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I originally purchased my G-Tablet as something to hold me off until the Honeycomb tablets came around. After looking at the alternatives there's really not much to "upgrade" to.
Asus Transformer - the most viable option however no USB (blah, use my G-Tab hooked up to my TV at times so I need a USB port for my wireless keyboard/mouse) and I'm not interested in spending an additional $150 just to have a USB port. Sure the screen is nice but I really haven't had any complaints with the G-Tablet screen under normal use.
Acer Iconia A500 - another good tablet however it's twice the price I paid ($225) for my G-Tablet. It's heavier, physically bigger, and overall battery life is not as good as the G-Tablet. The wifi (according to reports) is also fairly weak which sucks as my router is not in the most convenient location.
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 - I had high hopes for this one and although a very sexy tablet, I've now crossed it off my list as an upgrade option. It's been confirmed to have a Tegra 2, no USB, no HDMI, and no microSD card slot.
After going through all the alternatives it seems the only thing these really offer over what I currently have is Honeycomb and with the recent developments concerning Honeycomb on the G-Tablet, the G-Tablet itself may very well have Honeycomb too. To tell you the truth though, I wouldn't be to bummed out if we never get it. Which brings another high point in regards to the G-Tablet: the developer support! I'm certain the other tablets will eventually catch up but the developer support is amazing for the G-Tablet and I've had a ton of fun just trying out new ROMs! Anyway, I believe the G-Tablet is the best Android tablet for the money right now and looks like I'll be keeping it for a while!
Pretty much agreed. It'll be a different story a few months from now, but for the time being the gTab is still the best price/performance combo out there!
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but for the time being the gTab is still the best price/performance combo out there!
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Enectic said:
Asus Transformer - the most viable option however no USB (blah, use my G-Tab hooked up to my TV at times so I need a USB port for my wireless keyboard/mouse) and I'm not interested in spending an additional $150 just to have a USB port. Sure the screen is nice but I really haven't had any complaints with the G-Tablet screen under normal use.
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They're supposed to be releasing an adapter that plugs into the dock port giving you a usb port.....also, you can use the included dock cable and attach a female to female connector and it gives you a functional usb port. Or just pony up for a bluetooth keyboard/mouse. Havent picked up my gtab since I got the transformer.
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They're supposed to be releasing an adapter that plugs into the dock port giving you a usb port.....also, you can use the included dock cable and attach a female to female connector and it gives you a functional usb port. Or just pony up for a bluetooth keyboard/mouse. Havent picked up my gtab since I got the transformer.
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True but there's no release date or price on the adapter yet. As far as using the dock and a female to female it seems to be very hit or miss. People appear to get very few things working with that method which doesn't bode well for the flash drives and HD's I also connect to my tablet. I could buy a bluetooth but that would just add more cost to the item. With all things being said I think I'll save my money for the Tegra 3 tablets supposedely coming later this year.
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Enectic said:
I originally purchased my G-Tablet as something to hold me off until the Honeycomb tablets came around. After looking at the alternatives there's really not much to "upgrade" to.
Asus Transformer - the most viable option however no USB (blah, use my G-Tab hooked up to my TV at times so I need a USB port for my wireless keyboard/mouse) and I'm not interested in spending an additional $150 just to have a USB port. Sure the screen is nice but I really haven't had any complaints with the G-Tablet screen under normal use.
Acer Iconia A500 - another good tablet however it's twice the price I paid ($225) for my G-Tablet. It's heavier, physically bigger, and overall battery life is not as good as the G-Tablet. The wifi (according to reports) is also fairly weak which sucks as my router is not in the most convenient location.
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 - I had high hopes for this one and although a very sexy tablet, I've now crossed it off my list as an upgrade option. It's been confirmed to have a Tegra 2, no USB, no HDMI, and no microSD card slot.
After going through all the alternatives it seems the only thing these really offer over what I currently have is Honeycomb and with the recent developments concerning Honeycomb on the G-Tablet, the G-Tablet itself may very well have Honeycomb too. To tell you the truth though, I wouldn't be to bummed out if we never get it. Which brings another high point in regards to the G-Tablet: the developer support! I'm certain the other tablets will eventually catch up but the developer support is amazing for the G-Tablet and I've had a ton of fun just trying out new ROMs! Anyway, I believe the G-Tablet is the best Android tablet for the money right now and looks like I'll be keeping it for a while!
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$225??? you better keep it haha. That's a great price. I think this is the only time that patience will actually payoff for me and for all of us.
Ditto. I bought my gTab very early on (mid November), thinking it would tide me over until Spring and Honeycomb. Now I plan to keep it through its one-year anniversary, and wait for an ICS tablet. If it lets me.
I'm also now going to hold onto my Nexus One (14 months old) until the Nexus 3 comes out with ICS. Just see no reason to get rid of The Greatest Phone Evah before that new toy arrives.
So, thanks, Google, you're saving me a nice chunk of change over the next few months!
First post on the fora here, excited to get hacking (err cracking?) on making my G-Tablet everything I want it to be!
You got an incredible deal on your tablet, $225... of course you need not me to tell you that. I got mine for $270, and that was a pretty great deal.
I was already fairly sure about purchasing my G-Tab before, and the more and more I'm looking at the alternatives the more sure I am of the purchase.
Another aspect I like is the inexpensiveness of the accessories. For $38 you can get the Malata Zpad Dock that attaches to the proprietary port and acts like an upright stand holding the tablet in portrait mode. It has a USB port, an HDMI out port, and, quite unique for a tablet, an ethernet port. This is the feature that clinched it for me, as there will be times when I will wish to access a wired network with no wifi connection available. In addition, I'll use the HDMI port to output Power Point presentations to a projector.
And then there's also the $28 kick stand and keyboard combo that makes the tablet feel like a netbook. Granted, the case which holds it all together can't really be used as a protective case because the clips hold the device in too poorly, and it's not nearly as nifty as the Asus Transformer's plug-in keyboard and touchpad combo. Also it doesn't offer an extra battery, of course. However, it's a heck of a lot cheaper, and at least you don't need it for USB ports (how odd is it that the Transformer has an on-board mini HDMI port but not an on-board USB port?).
I'm really excited to hear that an internal GPS chip is supported by both the firmware and the hardware, though I'm a bit miffed that I have to buy and install it myself rather than just using the capability right out of the box. Still, that's another purpose the G-Tablet will fill for which I do need a device.
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I'd like to hear some real answers especially from people have had the chance to play with or own all 3 of these tablets. I did god knows how much research but really the only thing that I need right now is someone who has first hand experience to tell me cause what's what. The tech review sites usually review things that don't turn out to be true. Also ownership and time allows for different conclusions.
So far, I did a LOT of research on each tablet, god knows how many youtube videos i watched. What I took from the 3 are:
Xoom has great development and community on the edge of their seat, ready to jump up at any moment when HC source or ICS is released so it can start developing. I see it as the Android G1 phone. Great support, no doubt that all the ports and stuff will work (micro SD, hdmi and usb host) when rooted. BUT, it has a pretty bad screen from what I hear? I dont know if its an exaggeration but its no transformer or galaxy 10.1 in terms of display. Seem to be the "Fastest" or most capable in terms of hardware.
Transformer is the bridge between galaxy and xoom, both in the size and functionality since it also has micro sd, hdmi that galaxy lacks out of the box. The transformer needs an adapter for USB and currently the USB host and adapter is not out. But just like any android tablet, once source is released, the potentials are pretty much there to use usb host and anything else.
CONS: Problems. I'm very concerned about audio quality so can someone fill me in on that?? How are the speakers?? How do they compare to the galaxy or xoom or toshiba thrive? How is audio output in general to external speakers? (the toshiba thrive's output to external was TERRIBLE. headphone volume was bad). I'm also worried that if i get a bad transformer I'm going to have to wait weeks for asus to keep repairing stuff. Also, how is the battery life? I know the galaxy and xoom are the top 2 android battery life contenders, second to the ipad 2.
Galaxy tab 101. - Stripped and slender form of the transformer. No expandability. Adapter allows for usb or microSD but you can't expand past the 16gb/32gb with a microSD. Not a deal breaker but the other two allow it. Great display and sound.
I was hesitating between the galaxy and transformer.
For me the problem was 3G or USB.
I decided for the transformer and tlil now no regrets. I've even got 3G working on it (with a 3G USB stick)
The Transformer has USB, mine has 2x USB ports.
Also if you are outside the US, forget out the Xoom, the support is abysmal, I think they only just got Honeycomb 3.1, when the US has had it for months, and the Transformer is already on Honeycomb 3.2
As for the Galaxy Tab, overpriced IMHO, you can get so much more with the Transformer.
I looked at all 3, and the Transformer (with dock) was easily the winner.
Don't get the Xoom, it's a waste. If you need a tablet with 4G, then just get the Galaxy tab.
But the choice really depends on what you'll need it for. Do you think you'll need a keyboard dock? Then get the Transformer. The Galaxy Tab has a keyboard dock, but it's wireless and wouldn't be something you can use on the go. (subway, bus, etc.) The Transformer, overall, is a nice device. It has its problems, like the speakers aren't that loud, but you can kind of fix that with some tweaks. You can't beat the price either. $399 for one of the best Android tablets on the market.
If they think you'll be using it for media, the SG Tab maybe what your looking for. Also if you want something a little more portable, you may want to look at the Galaxy Tab 7.7. It's coming out soon and has higher specs than both the TF and 10.1. I'd suggest looking out for the Transformer 2 but there hasn't been much info on it.
I still wonder how it is possible that business devices like the Note 8.0 do not get a range of "pro" accessories from the get go, if anyway...
Does anyone know of some device specific docking station by Samsung or some OEM? Perhaps something has been anounced?
Thank You very much in advance!
Regards, Yoko
I don't know of any device specific, true docking stations, but the following are several types of stands that I've been considering:
http://www.amazon.com/Arkon-Portable-Fold-Up-Playbook-IPM-TAB1/dp/B000CKVOOY/ and http://www.amazon.com/IPAD-ST-Universal-Tablet-Stand-Kindle/dp/B0045JNBNU/
http://www.amazon.com/KB-Covers-Stand-iPad-Black/dp/B003VFALEQ/
http://www.radtech.us/products/bluelounge-nest-ipad-tablet-stand
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-A-Frame-Tabletop-Samsung-Tablets/dp/B003GAJ67Y/
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Tablets-Readers-including-Samsung/dp/B0064EL2DK/
Thank You for the links, but at least for me one, if not the only reason to get a docking station would be hassle free charging and maybe syncing via USB or MHL linking to a TV, but mainly charging.
Generic devices still force You to plug the tablet in at the right position / angle.
Perhaps it´s only bugging me, but I can not wrap my head around the fact, that any 20$ cordless phone for home use has a charging station and for high end smartphones and "hybrids" like the Note 8 we still have to fiddle around with micro usb cables & plugs until some chinese factory manufactures the first halfway fitting, cheap looking dock six moths after the device is widely available (/rant over)
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Thank You for the links, but at least for me one, if not the only reason to get a docking station would be hassle free charging and maybe syncing via USB or MHL linking to a TV, but mainly charging.
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I understand; that makes sense.
And I hear you regarding the lack of sophisticated docking stations. I wonder if part of the problem is that people are so mobile these days (and thus you're not going to take your docking station with you, most likely) and also quick to upgrade to new devices (in which case your old docking station may no longer have a use)? And if the combination of those two makes for less demand, or at least not enough perceived demand by manufactures to invest in developing the tech?
But I agree with you that it would be very cool to have a docking station that does what you describe.
Samsung's Smart Dock Multimedia Hub (#EDD-S20JWE) for the Note II & S4 "Should" work with the Note 8.0, but I don't know how stable it would be in this dock since it is made for the smaller devices.
I have this dock for my Note II and it works well. As soon as I receive my Int'l Note 8.0 3G (~May 8-11) I will test it and report back.
I'm thinking the following post relates to what @bbfoto is talking about, correct?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2244383
^Yes.
I just posted there as well. Thanks!
Thanks a lot for the input guys!
The Samsung Smart dock looks to be the closest to what I have in mind, though as pointed out in the linked thread it does not support the tablet in any considerable way.
I was looking for something more like the Nexus 7 docking station, unfortunately I can not link to images, beeing a newbie and all...
Well, who knows, perhaps sometime in the near future some company will think of (business) users, who simply want to throw their tablet on a perfectly fitting dock while at their desk.
Thanks again folks!
Regards, Yoko
itrek
Bought the itrek from amazon ill post more when it arrives.
I have put the Note 8.0 into the Samsung Smart Dock for the Note II. It works really well and holds things steady.
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I have put the Note 8.0 into the Samsung Smart Dock for the Note II. It works really well and holds things steady.
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are you able to use the device while on the stand without it falling over?
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are you able to use the device while on the stand without it falling over?
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Yes. It works great. I threw it in at work and plugged in a USB keyboard and mouse and worked with it that way. It's a really nice unit. Just too expensive.
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I have put the Note 8.0 into the Samsung Smart Dock for the Note II. It works really well and holds things steady.
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Do you know if the Note 8.0 will fit in the Smart Dock with a Samsung Book Cover Case on it?
Yes it does
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It also fits with the poetic case!
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Does it work when you put it on its side? ( Landscape Mode)
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that's an universal dock
not special
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Yes. It works great. I threw it in at work and plugged in a USB keyboard and mouse and worked with it that way. It's a really nice unit. Just too expensive.
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Is the HDMI output the same resolution as the tablet or can it out put at higher res? Id be interested in it if it was higher res as it would make andriod office suites a viable option for me. At the moment I find the resolution hinders its use, especially with spreadsheets (which is what I use the most). From what I can gather it just mirrors the tablets resolution.
I might get one anyway as i like the idea of being able to plug in my PS3 controller via USB and play on some emulators. I find emulator a pain to use with touch controls.
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Is the HDMI output the same resolution as the tablet or can it out put at higher res? Id be interested in it if it was higher res as it would make andriod office suites a viable option for me. At the moment I find the resolution hinders its use, especially with spreadsheets (which is what I use the most). From what I can gather it just mirrors the tablets resolution.
I might get one anyway as i like the idea of being able to plug in my PS3 controller via USB and play on some emulators. I find emulator a pain to use with touch controls.
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It would be same resolution, just scaled. For example my MHL kit gives 1080p, my miracast kit gives 720p. Same amount of content on screen. Ditto if I use an adapter that only does VGA output.
You can't change that metric.
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I'm thinking about buying a windows 8 tablet, but I'm having trouble deciding which one to get. There are a couple of options that I'm considering:
The Asus T100- The main reason I am considering this tablet is the included dock+keyboard and the fact that it has a full site USB port, which I would like for my FreedomPop USB dongle and my xbox controller wireless receiver. The screen is mediocre and the build quality is shoddy by several accounts. The processor is not the top of the line 3770, but the lower specced 3740.
The HP Omni 10: This is what I wish the Asus tablet was. This has a full HD 1920x1200 screen, compared to the t100s 1378x700 screen resolution. It also includes the best bay trail processor available, which is considerably faster than the t100. It also has a micro-hdmi port, which I would like for displaying movies in my college dorm tv. The only thing missing is that full size USB port. It has a micro USB port, but I don't know if a micro-USB to USB converter would be able to support things like the FreedomPop dongle, the xbox wireless adapter, and maybe an external hard drive. If it does support it, my problems are solved. If not, what are your suggestions? Do you know if those accessories can run under a micro-USB to USB adapter?
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I'm thinking about buying a windows 8 tablet, but I'm having trouble deciding which one to get. There are a couple of options that I'm considering:
The Asus T100- The main reason I am considering this tablet is the included dock+keyboard and the fact that it has a full site USB port, which I would like for my FreedomPop USB dongle and my xbox controller wireless receiver. The screen is mediocre and the build quality is shoddy by several accounts. The processor is not the top of the line 3770, but the lower specced 3740.
The HP Omni 10: This is what I wish the Asus tablet was. This has a full HD 1920x1200 screen, compared to the t100s 1378x700 screen resolution. It also includes the best bay trail processor available, which is considerably faster than the t100. It also has a micro-hdmi port, which I would like for displaying movies in my college dorm tv. The only thing missing is that full size USB port. It has a micro USB port, but I don't know if a micro-USB to USB converter would be able to support things like the FreedomPop dongle, the xbox wireless adapter, and maybe an external hard drive. If it does support it, my problems are solved. If not, what are your suggestions? Do you know if those accessories can run under a micro-USB to USB adapter?
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What do you plan on using this tablet for?
Well, I have the Dell Lat10 with win8 pro. I got it back in the spring. It works fairly well, but I don't really use it often. I would suggest you make sure that no matter which you get, you might want to spring the extra for the full Windows 8, not RT. I know a bunch of people who got the RT and realized they couldn't do anything they wanted to do and were limited to the Windows Store for options.
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What do you plan on using this tablet for?
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Basically, I want to lug it around in my backpack around college for taking notes, recreational purposes in the dorm, like watching movies, plugging it into the big screen, some light gaming with the xbox controller. I would also appreciate the better screen and more powerful processor. And I figured out the USB otg cable does work on the omni, so the obvious choice is the omni. Now I just need a good tablet holder so I can type using an external keyboard.
And by the way, to that other dude, don't answer just to answer haha. None of these tablets have windows RT; they both have full windows 8, the omni is $50 more expensive than the t100 at $400., they both sport a micro SD card reader and a micro USB, the omni has a micro hdmi port, the t100 has a full size USB port. The t100 has a keyboard dock included in the cost, while the omni has a full HD 1920x1200 screen compared to the 1378x780 screen. The omni also has a decently faster processor than the t100. So the omni for me is the clear choice.
Anyway, about that tablet holder: I just need something that will be able to stand on a lecture hall flimsy desk. Any suggestions?
I would look into the Dell venue pro 11.
Replaceable battery
Stylus with ntrig
Accessories available
Matches hp omni specs closely
Taking class notes on a tablet is rough without a stylus and palm rejection. You might want an ultrabook or hp split. Anytime you want to draw, write a formula, or place a device on uneven or small area input gets hairy.
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Basically, I want to lug it around in
my backpack around college for taking notes, recreational purposes in the dorm, like watching movies, plugging it into the big screen, some light gaming with the xbox controller. I would also appreciate the better screen and more powerful processor. And I figured out the USB otg cable does work on the omni, so the obvious choice is the omni. Now I just need a good tablet holder so I can type using an external keyboard.
And by the way, to that other dude, don't answer just to answer haha. None of these tablets have windows RT; they both have full windows 8, the omni is $50 more expensive than the t100 at $400., they both sport a micro SD card reader and a micro USB, the omni has a micro hdmi port, the t100 has a full size USB port. The t100 has a keyboard dock included in the cost, while the omni has a full HD 1920x1200 screen compared to the 1378x780 screen. The omni also has a decently faster processor than the t100. So the omni for me is the clear choice.
Anyway, about that tablet holder: I just need something that will be able to stand on a lecture hall flimsy desk. Any suggestions?
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Basically, I want to lug it around in my backpack around college for taking notes, recreational purposes in the dorm, like watching movies, plugging it into the big screen, some light gaming with the xbox controller. I would also appreciate the better screen and more powerful processor. And I figured out the USB otg cable does work on the omni, so the obvious choice is the omni. Now I just need a good tablet holder so I can type using an external keyboard.
And by the way, to that other dude, don't answer just to answer haha. None of these tablets have windows RT; they both have full windows 8, the omni is $50 more expensive than the t100 at $400., they both sport a micro SD card reader and a micro USB, the omni has a micro hdmi port, the t100 has a full size USB port. The t100 has a keyboard dock included in the cost, while the omni has a full HD 1920x1200 screen compared to the 1378x780 screen. The omni also has a decently faster processor than the t100. So the omni for me is the clear choice.
Anyway, about that tablet holder: I just need something that will be able to stand on a lecture hall flimsy desk. Any suggestions?
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The omni seems like a pretty good tablet. I'd say wait until Black Friday and Cyber Monday to see if there are any good deals on more high end tablets, maybe you can find a deal on a Surface Pro.
HP Omni 10 otg?
I would also like to know if the HP Omni 10 has OTG-usb support and 3G dongle support, via an otg cable.
I found in internet the specifications and says: MicroUSB2.0 typeAB connector (Support Host Mode Only)
Does anybody knows if this means it may supports OTG via otg cable?
The Omni 10 has much better screen because is Gorilla 3, anti-glare and anti-smudge. I would like it had a keyboard included, but I hope a usb-keyboard can be connected.
Another interesting win 8.1 tablet is the Lenovo miix 2: 8''. According to internet comments it seems it supports otg.
Can anyone confirm the hp omni 10 has microusb that support otg?
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Can anyone confirm the hp omni 10 has microusb that support otg?
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Really late, but I can confirm It supports OTG
I was just thinking that when I finally trade up my Pixel 3, my trade in won't be worth enough to let go of a good phone. Would it be possible to flash a custom GoogleTV rom onto an old phone that out-specs the CCwGTV, and use a powered ucbc-hdmi adapter or usbc hub? Faster processor, more ram, far more storage. I imagine you could even use a harmony hub or ccwgtv remote.
I searched but couldn't find anything on this. Am I missing something?
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I was just thinking that when I finally trade up my Pixel 3, my trade in won't be worth enough to let go of a good phone. Would it be possible to flash a custom GoogleTV rom onto an old phone that out-specs the CCwGTV, and use a powered ucbc-hdmi adapter or usbc hub? Faster processor, more ram, far more storage. I imagine you could even use a harmony hub or ccwgtv remote.
I searched but couldn't find anything on this. Am I missing something?
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Yes you’re missing a whole lot… the biggest is the ROM, you can’t just install any GTV ROM, it has to be made specifically for your device, I haven’t seen anyone make any GTV ROMs for any phones let alone for a Pixel 3..
The reason for the is prolly cuz they don’t connect to TV’s quite as easily as you described.. Theres no hardware inside of them that enables video out, you’ll need an external video card or “Display Link” adapter that transcodes video from the phone onto a display like a TV. This adapter nearly costs as much as a Chromecast, yet you’re limited to just 1080p..
Guess there ain’t anyone foolish enough to waste their time building a ROM to be limited to those
restrictions..
Good idea though