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[Q] TweakStock TitaniumBackup not restoring data?

So I just installed TweakStock and I would comment on how awesome it is but I'm more concerned about the fact that Titanium won't restore the data for my Go SMS Pro/PowerAmp(so i lost all my texts and my music playlists). The weird thing is, it restored data for most apps but theres a select few that just wont restore. It's become very problematic and I'm hoping it's not just me.

I'm not familiar with Go SMS Pro, but if it's like ChompSMS and some other replacement apps, it still uses the phone's built in SMS database, and not its own. If so, SMS data is not backed up with app data. Chomp has a backup function of its own. Go may have something similar.

shrike1978 said:
I'm not familiar with Go SMS Pro, but if it's like ChompSMS and some other replacement apps, it still uses the phone's built in SMS database, and not its own. If so, SMS data is not backed up with app data. Chomp has a backup function of its own. Go may have something similar.
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Still isnt explaining why PowerAmp wasnt backed up :/

Did you back up all before flashing?
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Yeh, I chose the option to back up all apps with modified data. If you check the date the last backup was made it says 12/25/11 so I'm sure everything was backed up correctly but it just doesn't want to restore the data :[

Try flashing a different rom and seeing if it does the same thing. If it does, it just didn't back up your data.
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ill try that...

So I tried flashing TweakStock in Odin this time(originally did it with CWM, coming from Infinity) and it didnt work, my messages/playlists still wouldnt restore... So I flashed back to the original ROM i was on, EXT4 non-TSM Infinity and alas, to no avail. I tried 3 different versions of Titanium Backup, all 3 with and without Pro just to be sure(there were problems with Pro on Infinity), i tried restoring it manually and i tried batch restoring and of course i can't get my messages back. That's the biggest loss, I had thousands of text messages that are apparently gone forever. Makes me want to throw this phone at a wall :/ oh well

blarrick said:
So I tried flashing TweakStock in Odin this time(originally did it with CWM, coming from Infinity) and it didnt work, my messages/playlists still wouldnt restore... So I flashed back to the original ROM i was on, EXT4 non-TSM Infinity and alas, to no avail. I tried 3 different versions of Titanium Backup, all 3 with and without Pro just to be sure(there were problems with Pro on Infinity), i tried restoring it manually and i tried batch restoring and of course i can't get my messages back. That's the biggest loss, I had thousands of text messages that are apparently gone forever. Makes me want to throw this phone at a wall :/ oh well
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Did you make a CWM backup before you flashed Tweakstock? I suspect it may be too late for the text messages. You may want to try to install Go SMS on a blank ROM, send some texts, manually create a backup with Titanium, flash a blank ROM, and try to manually restore the backup to see if it is even possible using Titanium. My standard procedure to to create a backup in CWM before change ROMs. I use version 4.0.1.4. I know there are several apps that can back up texts. I suggest trying to use one to see if it is capable of backing up texts from Go SMS if you find that Titanium is not capable of backing up the texts.

Sorry to hear about the restore issues. There have been one or two instances reported where titanium backup didnt play nice when restoring certain apps data. At this point it seems as if it's a TiBu issue - I've even had problems with restoring app data on stock ep4d. If there is app data I'm interested in keeping, I've found more success with doing a CWM backup prior to flashing and then using the advanced restore > data feature.

I have Titanium Backup pro and am unable to restore apps. It scrolls across but does not actually install any of my apps. I have had the issue across 2 different Charges and 3 different roms.
Not sure what causes it, but the only way I have been able to resolve is by going back to the old manual install option that makes you confirm each APK before installing.

SuperFan86 said:
I have Titanium Backup pro and am unable to restore apps. It scrolls across but does not actually install any of my apps. I have had the issue across 2 different Charges and 3 different roms.
Not sure what causes it, but the only way I have been able to resolve is by going back to the old manual install option that makes you confirm each APK before installing.
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This ^^
When I first switched from froyo to gingerbread (I think I didn't switch until EP3H) thats what I had to do. The batch restore would sort of work on some apps, but it would often freeze up while doing so and require a restart to the process. I have become lazy since then and tend to cwm advanced restore data, especially if Im switching around on things using the same base build.

since when does TB back up text messages? I have never seen it

For whats it's worth I had no problems restoring all data with tweakstock and tb.

I've had no problems either. I had issues with EP3, and I had issues with Infinity, but not with stock EP4 or TweakStock

chiahead52 said:
since when does TB back up text messages? I have never seen it
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Not with the stock messaging app. It MAY back up if you use a 3rd party app if messages are saved as app data.
I had this problem several times (TiBu just breezing through the restore without actually restoring). Usually, I updated SU, then restarted my phone, then trying again. Maybe you could try flashing imoseyon's kernel, installing better busybox (Terminal -> su -> install_bb), etc and trying again. I always get it to work eventually.
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I don't use a 3rd party sms/mms and I always get mine back. I make sure to backup and restore [SMS/MMS/APN] Dialer Storage and [SMS/MMS PREFS]Messaging.

emtee_skull said:
I don't use a 3rd party sms/mms and I always get mine back. I make sure to backup and restore [SMS/MMS/APN] Dialer Storage and [SMS/MMS PREFS]Messaging.
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I back up the Dialer Storage every time, and that takes care of my messages (both text and MMS). I haven't backed up (or noticed, for that matter) the Messaging item. I'll try backing that up as well and see what else it gets me.
One other thing I have used is a program called SMS Backup & Restore (from the market). This worked well, although it can't back up your MMS messages. If you're the kind that likes to see your call history as well, they also have a sister program that will back up your entire call log.
I would still prefer to have Titanium back up my messages, not just because of the added MMS backups, but because the backup and restore become part of your batch process.

[Q] One contact's message thread won't open. Stock message app

Ever since the ICS upgrade, one contact's message thread refuses to open and is stuck on "O Loading" with that little circle revolving.
I downloaded go sms pro before and I was able to access his thread through that and the message count wasn't over the maximum limit per contact. I've since gone back to the stock app as he's out of the country and it's faster than go sms pro but he recently txted me and caused the problem to occur with other contacts (though a reset of the phone solves their issue)
Does anyone have a solution and failing that, advice? I should say right now that deleting his message thread is the last resort.

and HTC sensation
Android 4.0.3
Software 3.32.401.5

You could try to backup your messages (you can find some apps for that in the market), then delete all your contacts, and afterwards restore them again~
Though no idea if it will work :/

burningwipf said:
You could try to backup your messages (you can find some apps for that in the market), then delete all your contacts, and afterwards restore them again~
Though no idea if it will work :/
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Aye I could try it with a contact whose messages I don't mind losing and seeing if that works, thanks for the tip!

You can also use Google Voice, and have it copy all the messages to your Gmail account.
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So I started backing up and restoring and I was able to open all contacts' threads. The backup never fully restores all messages though and I have to keep hitting "restore" so that it'll restore them all up to the present day. Don't know why it's doing it this way.
Just now I've checked and that one contact won't open again. What I might do is try and restore all to the present, delete loads of messages I don't want, and backup this new message history.

I know this is most likely far too late but I was having the same problems and found this thread while trying to sort it and hope it will help anyone else in future who has the same problems. I tried backing up and restoring (Using both the default and sms back-up and restore) deleting the thread and restoring, eventually I solved it by installing handscent, deleting the messages sent/received back to when the problem started in that thread and a few before, then went in settings, apps, then all, messages cleared the cache, restarted and it is sorted!!

3dd1 said:
I know this is most likely far too late but I was having the same problems and found this thread while trying to sort it and hope it will help anyone else in future who has the same problems. I tried backing up and restoring (Using both the default and sms back-up and restore) deleting the thread and restoring, eventually I solved it by installing handscent, deleting the messages sent/received back to when the problem started in that thread and a few before, then went in settings, apps, then all, messages cleared the cache, restarted and it is sorted!!
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Yeah it never resolved itself but I love the customisation of go sms pro so much that I don't mind anymore. Pity go sms pro crashes every so often and I think it slows the phone down.

I was going to start a new thread but see that this is the same problem I have.
I have a mt4gs (Doubleshot) and the problem described in this thread has happened twice. Both times i was receiving a text message and did something else with the phone at the same moment, and it seems to have jammed up the receipt of that text. The first time, i sent a text to the person at the same moment i received one. The second time, i locked the screen at the moment one arrived. Now that thread never loads, and loading other threads or contacts takes much longer than it should. In fact, i don't think contacts would ever load if i were willing to wait forever.
The first time I backed up the texts, reset the device, and restored, and everything worked fine, but that's a really time-consuming process and it seems like a ridiculous workaround for some broken buffer or queue in Android messaging.
It seems that there must be a direct fix for this. If it's easy enough to break messaging that it has happened to me twice, it must be a fairly common problem. But a search has turned up nothing but people saying there are too many messages or to use an alternative app for messaging. That's (1) incorrect and (2) again an ugly workaround for a problem with core functionality.

[Q] The connection pool for (SMS) has been unable to grant a connection to thread...

Hmm so I downloaded 8sms as I thought it might be a suitable replacement. It looked great, just like the stock messaging app. Made it default. Came back and I just got a blank white screen that says "Loading conversations.". Rebooted and it looked fine. Then opened it a second time and again lost my conversations. Switched back to Hangouts and my messages were still missing after a reboot. Opened 8sms again and my threads were there, went back to Hangouts and my threads were there.
Switch back to 8sms and I get a notification for 8305 new messages. Opened the notification and it's again "Loading conversations".
Something very strange is going on with the 3rd party functionality in KitKat. In logcat I get messages like:
"The connection pool for database '/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db' has been unable to grant a connection to thread (###) (Binder_#) with flags 0x# for 150.003 seconds" where the #s are a bit different with each entry.
Running pure stock rooted here. Any thoughts? I know that there is some sort of database transfer when switching in and out of Hangouts, but this is really disconcerting.
Given this instability, I guess I will be back to Hangouts for now until I can figure out what will work consistently.

Any thoughts on this, anyone?
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Hi,
Could you please check your mms settings are correct?
http://8s.ms/mms-settings
It shouldn't be related, but I've heard from other users of weird phone behaviour when this is not configured correctly.
You might also want to try an uninstall-and-reinstall as well. There are a few reports of phones also behaving strangely which then fix themselves after a second install.
Other than that ...
"The connection pool for database '/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db'
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That sounds like an Android problem.
That's the database which stores the sms and mms messages. You can think of it as a "server" and 8sms (and Hangouts) are just clients to the server.
Hence, the database is managed by Android, not by 8sms (nor Hangouts) which is why I think this is an Android problem .
I know that there is some sort of database transfer when switching in and out of Hangouts, but this is really disconcerting.
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There is no "database transfer". Both apps read from the same database, but only one (the default sms app) is allowed to write to it.
When the default sms app is changed, no data copying takes place, it's just a change of a simple string setting (to remember which is the default sms app and is allowed to write to the databse), and is instantaneous.
Hence again, this is why I think it's an Android problem.
Perhaps you have file system corruption or a problem with your Nexus 5?

Thanks, yes my MMS settings are correct. I would be surprised to see any corruption as I only just got this phone Friday. Anyways I haven't had any problems keeping it set to Hangouts.
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Well, please try the reinstall I suggested above.
Then, another suggestion ... what about you force stop both apps (8sms and Hangouts) before you change the default sms app (via the Android settings)?
Perhaps in your previous switch, Hangouts was still writing data to the messages database?
(Just a random wild guess)

didnt they change how sms/mms worked in 4.4.
I think the app needs to be updated for it to be compatible no? correct me if im wrong, probably i am.

expertzero1 said:
didnt they change how sms/mms worked in 4.4.
I think the app needs to be updated for it to be compatible no? correct me if im wrong, probably i am.
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Yes, but 8sms has already been updated to work in 4.4, and there are lots of instances of it working on other Nexus 5 phones.

bengtan said:
Well, please try the reinstall I suggested above.
Then, another suggestion ... what about you force stop both apps (8sms and Hangouts) before you change the default sms app (via the Android settings)?
Perhaps in your previous switch, Hangouts was still writing data to the messages database?
(Just a random wild guess)
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OK: Tried uninstalling/reinstalling 8sms. Then force closed Hangouts and 8sms each. Then changed default sms app via Android settings.
Then launched 8sms. Everything looked fine. Then opened a conversation and everything was blank. Backed out to the conversation list and got "Loading conversations" again.
I have taken a logcat filtered for anything mentioning sms. Removed identifying phone numbers from it. I have attached it here, starting with the time when 8sms is reinstalled. You can see at 01:47:05.776 the SMS app is switched to Messaging (8sms). At time 01:47:52.886 the first SQLiteConnectionPool error message appears. The messages appear every 30 seconds.
Oh! Interesting. After 10 minutes (01:57:23.016) the last error message is seen. Two seconds later we see an "onQueryComplete finished" message from 8sms. From this point on I was able to open 8sms and see my messages again.
So for a span of 10 minutes, something went on that was locking me completely out of seeing messages, and then it stopped and everything worked. I rebooted to see one more time if it was still working, and yes it does. Perhaps in order to reproduce this error you need to have a big pile of messages already present. Obviously not a lot of Nexus 5 users have this because they just got their phones, but I do because I restored a large archive of messages from my last device.

Hi,
I recognise the query "UPDATE sms SET seen=? WHERE seen=0". It's 8sms marking the messages or threads as seen. Perhaps you had a lot of messages or threads that weren't marked as seen.
Or else, maybe there was a big delay because the database was optimising itself for it's first run or something like that.
In any case, it looks like the problem is fixed now?

Yes it looks like it. However it might be worth looking into whether this problem commonly occurs when switching Kitkat to your client while a large number of messages is present. I believe I had something on the order of 17000 messages in a hundred or so threads. Yes I should probably clean up a bit
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I had a similar issue. Deleted all my messages (kept the backup file though) and uninstalled and reinstalled. It worked fine.
I plan on restoring over the next few days doing it in chunks.

[Q] Generic Question regarding Missing Text Messages

This is a generic question. I'm not looking for specific help tracking down the problem cuz there seem to be way too many variables. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced/noticed it. Or has any info numerous Google searches has not revealed.
So, every once in a while, a text message sent to me seems to not show up on my phone. The only way I know I got it is because Pushbullet syncs it to my PC and Firefox extension. But when I look in my messaging app (Google Messenger) it is not there. And if I do a backup using SMS Backup and Restore Pro it is not included in the backup.
So my phone must be receiving the message if Pushbullet mirrors it. Which makes me assume it is not a cell service issue. But it is not on my phone, messaging app, or SMS backups. Rebooting, switching SMS apps (tried 8SMS and Textra too), clearing app caches, etc. doesn't reveal said missing SMS's.
Background: Nexus 5, PAC-MAN rom 4.4 RC3, Google Messenger as main SMS app, various Xposed modules (but none that affect SMS), T-Mobile service.
It's only been a couple so far. But could have been more when my PC isn't on. And the reason I am concerned is cuz said SMS's are from pretty girls. So obviously I NEED to receive them
If anyone has any advice/info/sarcastic remarks/etc., I would appreciate it. Thxs!

ghagiel said:
This is a generic question. I'm not looking for specific help tracking down the problem cuz there seem to be way too many variables. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced/noticed it. Or has any info numerous Google searches has not revealed.
So, every once in a while, a text message sent to me seems to not show up on my phone. The only way I know I got it is because Pushbullet syncs it to my PC and Firefox extension. But when I look in my messaging app (Google Messenger) it is not there. And if I do a backup using SMS Backup and Restore Pro it is not included in the backup.
So my phone must be receiving the message if Pushbullet mirrors it. Which makes me assume it is not a cell service issue. But it is not on my phone, messaging app, or SMS backups. Rebooting, switching SMS apps (tried 8SMS and Textra too), clearing app caches, etc. doesn't reveal said missing SMS's.
Background: Nexus 5, PAC-MAN rom 4.4 RC3, Google Messenger as main SMS app, various Xposed modules (but none that affect SMS), T-Mobile service.
It's only been a couple so far. But could have been more when my PC isn't on. And the reason I am concerned is cuz said SMS's are from pretty girls. So obviously I NEED to receive them
If anyone has any advice/info/sarcastic remarks/etc., I would appreciate it. Thxs!
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I'd be looking at Pushbullet if I were you. Xposed is always a possibility.
Do the texts show up if you reboot the phone?

ghagiel said:
And the reason I am concerned is cuz said SMS's are from pretty girls. So obviously I NEED to receive them
If anyone has any advice/info/sarcastic remarks/etc., I would appreciate it. Thxs!
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Umm, forward them to me for safekeeping?
Sorry, no helpful insight here. =\

Aerowinder said:
I'd be looking at Pushbullet if I were you. Xposed is always a possibility.
Do the texts show up if you reboot the phone?
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Nope. Tried that the second time I noticed and no luck. Also tried clearing cache/dalvik (just cuz).
Wakamatsu said:
Umm, forward them to me for safekeeping?
Sorry, no helpful insight here. =\
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Haha, nice try

Update: reflashed my ROM, set everything back up from scratch (hate doing that) except for Pushbullet. Bought a Sony Smartwatch 3 and using Coffee to txt from it. Got a txt this morning, and when scrolling thru it on my watch noticed a message that was not on my phone again.
I'm wondering if it's Messenger at this point. Gonna switch messaging apps and see how that goes.

Try switching to hangouts or something, also do you set the setting for default sms handler in settings?

lolcakes203 said:
Try switching to hangouts or something, also do you set the setting for default sms handler in settings?
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I've switched to 8SMS from Messenger. I also went back to stock 4.4.4 and didn't let Google restore any app data. Messenger was the default SMS app. The only time I ever switched it was to restore a SMS backup for whatever reason and switched it right back. I didn't check at the time of missing texts if the default was changed, tho.
I just think they must've been deleted for whatever reason since they didn't show up in a backup. Been on stock with 8SMS for a few days and haven't noticed it so far. Maybe just a weird glitch with Messenger and letting the app data be restored when I reset the first time brought it back? Idk.

Restore SMS in Android 5.1

I have ~5000 sms messages backup file in XML made with SMS Backup and Restore.
On my Nexus 5 I deleted hangouts app and I have default Textra app for sms.
But after importing (approx ~10 min) it says successfully but the messages aren't there, only 6 of them.
The same is with Titanium Backup XML.
This has always worked before. Is Android 5.1 somehow different in sms storing?

I have used SMS Backup & Restore Pro (and the free version before that) to restore my SMS/MMS messages several times across a few phones and, aside from the occasional "1 failed" message, it has worked flawlessly every time.

Telyx said:
I have used SMS Backup & Restore Pro (and the free version before that) to restore my SMS/MMS messages several times across a few phones and, aside from the occasional "1 failed" message, it has worked flawlessly every time.
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Yes, I had no problems before, too. It seems the problem is in Textra. I installed Hangouts app from playstore and inside of it I can see my sms msgs, all of them, but when I enter Textra I see only 6 of them again.
Maybe Textra is not working very well with 5.1 ?

jazzh said:
Yes, I had no problems before, too. It seems the problem is in Textra. I installed Hangouts app from playstore and inside of it I can see my sms msgs, all of them, but when I enter Textra I see only 6 of them again.
Maybe Textra is not working very well with 5.1 ?
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Did you reboot?

Yes, I did.
Anyway, I. Installed Yata and no problem.