My tablet uses waaay to much power when its in standby or off. I use my note 10.1 intermittently, so this is frustrating. I cant help but notice that my daughters ipad can last a week on standby with virtually no consumption, but my note will die after a day a nd a half of doing nothing.
Ive already shut off wifi when in standby, anything else?
get rid of bloatware by rooting your device if you are up for it, bloatware is the main problem for battery drain, also use the power saver option in the settings and make sure the brightness is not on to high, my note last around 3 days on standby so there is something definitely draining your battery.
I'm not rooted and can still get about 3 full days if I'm not using it that much. You can just disable some of the bloatware, but rooting will allow you to remove all of it. If you go to -settings-application manager-all- it'll list all the apps on your phone. If you click on an app you can sometimes disable it. I, for instance disabled, "Google Music, as well as some of the samsung media apps" because I don't use them, but they were still using some of my mobile data.
I also use Juice defender ultimate to regulate wifi when the tab is sleeping. You can adjust how often the tablet will turn on the wifi to sync, then keep it off for the remainder of the time the screen it off. I also have it set to turn on wifi as soon as the screen turns on.
If you go to -settings-battery- you can see the percent that each app is consuming over any time period.
Also if you have a lot of widgets that need to constantly update that may also be part of the problem. While individual widgets are fine, when you have a lot it starts to add up.
You can also get "Wakelock" which tells you what apps are waking your tablet, and "watchdog task manager" to tell you if a particular app is out of control. These two apps will only tell you if a particular app(s) are contributing to the problem not fix it.
If the note is off, which I don't normally do, it'll last about 5-6days. There are a lot of other battery saving tips, but most of those are for when the screen is on.
It's funny, I always hear different things when comparing iWhatever to Androidwhatever, as far as battery life. I hear it both ways from people who have used both. I think with Android it's really dependent on what you have installed, where as with the iPad/iPhone it's more consistent.
One of the things I noticed with people switching for Apple to Android is that with Android you really need to install apps to get it work the way you want it to. With Apple it's ready to go out the the box, but you are forced to do it the way they feel is the correct way to do things. With Android you can get a more customized experience but you have to find the app that will do it through research, and trial and error.
Battery drain when off = hardware fault .
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hanexs said:
My tablet uses waaay to much power when its in standby or off. I use my note 10.1 intermittently, so this is frustrating. I cant help but notice that my daughters ipad can last a week on standby with virtually no consumption, but my note will die after a day a nd a half of doing nothing.
Ive already shut off wifi when in standby, anything else?
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Not normal. Are uou running stock . Any strange stuff running in background. check in settings what is using your battery.
That's not normal at all. My tab has been on connected to wifi for over 3 days and is at 72% remaining. Root, install collective v6, then use better battery stats from the play store and monitor your applications. You probably have a few things like news apps auto refreshkng every 15 min or half hour. Make sure that all apps that have a sync option are set to like 6 hour intervals.
Not much Use over the past Couple days, just my game for a bit And some e-mail but this is what you should be at with light use and mainly stand by. I don't use juice Defender, Or any thing that turns off my wifi / GPs / Bluetooth. Power save is off because it disables the IR Remote app. Auto- Bright, and s-Pen is Always On because I have 3 of them SO I Dont always remove my pen.
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get rid of bloatware ... bloatware is the main problem for battery drain
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Bollocks. So-called "Bloatware" almost certainly has NOTHING to do with this. Other than my kernel, I only run Stock ROMs and no apps I don't actively use ever show up on the battery stats.
Rooting, however, will allow you to run "Better Battery Stats", which will allow you to figure out what app is either preventing wakelocks from letting your device go into "Deep Sleep" mode, or waking it up enough that the drain is kiling your battery.
Also, depending on the AP you're running at home, the "beacons" it sends may be waking up the WiFi stack on your Note all the time- I had this problem with a D-Link AP once. (My custom kernels (search for 'em, once you decide to root) have minimized this problem, BTW.)
One other thing to consider if you have a 3G/LTE version is the radio- not only is it always drawing, but in low-signal areas it will positively murder your battery as it spends a lot of power telling the cell stations where it is.
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My tablet uses waaay to much power when its in standby or off. I use my note 10.1 intermittently, so this is frustrating. I cant help but notice that my daughters ipad can last a week on standby with virtually no consumption, but my note will die after a day a nd a half of doing nothing.
Ive already shut off wifi when in standby, anything else?
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Reset, if still does it then take back or send for repair.
Mine is stock no root and full of,"bloatware". It will standby over a week or more, and runs on net probably 10 hours. No differnt rom is going to fix your problem.
Lolol my note sits there for weeks at a time on standby and when i pick it up weeks later, it still has 30-50% left...
Bloatware.. Or aliens.. Are causing your battery drain
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I896, Rooted, factory Gingerbread.
I have a Captivate and a Tab. Both Wifi only, no Sims, Airplane mode on, Bluetooth off. Machines are on but screen is off. The Tab looses 3% over the course of the morning and the Captivate looses 20%!
I'm running regular 'power user' type apps; Titanium Backup, Tasker, LauncherPro. If there are any apps notorious for secret batt consumption, let me know what to avoid.
Running SystemPanel Lite - I can't see any app that is taking up more CPU time than normal that would explain this kind of drain. The battery page shows a good proportion of battery use display and wifi. In one instance I used the Captivate so little that display showed less use than wifi. In the course of just checking phone power consumption, the display use percent way up, just like expected (Just to show that wifi was really doing almost nothing) and still I had lost more than 15% of battery over the time when the phone was supposedly idle, not connected to anything with the screen off. Some ghost is sucking the life out of my battery. Grrrr. What could it be?
I loose 30% in a night with wifi off, backlight set to absolute min and nothing runninng or syncing.
I don't get it. Any ideas? What do I try next?
get use to it, its androids horrible power management
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get use to it, its androids horrible power management
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His tab is running Android too.
If you don't have anything helpful (or knowledgeable) to say don't say anything.
Op, download watchdog from the market, (system panel is kinda ..meh.) and see if there us a rogue app munching battery.
You may consider flashing a ROM see if its just that firmware/kernel reacting to your phone.
Have you tried Juice Defender?
Also, check to make sure you don't have applications constantly running. What version of android are you running? Check in system settings -> status -> somewhere in here you can check the battery status and what applications are pulling the most juice ... From there if one application needs to be removed you can action it ...
Also try the "Battery Calibration" app in the market. It's free.
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His tab is running Android too.
If you don't have anything helpful (or knowledgeable) to say don't say anything.
Op, download watchdog from the market, (system panel is kinda ..meh.) and see if there us a rogue app munching battery.
You may consider flashing a ROM see if its just that firmware/kernel reacting to your phone.
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my captivate running cm7 STOCK will drain down to 20% from being idle for 12 hours
my battery will also drain 30% from 45 mins of wifi only use.
doesnt help him but thats my experience from my captivate
Menu -> Settings -> Wireless and Networking -> Wi-Fi settinngs -> Menu -> Advanced -> Wi-Fi sleep policy
Set it to when screen turns off.
We have to switch that every time we flash. I really wish it was default. Some ROMs also have background data control, but it's usually when wi-fi is on so it shouldn't be a problem.
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my captivate running cm7 STOCK will drain down to 20% from being idle for 12 hours
my battery will also drain 30% from 45 mins of wifi only use.
doesnt help him but thats my experience from my captivate
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You do know that cm7 doesn't have the proper hardware drivers from Samsung so the battery life is known to be HORRIBLE right? If not you should really read up on the ROM you're using
Flash any touchwiz ROM, especially a native I897 build and you will see a dramatic increase in battery life.
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You do know that cm7 doesn't have the proper hardware drivers from Samsung so the battery life is known to be HORRIBLE right? If not you should really read up on the ROM you're using
Flash any touchwiz ROM, especially a native I897 build and you will see a dramatic increase in battery life.
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I'm on CM7 and am going on 27 hours with moderate usage.. Granted, I have the 1800 mah battery from the Sprint Galaxy S2
trying flashing to pinnacle. I too have battled weird captivate drain issues.
if you wanna try CM, read my thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364357
I've held off replying as I was trying a few things and figured I would report only once I was done.
I found and ran Battery Calibration, just before I read the post. Between that and turning Wifi sleep policy to off with screen off, I had a great weekend. I was getting a day and a half out of my phone, which considering the use, was very acceptable. I was getting about the same drain as my Tab. I had 1% battery drain after 4 hrs of screen off time. That seemed fine for me.
I got back to school where I teach and yesterday the phone drained as fast as it has before. Interestingly, it continued its rapid drain even after I left the school and went back home. So, it died at 4am this morning. I heard it shut down. The school has at least 4 routers, two of which have 5k access options. I know if I choose them, my laptop drains way faster. Is there a way to limit my wifi connection on the captivate and not use the faster 5k connection?
But, this still doesn't explain why, even after I leave the school, the Captivate continues to drain when it is 10ft from a single 100mb wifi router.
I'm almost ready to try a custom Rom, but not sure how that will affect my ability to use it as a phone, once I get my Sim activated. Still new to this all.
You think everyone running a custom ROM doesn't use the phone?
Shouldn't affect your ability to do anything...
The WiFi and cell radio do increase power on lower signal as we know, but that's not always the cause of drain. I remember times using Froyo when kswapd goes nuts for no reason, or trillian, email, twitter or some other app just starts using massive CPU. Many apps are probably never tested on a system that has no connection most of the time. That's where all the utilities come in handy to find the culpret. OSMonitor can help find CPU hogs. TiBu can freeze apps, or uninstall them temporarily. Juice Plotter can monitor drain over time (newer Androids have something like it built-in). It takes some time to find it, but newer versions of the OS make it easier and have less trouble.
Also the battery % is only estimated. I'd trust full to empty time rather than 90% to 80% time as 10% use since it's not really as linear as we think.
Not to point out the obvious, but it can be the battery itself that has the problem. They aren't exactly manufactured to NASA standards... well, maybe their standards lately, but the point is, sometimes the ghost you're chasing is staring you right in the face.
I finally decided I would take some extreme measures to aide the BL of my Androids. I have an HTC Inspire and HTC HD2 with Nexus S Android. The HD2 isn't all that bad...much better BL than the Inspire, but I wanted to apply this measure to both phones. Will it help? Only time will tell.
I started by removing all screen widgets. Then I sorted the screen icons so that a minimum of homescreens were needed...got it down to 2 homescreens. Then I deleted all widgets without apps not able to be opened through an icon. Then I went into Applications manager and cleared and stopped all non-used apps and services. I also deleted all duplicate services such as OEM email accounts and their associated syncing....using add-in apps for them. (example: built-in apps and widgets like Facebook, Twitter are uninstalled or disabled and am using another combining app like Seesmic. Same goes for the email app)
What I currently have is an Android iPhone. I'm using only icons on the 2 homescreens. And this makes me understand why Apple refuses to use widgets and stick with icons...to preserve BL. I hope this will improve the BL of my Androids because it is purely horrendous. And it is horrendous with all Androids I've tried and used.
Until the recently announced battery tech breakthrough is made available, this might have to be how Android is used from now on. But I doubt these extreme measures will actually help.
What is the difference between a widget and an application?
An application is a single, whole program package that is loaded into the phone. Examples would be Tapatalk, the default Calculator, and Angry Birds.
An application can have one or more widgets in it -- a widget is an interactive thing you can place on the home screen. It can give you information, and you can tap on it to change what it says. A good example of that would be Beautiful Widgets, or the little Android guy that tells you about how to use your new phone.
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@Marty, how long was your battery lasting prior to the "Extreme Makeover"? Mine currently will last me 2 days. Admittedly, I've not loaded a lot of stuff on the phone yet, and I have the power saver mode start at 70%...but I only need to recharge every other day.
My desire lasts around 2 days with moderate usage. But on a good day (read: many boring moments), it's completely depleted by the end of the day. My biggest battery drainer is whatsapp, if I uninstall the app my battery will last a LOT longer.
If i really need my phone to last for a long time (when Im on a big trip or on a festival) I always use JuiceDefender with a very strict setting. This is a big help, but not for everyday use
whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
Ive dont the same thing, I also found some build prop and init.d tweaks that improve battery life.
my brightness is always at minimum, i have only one widget,
My battery could last two days BUT i use my phone a lot. like its on for 7 hours with 4.5 hrs screen on.
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whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
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Hilarious.
ther have been many apps and disucssions on BL. heres some common tips.
screen to lowest brightness possible setting. background data always off unless using market. disable -use wireless networks- options, no gps, no location. also turn off *back up my data*. wifi always off not in use. screeen timeout no more than 2 minutes. turn off animations and transitions. setcpu with moderate settings (if you can do a screen off profile it will be beneficial but beware Sleep of Death.) no live wallpapers. minimum widgets or none. minimum homescreens or 1. startup manger. adfree. location cache app. and battery calibration to get the most juice.
the issues seems to be alot with hardware the Htc inspire and HD2 have 1250 Mah Batteries , which are very small.
If some people are just like me... I can kill at 1800mah battery in 5 hours even at full charge...
I do everything on my smartphone. So anything to save the battery is a good way.
I have the Galaxsy S II and I've managed to drain the battery in 6hours of usage and since I'm not near a power source most of the time then yeah I need all the juice....
I don't sit in an office or am near a power source 80% of the time. I usually carry 2 spare batteries with me and a charger for them just in case.
Cheers! (Extreme power user).
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whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
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grudas said:
whats the point? Where ever you sleep you have access to a plug/usb w/e so whats the big deal ? how hard is it to charge the phone every night? even thought my galaxy s2 hold battery for 40hrs+ i never need that :|
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Whats the point??
Here is my daily usage :
Alarm goes off at 6:30am (phone gets unplugged)
Blahblah (at work) reply to emails and messages throughout the day, on twitter A LOT (plume premium)
2 calls approx 30 mins each
Play some games at break and lunchtime (Drag racing KILLS my battery, a bit of plants vs zombies, grave defence HD and maybe some pinball deluxe)
more emails and twitter
another 20min call
a little more gaming while im waiting on customers (1hr or so??)
6pm go home for 6:30pm
BAM! battery is at 10-20% and i need to plug it in again.
this is a typical 12hr day for me and im sure others have longer days and i would appreciate not having to rush home (sometimes) if im expecting a call.
so as far as im concerned anything which will save some precious battery on my devices is appreciated.
btw i have reduced my homescreens to 3 and only have 2 widgets running and that has made a great difference to my battery life (esp. on the DHD)
Irvysan
Basically kill factory and carrier bloatware and you are getting better.
One thing I was amazed about was the eBook reader that comes with our Galaxy Tabs, and suppose others too.. it always working even if you dont have or use it.
And remember, the screen is what takes most out of your BL, always. Lower brightness? Get a better ROM with no bloatware and maybe undervolt the screen.
Homescreens dont change a bit. Widgets do, if they update a lot.. more than that notification stuff do. Like if you use a antivirus or antisomething, just check of notifications.. check of any unneeded notifications.
Vibration theorically is what consumes the most.. but since its not as used as the screen, you dont even compare them. But every little bit helps. Check off keyboard clicks and hepatic feedback - vibrations.
Wifi, bluetooth, data... don't actually consume much.. actually it's better if you leave a service stable on, than keep sleeping and switching it. So leave wifi always on, no sleep policy. But when you go out turn it of so it doesnt keep scanning all the time (unless you want to ).
Just like any PC, the more you install.... Just check what you got going on, learn how to check processes and services that keep on all the time, and there are some utils to help stop some crap from starting up. I use ROM Toolbox and Autostarts.. some stuff get activated just because you plug you device to charge!
DONT use task killers... dont let anything like that keep running... and no, GMail push notifications wont use any batt. Maybe pop/imap emails always pollling will use some.. but probably nothing compared to the examples above.
Cheers for my 2 cents.
EDIT: and after Xmas, remove those animated wallpapers!
Is Juice Defender a task killer? Not really sure what is it but I've been wondering about that.
Juice Defender Ultimate has been giving me about a 1/3 more time with screen on max. Why is my screen on max, because I was trying to drain the phone. It's on about 40% now which is still pretty bright. I wouldn't be mad to get more life but I think 20+ hrs with moderate use isn't bad. I think the most I did was search the net about 4 hours total. But I was also, customizing, so it the screen was lit for a while.
This is a TMO GSII I'm talking about.
There are a ton of things you can do, but the truth of it all is that our 3G/4G radios pull so hard they drain the battery, which is why you were on the right track when you disable active since, Facebook and Twitter.
The main two things I do, is
1. add a widget for turning off 3G or 4G (If its in your area).
2. Installed Startup Manager ( it disables startup programs in the unseen background, (my phone is rooted)).
by doing these two things I am able to get 17hrs+ on a standard HTC EVO 4G battery. Keep in mind the more you use the Internet the more it will drain your battery. So I only turn the internet connection on when I need it or the app needs it.
*I also only use one screen and remove unnecessary widgets but I find that doesn't help the battery life all that much, (my personal Preference)
*When I or my sons game on my phone I put it on Airplane more which turns off all Radios including the Phone (call/text)
*Drawback to turning 3G off, you have to wait a few second for the internet to come back on and MMS won't download through your messenger unless have it one.
I've been off the charge for 8hrs and my battery life is still at 65%
Sorry to be long winded but if I know anything its battery life
Completely agree. What's the point. Either you don't use your phone for ANYTHING, and watch the battery last for 2 weeks (literally), or you use it so heavily that it lasts only 2 hours....
I was sick recently, and as such couldn't use my phone (I couldn't open my eyes without getting dizzy, and even closed.... still was). Suddenly my HTC Inspire 4G used only 20% of the battery in 10 hours. The previous day, heavy mail, "friendstream" (HTC's facebook/twitter/etc app/widget), listening to music (well, audiobooks) for about 8 hours, and I had only 20% left. And i've found that overclocking the phone to 1.3GHz helps more than any other tweak.
Don't get me wrong, I'm obsessive about using my phone *and* getting awesome battery life out of it. But the ONLY way to true "maximize" your battery life is to *minimize* your usage. But then you might as well buy a feature phone.
And I know a few people with iPhones. a 3GS and a 4 and a 4S. They don't get any better battery life than I do. Heck, they get worse. Even under the same type of usage.
For me, the problem isn't the usage, isn't what's running, or what's loaded (but it does help/hurt). The problem is that battery technology has NOT kept up with consumer needs, or IT development. Your battery is dying as soon as it leaves the factory. Your battery is dying every time you change it. Especially when it gets hot. your battery dies faster when it's cold outside. We need better energy storage medium. Period.
Buy the biggest battery I can find on eBay....
Use the fsck out of my phone all day and have plenty of battery left.
Problem solved.
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We need better energy storage medium. Period.
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I don't think the use of WiFi could be overstated.
On my Skyrocket, leaving Wifi on (indoors), it'll sip about 1% every hour. I go out and have 4G LTE on, it drinks up about 3% every hour.
Minimizing widgets also helps. I saw noticeably better battery after removing my facebook and Latitude widgets.
The screen also sucks up the most battery. Turn it off on every occasion. Just turning it off instead of letting it shut off by itself has made a difference for me.
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For me, the problem isn't the usage, isn't what's running, or what's loaded (but it does help/hurt). The problem is that battery technology has NOT kept up with consumer needs, or IT development.
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Battery technology has kept up with usage. However, battery size in relation to the power draw, has not.
Compare the size of the back cover on your phone, with the size of the battery. Why is the battery this tiny little 2" square, when the phone is 5" tall and 2.5" wide? Why aren't batteries the same height/width as the phone? Why isn't the battery the same size as the back cover? Why aren't phone manufacturers optimising the size of the battery (meaning, making it as big as possible)?
It would be so nice if phone manufacturers would stop with this stupid "race to the thinnest" crap, and started:
- releasing phones that are actually comfortable to hold like a phone
- releasing phones with batteries larger than a pack of matches
your battery dies faster when it's cold outside.
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Actually, keeping a battery cool makes it last longer, not drain faster.
Hello, two days ago I closed the lid of the cover and put my Note Pro LTE in a bag. I just took out the device and found that there are about 81% left. Is this normal?
Depends on what you're running in the background.
Mine looses about 1% every 24h when in deep sleep. I've got everything turned off, including sync, gps, wifi, mobile data (I'm not using a SIM yet), most of the bloatware including touchwiz.
So, even I closed the cover, apps were still running and the power hunger ones continued to consume power?
Just check the battery stats...
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Power hungry, no; but background processes still run like email checking and other sync services.
Considering you probably have sync set up for an email account and Google play services is likely running as well getting about 0.5% drain per hour seems reasonable to me.
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So, even I closed the cover, apps were still running and the power hunger ones continued to consume power?
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Turning the screen off doesn't disable Sync. With Sync enabled, it keeps actively checking for new emails and the lot. Think of it like going to sleep, and waking up every 5 minutes to check your mailbox.
It temporarily pauses games and videos, but it doesn't quit the app. You have to do that through the recent apps menu.
Is there an app that also put those sleepless apps such as sync to sleep when the lid is closed?
When it comes to battery life the first thing to do is get a handle on what your current drain is.
Monitor your battery stats page, look at the times that the device wakes up and at the rankings of applications to see what's using the most power. Third party applications can help here like Better Battery Stats or GSam Battery Monitor.
From a fresh clean boot with a full battery let the tablet sleep unplugged while on WiFi without ever opening any applications or turning on the display. Let it sit like this for at least a few hours and determine your average hourly % drain. Use this as your baseline and see what applications rank near the top. Repeat this with WiFi turned off and the tablet on LTE. Compare the two and if you see higher drain on LTE take a look at your signal strength. Most likely if LTE signal is weak then drain will increase as the radio tries to compensate.
If you see more than a percentage point of drain in deep sleep while on WiFi then chances are an application is keeping the tablet awake or waking it frequently. Those applications will likely rise to the top in the default battery stats page. If not, the third party applications can assist you in figuring out what's wake-locking the device.
Thanks, I will try the test under wifi. I haven't used LTE yet. I bought the LTE version because it has faster processors and quick charging.
Do the tips mentioned in the article also apply to our Note PRO? Do Airport Mode turns off those apps we talk about?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-...one-or-tablet-quickly-and-efficiently_id56242
Since 4.3 Samsung OS has a process called Index (from indexing files) draining a lot of battery juice from its first start till completed process (just for 2 days i think).
I had noticed this since Note 2 update to 4.3, and now with 12.2.
But I can be wrong......or not.
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Do the tips mentioned in the article also apply to our Note PRO? Do Airport Mode turns off those apps we talk about?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-...one-or-tablet-quickly-and-efficiently_id56242
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Seems fairly logical when you think about it . . if you're trying to fill a bath tub it will fill much faster if you close the drain at the bottom . .
Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
Battery life is relatively unchanged in mine after the mm update. Easily make it through the entire day with 50-60% battery life remaining. I disabled a whole bunch of the bloatware (and will be removing it entirely when I decide to root my phone) and battery life is wonderful.
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Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
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Mine has been fine, slightly better with doze/disabling packages. Do a back up through Smart Switch and try a factory reset. I do that every time I update.
I'm envious of your successes. I'll give it a bit to see if it stabilizes, if not I'll use SS and reset/restore.
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I'm envious of your successes. I'll give it a bit to see if it stabilizes, if not I'll use SS and reset/restore.
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I will recommend "Package Disabler Pro" to disable bloatware. Costs but is worth the cash.
Mine went through on Thursday and so far battery appears ok.
I have noticed however the lighting is messed up all over. Play books night light feature is broken and dims it to unrecognizable levels. I have to go into the settings again when in the book and disable auto lighting and manually raise it. When back at the list of books screen, the brightness drops to nearly off again.
Also it seems the notifications when listening to music are much louder. I could listen to mp3s via poweramp while reading a book and get an SMS text and itd be a light little sound. this is playing louder than my music and very annoying.
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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1: Apps/sync will use mobile data as priority if this is done while waiting to connect to wifi. In turn, using even more battery if an app/sync wakes the phone switching between networks.
2: This is damaging to Li batteries. To extend the life of your battery, it is better to keep it topped above 80% and cool(not very common in real world applications). These aren't Ni batteries, long gone are the days of "memory discharging".
If you don't need notifications at night, use airplane mode. I miss Xposed, Autotasker, and Amplify(formerly Bounce)... Greenify is a good alt atm
Note: Sometimes even Play service updates will introduce bugs and or "retarded" policies that will destroy the battery, especially the "Now" systems. It can happen at the most random times as well and not at all most. Every now and then the fat man will get stuck in the tube.
All thoughtful replies. I don't have Location on ever, unless I'm using Waze, so that's a non-issue for me. Allowing WiFi to sleep when the phone is off, while I'm only connecting via WiFi, effectively makes my smartphone a dumb phone, until I wake it up, right? The fact that I need to start changing around "normal" settings on my phone, to lesser benefiting ones, to get back to the battery life I had before I installed MM is pretty silly. I've been hoping things would settle down, but they don't. I can try using SmartSwitch later to see if that helps.
Steamer86 said:
1: Apps/sync will use mobile data as priority if this is done while waiting to connect to wifi. In turn, using even more battery if an app/sync wakes the phone switching between networks.
2: This is damaging to Li batteries. To extend the life of your battery, it is better to keep it topped above 80% and cool(not very common in real world applications). These aren't Ni batteries, long gone are the days of "memory discharging".
If you don't need notifications at night, use airplane mode. I miss Xposed, Autotasker, and Amplify(formerly Bounce)... Greenify is a good alt atm
Note: Sometimes even Play service updates will introduce bugs and or "retarded" policies that will destroy the battery, especially the "Now" systems. It can happen at the most random times as well and not at all most. Every now and then the fat man will get stuck in the tube.
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No, it will connect LTE and then switch to wifi. LTE use more battery life, the network switch uses a bit, then finally you are into wifi. If your phone wakelocks or alarms(location ping, play service ping, etc) it will use more battery than wifi always on. Personally, I've tested both to make sure a wifi wakelock bug hasn't been introduced as I do with every update and play service update(it does happen and it's horrible drain). I see more savings always on.
If you meant you disable mobile network, yes, dumb phone, text and call. Also, I disable mobile usually always as I piggyback off work cell at work, and always wifi at home. I only toggle mobile data when necessary.
jasong127 said:
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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I believe this is what most people encounter. Most dont have unlimited data and use WIFI always. I think by default, WIFI is set to always on, even when phone screen is off. WIFI will rape your battery. I did my own tests with wifi vs 4g and just by using my 4g all the time, battery quadrupled. Many argued that WIFI uses less battery, and i have the best of the best wifi router/modem/isp with 5ghz ac excellent coverage. Not the case for me. I have unlimited and just stick with that now. Battery life on MM has been great for me.
My battery life is 4x better. I couldn't be happier.
shaels said:
Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
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Been on MM for about five days now and my battery blows, so much worse than what it was!
musicfreak190 said:
My battery life is 4x better. I couldn't be happier.
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Mine is exactly 4 times worse
Battery the same.
But I have to tap the screen harder to chose app.
Going to factory reset and start clean, been a while.
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Has Verizon released any new updates to patch the issues with Marsh Mellow update
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Has Verizon released any new updates to patch the issues with Marsh Mellow update
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Not that I know of.
Though they JUST released Marshmallow. Verizon is probably still patting themselves on the back even though they released several months late. What I'm waiting for is a miraculous root.
I never use my phone the same amount every day, so it's hard to say exactly what kind of battery life I get, but I have noticed that it has improved. I would usually be near 15% by 10pm after coming off charger at 6am. Now I float around 25% at 10pm. So it seems to be better, even if only slightly so.
I see a minimal improvement, but I was doing what I could without root prior to sleep unnecessary crap.
Weird, when thye MM updated happened, up until the last two days, I was getting much better battery life under MM. But the past few days my battery life has declined dramatically to the point that I am not getting through a day of minimal use. Screen only 2%, Android OS consuming 76%.
I just fiddled with settings (Changed Wifi sleep to While Charging; Turned off wifi scanning). I am going to also try a reboot to see if that helps. I swear it started just about the time I started looking at Nexus 6p replacements).
Update, rebooting, and removing a few more useless apps and battery life has returned.
Hi,
I have a Note 20 Ultra that doesn't see a whole lot of use. I have a few apps on it, mostly stuff for my smart lights and a few other things. I don't run push on anything and the apps that I have on the Note 20 are the same that I had on my old Note 8.
Lately my phone has spent a lot of time sitting because my job gave me a phone that I use pretty much exclusively during the week. I've noticed that in spite of the lack of apps on the phone and the lack of use, I lose somewhere between 15 and 20 percent of the battery per day, with nothing done to it.
I'm at a loss as to what's causing it. I check the battery app in settings and it shows me nothing useful. I have put unused apps to sleep turned on and have added a few apps to the sleeping apps section. I was wondering if there is any non-rooted way to figure out what is causing the battery drain and to fix it.
Before I had this phone, I had a Note 8. That phone was my absolute favorite phone. I loved that phone. It had a great camera, good screen, and in spite of having quite a few more apps on it, it did much better on battery than this Note 20 does. Between the battery suck and the lack of any useful macro on the camera, this ranks near the absolute bottom of the list of my favorite phones. I'm ready to have Verizon turn on my Note 8 and sell this thing on craigslist. I wish that I'd never gotten this thing but as long as I have it, I'd at least try to do something about the battery drain when just sitting on a table doing nothing other than sitting on a table.
When I had some unexplained battery consumption I used Safe Mode which helped.
Put the phone in Safe Mode which disables your downloaded app's but let's your stock app's keep working. If the issues stop then this highlights a downloaded app as the possible issue. Come out of Safe Mode and start deleting your most recent downloaded app's one at a time until it stops. https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/how-to-start-my-galaxy-device-in-safe-mode/
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When I had some unexplained battery consumption I used Safe Mode which helped.
Put the phone in Safe Mode which disables your downloaded app's but let's your stock app's keep working. If the issues stop then this highlights a downloaded app as the possible issue. Come out of Safe Mode and start deleting your most recent downloaded app's one at a time until it stops. https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/how-to-start-my-galaxy-device-in-safe-mode/
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Thanks. I've never understood why they don't make it easier to identify what apps are causing problems. That battery app is pretty useless. You wouldn't know by looking at it that I was having any problems at all.
The last few years I have a battery drain between 0.7% and 0.8% per hour, when phone "sleeps" next to me during the night. I use free Gsam battery monitor to check. So your daily "use" while sleeping seems normal. 24 times 0.8 equals that. With ca 20%/day
I use Samsung Notes for years and years and it always comes to that average. Wifi, Bluteooth, Radio, and all other possible options left ON.
Switching them all off or airplane mode, makes no difference at all.
usmaak said:
Hi,
I have a Note 20 Ultra that doesn't see a whole lot of use. I have a few apps on it, mostly stuff for my smart lights and a few other things. I don't run push on anything and the apps that I have on the Note 20 are the same that I had on my old Note 8.
Lately my phone has spent a lot of time sitting because my job gave me a phone that I use pretty much exclusively during the week. I've noticed that in spite of the lack of apps on the phone and the lack of use, I lose somewhere between 15 and 20 percent of the battery per day, with nothing done to it.
I'm at a loss as to what's causing it. I check the battery app in settings and it shows me nothing useful. I have put unused apps to sleep turned on and have added a few apps to the sleeping apps section. I was wondering if there is any non-rooted way to figure out what is causing the battery drain and to fix it.
Before I had this phone, I had a Note 8. That phone was my absolute favorite phone. I loved that phone. It had a great camera, good screen, and in spite of having quite a few more apps on it, it did much better on battery than this Note 20 does. Between the battery suck and the lack of any useful macro on the camera, this ranks near the absolute bottom of the list of my favorite phones. I'm ready to have Verizon turn on my Note 8 and sell this thing on craigslist. I wish that I'd never gotten this thing but as long as I have it, I'd at least try to do something about the battery drain when just sitting on a table doing nothing other than sitting on a table.
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I use GSAM Battery Monitor Pro, there's a free version to. With just a couple adb commands you can enable app sucker which will tell what all your installed apps are doing to your battery.
GSam Battery Monitor Pro - Apps on Google Play
GSam Battery Monitor provides deep insights into what is using your battery.
play.google.com