a lot of alternatives.
3. The stock launcher is in sleep I assume, with Home Switcher you can swop. When only 2 or 3 launchers installed your system doesnt lag. Or you can freeze it with titanium backup, not sure if it can do any harm when you freeze your stock launcher.
4. Try miren browser, it is really good.
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thanks alot for your help, really appreciated it.
About the youtube stock app, what i basically mean is that, when a youtube video on computer on any browser...is loaded completely (red color strip). You can freely move the circle thing within the red color stripped which basically mean that that part is loaded can be be watched freely. BUT with my stock youtube application, that's not how it works. If i move the cursor a bit, it just hangs there and then i have to start the video from the beginning, loading and alll that. So i wanted to know if there's a good alternative youtube app with cache? so that once the video is loaded (when connected to internet), you can watch it even if you have no internet connection at that time...
Its been a little while since i started noticing this so i am not sure if its the rom i am on (kinda doubt it) or just an update to chrome, but i used to be able to fling to the bottom or top of a web page with ease in chrome. Now it seems that the "fling" option has been removed or is just not working ????
I am fairly certain that its something that will need to be fixed from google but just incase i am on Axiom S 2.8.1b and fusion kernel.
is this bugging anyone else or am i the only one? I cant take it anymore!!!!
Android 4.4 kills the old webkit android renderer and replaces it with chrome-webview. Unfortunately google didn't update the aosp browser at all in 4.4 so its only partially working. The address bar no longer autohides, it has visual glitches, is missing the history tab, and no longer has text wrapping. Its also significantly laggier than the old native webkit engine. Not only does this change effect the aosp browser, but it also breaks a lot of apps that rely on webview. This wouldn't be a big deal if the performance improved due to the change but it doesn't. It performs much worse than the old webkit engine.
It also is very disappointing to see google ship the kit kat source code with broken components. The fact that chrome still performs this badly a year and a half after coming to android is embarrassing.
Does anyone know of a way to port the old webkit engine to a standalone app, or revert the changes made to integrate chromium-webview?
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Android 4.4 kills the old webkit android renderer and replaces it with chrome-webview. Unfortunately google didn't update the aosp browser at all in 4.4 so its only partially working. The address bar no longer autohides, it has visual glitches, is missing the history tab, and no longer has text wrapping. Its also significantly laggier than the old native webkit engine. Not only does this change effect the aosp browser, but it also breaks a lot of apps that rely on webview. This wouldn't be a big deal if the performance improved due to the change but it doesn't. It performs much worse than the old webkit engine.
It also is very disappointing to see google ship the kit kat source code with broken components. The fact that chrome still performs this badly a year and a half after coming to android is embarrassing.
Does anyone know of a way to port the old webkit engine to a standalone app, or revert the changes made to integrate chromium-webview?
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This is why we need someone to compile 4.3 AOSP Browser with self-contained libwebcore.so + 4.3 webview library to fully get the original AOSP browser experience.
The closest we can get on 4.4 right now is Dolphin Browser + Dolphin Jetpack in terms of responsiveness and smoothness.. but it still has a few bugs, like the jumping pinch-zoom bug. However Dolphin Jetpack only works because it's a 100% in-house browser engine that replaces WebView in Dolphin. If you don't install Jetpack, Dolphin will be using the same buggy Chromium WebView.
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This is why we need someone to compile 4.3 AOSP Browser with self-contained libwebcore.so + 4.3 webview library to fully get the original AOSP browser experience.
The closest we can get on 4.4 right now is Dolphin Browser + Dolphin Jetpack in terms of responsiveness and smoothness.. but it still has a few bugs, like the jumping pinch-zoom bug. However Dolphin Jetpack only works because it's a 100% in-house browser engine that replaces WebView in Dolphin. If you don't install Jetpack, Dolphin will be using the same buggy Chromium WebView.
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Yes, definitely. I was trying to figure out how to do this myself but its a little above my head right now.
I started looking at the source code for the browser. What would be the best way to move the library into the app itself rather than rely on the android frameworks webview.
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I started looking at the source code for the browser. What would be the best way to move the library into the app itself rather than rely on the android frameworks webview.
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I don't know, figured you might know.
Hopefully more people see this and someone that has some idea where to start can help out.
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I started looking at the source code for the browser. What would be the best way to move the library into the app itself rather than rely on the android frameworks webview.
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Would that fix even Currents, Search and all the other apps based on WebView? Wouldn't that fix just the aosp browser?
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Would that fix even Currents, Search and all the other apps based on WebView? Wouldn't that fix just the aosp browser?
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Just the aosp browser. But thats a step in the right direction.
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This is why we need someone to compile 4.3 AOSP Browser with self-contained libwebcore.so + 4.3 webview library to fully get the original AOSP browser experience.
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Someone needs to make this happen... 4.4 is unusable to me in its current state because the browsing experience is so bad. Start a bounty maybe?
i agree with you!
How about to compile a android 4.3 version for nexus 5? or port a Nexus 4 ROM
The browsing experience on 4.4 is horrible and frustrating.. We have phones with quad cores and 2.3 ghz and web browsing is slower and laggier than on 4.3 lol. Good work Google!! Chrome on Android sucks so hard. And the shi%#@ chromium engine. One step forward, two steps back. I moved from 4.4 back to 4.3 BECAUSE of the horrible webview performance. Fix that &#&@ Google! Hopefully they add a fix or something like that. Instagram lags too and Google Now results and so many other apps. It's sad...
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Dolphin Browser + Dolphin Jetpack seems to work wonders on Kitkat. Nearly as good as 4.3 AOSP Browser performance, especially after the pinch zoom bug was fixed.
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Dolphin Browser + Dolphin Jetpack seems to work wonders on Kitkat. Nearly as good as 4.3 AOSP Browser performance, especially after the pinch zoom bug was fixed.
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I don't like Dolphin... Performance still worse than aosp 4.3 browser..
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Dolphin Browser + Dolphin Jetpack seems to work wonders on Kitkat. Nearly as good as 4.3 AOSP Browser performance, especially after the pinch zoom bug was fixed.
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Yes, Dolphin with Jetpack enabled is fast and double tap to zoom wraps text correctly. It's also much more battery friendly then Opera for Android, which wraps the text as well after double tap to zoom, but stutters sometimes horribly. Dolphin is almost always smooth, It's closest to AOSP Browser I found so far working on 4.4. Though Dolphin with Jetpack enabled (required to wrap text) has one major flaw - most of the time it covers xda forum pages with grey semi transparent overlay, in whole, or most part of the page. Sometimes it disappears, sometimes not. Enabling and disabling immersive mode sometimes helps, mostly not. I wrote to them about it. Dolphin devs are supposed to work on it, but so far last two updates of Jetpack did not fix it. Are you experiencing this grey obscuring layer on xda forum threads as well? (It does not happen on list of threads, only within a thread, over the text)
I miss AOSP Browser so much. Star the Issue 62378: KitKat WebView text wrap no longer works to fix webview.
If Google doesn't fix it, and to be honest I don't think they care, I'm realy looking forward to see somebody integrating 4.3 vebview within AOSP Browser so it works stand alone. I'd be willing to pay/donate for it. There are two apps on Play Store pretending to be AOSP Browsers, but they are mere impostors, one force closing on KitKat and the other full of adverts.
I'd be happy to downgrade to 4.3 on my Nexus 5 if that would be possible, just to have AOSP Browser working as it used to.
Nexus is becoming more Google and less Android with every next iteration.
Edit: I added two screen shots showing this grey overlay and without it.
Is anyone looking at integrating webview back into aosp browser under kitkat yet?
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Is anyone looking at integrating webview back into aosp browser under kitkat yet?
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We only can hope..
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I thought there would be millions of people complaining about broken text reflow in AOSP Browser and lack of uploading files through Browser, but mostly I fell like I'm the only one who cares. It's been two months now and Google still pretends there is no problem despite people staring that issue on their developer site every day. I stared it a well so I get few emails a day with people posting their complains about webview.
I file like Google is showing me finger and laughing.
Meanwhile Dolphin integrated their in-house WebKit, Jetpack, to their browser and you don't have to have Jetpack as a second app to Dolphin browser to enable it an text wrapping. With list update they fixed as well this grey semitransparent layer popping up on xda posts when you are logged on ( it was not coming up when I was logged out). So Dolphin is my default browser now.
Please somebody integrate old WebKit to Browser, plizzzz
Not sure if this helps?
The KitKat Chromium WebView doesn't reflow text. If you're concerned about text legibility please see the "NARROW_COLUMNS and SINGLE_COLUMN no longer supported" section in the <url=http://developer.android.com/guide/webapps/migrating.html#Columns>migration guide</url> where the suggested solution is to use text autosizing.
If you really want to bring this effect back then you'd need to do something like this:
1. Put all of your content in a <i><div id="contentRoot"> </div></i>
2. Implement onScaleChanged
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class MyWebViewClient extends WebViewClient {
boolean scaleChangedRunnablePending = false;
// Other code here
@Override
void onScaleChanged(final WebView webView, fload oldScale, float newScale) {
if (scaleChangedRunnablePending) return;
view.postDelayed(new Runnable() {
@Override
public void run() {
webView.evaluateJavaScript("recalculateWidth();", null);
scaleChangedRunnablePending = false;
}
}, 100);
}
}
// Don't forget to webView.setWebViewClient(new MyWebViewClient());
3. Use the following JavaScript
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function recalculateWidth() {
$("#contentRoot").width(window.innerWidth);
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or, alternatively you could try modifying the viewport meta tag.
The above should perform the reflow with a slight delay (which is there to keep the number of unnecessary re-layouts down to a minimum).
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Natakranta said:
I thought there would be millions of people complaining about broken text reflow in AOSP Browser and lack of uploading files through Browser, but mostly I fell like I'm the only one who cares. It's been two months now and Google still pretends there is no problem despite people staring that issue on their developer site every day. I stared it a well so I get few emails a day with people posting their complains about webview.
I file like Google is showing me finger and laughing.
Meanwhile Dolphin integrated their in-house WebKit, Jetpack, to their browser and you don't have to have Jetpack as a second app to Dolphin browser to enable it an text wrapping. With list update they fixed as well this grey semitransparent layer popping up on xda posts when you are logged on ( it was not coming up when I was logged out). So Dolphin is my default browser now.
Please somebody integrate old WebKit to Browser, plizzzz
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Sadly, nobody appears to care about text reflow. AFAIK at the moment only two browsers support it: Opera and Dolphin Jetpack. Although I'm not sure how are you supposed to browse non-mobile websites without it pleasantly.
Obvious, this is method that needs to be integrated into website
This seems THE thing!
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/56054/
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I'm so disappointed by chrome , I've been using it for quite a while ,it was unusable on my galaxy nexus ,then it got almost OK on the nexus 4 and now I have my nexus 5 and the performance is still poor , the scrolling is not smooth , its choppy ,sometimes the websites stop responding , the app feels ... Heavy
Ive been using Firefox for a few months and although the scrolling is noticeably better than chrome's it still has its issues , sometimes the text looks blurry and until it fixes itself you can't click on links on the browser , I attached a picture so you guys can see , pay attention to the "next page"button (on the bottom with the rest background ) ,it became unclickable , Firefox crashes sometimes too .
To make things even worse the aosp browser which performance was light years ahead of Chrome's now shares Chrome's poor performance because Google made some changes and now it uses the chromium engine
I don't know what to do ,I become so upset when I use the browser on iOS /windows phone , I love kit Kat but seriously Google make chrome on android just as good as chrome on desktop :banghead:
You tried chrome beta, it's actually a lot better
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You tried chrome beta, it's actually a lot better
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I didn't notice a big difference vs the regular chrome ,all I knew is that it had more features and with the features side I'm really satisfied ,I'm upset is with the poor scrolling performance and the lack of smoothness :'(
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I'm giving chrome beta a chance , maybe it's placebo effect but I feel it is a bit more responsive than the stable version , something I don't understand is why does the browser refreshes every time I switch to another app and then come back to the browser , it doesn't even remember my scrolling position ,very annoying , I don't understand 2 GB should be enough to keep the browser in memory :/
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Use Next browser, been using it since I got the Nexus, works really well and the start screen looks really professional, you can open it up and google search something straight away, really handy
Try Dolphin
I have tried various browsers including Chrome, Opera, Opera Mini, and Maxthon, but settled on Dolphin on my One S and, now that they've fixed some KitKat bugs, on the Nexus 5.
Dolphin is fast and smooth (ver. 10.2.1) although the UI is a bit awkward. Not as bad as Chrome's though. Unfortunately Dolphin doesn't even have a way to import bookmarks from other Dolphins on the same device. Nevertheless, it does seem very good, and much better than Chrome.
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I'm giving chrome beta a chance , maybe it's placebo effect but I feel it is a bit more responsive than the stable version , something I don't understand is why does the browser refreshes every time I switch to another app and then come back to the browser , it doesn't even remember my scrolling position ,very annoying , I don't understand 2 GB should be enough to keep the browser in memory :/
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Mine doesn't do this - mine doesn't auto refresh or lose it's place. Have you installed a custom ROM or kernel on your Nexus 5 or running stock? Is Chome up-to-date? (an annoyingly stupid question but has to be asked)
Try Boat browser. You won't be dissapointed.
You might like Mercury.
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no need to use chrome anymore, theres 'boat' loads of browsers! pardon the pun! waiting for a ported AOSP browser for n5
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Mine doesn't do this - mine doesn't auto refresh or lose it's place. Have you installed a custom ROM or kernel on your Nexus 5 or running stock? Is Chome up-to-date? (an annoyingly stupid question but has to be asked)
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I have stock rooted 4.4 on my nexus 5 , I'm using chrome beta right now but I'm quote sure it was the same with the stable chrome and yes , they're updated , I update my apps like a freak
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Use Next browser, been using it since I got the Nexus, works really well and the start screen looks really professional, you can open it up and google search something straight away, really handy
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I tried, i like it haha but damn the UI it's a complete ripoff from IOS' safari, i didn't see a big difference regarding scrolling performance (vs Chrome) but at least it never froze like Chrome does
UPDATE: I take it all back; I accepted an update for Jetpack and now none of the Dolphin browsers I have--Dolphin, Dolphin Beta, Jetpack--will play html or flash videos. I am trying UC Browser which is really fast, even compared to Dolphin, but doesn't seem to respond automatically to links from other apps--e.g., google's gmail app or the google search app that came on the N5; you have to copy and paste the url manually into the browser. Obviously unacceptable.
The stock browser.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.android.browser
It's extremely smooth just like the stock s4 browser
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The stock browser.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.android.browser
It's extremely smooth just like the stock s4 browser
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1000 times this ^^
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I tried, i like it haha but damn the UI it's a complete ripoff from IOS' safari, i didn't see a big difference regarding scrolling performance (vs Chrome) but at least it never froze like Chrome does
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Puffin browser is next on your list to try.
Other option, UC Browser. to me they both are some of the fastest.
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The stock browser.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.android.browser
It's extremely smooth just like the stock s4 browser
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Forgot to mention that native flash is also supported.
Just grab a apk from adobe
Have you checked out opera beta? If you haven't but decide to, make sure you visit opera:flags There are some options that can improve the experience.
koeASOP 4.4.2 w/ Franco kernel
Anything, but chrome.
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If you're going to use the stock browser I suggested extracting apk from a Cyanogenmod ROM and installing it in your rom. All its option works including Private browsing. It works perfectly well compared to the one you download from play store.