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[Q] Some Questions about rooting Desire S

Hi,
I´ve been reading through the forum for the past days, but still a lil bit confused about the procedure. Some threads say no you must do it like this, the other thread says under no circumstances do it like the way in the other thread....
Desire S:
***Locked***
SAGA PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.00.0002
Radio 3822.10.08.04_M
Android 2.3.5
SoftwareNr. 2.10.401.8​
As far as i understand, first i have to use HTCDev to unlock the bootloader. Then downgradehboot to 98
Next get s-off via Revolutionary and Use SuperOneClick to root?
Final follow instructions to install a custom rom klick ?
Forget something? Or is their any easier way?
Sry for my bad english .
Thanks in advance.

I don't know your hboot, for me it was not necessary to downgrade.
But so far you're plan sounds good just backup everything before flashing a new ROM
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If I root my DS, using this guide, i'll be able to install ALL custom ROMs?
I unlocked Bootloader via HTCDev, flashed 4EXTRecovery, flashed SuperUser via recovery.When i tried to flash Virtuous Unity, device stucked at HTC logo.
If I use that guide, will i be able to flash custom ROM?

@3st
You don't need to use HTCdev to downgrade.
By using HTCdev you are possible screwing your warranty.
So to simplify,
Option 1) Use HTCdev to unlock, then install custom recovery, then either root or install a rom using recovery.
Option 2) Downgrade, then use Revolutionary to s-off and install a custom recovery, then as above either root or flash rom with recovery.

scandron said:
If I root my DS, using this guide, i'll be able to install ALL custom ROMs?
I unlocked Bootloader via HTCDev, flashed 4EXTRecovery, flashed SuperUser via recovery.When i tried to flash Virtuous Unity, device stucked at HTC logo.
If I use that guide, will i be able to flash custom ROM?
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when you unlock via htcdev you need to flash the boot.img separately when flashing a custom ROM.
Greetings to amidabuddha
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Okay, i'll try this.
Thx for the answer

There are couple threads in the General section explaing how to downgrade hboot without unlocking at htcdev.com
You should try them first.

eyahl, if i'll want to flash another ROM, i'll have to flash boot.img again?
dmatik, already unlocked, but thanks.I'll watch them

scandron said:
eyahl, if i'll want to flash another ROM, i'll have to flash boot.img again?
dmatik, already unlocked, but thanks.I'll watch them
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Yep
But you need to flash the boot.img of the new ROM, not the old one you already flashed before. (sounds logically, but some ppl. seem to be not able to think logically...)
Please gimme a thumb up if I helped ;-P
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eyahl said:
Yep
But you need to flash the boot.img of the new ROM, not the old one you already flashed before. (sounds logically, but some ppl. seem to be not able to think logically...)
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Thanks for helping me))

Hi there
Did you root successfully?
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[Q] boot.img universal?

Hey guys. Noob question and all but i've only had this phone on a custom rom for an hour.
Is the boot.img image compatible with any ROM? As in does each one need a different boot.img file or could i just keep one copy?
Thanks.
Huzi.

If you're unlocked through htcdev then you'll need to flash boot image each time you flash a new ROM, some roms may well work with others boot image, but I wouldn't recommend it.
Each ROM well need its own boot image, which you'll have to extract from ROM and flash separately
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ben_pyett said:
If you're unlocked through htcdev then you'll need to flash boot image each time you flash a new ROM, some roms may well work with others boot image, but I wouldn't recommend it.
Each ROM well need its own boot image, which you'll have to extract from ROM and flash separately
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So if I use say unrevoked and revolutionary I won't have to keep flashing the boot.img file through adb?
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True, they would give you true s off in which case you don't need to bother with separately flashing boot image, but whether you can use that method depends on which version of hboot your device has
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ben_pyett said:
True, they would give you true s off in which case you don't need to bother with separately flashing boot image, but whether you can use that method depends on which version of hboot your device has
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Well I have hboot version 2.00.0002 which I just found out does not support revolutionary. I need to downgrade to 0.98 first. Thanks for clarifying that.
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MT4G - root or upgrade then htcdev unlock

i downgraded to 2.2.1 from 2.3.4 because htc sense was force closing.
i have tried rooting but to no avail. i do have a bad emic chip.
i now am either going to update back to 2.3.4 and htc dev unlock and get rid of bloatware or i simply try to keep rooting and flash and hope i dont brick my phone.

NEVER EVER EVER unlock with HTC DEV! And try using ./gfree for FroYo, supposing you haven't updated to 2.3.4.

why not use htcdev
i can try gfree but the bad emmc chip apprently bricks your phone or is timebomb

For the EMMc chip: it is not. My brother had a bad chip. He flashed like there was no tomorrow. The only reason why he doesn't have the phone right now is because he traded it for an iPhone...-__-
HTCDev: It makes it harder because then when you flash a ROM, you must manually flash the boot.img to flash the whole ROM. I don't know the details, but that is just what I heard.

invasion2 said:
For the EMMc chip: it is not. My brother had a bad chip. He flashed like there was no tomorrow. The only reason why he doesn't have the phone right now is because he traded it for an iPhone...-__-
HTCDev: It makes it harder because then when you flash a ROM, you must manually flash the boot.img to flash the whole ROM. I don't know the details, but that is just what I heard.
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The adb part is true, the reasoning though is HTC dev unlock only unlocks part of the bootloader, I'm not sure about the specifics but I know it unlocks the recovery partition which allows you to flash cwm
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Nicgraner said:
The adb part is true, the reasoning though is HTC dev unlock only unlocks part of the bootloader, I'm not sure about the specifics but I know it unlocks the recovery partition which allows you to flash cwm
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HTCDev unlocks the boot partition (and possibly recovery partition too) for fastboot flashing ONLY. It doesn't unlock them for anything else. So even though it lets you install recovery, you can't flash kernels (boot.img) from it - you HAVE to do it from fastboot.
For non-frequent-flashers, that are familiar enough with their PC to set up fastboot environment, this solution might be good enough.
I don't like it, because I prefer to have the ability to do things fully from the phone.

Jack_R1 said:
HTCDev unlocks the boot partition (and possibly recovery partition too) for fastboot flashing ONLY. It doesn't unlock them for anything else. So even though it lets you install recovery, you can't flash kernels (boot.img) from it - you HAVE to do it from fastboot.
For non-frequent-flashers, that are familiar enough with their PC to set up fastboot environment, this solution might be good enough.
I don't like it, because I prefer to have the ability to do things fully from the phone.
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Jack R1 is absolutely right...I made the mistake of doing it the HTC way, and I have to flash the boot.img with fastboot. But to add to that, I also have been trying to reverse what the HTC method has done, and alot of the methods are not working properly. So plz listen to them and DO NOT unlock via HTC. Its way to easy doing it xda way, something I learned after the fact...
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[Q] How to Manually S-OFF?

Ok here it goes I will try to explain my situation. Sorry for my lack of information, and other nonsense.
I have unlocked bootloaded using HTC dev my bootloader shows a pink ***UNLOCKED*** at the top. I have loaded cwm recovery using aahk. All my attempts at trying to gain s-off have failed. I dont care about setting CID to 111111 (however many 1's it is) Is there a way to gain S-OFF with out using the aahk. I can't seem to flash any ROMS using cwm because of s-on?
When trying to attempt the downgrade via aahk in linux I am getting invalid image or some error in HBOOT, I just need to figure out how to gain s-off and all my problem I think will be solved. My problem, I have root, s-on, cwm recovery. but when flashing zips in CWM I get stuck on HTC screen. It's like its failing to write to some partitions because of s-on? I can make and restore backups just fine, except that one time when I flashed a boot.img with fastboot. (was getting desperate) so I restored and flashed the boot.img from my nandroid. All is well again.
Running Software:
Android v 2.3.3
HTC Sense 2.1
Baseband 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M
Kernal 2.6.35.10-gd2564fb
Build 2.47.502.7
HBOOT info:
*** UNLOCKED *** (Via HTC DEV )
ACE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-0.85.0024
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.10.04.03_M
Please any help or other information will be very helpful, in the mean time I will search and read up on everything. But all I seem to find is outdated information, and aahk. I would prefer to do everything manually, not matter how hard or how long it takes. I feel better doing everything myself, and I will know what went wrong and where when doing it this way. Please if there is a way to manually S-OFF, HELPS! :angel:
P.S. I have root if that helps, gained root using another tool I think it was htcsupertoolv3, but I have tried another tool as well, HTC_QuickRoot_1.1.13_Release.
Another question, Is it the radio flashing that gains S-OFF? is there a way to radio flash using fastboot with S-ON? I can flash stuff with fastboot. I Imagine I can flash with Hboot as well using a gold card, but for some reason I'm getting invalid image errors in Hboot when using aahk.
I just need some help in general lol. Don't be shy ppl I hit the thanks button alot. Thanks in advance!

You need to flash the insecure boot img and relock the bootloader before trying to run aahk... Do you have good instructions for that process?
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RuggedHunter said:
You need to flash the insecure boot img and relock the bootloader before trying to run aahk... Do you have good instructions for that process?
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Wow, so all I need is the boot.img ( I can flash with fastboot correct?) Then relock bootloader, I don't exactly have good instructions, but I'm sure I can find! Thank you My head was hurting, now to start my search!
p.s. If you already got a link by all means post away!

I pm'd you step by step instructions for unlocking inspire, build 3.02.502.52...assuming that's what you are dealing with... If you're part way through the process already, or have already rooted via another method though, I have know idea if it'll work or what potential consequences there could be....so use it at your own risk.
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RuggedHunter said:
I pm'd you step by step instructions for unlocking inspire, build 3.02.502.52...assuming that's what you are dealing with... If you're part way through the process already, or have already rooted via another method though, I have know idea if it'll work or what potential consequences there could be....so use it at your own risk.
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Worked Like A Champ! Thank You, That boot.img is actually the one I flashed before when I thought I had screwed everything up. I just didnt relock then rerun aahk. I feel so dumb now. Thank goodness you saved my day! Much LOVE AND THANKS!

Glad I could actually help...
Now go flash Viper 1.2.3 in the Desire HD Dev threads and enjoy your *new* phone!
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Totally went with Jellytime R30 xD, Perhaps I'll try Viper
This was my first HTC phone, and I must say after getting through all the confusion in reading old outdated stuff. It's one of my favs!
Again Thanks for the info about flashing the insecure boot.img and relocking bootloader in prep for aahk, Hopefully ppl like me who tend to overlook stuff will see this, and help them too.
Until my next phone adventure! Peace OUT XDA!

I'll just put this link here for anyone else who stumbles across this thread. It's a detailed list of instructions for new att Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30828287
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[Q] Am I good to keep flashing?

Ok here it goes, my Sensation was unlocked, rooted, s-off then I had some network issues so I flashed the stock 3.32 RUU from Bell Canada and took it to a local company to fix. So apparently it had a problem and it needed some software fix. Anyways got it back all is good so my question is am I good to flash again? Bootloader is locked but I have s-off, hboot 1.27.000, I know I need to flash a recovery again but my question really is do I have to root again or am I still? and can just flash recovery then a rom and I'm good to go? Thanks :good:

Yeah you're good with just flashing recovery and then a rom, just don't forget to do a full wipe
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Right on, thanks! Time to get flashing :victory: Hmm don't know, thinking maybe it was a sim issue because after the fix it still didn't work till I got a new one, good thing they didn't charge me, just had to go out and buy a new sim card.

Yeah but I was thinking, wouldn't your fixes be wiped though?
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I'm wondering what a "software fix" even is, the guy couldn't tell me, he wasn't the one working on it. What could screw with cell and network connections? Firmware, radio, ril? Was thinking of not touching those because other than that I can't think what else would mess up connectivity that wouldn't already be fixed by RUU.

Same thing I was wondering, if it was a software fix, shouldn't it have been pushed by the carrier? But yes firmware, radio, ril can affect network connection.. If you decide to go back to flashing and experience bad connection again I suggest you start messing with radios with their corresponding rils to see which works best for you.. Last time I checked they were for sense ROMs and caused problems on cm and aosp, but you might want to read up on the thread or ask questions if you are unsure about something
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Thanks for the help, I think I need to start over anyways now. Tried to flash recovery and fastboot gave me an error: Failed(remote: not allowed). Reading up sounds like hboot issue, solution sounds like s-off and root again.
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You should been able to if you are s-off already, never experienced that error before.. Good luck man
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serio22 said:
You should been able to if you are s-off already, never experienced that error before.. Good luck man
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I recently flashed hboot 1.29, and my new boot loader is locked even with s off. I like it this way, but until I unlock I too get failed error. It's alright
Happy to help.

mistaliu said:
Thanks for the help, I think I need to start over anyways now. Tried to flash recovery and fastboot gave me an error: Failed(remote: not allowed). Reading up sounds like hboot issue, solution sounds like s-off and root again.
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you can't use fastboot commands because now you have locked bootloader
the only thing you have to do is flash 3.33 firmware from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
it will give you also a patched hboot which is unlocked
follow the instructions carefully
and before flashing check md5sums(important)
then you can flash the recovery using fastboot command

rzr86 said:
you can't use fastboot commands because now you have locked bootloader
the only thing you have to do is flash 3.33 firmware from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
it will give you also a patched hboot which is unlocked
follow the instructions carefully
and before flashing check md5sums(important)
then you can flash the recovery using fastboot command
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Ahh didn't think of that. Worked like a charm, everything is good now. Thanks for the help guys!